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Options February 2, 2020: There's no right answer, but you're wrong

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Artist Track Album Label Year Comments Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble  Tatas-Matoes   Options Congliptious  Nessa  1968    0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ:
Sun Ra 
The Perfect Man   Options My Brother The Wind, Vol. I  Saturn Research  1970    0:02:06 (Pop‑up)
Ila Cantor  Opening: Part I   Options Encanto  Slow and Steady  2019    0:05:23 (Pop‑up)
Langham Research Centre  Gateshead Multi-Storey Car Park   Options Gateshead Multi-Storey Car Park  Econore  2018    0:10:47 (Pop‑up)
Robert Haigh  Stranger on the Lake   Options Black Sarabande  Unseen Worlds  2020    0:28:46 (Pop‑up)
Bernard Parmegiani  L'Instant Mobile   Options Chronos  Philips  1972    0:34:50 (Pop‑up)
Futuro Antico  Piano Synt   Options Dai Primitivi all’Elettronica  Casal Gajardo Records  1980/1990    0:44:34 (Pop‑up)
Albert Ayler  Water Music   Options The Last Album  Impulse!  1971    0:53:57 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ:
Booker T. & The MGs 
Melting Pot   Options         1:00:06 (Pop‑up)
Astroturf Noise  Liberty   Options Astroturf Noise  577 Records  2020    1:07:30 (Pop‑up)
Caroline Davis  Flight   Options Alula  New Amsterdam Records  2019    1:12:09 (Pop‑up)
Ambrose Akinmusire  The Lingering Velocity of the Dead's Ambitions   Options Origami Harvest  Blue Note  2018    1:15:30 (Pop‑up)
Pete Robbins  Lithium   Options Pyramid  Hate Laugh Music  2014    1:25:13 (Pop‑up)
Brass Against the Machine  Bulls on Parade   Options       via youtube  1:30:15 (Pop‑up)
A Tribe Called Quest  Excursions   Options The Low End Theory  Jive  1991    1:34:11 (Pop‑up)
Black Merda  Sometimes I Wish   Options Long Burn the Fire  Janus  1972    1:37:55 (Pop‑up)
Bob Marley & The Wailers  400 Years   Options         1:41:29 (Pop‑up)
Paul Flaherty  there's no right answer, but you're wrong   Options Dead Centipedes  Econore  2020    1:44:25 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ:
Gang of Four 
I Found that Essence Rare   Options Entertainment!        1:48:42 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ:
Mouse on Mars 
Fantastic Analysis   Options         1:51:33 (Pop‑up)
Borbetomagus  We Were Done wit the Judgment of God Last Week   Options À Go-Go  Agaric  1998/2009    2:02:19 (Pop‑up)
Gang of Four  Love Like Anthrax   Options         2:09:04 (Pop‑up)
The Big YES!  Kalmar Union   Options The Big YES!  Nakama Records  2019    2:13:53 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ:
Natural Food 
Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay   Options         2:43:05 (Pop‑up)
Jack Rose  Dark Was the Night, Cold Was the Ground   Options Two Originals of...    2002    2:47:31 (Pop‑up)
Astroturf Noise  Black Berry   Options         2:50:14 (Pop‑up)
Gang of Four  Sweet Jane   Options         2:51:24 (Pop‑up)
Music behind DJ:
Dudu Pukwana & Spear 
Flute Music   Options Flute Music  Caroline  1975    2:54:31 (Pop‑up)

Listener comments!

  8:58am Listener Gregory:

I'm conglipting all by myself here...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am Jeff Golick:

Hey, @Listener Gregory! Got some tatasmatoes for ya.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am WR:

Bright & sunny in Queens. Still cloudy in my head. Time to clear it out with Destination: Out ---
  9:02am Listener Gregory:

Go, Roscoe!
I'm guessing that all today's music comes from Kansas City and San Francisco.
Avatar 9:05am holland oats:

yo d:o! peeps!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am WR:

Sorry, I'll get it right, destination: OUT. 02022020 and the stadium event scheduled today is not in scope for my day.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07am Jeff Golick:

Hello, @WR! Welcome!
S'up, @holland oats!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am doctorjazz:

I'm willing to March into hell for a heavenly cause! (But in the meantime, I'll lay here in bed listening to D.O).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am doctorjazz:

That Cantor can play my Tempore any time, lovely!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am Jeff Golick:

Now that you mention it, @LG, that KC/SF thing would've been a really cool idea. Ah well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:13am Rock Ridge Chess Club:

Do dig d:O.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:14am Jeff Golick:

Hi hi hi, @Rock Ridge Chess Club!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:14am doctorjazz:

Is this what they call Musique concrete?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:16am Jeff Golick:

Hit the nail on the head, @doctorjazz! Great to see you; any shows this weekend?
  9:18am Listener Gregory:

To be honest, contemporary music has generally not given sufficient thought to concrete as a building material. Good to see this oversight being addressed.
  9:19am LP Stevenson:

I just watched Get Carter last Saturday. This is vivid.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20am Jeff Golick:

Now I desperately want to see it, @LP Stevenson. Hello & welcome!
Avatar 9:21am holland oats:

jungle concrète
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23am doctorjazz:

Went to Nels Cline this past Mondaky at Roulette, great show! .(acoustic guitar, , harp, acoustic bass, voice, went with my daughter). This weekend just family stuff (funeral in Bethesda Maryland yesterday, my niece's engagement party today.lots of driving.
Avatar 9:26am duke:

Good morning D:Oers
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26am WR:

Damn. A lot going on for you doctorjazz, I just have work and home chores to keep up with and can't keep up.
Avatar 9:26am fred:

Good morning Jeff and all
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26am doctorjazz:

Already went to the Cantor Bandcamp link. Ben Goldberg on clarinet...i really like him (saw him with Boom Tic Boom a few weeks ago).
  9:26am LP Stevenson:

Always here for at least the first hour, Jeff. Just not very active in the chat. Love the show!
  9:28am LP Stevenson:

If you watch Get Carter, be prepared for some incredible misogyny. Even for the time, it’s out there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:28am Jeff Golick:

Morning, @duke! Afternoon, @fred!
Yay and good to meet, @LPS.
  9:29am Listener Gregory:

Ben Goldberg had one of my favorite albums of 2015: Orphic Machine. There is poetry, but I promise you, it doesn't hurt a bit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:30am Jeff Golick:

Big doings, @doc! I went food shopping yesterday, and mailed a few packages. That was a big day.
Avatar 9:32am hyde:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32am Jeff Golick:

Appreciate that, @LP Stevenson. Having worked for a publisher that specialized in reissuing older books, I can recognize the difficulty in bringing things from decades ago into the light of current day. There are spy thrillers and such from the 60s and 70s that are just overwhelmingly sexist, to an almost debilitating degree.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32am Jeff Golick:

Greets, @hyde!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am Jeff Golick:

I should give Orphic Machine another look, @LG.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am doctorjazz:

Yeah,kinda pooped half way through, chillin' while I can.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am doctorjazz:

I like Subatomic Particle Homesick Blues (and I'm a sucker for the album title).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am WR:

OMG Jeff, are the books actually bowdlerized books clearly marked as such. I have very strong and mixed response to that process.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40am Jeff Golick:

@WR: no, we didn't mess with the books at all. Sometimes for things from the 19th century or early 20th there would be a note on the copyright page, but no bowdlerizing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am Jeff Golick:

In one case I can recall, an author's son went in and cleared up some of the baldly racist stuff that was in the original work. (The original work in this case was The Voyages of Doctor Dolittle.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am doctorjazz:

Speaking of albums I like, I found an album on my Pono player I hadn't listened to in a while, Julian Lage's World's Fair. Solo acoustic guitar, really great stuff (to my ears).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am Jeff Golick:

(That Lofting family revision happened in the 1950s or so, I think.)
Avatar 9:43am Sem:

Good morning, Jeff, greets to the :OUT contingent, and those just happening by.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am Jeff Golick:

::: furious waving ::: Hi, @Sem!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:44am Jeff Golick:

As for Ben Goldberg, I am partial to his work on the Jamie Saft record Borscht Belt Studies.
  9:45am Listener Gregory:

Re: Parmegiani, I was just thinking, "This is a bit out of date," and then I saw the date.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:46am Jeff Golick:

Yeah, funny how our ears can carbon-date electronic music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:52am WR:

I was thinking that new editions of books for youth would be some what justified but that clear notation of changes and why be included and used as tool for further learning. There has always been The Censors looming in publishing, even when authors first getting published but unacknowledged ongoing change of previously published works is a slippery slope. Sorry to go all blah blah on this tangent. My task for this morning is to do something about the nearly 50 pages I open in Chome to band camp and wikipedia pages from playlist links.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:55am WR:

Oh, and also try to remember the password for the laptop I reinstalled windows on in September. What was I thinking on that balmy Indian summer day. Clever me always out smarting me. Is tha Ayler? Yes?
  9:59am Listener Gregory:

@WR, I think you're right about the edited versions of books for youth. However, I also think it is important for people to understand how people talked and thought back in the day. I just had an uncomfortable experience reading a Daniel Defoe novel that had episodes in slave-holding Virginia. Defoe was quite enlightened for the time, but even so, his attitudes were ghastly. We shouldn't forget those things.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04am doctorjazz:

Great set!
(Already ordered 2 CDs, man, Jeff...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05am WR:

Totally agree LGregory. Keep the dreadful parts but flag it and appendicize it with contemporary context.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10am doctorjazz:

This is cool... reminds me a bit of Eugene Chadbourne' s off kilter hybrids.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10am Jeff Golick:

Oh, yeah, @doc, that's a great comparison.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19am Andrew Waterloo:

Well.. I've been to Trinity Square in Gateshead.. I have walked across the iron bridge as well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am doctorjazz:

Ok, dog walking time.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:22am Jeff Golick:

@Andrew Waterloo, world traveler! Hiya.

@doc: happy walking. Give the pooch a scritch for me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26am doctorjazz:

(Good thing there's no link to this Aiinmusire...man, wow!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am doctorjazz:

The Bad Plus did a good version of Lithium as well.
Avatar 10:28am hyde:

this is quite nice
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:30am Jeff Golick:

Oh yeah, @doc? I don't know that version.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32am doctorjazz:

They did one album with vocalists...a YouTube link for later...
Avatar 10:33am fred:

@doctorjazz: I guess this show often proves dangerous to your wallet
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am doctorjazz:

@Fred... it's a killer!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am WR:

BATM! New to me! The have lots on YouTube!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am WR:

Oh, damn, Black Merda is one of those links I have open pending snagging some for me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51am doctorjazz:

Nice to hear thus GOF.
  10:52am Dean:

Played the entire album yesterday. Used to spin it just about daily.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54am WR:

Mein gott. Econore discog for ~30 $.... this bandcamp thing can be so tempting.
  10:59am Listener Gregory:

Jeff, wouldn't Iyer's comment apply more to genres that are actually popular within the Black community? Maybe it was true in the 1940s, but now?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:00am ParUbi:

(having a lurk and listen)
Avatar 11:04am fred:

Borbetomagus! Probably the loudest show I ever attented
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04am Jeff Golick:

Hello, @ParUbi!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:05am Jeff Golick:

Here's that Vijay Iyer interview with Kelley: bostonreview.net...
  11:06am Dean:

My Borbetomagus story: A few years ago I was in Cambridge, MA, for something or other, and I wanted to visit Weirdo Records, now defunct. I'd been looking for a recording of Borbetomagus and Hijokaidan at Victo, but had never stumbled across it. As I approached the store from about a block away I sensed -- virtually smelled -- the record at Weirdo, which kept a very small inventory. Indeed it was there, and I bought it.
  11:07am Listener Gregory:

Perhaps a senator should have said, "I have a musical question" during the trial--and played this cut. That would have been useful.
Avatar 11:07am hyde:

@Dean i loved Weirdo Records
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:08am Jeff Golick:

@Dean! That sixth sense...love it when that happens.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12am Jeff Golick:

@LG: (re Iyer) that's certainly true, but still there is the basic (historical?) fact that jazz is Black American music. I suppose it now offers a less complicated proximity, but not that uncomplicated, as recent troubles at WBGO indicate: www.nytimes.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13am Doug Schulkind:

The Gang's not all here :-(
  11:14am Dean:

I did, too, hyde. Sorry it's gone.

At a glance, Vijay Iyer seems ... confused or distracted ... by "nouns that become freighted with people’s agendas." That's understandably a real danger, but then to avoid the confusing distraction one needs to devote one's energies, for a time, not to political advocacy, but to boring stuff like philology. He seems not eager to do that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16am doctorjazz:

Not to quibble with Iyer (a Genius Fellow, no), but you could say the same thing about rock, country, Blues, R & B, almost all American music, at least to some extent.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16am Jeff Golick:

@Doug: Hi, and well said. :(
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19am Jeff Golick:

Can anyone out there offer pronunciation help on the Swedish musician Anna Högberg's (playing horn on this YES) last name?
Avatar 11:21am fred:

I like the "verb instead of nouns" approach, in that it emphasizes action. I remember clearly the acrimony and wasted hours over whether I could claim to be feminist despite being male. I said had no problem being an ally instead, but that lead to more wasted hours over whether that was divisive and demeaning.
  11:26am Dean:

Great example, fred. I resolved that question for myself many years ago, thanks to a passage in a footnote in Christine Littleton's "Reconstructing Sexual Equality." She wrote, "I take the experience of living a goodly number of years as a woman to be a necessary, but not sufficient, prerequisite of feminism. Ergo, on my definition, men would have to give up their class status in some nontemporary way in order to meet the minimum qualifications."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27am Jeff Golick:

I promised this a while earlier: here is Bird Is the Worm's best of 2019 list, still in progress -- www.birdistheworm.com...
Avatar 11:27am Stork:

Umlauts are really tough. It's easier to hear and copy or look at someone's mouth to get the idea of how to form one. Been in Germany 17 years and I still have a long way to Umlaut.
  11:28am Listener Gregory:

@Fred, I find these kinds of disputes discouraging, as they are basically creating arguments among friends, when there are actual enemies and real issues that should be addressed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:29am Jeff Golick:

@Stork! Hi!

Folks, Stork is getting ready to rock your world at the top of the hour, at this location: wfmu.org...
  11:31am Dean:

Per Google Translate (caution!), it's something like:

həg - BAYRG
Avatar 11:31am Stork:

Hey Out-Timers - hope you can get past the bouncers* and into the Club tonight. Special birthday trib to Stan Getz. It started small, but it could Getz outta hand (pause for laughter).
*There are no bouncers. Just trying to gin up some fear and excitement.
Avatar 11:31am Stork:

Thanks, Jeff! Now why can't I remember to do that?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:32am Jeff Golick:

I think you just did!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am Doug Schulkind:

Let's ask Greta Thunberg.
Avatar 11:34am fred:

@Listener Gregory: These stupid disputes also absurdly build community, unless someone takes them too seriously for too long. Anarchists are great at this, if a mob emerges (like 3 people agreeing), it will naturally split. Just shooting the breeze, having each other's back when it counts is what matters
Avatar 11:34am Stork:

On Umlauts: listen to Kurt Schwitters Ur-Sonate - he does lots of em.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:35am Jeff Golick:

Big sigh. The Left has a unique ability to spend time parsing the subtleties of language and representation while the Right builds a fortress around us. I'm all for subtlety, but the political process is more boot-on-neck than quill-on-paper. BLEARGH.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:35am Jeff Golick:

  11:38am Listener Gregory:

@Fred: Thät's ït! I'm qüïttïng thïs strëäm änd stärtïng önë wïth ÄLL ümläüts!
Avatar 11:39am fred:

@Stork: Did your immersion give you insight on the metal umlaut? Especially the one in Spınal Tap
  11:40am Listener Gregory:

(Would have added the epithet running dog imperialists, but that would have required too many umlauts.)
  11:41am Listener Gregory:

This is good "to the barricades" music.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em):

leaping into the sonic fray—hello!
Avatar 11:42am fred:

@LG: Some commenters have used a site that stacks combining diacritics over and under letters for funny but barely legible display (I can't remember the name)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42am doctorjazz:

Thanks, Jeff, great (expensive) show. On the road soon. Great week all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43am Jeff Golick:

@Granny! Spicy! Tuna! (e/em) -- new pronouns?
  11:44am Listener Gregory:

@fred, my new stream will NOT be funny, I promise.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em):

@Jeff: i'm graduating everybody to my correct pronouns, though they/them is always a respectful default, in my book.
  11:47am Dean:

Buddy of mine has a new movie premiering at SXSW: https://echoesoftheinvisiblefilm.com/

His first movie, Reach of Resonance, won international awards. It featured Fred Frith, Jon Rose, Miya Masaoka, Bob Ostertag, and John Luther Adams.
  11:48am Listener Gregory:

Well, I was about to leave for a walk, and now "Dark is the Night" comes on. Oy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:49am doctorjazz:

Same here, LG.
  11:49am Listener Gregory:

BTW, I think we could bring together the entire country around the issue of totally eliminating Groundhog Day (the annual event, not the movie). What an annoying farce.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:49am WR:

Initial reaction was why place any version besides theme "the original" but quickly followed by, um, wow listen to this...
  11:50am Dean:

Oh, shoot, that's right. Today is James Joyce's birthday!
  11:50am Listener Gregory:

@Granny, one criticism I've read of "e" is that it sounds like "he" in actual speech, because the h in he is often barely there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am doctorjazz:

This Astroturf Noise crew are right in my sweet spot.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am doctorjazz:

Jeff! Cut it out!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53am doctorjazz:

(Never heard this Sweet Jane version)
  11:53am Listener Gregory:

Heading to my walk for sure now. Thanks a lot, Jëff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em):

@Dean: that movie looks amazing!

@Listener Gregory: that's true, some folx pronounce it "ey" but io like the elegance of the Spivak version, and i'd rather be called he than she. (and it's not because i'm not a feminist) <3
Avatar 11:54am fred:

@GST: You inspired me to use the singular they consistently at work. It went pretty well. Spivak pronouns are a bold step, probably would get in the way of being understood (an issue for me, as a non native speaker)
Avatar 11:55am Stork:

Sorry Fred - I don't the reference, though I saw Spinal Tap, natch.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am Doug Schulkind:

The Stork Club is up next, here on your 24-hour Drummer Stream!!

Stork's over here: wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em):

@fred: so cool! yeah, i can barely imagine the trickiness of unusual pronouns in French!
Avatar 11:56am fred:

@Stork: A metal umlaut is supposed to be over the "n" in Spinal
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am WR:

LOL, there is a contingency in New York who booed Lou Reed at every appearance I've heard, in person and bootleg, etc.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am Doug Schulkind:

Guac and roll?
Avatar 11:57am fred:

@GST: There's no such thing in French. I avoid writing in that language anyway
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am Granny Spicy Tuna (e/em):

WR: ha ha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am WR:

Ysy, guacamole, that is a team I can root for.
  12:06pm Ike:

Ka-boing ka-boing ka-boing
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