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Favoriting May 4, 2020: Movies covering pandemics, dystopias, AI, and tech gadgets - chosen by Mark's friend Paul in Atlanta

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Tonight: Movies for pandemics and dystopias, with Mark's friend Paul in Atlanta



• Wikipedia: The Day of the Triffids, by John Wyndham. (See also bookshop.org listing.)

Letter to Jeff Bezos from David Cicilline et al, May 1. Cicilline also provides a pointer to the penalty for perjury.

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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techtollywoodlanders!
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Handy Haversack:

Well, OK! Techgin (well, Techwine for now) is poured. Ready for some Techtonic!

Mark! Techyon drives!
  6:02pm
David in London:

Greetings Technoids. Hello Mark, hey Handy and Ultradamno.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Now in Techto-vision!
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Mark Hurst:

Hi ultra, Handy, David, KfHP!
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Phillippe Bastille:

Howdy technopeople
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geezerette:

Howdy, Mark and tech-friends and phobes.
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Webhamster Henry:

Hi Friends and Skeletons!
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Handy Haversack:

Ah, Day of the Triffids is a pretty good one! I like Wyndham a lot.

I discovered today that where I say "quarantini," my friend in Edinburgh says "locktails"! Great minds.

David! Ultradamno! Ken! Glad to be here at the end of all things with such fine folx!
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Bas NL:

Mark! Olivia! Tectonicopias!
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ultradamno:

Hiya DiL!
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Handy Haversack:

Library edition of the ... DAW edition?
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annie:

grim....... a relative term
  6:04pm
David in London:

Hi Phillippe.
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ultradamno:

Hey, if I were looking for a ray of sunshine, I wouldn't be here.
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Phillippe Bastille:

Hey DiL! Handy! KFHP! Bas!
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Mark Hurst:

Phillippe, geezerette, Webham, Bas, Annie, hello!
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queems:

hi mark hurst & all
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Mark Hurst:

Hey queems, thanks for joining
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geezerette:

Keep speaking truth ,Mark
  6:06pm
David in London:

Yeah, we’re here for the truth Mark, not the big yuks, so you keep on keeping on.
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chresti:

Hi Mark and Techtonistas!
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Phillippe Bastille:

I'll update on live sports!: {crickets}
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melinda:

That's my era of pop culture awareness too.
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Webhamster Henry:

Techtonic Movie Night!
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Mark Hurst:

@geezerette, @david, thanks
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Phillippe Bastille:

hey chresti, melinda
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Handy Haversack:

Phillippe! queems! chresti! Good to see you!

"On tonight's interview: 'Cellular Phone? Try Cellular Marketing! Amazon Owns Your Cells Now'!"

Yeah. But we are here the real talk!
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queems:

i texted my boss to tell him that zoom was an unsavory video conference tool and he never texted me back lol
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Ken From Hyde Park:

We need to get past these current virus and Big Tech issues and get the the real problem in tech: portrait mode videos!
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Handy Haversack:

^for
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Mark Hurst:

@chresti, @melinda thanks for joining in!
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Mark Hurst:

@KenfHP I am with you on that one!
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Phillippe Bastille:

welcome to my life. Takes me a couple weeks to finish a book
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Mark Hurst:

@queems thanks for trying, anyway
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chresti:

I still have trouble focusing.
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herb.nyc:

Pop culture? I've got STAR mag now. Did you know Jennifer Garner and her 14yo daughter look alike? (Mag courtesy of spa next door)
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Bas NL:

Same here Mark..
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Mark Hurst:

hi @herb
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brainiac:

I've been trying to finish Gravity's Rainbow for 3 years now.
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queems:

@mark they can't say i didn't warn them
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Mark Hurst:

@queems that would make a nice tag line for Techtonic
  6:10pm
David in London:

Hey brainiac.
  6:10pm
ignatatus666:

We had no choice as kids to watch the movie several times
My parents loved it.
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listener james from westwood:

Oh, my mom adored Day of the Triffids! She always referred to gigunda plants in the garden or out and about as Triffids.

Also reassured to hear I'm not the only one who's been shite at finishing books since the virus hit.
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queems:

@mark next year's marathon t shirt
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annie:

aahh..you're so young...somuch good stuff written before you were awake
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Franco Twinkie:

Well, Mark, I never read the book, but I saw the movie! Ha.
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Webhamster Henry:

@mark, @queems or "I Told You So."
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brainiac:

David! *waves*
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Mark Hurst:

@James you are not alone
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geezerette:

Same, my brain froze.
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ultradamno:

JG Ballard's disaster novels are good for this time, Crystal World, Drowned World and Concrete Island
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herb.nyc:

Friends recommend a Jack London short story about surviving, post-disaster. I downloaded it from a free website. Forgot the title.
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Phillippe Bastille:

@herb.nyc wait, Jennifer Garner has a 14 yr old?
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Mark Hurst:

@Franco @ignatatus shows what I know about movies - I didn't know there was a film version
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Bootsie:

Oh, I SO love this movie!
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Mark Hurst:

@ultra good pointers, thanks
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Handy Haversack:

Crest edition. Nice cover.

Took me forever to finish this book on the Danish expedition to Yemen in the 1760s, but I have made faster progress on the next book.

Never seen the Triffids movie but read the book a couple of times.
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Mark Hurst:

@annie happy to hear any reading recommendations you have!
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Mark Hurst:

Hi @Bootsie
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herb.nyc:

"The ease of travel"- I've done 4 subway rides since march 23. All quick and easy, whew.
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annie:

i'll start a list mark
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Mark Hurst:

@annie thx
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herb.nyc:

Ooh, GClooney and wife Amal having quarantine issues. He says she's kinda bossy.
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Handy Haversack:

Listener p20 collected a list of reading recs from alot of WFMU listeners, starting in a Modern World ep. Linked from his profile: docs.google.com...
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Ike:

As for sci-fi, I've just started listening to the audiobook "We Are Legion (We Are Bob)" and it's quite entertaining so far.
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David in London:

Mark, there’s a dark twin to The Day of the Triffids called The Death of Grass by an author called John Christopher. He was contemporary with Wyndham in the 50s, and it’s a truly chilling novel.
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joe mulligan:

I've been trying to think why the 7:00pm clap/hooting/pan banging reminds me of the movie 1984. Then I realized, it's very much like "Two Minutes Hate." Sure it's people "supporting essential workers" but is it really helping them? Why not support better pay for essential workers? It seems more like people letting out their frustrations against the invisible enemy in this war with covid
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queems:

there used to be a video series on youtube that i liked in college called "28 slater" about mario lopez turning into ac slater every 28 days
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Mark Hurst:

@David hadn't heard of Death of Grass - thanks
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ultradamno:

Panic In Year Zero is a movie that keeps coming up in my mind these days also.
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Franco Twinkie:

Mark, It was one of those bizzaro British sci-fi movies that they showed on Saturday afternoon TV. The solution for the problem was music or salt water, I can't remember which.
  6:18pm
Russ Never Sleeps:

So, I shared Mark's ACLU interview re: contact tracing with 8 colleagues/friends, and nobody cared. In fact, I was mildly scoffed at. Why is everyone so apathetic about their privacy/civil liberties being compromised, etc? It's difficult to not be angry with them over it.
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melinda:

@Russ that's sad.
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Bootsie:

I might be in camp 2... Contagion is on my list but I also kind of want to get away from it right now.
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Mark Hurst:

@Russ I'm sorry to hear that. Thanks for trying. (see also @queems's comment above)
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chresti:

Yeah- Panic in the Year Zero.
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herb.nyc:

In the movie, what movie does Patrick Dempsey see?
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melinda:

Patrick Dempsey is from Maine.
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Handy Haversack:

@Russ, that happens to me and Kate all the time -- and I am sure to Mark, too!

But not letting acquiescence get normalized is still worthwhile, I think.
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Bootsie:

@Franco I know which but not spoiling it. ;-)
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annie:

listen to the audiobook, The Andromeda Stran"
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melinda:

Yes to Shaun of the Dead! We need non-downers.
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listener james from westwood:

"You might remember him from" in a movie context has big Troy McClure energy.
  6:21pm
P-90:

Mark: “McDreamy? Vas is das McDreamy?”
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Franco Twinkie:

Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price, and Panic In The Year Zero with Ray Milland. My picks for thrills and chills indoors.
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annie:

[strain]
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ultradamno:

Also, Twilight Zone "Stopover in a Quiet Town", probably the best of it's 'someone wakes up in a deserted place' episodes.
  6:21pm
ignatatus666:

I’m with Mark
Never say
He was .... as you already know
Nope
I’m clueless who these people are when friends suggest a program or movie.
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brainiac:

The Cornetto trilogy is always a good bet
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Mark Hurst:

@Handy @Russ yes I'm familiar with the feeling. But you're not alone - we're not alone - in trying to spread the word.
  6:22pm
David in London:

Russ, don’t be discouraged. One has to batter at the door before it gives any. I’ve been amazed by how few people seem at all worried about the dark shadow currently looming above civil liberties.
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Bootsie:

Oh, no. I Am Legend was my LEAST fave film adaptation of that story.
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Mark Hurst:

@David well put
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chresti:

Nice to see you too, Handy!
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listener james from westwood:

You want a peek into the way the armed "repoen the stores!" bozos think, go for Judge's later "Idiocracy."
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Mark Hurst:

@ultra @annie @Franco good picks, thx. Also, stay tuned for my comment post-interview...
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Ike:

I miss going into the office. A lot.
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chresti:

Hi Phillippe. Nice to see you, too.
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melinda:

Office Space is so good.
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geezerette:

It's hilarious!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Haha ... Yes to Office Space!
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ultradamno:

Liquid Sky is a pretty good one, maybe more applicable to STDs, but still an argument for social distancing.
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annie:

imiss coffee shops
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melinda:

@annie me too
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Mark Hurst:

@annie I miss walking through bookstores.
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Bootsie:

I can't believe I thought Idiocracy was hilarious but ridiculous. Hah.
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queems:

during this pandemic i've watched a suite of movies that depicts the south/midwest in some type of way- to wong foo, true stories, and son in law
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melinda:

I've been having stress dreams.
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Mark Hurst:

@Bootsie would have helped if Mike Judge had told us that Idiocracy was a documentary
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Webhamster Henry:

I miss nothing, but then again, I'm a disembodied brain in a vat.
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queems:

i've never had an attention span for movies/tv
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paidforby:

You should watch Paprika too! Inception took a lot of its classic scenes from it.
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The Butterman:

I couldn’t disagree MORE about Roger Rabbit. It holds up. More than ever.
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Mark Hurst:

@queems good picks
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Mark Hurst:

@paidforby thanks, hadn't heard of Paprika
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annie:

it's funny how much easier it is to read a book in a coffeee shop than at at home
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Handy Haversack:

Heh, my friend in AI did NOT like that table ... 6.1? Fun talk with him about it, though.
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Mark Hurst:

@Butterman interesting - I haven't seen it since it came out
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melinda:

@annie really? I find them more distracting.
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ultradamno:

Lars Von Trier had a particularly crazy one with Udo Kier called Epidemic. His TV mini-series The Kingdom would be a great one for this.
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Mark Hurst:

@Handy did your friend listen to the interview? interested in their impressions (since I disagreed with the AI line in the table, too)
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Bootsie:

@Mark a quite prescient one!
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annie:

yes, mark, book shops!! yeah,melinda..weird
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Webhamster Henry:

Lars v Trier's Melancholia is also a good end-o-the-worlder
  6:28pm
David in London:

There always The Road to really lighten the mood.
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Mark Hurst:

@ultra good one - new to me
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chresti:

Haha Webham.
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annie:

ex machina.....meh...bored
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Handy Haversack:

I don't think he did (he knows dkg also, BTW), but I ran through the logic behind the AI line, and he did not care for the "well, when we don't know how to calculate the odds, we poll the experts and the public."

Which, I can see the problems there.
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chresti:

The brain that wouldn't die.
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ultradamno:

Melancholia is a wonderful movie, a great one to speak to depression and alienation of this time.

Ex Machina is great, Inception and I Am Legend were...undeniably movies.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Any thumbs up for Silent Running? I remember the cure robots.
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diciassette:

Webhamster Henry, that was bound to come up, wasn't it (loved it)
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GListener MW:

Just watched Ex Machina recently. What a forward-thinking modern masterpiece
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annie:

@KfhP: LOVED silent running
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Bootsie:

I love slow, thoughtful sci-fi.
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Handy Haversack:

Yeah, I liked Ex Machina a lot. More than Devs, I think. Though Devs had its moments, that's for sure.
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GListener MW:

@david — I saw The Road in cinema with my dad on a rainy Christmas Day, which was perfectly apropos for the vibe of the film itself. XD
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Webhamster Henry:

@Annie ever see MOON?
  6:31pm
David in London:

I’m going to big up a nearly forgotten AI sci-fi film called The Forbin Project, which predicted an AI take over (along the lines of Nick Bostrum’s paperclip scenario) in about 1970.
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brainiac:

@Webhamster: Fully agree regarding Melancholia. It's a good one.
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ultradamno:

A more recent one that became an instant favorite for me was It Follows, certainly diseaselike in effect and dealing with maintaining community in an alienating situation.
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annie:

yes, i had to see it a couple times, finally dug it
  6:32pm
GListener MW:

I love “Moon”. I’ll look up “The Forbin Project”!
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Webhamster Henry:

"What Is Reality" <<< Always a good trope.
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Handy Haversack:

Yeah, Moon! Real good! Claire Denis's High Life was excellent, I thought, if you like slow, thoughtful SF.

@DIL: I am with you on the Forbin Project!
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Mark Hurst:

@annie @KfHP silent running, was that like Cool Running?
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annie:

The Forbin Project!!! what a great flick!
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Handy Haversack:

@Ultrad: We really loved It Follows, definitely.
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Bootsie:

@David in London this looks good! www.imdb.com...
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geezerette:

"Sick" by Todd Haynes is good.
  6:33pm
GListener MW:

@ultra — I watched “It Follows” for the first time recently too! One of the more original horror/thrillers I’ve seen in years, and will stick with me for quite awhile
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Folsom:

I remember watching soap operas when I was a kid, then seeing forbin project, recognized eric braeden
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annie:

silent running was a human rejecting tech ...bruce dern... see it!
  6:34pm
P-90:

Daniel Craig’s Bond was very close to Fleming’s original character, which bothered a few people.
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Mark Hurst:

Aii, never heard of Forbin Project, It Follows, Melancholia, Silent Running. I really haven't seen enough movies, I guess
  6:34pm
egould310:

Sean Connery and Timothy Dalton.

Dalton brought a “meanness” to his fighting. Pretty brutal, and violent in fights. I like his Bond.
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David in London:

Glistener MW, wow, Christmas Day Road, that’s hardcore. Hats off to you!
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Webhamster Henry:

There was a TV movie in 1971 "The Paper Man", an evil computer takes over a building. www.imdb.com...
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annie:

ian fleming was funded by the cia
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ultradamno:

'Chekhov's gun' is what he's describing (a gun on the mantle in the first act will be fired by the end)
  6:35pm
Dave from Chicago:

Best part of X Machina....when he begins to conspire w robot girl....treats her as a thinking person
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Mark Hurst:

@ultra yes
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Mark Hurst:

@Dave agreed, that was the crux of the movie, I thought
  6:36pm
JakeGould:

I used to think “Silent Running” was a good movie until I watched it again and realized it’s just Bruce Dern murdering his cremates to save trees. The end message is quite muddled.
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Webhamster Henry:

"Her" is pretty techtonical. The tech is plausable, but I wish they had run the script by me first.
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annie:

....he was obcessed,Jake...already mad..
  6:38pm
Toothgrinder Tom:

This is a pretty good show.
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Mark Hurst:

@Webham the premise of Her was interesting - but the movie's commentary on it, I disagreed strongly.
  6:38pm
ignatatus666:

James Bond was replaced by Jason Bourne.
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GListener MW:

“It’s a little less tech.... is that okay? It’s called The Mirror Has Two Faces.”
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annie:

Mark, you have allt hose things written down?
  6:39pm
Toothgrinder Tom:

@annie I thought Ian Fleming hated America?
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Folsom:

how about The Manitou where at the end the souls of the computer help attack the bad guy
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melinda:

Fellini escapism.
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Mark Hurst:

@annie from the comment board you mean? or Paul's picks from the interview?
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annie:

...... he was bought up
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geezerette:

Papparazo!
  6:39pm
Toothgrinder Tom:

Do people not know 8 1/2 anymore? When did that happen?
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ultradamno:

Her is the companion piece to Lucy, in which Scarlett becomes tech (in a far more ridiculous, but also more entertaining, way)
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JakeGould:

Also, will say I think “Frankenstein” and “Bride of Frankenstein” are two great films whose message is… “If you just build things to build things you will screw up in the end…”

Frankenstein was given life and — at his heart — decent creature but was never guided and instantly feared.

Also the bride of Frankenstein was given life to be Frankie’s girlfriend… She comes to life, looks at him and just screams. Built with good intentions but when she’s given life, she does not behave as expected.
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David in London:

egould310 - Me too, I love Dalton’s bond. He brought a real grittiness to it, and a hint of sadness too. Some of the action scenes in License to Kill are still amazing.
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annie:

from the comment boad
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ultradamno:

...and she sort of ascends in the end of both movies.
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Mark Hurst:

@annie they'll be saved here on the playlist page
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brainiac:

I got a kick out of AI Alan Watts stealing Joaquin Phoenix's AI girlfriend in Her.
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Webhamster Henry:

@mark HER is absolutely where user interfaces are going -> conversational interfaces.
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GListener MW:

Great points, Jake!
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Toothgrinder Tom:

@Mark not Annie the movie.
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Handy Haversack:

@Ultrad: What about Under the Skin?
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Mark Hurst:

@Jake good perspective, thanks
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Webhamster Henry:

Frankenstein fans can watch the live action National Theatre version streaming for free for a few more days. This is with Benedict Cumberbatch and Johnnie Lee Miller (both Sherlocks in other media) swap off as the creator and creature.
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ultradamno:

@Handy Love the movie, had to get used to the minimalizing of the plot, knowing the book. But it's an entrancing movie.
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Handy Haversack:

Yeah, I thought it was excellent, @ultrad. Really enjoyed it.
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Webhamster Henry:

ntlive.nationaltheatre.org.uk...
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chresti:

I like Under the Skin, especially the music.
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P-90:

“Colossus: The Forbin Project” (1970), from the novel “Colossus” by Dennis Feltham Jones, is an often overlooked little gem of a film that I would call a MUST SEE for Mark Hurst. It smartly depicts an accidental AI takeover scenario, AS it might have happened in that period. A surprisingly satisfying film about a subject that’s (almost) always dealt with in unsatisfying ways.
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ultradamno:

Yeah, it's a real triumphant work for Levi.
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Webhamster Henry:

@chresti yeah Mika Levi .. she was on Morricone Island after that came out.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

War Games - How about a nice game of chess?
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Mark Hurst:

@P-90 duly noted, thanks!
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Tommy in Neversink:

I'm watching the Ken Burns Country Music doc
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JakeGould:

Also, “The Invisible Man” is another tech tragedy: A scientist creates a way to be invisible… And it works! But then he can’t reverse the effects… So he is not a bad person, but is trapped… And the longer time he spends being invisible, the crazier he becomes. So he’s a victim of his own success and loses his basic humanity disappears over time…
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Mark Hurst:

@Tommy good choice. Honky Tonk Radio Girl did a good show on her impressions of that series
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annie:

@p-90: a most extraordinary movie for its time@!
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JakeGould:

The 1933 James Whale film.
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Tommy in Neversink:

p-90 ....I was considering watching “Colossus" you got me off the fence
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Webhamster Henry:

So Mark - how about a home studio?
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chresti:

To be honest, I haven't watched anything.
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Mark Hurst:

@webham studio for what?
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Folsom:

might as well include Fail Safe / Dr Strangelove to include tech problems
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ultradamno:

Also, the TV show iZombie. They even build a wall.
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geezerette:

Man With The X-Ray Eyes...Ray Milland
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Webhamster Henry:

@Mark just for being live.
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melinda:

I've been watching orphaned baby orangutans learn how to be wild in forest schools, but I don't know if that's everyone's bag.
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Tommy in Neversink:

I caught the HT Radio girl Country music doc inspired shows
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Mark Hurst:

@webham ahh we'll see
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JakeGould:

Anyway, anyone want to talk about Murder Hornets?
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Webhamster Henry:

@ultrademo also the "Live Model Decoy" season of Agents of Shield. Lots of robots there!
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Mark Hurst:

@Jake I'm rooting for the bees
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Tommy in Neversink:

I don't want to think about those Hornets
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queems:

i heard hydroxychloroquine works against murder hornets
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ultradamno:

OK, is Washington State trying to be the Florida of the Pacific Northwest with giant bugs?
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JakeGould:

The Murder Hornet decapitates honey bees and two stings from that thing on a human will kill them.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Can we email our responses to Aaron in Minneapolis and let his voice machine create the audio?
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JakeGould:

Anyway, remover when Jerry Seinfeld was obsessed with making that bee movie? That was weird.
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Mark Hurst:

@queems heh.. that or UV rays
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chresti:

Except some Pleasure Dome,and other films, that Little Danny screened during Cool Blue Flame, the last couple-three episodes.
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queems:

i'm going to record myself recommending bee movie and email it in
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ultradamno:

Infectious Diseases on Agents of SHIELD thelegalgeeks.com...
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JakeGould:

More people have watched Tron than that Bee movie.
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Handy Haversack:

I have been shouting "laptop, record me!" for a few minutes now, but it seems like it's not doing it.
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Tommy in Neversink:

Best BW 50s Sci Fi: Invasion of the Body Snatchers
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Mark Hurst:

@queems love that!
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Bootsie:

We could make AI drone bees to kill the murder hornets, but as Black Mirror has taught us, that likely won't end well.
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David in London:

Tommy, for me ‘Them’ still wears that crown I think.
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Mark Hurst:

@Bootsie watch the short video Slaughterbots, available online
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ultradamno:

I see Kimmy Schmidt is going to follow up on Black Mirror's choose your adventure interactive episode gimmick, I don't know why.
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Mark Hurst:

@ultra whyyyy
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ultradamno:

Them! One of my earliest movie memories.
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Chris J:

Couple EOW-ish movies I liked -- Children of Men and Transit.
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ignatatus666:

Zeitgeist a must see
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Handy Haversack:

I thought Kimmy Schmidt had ended? It filmed around here.
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ultradamno:

I think it's the final run coming up.
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Mark Hurst:

Also listed in the playlist, but here's the URL - www.invisiblehandsdeliver.com
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Handy Haversack:

Mark, I'd have spent another hour in this fine conversation -- thanks for hosting!

Good chatting with you all!
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David in London:

Ultradamno, trust me, it’s still awesome.
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herb.nyc:

Thanks, wfmu and mark- I heard about Invisible Hands Deliver, last week. They are all over NYC and can help my parents.
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Mark Hurst:

@Handy thanks so much! Appreciate you joining in.
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David in London:

Great show tonight Mark.
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queems:

thanks mark hurst!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, Daniel Blumin!
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zebraboys:

Colossus, The Forbin Project. Movie from 1970 about supercomputers in USA & Russia...
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melinda:

Thanks Mark!
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Bootsie:

@Mark will.check it out!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Mark. Remember to include the new cover sheet on your TPS report, m'kay?
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Mark Hurst:

@queems @David thanks!
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ultradamno:

@DiL I don't doubt it! twitter.com...
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark! Thanks Paul!
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Mark Hurst:

@KfHP that'd be GREEAAAT
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Mark Hurst:

@Bas thanks for joining!
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craplivion:

thank you mark for annother very interesting show out of so many ovewr the years
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Toothgrinder Tom:

My favorite science fiction movie is the original version of ‘Solaris’.
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David in London:

Ultradamno, v cool!
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Mark Hurst:

@craplivion thanks
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listener 126464:

Thanks Mark
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Mark Hurst:

@Tom I read the book but haven't seen the movie. Book was... interesting
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Mark Hurst:

Interesting idea about an AI intelligence being planet-scale and untranslatable
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Mark Hurst:

@126464 thanks
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Handy Haversack:

The noosphere.
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melinda:

@Toothgrinder I liked Solaris. Couldn't get into it the first time I tried watching but years later it helped me through an anxiety attack.
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Toothgrinder Tom:

@Mark the movie is like a Soviet 2001.
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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ultradamno:

Flesh + Blood is pretty appropriately unpleasant plague movie.
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craplivion:

i should add that this time of life is vital to open our minds to what ever things are there,no matter how negative they may be
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Mark Hurst:

@chresti thanks!
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craplivion:

holy cows ultra.do you mean the flesh and blood movie from the late eighties with rutger and jeniffer jason leigh?geez.neverthoughtof that for a comparison.but analycally.pretty good
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craplivion:

geez.i have no patience for typing.which explains so many typos and big fingers problems
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Mark Hurst:

Paul's list:
- Contagion
- Shaun of the Dead
- I Am Legend
- Office Space
- Inception
- Deep Impact
- Ex Machina
- Goldeneye
- 8-1/2
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