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Favoriting January 4, 2021: The past and future of the office with Sheila Liming, author of "Office"

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Tonight: Sheila Liming, author, "Office"

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Office, by Sheila Liming

• Twitter: @seeshespeak

• Web: sheilaliming.com and Champlain College

Post by Aral Balkan, replying to Google's Alex Hanna: "Congratulations on the union. How you reconcile your position as 'Ethical #AI' at a company whose business model is to profile us and use that intimate insight to manipulate us for profit? How's your presence any different to that of a doctor in a cigarette ad for Big Tobacco?"

Thread by recent guest Cory Doctorow: "There are lots of problems with ad-tech:
* being spied on all the time means that the people of the 21st century are less able to be their authentic selves;
* any data that is collected and retained will eventually breach, creating untold harms;
* data-collection enables for discriminatory business practices ("digital redlining");
* the huge, tangled hairball of adtech companies siphons lots (maybe even most) of the money that should go creators and media orgs; and
* anti-adblock demands browsers and devices that thwart their owners' wishes, a capability that can be exploited for even more nefarious purposes;
That's all terrible, but it's also IRONIC, since it appears that, in addition to everything else, ad-tech is a fraud, a bezzle. . . .

How Much of the Internet Is Fake? Turns Out, a Lot of It, Actually (by Max Read in New York magazine, Dec 26, 2018): "The metrics are fake."

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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtaphone Operators!
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Rand al'Thor:

Hello, everyone!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark and all the Techyon Drives! Happy New Year and day and evening and show!

Where have I been? It feels like it's been a long time? I dunno.

Glad to be here. As an office person, I am very interested in how capital tried to retrench and use pandemic habits to further precariatize and anomize workers and take away the already ragged solidarity among them.

Hey, ultradamno!
  6:01pm
P-90:

Happy New Year!
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Constance De Witt:

Hi Mark! Happy New Year, looking forward your show, as usual.
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listener james from westwood:

Good 2021, Mark and all!
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ultradamno:

Hiya Handy!
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Webhamster Henry:

Hi Mark! As a longtime remote worker, I'm ready to be contentious.
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TDK60:

Hello Mark. It's the Future, they say.
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Webhamster Henry:

Hey! 1976 used to be far in the future.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

Hey Mark and Gin and Techtonics!
  6:04pm
space_cadet:

long time listener, new time chatter - checking in! looking forward to the show.
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Handy Haversack:

Greetings, space_cadet!
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DjLorraine:

Present
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Constance De Witt:

I have to say, I was relieved that Slack was down today for a few hours...
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tim from champaign (now washington):

Luddite question....what is Slack?
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Webhamster Henry:

The Church of the Sub-Genius could have helped with that slack problem.
  6:06pm
space_cadet:

It's a chat service marketed towards buisness - it's supposed to eliminate emails
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TDK60:

I think it's when you spend too much time around the water cooler, Tim.
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PaulRobeson1920:

I remember my parents unplugged the computer when 1999 turned to 2000. They taped a piece of paper on the monitor that read “do not plug in!” lol
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ultradamno:

@Tim I think it's a fancy trouser app
  6:08pm
P-90:

“free from the shackles of Slack...”
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tim from champaign (now washington):

I could use that app, ultra!
  6:09pm
P-90:

The Subgenius clergy should have sued them for using that name...
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Constance De Witt:

People constantly messaging on Slack, and few people use the "thread" or "pin" functions. A pet peeve of mine... so much information gets lost, even if it is 'archived'.
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Webhamster Henry:

Python is named after Monty Python, and of course SPAM comes from them as well.
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Handy Haversack:

tim, as Mark's saying, but it's a project-management system, basically, but styled like a social media feed (though with the added Damocles sword of your job depending on it) and using, as best I can tell, the same habit-forming and -rewarding feedback systems that things like Facebook use, and for much the same purpose -- to get businesses and their employees to route as much data through it as possible for its own purposes.

I don't have to use it and recently tried very hard to defeat an effort to get us to try it. In abeyance, at least for now.
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Webhamster Henry:

Before Slack, we used AOL's messaging.
  6:11pm
space_cadet:

@Constance De Witt - agreed, a lot of information gets lost in the weeds via the "slackening" of project coordination
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Handy Haversack:

Jeez, I miss my colleagues! And my commute! And putting wear and tear on a space other than my tiny apartment, where there's room for decent tech and where the risk to that tech is borne by my employer and not me personally.
  6:12pm
wenzo llc.:

"Sorry To Bother You"!! great... slightly disturbing
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Webhamster Henry:

I've also run my own server with the desiccated open sourced husk of Google Wave for nefarious robot assisted messaging.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

After Hours isn't about working in the office but I do enjoy the beginning and end of that movie which shows the bleak doldrums of the office.
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Handy Haversack:

I guess The Pale King, though it's unfinished and unrealized.
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Webhamster Henry:

I was going to mention After Hours too!
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DocBlueDog:

No, it’s not okay because if they make me, if they, if they take my stapler then I’ll have to, I’ll set the building on fire…
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Webhamster Henry:

I had offices that I never went to. Even with an Aeron Chair.
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Constance De Witt:

Sadly, I prefer Slack + working remotely than office + sitting in front of HR.
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listener james from westwood:

For me, Office Space nailed it. The UK Office made me angry and depressed when I was shown it.
  6:15pm
David in London:

Hello Technoid groovers! Happy new year Mark.
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Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining!
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Mark Hurst:

@Handy welcome back! nice to see you on the chat again.
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ultradamno:

I don't know Office Space that well, but I think I've seen a movie called Office Lust. Probably not much in common.
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PaulRobeson1920:

But but but my stapler
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Handy Haversack:

Yeah, the deal was the office bore the risk and expense. It's nefarious to shift that back to the worker. I live in a glorified hallway with great towers of books blocking the light and threatening to topple and crush us -- there's no room for a nice double monitor and a standing desk!

Thanks, Mark! I realized I was in Jersey City during the show last week last year -- which feels like forever ago already!
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PaulRobeson1920:

They moved my desk 4 times this year and i said i’ll quit and i told so and so that my stapler...
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listener james from westwood:

My last full-time office job ended in 2008 when I was caught by the fourth wave of layoffs in my 18 months there. The office looked like a neutron bomb test by that point. Half empty and sad. The HR Dept had only one setting: Treat employees like toddlers and facilitate the horseshit decisions of the VC firm that owned the company.

Went freelance the night I got laid off. 12 years later and I've only been in an office if the client wanted me to proofread on paper there b/c secrecy or whatnot.
  6:17pm
P-90:

Good ol’ Bro Dom
  6:17pm
Dean:

Liming has also written a work of literary criticism/history, What a Library Means to a Woman: Edith Wharton and the Will to Collect Books. This is consonant with her appreciation of the Xerox monk in the new scriptorium.
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listener james from westwood:

I do miss riding the train to NYC, though, for my second FT office job. Nothing like that skyline and the pulse running thru those streets.
  6:17pm
P-90:

Classic ad
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WR:

About 1.5 years before the pandemic my company moved to new office and we had a year of wework post old office before new office was ready. WEWORK WIFI sucked so I started working from home. Then I was surprised that at the new office I no longer had an assigned desk. As a result I have worked from home since July 2018. The only thing I miss about the office is their printer copier scanner and those times when I could corner a superior to shortcut problem solving. And the old office had better and more network connections that I could have at home. Unfortunately that changed in the new office. Main thing I've had to learn is taking care of tedious paperwork. If office has resources I am good with it.
  6:18pm
Feff Cacho:

My lineage is far from noble.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Thank gooodness for those monks preserving a glimpse of the ancient worlds written material. We have less then 1% of 1% of all the written material from the ancient world! For example Epictetus and his cohorts.
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Handy Haversack:

(Mark, the office printers are also MUCH more convenient for printing out modules on 17 X 11 paper, bookleted and double-sided ...)
  6:20pm
TimBk:

I'll take a cubicle over an open floor plan anyday. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jiawertz/2019/06/30/open-plan-work-spaces-lower-productivity-employee-morale/?sh=4043acef61cd
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ultradamno:

Kafka is king of office lit en.wikipedia.org...
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PaulRobeson1920:

Kafka worked at an insurance office or somthing right?
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Mark Hurst:

It's true, a good shared copier is hard to replicate (so to speak) in a home environment
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ultradamno:

Jinx!
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Handy Haversack:

ultradamno, it's true -- and Wallace was a huge appreciator.
  6:22pm
David in London:

You know...for kids!
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Mark Hurst:

@ultra thanks, had never heard of Kafka's office writings
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Handy Haversack:

Glengarry Glen Ross, of course ...
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WR:

There are far far more office parks than urban tall buildings with white collar workers. Also call centers (those still in the USA) are in office park campuses in semi-rural locations.
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Handy Haversack:

And DFW's story "The Suffering Channel" is a directly 9/11-related workplace tale, and it's devastating.
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Webhamster Henry:

And How To Succeed InBusiness Without Really Trying!
  6:25pm
P-90:

Kafka is THE office guy.
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Webhamster Henry:

BRAZIL's fantastic office scenes are oddly accurate.
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Bas NL:

Happy 2021 Mark, all!
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Mark Hurst:

@Bas welcome! Happy new year.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

Hudsucker Proxy is a god one!
  6:26pm
P-90:

Don Marguis is the go-to for the lowdown on the home office (after hours.)
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tim from champaign (now washington):

@Webmaster Henry - I was just thinking about Brazil too.
  6:27pm
Feff Cacho:

All I needed to know about offices I learned from Bartleby, the Scrivener.
  6:27pm
Dean:

Melville's "Bartleby, the Scrivener"
Dickens' "A Christmas Carol"
Not entirely tangential, "Desk Set"
  6:27pm
phlipsmith:

Being John Malkovich for office surrealism, the weird half floor.
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Webhamster Henry:

I actually disassembled my cubicle (aka veal pen) once, but a later version of it was supporting my desk (when I had a desk).
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Webhamster Henry:

Malkovich Malkovich Malkovich!
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Handy Haversack:

The "open" office were such an obvious panopticon con (panoptiCON?). Knowing you are always observed, you do as your masters demand unconsciously.
  6:29pm
P-90:

Billy Wilder’s The Apartment a fascinating document of mid-century American corporate office politics and social studies.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

@Dean - I'd say Desk Set fits into the overall theme of Techtonic. Maybe not as much champagne on Techtonic though.
  6:29pm
Dean:

Agreed, @tim.
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ultradamno:

Somewhat off topic, I was reminded of this show while watching Netflix's 2020 special in which Kumail Nanjiani plays an Elon Musk like evil tech billionaire who watches Greta Thunberg speak and is so moved he builds a survival bunker in a mountain "don't people call you selfish" "I don't know, the walls are soundproof"
  6:29pm
ignatatus666:

Chiming in
Swimming with Sharks
Horrible Bosses
Office Space
And I think if I have the name right
The langoleers?
I worked inTaxi dispatch offices for many years and that my fellow listeners is not for the typical office workers. Not for the faint of heart

Happy new Point of reference to all
  6:31pm
P-90:

No one mentioned Mad Men yet?
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ultradamno:

The Apartment is on the very shortlist of Wilder masterpieces, for sure. Just under Sunset Blvd. for me
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Webhamster Henry:

Open Plan and Standing Desks are things I kind of escape by working at home.
  6:31pm
uptowner:

Actually - as if it acutely aware of the irony and insidiousness of the "Don't Be Evil" slogan - Google actually dropped it from it's official internal mission statement, a few years ago
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ultradamno:

Fred MacMurray playing a predatory sleaze and killing it.
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Webhamster Henry:

I couldn't for the life of me figure out who'd have time for those foosball tables at the office.
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David Shortell:

I recall the 1933 film "Baby Face" where Barbara Stanwyck seduces her way to the top of a skyscraper heirarchy, meeting office worker John Wayne on the way.
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Greg from ZONE 5:

Evening, Mark & all!
  6:32pm
Martinibomb:

Hi Mark! And fellow listeners
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Constance De Witt:

Finance and marketing have time for foosball, Henry...
  6:33pm
Dean:

Related, Cornelia Visman's Files.
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Mark Hurst:

@Greg hi! Thanks for joining!
  6:33pm
ignatatus666:

My reference to langoleers is incorrect
It was a movie where people’s heads explode for no reason.
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Mark Hurst:

@Martinibomb welcome!
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ultradamno:

Lars Von Trier's The Boss Of It All is an interesting play on the undercover boss concept.
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Webhamster Henry:

Red Headed Woman: sleeping your way to the top! Good ol' pre-code movies! en.wikipedia.org...
  6:34pm
Dean:

Visman, per the publisher of the English translation: "Files are not simply administrative tools; they mediate and process legal systems. The genealogy of the law described in Vismann's Files ranges from the work of the Roman magistrates to the concern over one's own file, as expressed in the context of the files kept by the East German State Security. The book concludes with a look at the computer architecture in which all the stacks, files, and registers that had already created order in medieval and early modern administrations make their reappearance."
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Bas NL:

I work best when the rest is in the coffee corner.
  6:34pm
Glenn:

What do you think is going to happen with residential ISP pricing now if a large portion of the market starts working from home? 1Gbs FIOS for residential is $79 1GBs for business is $1000+ /mo
  6:35pm
uptowner:

@WMHenry - that's precisely the point of the foosball tables - to remind you of the fact that you'll never actually have any "free" time to use them. Any more than you'll be able to take advantage of that "unlimited vacation" many of these companies like to offer (without the slightest hint of irony)
  6:35pm
Feff Cacho:

And can’t forget Joe Versus the Volcano. Office life gave Tom Hanks a brain cloud.
  6:36pm
David in London:

Does American Psycho count as an office movie? Well, Christian Bale with an axe is my kind of workplace anyway.
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Ike:

A little less dryness and a few more plants sounds like a *great* concept for an office space.
  6:37pm
P-90:

Iconic modern office image begins at about 1:30 in this clip from The Crowd (1927):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-9rcO0eFaA
  6:37pm
Dean:

Yeah, but Disney delivered the Tiki Room way before Rainforest Cafe.
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Webhamster Henry:

My sister worked at Bloomberg, they had open salad bar all day and people walking around distributing candy.
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listener james from westwood:

Rainforest Café was forced to close after an irate chef braised a toucan.
  6:37pm
Kpx:

@Webhamsterhenry: did you take your cue from the movie office space when Peter gibbons dismantled his cubicle.
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TDK60:

I worked in a music club "office" once. Almost off-topic to mention.
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Webhamster Henry:

@Kpx Office Space: 1999. Me: 1985 or so.
  6:41pm
Dean:

Not ironic: "Whether displaying a corporate art collection in the workplace, providing free museum access to employees and their families, or sponsoring a gallery event in the community, investments in the arts can work to assuage some of the concerns keeping CEOs up at night."--https://www.strategy-business.com/article/Art-Is-Good-for-Business
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ultradamno:

Well, those mists sound like a Terry Gilliam concept, maybe for the upper floors in Brazil
  6:42pm
anon Amazon subsidiary employee:

that sounds very Amazon, at least at our subsidiary in terms of wacky ideas that somebody brainstormed and then abandoned, they’re always coming up w/these new concepts and then bailing on em
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Webhamster Henry:

@Dean Bloomberg HQ has art sprinkled around it as well. Because: Bloomberg.
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Handy Haversack:

Really great interview! Thanks, Mark and Sheila.
  6:42pm
P-90:

I was wondering how far we’d get into the first Techtonic of the new year before getting bummed out...
  6:42pm
Dean:

I guess Bloomberg's C-Suite has trouble sleeping?
  6:42pm
wenzo llc.:

they should make a sequel to office space... set in space
  6:42pm
David in London:

Tati’s Playtime gives a wry overview of some classic 60s office life too.
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Webhamster Henry:

There so much more to be said about offices, so I guess I'll have to take a look at her book.
  6:44pm
Dean:

I always admired the pun of Back Orifice.
  6:45pm
JJ NY-SC:

Working Girl
  6:45pm
wenzo llc.:

Brazil... that's about an office... sort of...
  6:45pm
David in London:

After Hours had to settle with Joe Frank for ‘similarities’, didn’t it?
  6:45pm
P-90:

Anyone mention Mike Nichols’ Working Girl?
  6:45pm
kora:

Working Girl
  6:45pm
JJ NY-SC:

Working Girl-The movie that is
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Jeff Moore:

I hate hate hate the open plan office.

It's basically impossible to concentrate on anything.
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Webhamster Henry:

9 to 5!
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Carmichael:

Clock Watchers.
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Aitch:

As per W Henry, Malcovich.
  6:46pm
kpx:

@Webhamsterhenry: so when you saw that did you ever suspect that someone seen you do that and passed it on down the line until eventually it got to the writer of office space.
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Handy Haversack:

"Would you go to LUNCH, George?!"
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Carmichael:

Coffee is for closers!!
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PaulRobeson1920:

@Handy @6:01 Solidarity would imply being aware of participating in something larger than yourself. The working poor and un-educated can never never constitute “a class”, let alone a revolutionary class.
  6:47pm
The Butterman:

Joe vs. the Volcano! I know he can get the job, but can he DO the job?
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ultradamno:

If The Office makes you angry and depressed, don't watch Extras, Gervais pushes the nyah-nyahs at the pathetic to the point of being insufferable.
  6:47pm
P-90:

Yes @ David in London, the After Hours script was largely stolen from Joe Frank (the director and producers didn’t know until later).
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Carmichael:

Office Space.
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listener james from westwood:

@Mark: The guy who intro'd me to the UK Office had never worked a real job, just gofer BS for his .001%'er parents. He had literally no idea how mordant and accurate the show was about toxic jerks in middle management.

By contrast, I proofread Jenna Fischer's "how to get into acting"/autobio and she made the Office US set sound much kinder than the UK show. Also she was an utter dear to read and possibly learn from.
  6:47pm
Alison Porchnik:

The Apartment!
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grtyvr:

Way Downtown is a Gary Burns film about living indoors.
  6:48pm
Dean:

Do we know that Stevens didn't enjoy his insurance work? Ives was in the same line.
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listener james from westwood:

@ultradamno: I fucking hate Gervais, so it saves me a lot of decisions on his projects.
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Webhamster Henry:

@kpx I think dismantling veal pens is one's first instinct about them. There are people who fear the consequences of that; I was not one of them. And I had an Allen wrench and knew how to use it.
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ultradamno:

Yeah, he's awful
  6:49pm
wenzo llc.:

what about Terry Gilliam's "The Crimson Permanent Assurance" from the meaning of life... that's about an office... technically...
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Jeff Moore:

The US version of The Office waters the one true original's cringe into insipidity - in common with US adaptations of British shows in general.
  6:49pm
Morgan:

Visioneers (2008)
  6:49pm
David in London:

A last shout out for ‘The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin’. US viewers might not know that one.
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Carmichael:

I have a meeting with The Bobs.
  6:50pm
dano59:

Boccaccio '70
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tim from champaign (now washington):

Joe Versus The Volcano! That's a great one.
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Webhamster Henry:

How To Get AHead in Advertising.
  6:50pm
engineer mike:

Working girl
  6:50pm
ignatatus666:

I thought about Joe and the Volcano as well
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Michael in Montclair:

Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, specifically when Harold deals with his superiors from his office job.
  6:51pm
dano59:

O Lucky Man!
A Christmas Carol
Fifth Avenue Girl w/ Ginger Rogers
  6:51pm
ignatatus666:

@Morgan yes!!! That’s the name I was looking for.
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ultradamno:

He's a bank executive in American Psycho, I don't recall how much time he's in an office environment though.
  6:52pm
Martinibomb:

O Lucky man is awesome! good choice
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Webhamster Henry:

Also A Shock to the System
  6:53pm
TimBk:

The apartment. Great xmas part scene.
  6:54pm
Matt:

How to Train Your Rabbit, w/ Orson Wells and the Tom Smothers, directed by Brian DePalma.
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Webhamster Henry:

I was not an Office person, but I binge-watched Parks & Rec. Also Halt & Catch Fire.
  6:55pm
Juli:

I am totally a person who needs an office for work
  6:55pm
P-90:

MUST mention Ermanno Olmi’s brilliant 1961 Italian neorealist movie “Il Posto”, about a young Italian man finding his first job in the postwar corporate world.
  6:56pm
Juli:

And I need like "a reading room"
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ultradamno:

Parks & Rec started pretty close to The Office for the first couple of seasons, but really tosses it off and comes into it's own pretty decisively after that. I liked Halt a lot.
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tim from champaign (now washington):

Thanks, Mark! Happy new year!
  6:57pm
David in London:

Thanks Mark.
  6:57pm
P-90:

Does Ken interview Mark, or does Mark interview Ken?
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TDK60:

See ya Mark.
  6:57pm
Old Dave:

A title clerk asked me to FAX her a form she'd emailed me last week. So that she'd have my signature on a page she wants to mail my bank. Who has a 1980's FAX machine was my question for her.
She couldn't accept my signing of the emailed page. Then emailing it back...

My image of this woman in her office cube with low-tech persisting is sad.
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ultradamno:

What annoyed me about US The Office is it really kicked off the non-specific documentary interview device.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Thanks Mark and skeltons and Ya’ll! Happpy New Years!! Peace and LoVe always!
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listener james from westwood:

Thanks, Mark!
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks again, Mark! Glad to be here this week!

I love this recording!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Great comments this evening (and a lot of movie viewing on the list now).
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Webhamster Henry:

Glad you're ending this show Whistling While you Work!
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Webhamster Henry:

[It's a WFMU classic!]
  6:59pm
kpx:

once upon a Time eons ago I had a part-time job helping to install shelves in an office building on the picatinny arsenal base. talk about a huge waste taxpayers money, more than half of the people weren't in their cubicles. others were just asleep, some of them were just goofing around doing other things, and this one joker just went around 2 cubicle to cubicle BS'sing and then he looked at his watch at 10:30 I said it was time to go to lunch didn't come back until 2:30.
  7:08pm
ignatatus666:

Welcome back to prime time
Haven’t heard your show in quite some time
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WR:

Thank you Mark and all playlist contributors.
  7:09pm
ignatatus666:

Welcome back
Haven’t heard your show in quite some time
  7:12pm
Richard Kurdach:

Still some of the plain old crap occurs in an office....everyone knows your business...then theres alliances....the attack of the bday cakes....abusive managers-directors-vice presidents etc....softball games.....
  7:13pm
ignatatus666:

The Gods must be crazy remix
  7:45pm
ignatatus666:

I miss hearing the theme music for this show
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