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Favoriting July 13, 2020: Zoom in schools w/DJ Paradox, surveillance & police, and deepfakes

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Tonight: Zoom in schools, surveillance & police, and deepfakes

Pointers:

Teens Flock To New App Where They Just Enter Own Personal Data Into Form (The Onion, July 10)

Why Is a Tech Executive Installing Security Cameras Around San Francisco? (NYT, July 10). See also Chris Gilliard's response, Dave Id's response, and Tawana Petty's response. There's more on Detroit's Project Green Light in this NYT story from 2019.

Could This City Hold the Key to the Future of Policing in America? (NYT, July 12)

Respeecher (modulates the user's voice to sound like someone else)

In Event of Moon Disaster (film showing alternative history with a deepfake of President Nixon)

Headliner Voices (you type, fake celebrities talk)

Color of Change, a leader of the Stop Hate for Profit campaign

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  Zoom in schools, surveillance & police, and deepfakes - feat. DJ Paradox
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting
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  Mark's intro  
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  Interview with DJ Paradox  
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  Mark's comments on tech and law enforcement  
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  Deepfake feature  
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Neil Young  My New Robot   Favoriting
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Listener comments!

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm
ultradamno:

Mark! Techtononicoms!
  6:01pm
David in London:

Good evening Technoids and all hail Mark Hurst.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Handy Haversack:

Mark! ultradamno! David, mein dickie old chum! Techyon beams!

Tech gin: poured. Let's mix it up!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
  6:02pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

greetings from Tannersville Mr. H!
Avatar 6:02pm
Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Techtonicooms!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
ultradamno:

Hiya Handy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Handy Haversack:

Hey, us, too. We were in VT last weekend. So weird.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
PaulRobeson1920:

Greetings! The Pigeon sent me
  6:02pm
David in London:

Hey ultradamno, Bop.
Handy, how goes it my fellow?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
ultradamno:

Hiya DiL!
Avatar 6:03pm
spodiodi:

aloha, Mark Hurst and all
  6:04pm
David in London:

Hey spodiodi!
  6:04pm
P-90:

Good afternoon, Mark and Hurstopians.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm
Handy Haversack:

Good, David. An actual breeze blows. I assume Google is using it to spy on my hair flexibility metrics, but at this point, I'll take it.

Hey, spod!
  6:05pm
Dave Miss:

Howdy all. Welcome back Mark
Avatar 6:05pm
spodiodi:

hey david!
  6:05pm
dano59:

Upstate - false sense of security re: masks, distancing.
Avatar 6:06pm
spodiodi:

hey handy! hope the breeze keeps up
Avatar 6:06pm
spodiodi:

(we need more data)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Webhamster Henry:

Hi Mark, DJ Paradox, Skeletons & Tech friends
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
listener james from westwood:

Don't give Silicon Valley any ideas, Onion.
Avatar 6:09pm
spodiodi:

takes one "dare" to make it real, james
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Handy Haversack:

"I admire its purity."

spod, data-gathering-stymieing buzz-cut protocols have been operationalized.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi all! Thanks for joining in this evening!
Avatar 6:11pm
spodiodi:

challenge*
  6:11pm
P-90:

“Switch? To not having a phone?”
  6:13pm
David in London:

“Unclouded by conscience, remorse or delusions of morality.”
I’ve been trying to get my youngest stepdaughter to understand the covert substructure of the Tik Toc Faustian pact, but she just doesn’t see it as something to really be concerned about.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Handy Haversack:

Yes, that was an inspiring episode. This all lands so weirdly here since Kate has a flip phone that almost never works outside NYC (and is rarely turned on inside) and I have never had a mobile phone. DJ Paradox might bully me!
  6:14pm
P-90:

Congratulations @DJ-P!
  6:14pm
olivia:

yay, DJ paradox!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Webhamster Henry:

Can we get a show with DJ Paradox, Dj Purple Haze, DJ Icepack, Juniper, Isobel, and maybe other 2nd generation DJs?
  6:15pm
P-90:

Cute intro music, tres NPR
Avatar 6:19pm
Heidee:

Mark, my students learned so much with all this homeschooling - about themselves, about what really matters in life to them, about what is precious. They have outgrown themselves and I am very proud of them. Our school year in Germany is just ending and the students are actually saying "I miss school". Bless their little cotton socks.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
listener james from westwood:

[audience noise] ooooOOOOOOooohhhhh!
  6:20pm
David in London:

Mark, man, admit when you’re beaten.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
listener james from westwood:

Yes! Mute those jerk kids! If I'd done it the only way we had in the 70s I'd be in jail!
  6:21pm
David in London:

Gruss dich Heidee!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Webhamster Henry:

You kids shut out of chat can always go out of band.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Handy Haversack:

Never! Truth will out! Stick to your guns, Mark. Maybe lay in a supply of Lunchables, though, so DJ Paradox understands how bad it was for our generation.
Avatar 6:21pm
Heidee:

Hallöchen David
  6:22pm
Listener Robert:

So they waste time with school online same as they waste it in person?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
listener james from westwood:

It's practice for wasting time on the job.
Avatar 6:23pm
spodiodi:

thanks, DJ Paradox!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
Handy Haversack:

Thanks, DJ Paradox!

Kate, the teacher, says, "Yeah, sounds like a seventh-grade boy to me."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Webhamster Henry:

My ex used to be a remote teacher for homeschooling kids all around the world with a very good platform. she left the program because she didn't like being online all the time.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
ultradamno:

The Onion on law enforcement www.theonion.com...
  6:27pm
P-90:

Mark won’t even say the name of the “Google product”
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Handy Haversack:

But the other parties in China -- we're safe there?

Mark, do you uninstall every time after a meeting? I do. I wonder if it makes a difference.

Whereby.com works great on Kate's computer, but my older one can't handle it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Webhamster Henry:

There's also Jitsi meet, open source Zoomery.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Webhamster Henry:

meet.jit.si
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
watchpocket:

Thee are free adopen source videoconferencing apps:

www.fsf.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Mark Hurst:

@P-90 true... if you say the name of a Google product, it might appear
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Mark Hurst:

@Webham @watchpocket good pointers, thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Webhamster Henry:

.. or if not appear, what you were talking about will show up in an ad.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
watchpocket:

www.fsf.org...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
ultradamno:

You have to say it three times but even if you mean to say it once the other two times get autofilled.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Handy Haversack:

Webhamster, I can't get jitsi to be stable at all on my machine. Do you build a local installation (a "bridge," I think it was called?). I have an old computer, and Jitsi seizes up without fail.
Avatar 6:31pm
Heidee:

henry, our school wants us teachers to use Jitsi but it never works due to incompatibilities of browsers. Moreover, I had a student signing in as "I am groot" before me so he designed himself the host of the meeting and was being very disruptive. I couldn't kick him out either. Wouldn't recommend Jitsi.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Mark Hurst:

@ultra heh good one
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Webhamster Henry:

the standard open source disclaimer is :" don't like it? fix it yourself!!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Handy Haversack:

Right. Of course it is.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Handy Haversack:

That scales.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
Webhamster Henry:

The "answer" is "Karen cams"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Handy Haversack:

Panopticon. It was not meant to be a cookbook.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Travisano66:

I loved that the first drawback your son named about the phone was that it was $20. If you'd told him it was $100, I wonder it he'd have liked it a little bit more.
  6:37pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

now you can watch my comings and goings to go where i am when i'm not at my home... great.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
PaulRobeson1920:

lawenforcementactionpartnership.org... Root cause of this funding issue... What justifies the massive budget? A “public enemy number 1”
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm
PaulRobeson1920:

Cannabis is a safer alternative to the drug Alcohol....
  6:39pm
castor:

Instead of asking how to deter or catch the people who steal from you, why not ask why your fellow humans have to resort to stealing in the first place and maybe get to the root of the problem?
  6:40pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

its a long way from the little old lady looking through the curtains. now THAT was a neighborhood watch that worked.
  6:40pm
David in London:

Ah the old golden data retriever.
  6:41pm
P-90:

Awww, the lost doggie came home
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
Handy Haversack:

Mark, did the NYT story specify "cute and fluffy"? Because it's important to how I react.

At least the NYT doesn't have any creepy data policies. Pure open access there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
PaulRobeson1920:

Yep computeeR got the wrong guy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Handy Haversack:

David, you don't want to see what they have done with data bloodhounds in NYC these days.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
Webhamster Henry:

Questions in headlines make me think of "Chariot of the Gods?"
  6:43pm
David in London:

The question mark at the end of the journalistic proposition - the oldest trick in the book.
Avatar 6:44pm
Bas NL:

This morning i fired up my laptop... Congratulations, we've just installed Edge and we're now taking you on a tour!! I closed my laptop.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Handy Haversack:

Ha, Bas, that happened to me a few weeks back, and I run an OS that Microsoft says it is not updating or supporting anymore!

I uninstall a lot of things.
  6:47pm
P-90:

“Minority Report-like predictive policing algorithms...” this is why I listen to this show
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm
Handy Haversack:

Welcome to the corner, everyone!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
ultradamno:

I'm pretty those googly eyes Lily is putting on her stuff in the AT&T commercial are setting up a miniature surveillance camera scheme.
Avatar 6:49pm
Megaroni:

We need more people like you Mark! Thank you for this much needed news about the evilness of this horror world were becoming
  6:49pm
David in London:

Traditional policing methods such as predictive algorithms were a fundamental part of Robert Peels original policing principles in 1829.
  6:49pm
The Butterman:

My police chief just resigned this morning. On tape talking badly about other public figures. I’ve only known him as a terrific guy and father.
Avatar 6:49pm
Bas NL:

Yesterday i received a personally addressed ad from Ueber. WTF. @Handy, by now i'm considering reverting to DOS.. ;)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Webhamster Henry:

I was going to say/sing "Tradition!!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
Franco Twinkie:

Speaking of NYPD, the only time I have ever been hit by a cop was in New York City, for passing out in the library. Not because I was drunk but because I was sick. What was that song NWA did....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Webhamster Henry:

<takes humble bow>
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
chris:

"rapacious silicon valley monopolists" we know who you are and we are watching you.

thanks for another great show, Mark!
  6:52pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

Mark you rule.
you almost make me miss Dave Emory; at least his nazis didn't use computers, servers and data-mining.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
John from NP:

Camden, NJ? Have you ever been to Camden?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
PaulRobeson1920:

I imagine Mass surveillance would have made the “Chinese Exclusion Act” even more effective in excluding people
Avatar 6:53pm
Bas NL:

Wow.. scary real.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
PaulRobeson1920:

This deep fake voice is really something
  6:53pm
David in London:

This really makes me feel despondent.
  6:54pm
ignatatus666:

That’s crazy!!
  6:54pm
P-90:

“I’m telling the truth...this time...”
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
ultradamno:

With that voice technology and the rise of AI actors we might finally get a Keanu Reeves movie with a convincingly lifelike lead.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Webhamster Henry:

I used Headiner voices to make Morgan Freeman do his old Easy Reader routines.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Handy Haversack:

That's not real David (in London)!

Thank you, Mark, again and always.
  6:55pm
David in London:

The worrying Mark Hurst half-chuckle will remain impervious to deep fakery though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
John from NP:

What are the big tech companies gonna do with Camden NJ surveillance data?
  6:56pm
P-90:

Thanks, Hurst!
Avatar 6:56pm
spodiodi:

Mark, thank you for your tireless dedication, and thoughtfulness..

I mostly gave up after too many "chicken little"s, "you're paranoid"s and "weirdo"s, a long time ago
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
PaulRobeson1920:

hahaha ultra... thanks good show
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Webhamster Henry:

Fake guests next week!
Avatar 6:57pm
Bas NL:

Thanks Mark! Good one!
  6:57pm
Listener Bop Monroe:

Thanks again Mr. H!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Appreciate all the good comments this evening. Have a good week.
  6:58pm
P-90:

“Cancel”?! But I get free delivery on almost everything..!
Avatar 6:58pm
spodiodi:

thanks, Webhamster Henry too
also to the skeleton crew and the humorous commenters :D byebye
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
ultradamno:

In my day robots had gorilla bodies and tried to strangle pretty girls and that's how we liked it!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
ultradamno:

revengeoftheinnergeek.wordpress.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Franco Twinkie:

Robot Monster, yes!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Don't be like me and nearly sleep through Techtonic!
  7:36pm
ignatatus666:

I remember being in a high chair so 1 ?
And sharing my food with our weimerana( grey dog)
Her name was Gypsy.
  7:39pm
ignatatus666:

Oh boy
I just posted on Marks chat by accident

I remember being 1 or 2 sitting in a high chair at our apartment in the Bronx and sharing my food with our dog Gypsy ( a weimerana?)
  7:41pm
ignatatus666:

Sra I posted those a few nights ago to Darren’s show as a topic was Zoom the video chat not the kids show
@Dan
We loved Zoom a Zooma Zoom!
I think Freddy Krüger robbed their style
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