WFMU: Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 28, 2023

Listener comments!
	🤖 ♥ 6:00pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon Particles!
	🤖 ♥ 6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonadavers!
	🤖 ♥ 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all!
	♥ 6:02pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 ♥ 6:02pm Will thee Sound Guy: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:02pm David in London: Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:04pm Gregory Lopez: Hello Mark.
	🤖 ♥ 6:05pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends! Welcome to 𝕎𝔽𝕄𝕌 .
	♥ 6:05pm Ike: Compulsively using tech like me? Can't reduce your screen time? Consider: internetaddictsanonymous.org
	🤖 ♥ 6:06pm Franco Twinkie: This is so true! A very important part of life, is realizing you are going to die.
	♥ 6:06pm Mark Hurst: Hi everyone, thanks for joining!
	♥ 6:07pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:05 cool text style!
	🤖 ♥ 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: Someone is going to have to figure out my 2,000 passwords.
	♥ 6:08pm Mark Hurst: @Handy @ultra @Bas @chresti @Will @DiL @Gregory @Webham @Ike @Franco appreciate you being here for the start of the show.
	🤖 ♥ 6:09pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:07 The program known as "𝕋", formerly known as "Techtonic".
	🤖 ♥ 6:09pm Handy Haversack: Mark, with your indulgence, I just wanted to repost this, which I had put on other boards earlier: Listener friends, in case you haven't seen it, I wanted to share a GoFundMe for listener HyperDose, who's had some really terrible luck -- after a long run of health issues, he also had the townhouse he was moving into in Denver blow up, with his phone, wallet, keys all inside it. He doesn't have much of a support network except for the friends he made through WFMU, so sharing this campaign widely is his best shot for getting back on his feet: www.gofundme.com... Give if you can, but especially please share with your friends and networks and in any context where you think it might help. Thanks, Mark! I know, GFM puts a LOT of cookies on there. But Cookie Auto-Delete: Don't browse the web without it!
	🤖 ♥ 6:09pm ultradamno: I'll believe in death as soon as Charlie Daniels stops tweeting
	♥ 6:09pm chresti: In aging denial
	🤖 ♥ 6:09pm Bas NL: Just say it.. AI will have to prolong your life on social media..
	♥ 6:10pm chresti: Freeze yourself, like Walt
	6:11pm P-90: Charlie Daniels tweets?
	🤖 ♥ 6:11pm Folsom: You can be like the nutball Bryan Johnson trying to live forever.
	🤖 ♥ 6:11pm ultradamno: ↳ P-90 @6:11 Benghazi...never forget!
	🤖 ♥ 6:12pm Franco Twinkie: By and for young people. You have to be old to realize how repulsive that is.(spoken by a former young person who was as heedless and callow as the next self-obsessed fool)
	🤖 ♥ 6:12pm herb.nyc: I wonder. Do the young tech guys hire OLDER MEN in the exec or admin roles? Like, who was the old guy who helped google at the start? Ugh, sorry to hear about Hyperdose.
	♥ 6:13pm chresti: Ghost face book?
	🤖 ♥ 6:14pm ultradamno: The Steve Jobs hologram will fix it all www.vibe.com...
	🤖 ♥ 6:15pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and forever chemicals. Once you're dead and your credit card expires, they'll delete your accounts.
	♥ 6:21pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:15 that is great news
	♥ 6:23pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:09 Ditto Handy Haversack
	6:27pm morphe': Thanks Mark and all ... first time listening live with time differences, etc..
	🤖 ♥ 6:27pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Reagan NY ZEN RN @6:23 Hey, Reagan! Nice to see you after nine AM!
	♥ 6:28pm Mark Hurst: ↳ morphe' @6:27 thanks for listening live!
	♥ 6:29pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:27 Yeah. past my b time. worth every minute. amazing the family that FMU is. I love this show
	♥ 6:30pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Reagan NY ZEN RN @6:29 thanks for staying up late for Techtonic :)
	🤖 ♥ 6:30pm ultradamno: Both Diamond And Silk still post too....raising the question of a shared account where one of them is dead.
	♥ 6:31pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:09 the events of the life of HYPERDOSE need our attention. thanks for bringing it
	♥ 6:31pm chresti: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:15 Then the deceased's creditors hunt down their next of kin?
	6:32pm morphe': ps Old school take on death: Fond Farewells Jessica Mitford’s An American Way of Death took down an industry few people knew about, but that everyone would one day need." https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/death/fond-farewells
	🤖 ♥ 6:32pm MarciB: I'm especially interested in what Tamara has to say re: digital photo albums (being a photo manager myself). There's a company called Forever that says it will preserve your photos for 100 years...
	♥ 6:33pm chresti: Cutsy death angle!😺
	🤖 ♥ 6:33pm tim: Hi Mark and everyone! Fascinating interview tonight!
	♥ 6:35pm Mark Hurst: ↳ morphe' @6:32 Great pointer, morphe', thanks. I see now that the entire Fall 2013 issue of Lapham's Quarterly had a theme of death. Stories here: www.laphamsquarterly.org...
	🤖 ♥ 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: Someone is going to have to unsusbscribe my ghost from a zillion lists and autopays.
	♥ 6:36pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:32 Good question. I'd ask whether Forever can prove that they have 100 years of expenses (inflation-adjusted) in escrow already today. That would be the first requirement, I think, to begin to believe their claim.
	♥ 6:36pm Mark Hurst: ↳ tim @6:33 Thanks, Tim
	🤖 ♥ 6:37pm ultradamno: YIKES! Dead grandmother voice telling bedtime stories is the most perfect springboard for a horror movie I've ever heard
	♥ 6:37pm chresti: ew creepy!
	🤖 ♥ 6:37pm MarciB: @Mark they have a foundation, apparently. I don't like their business model (it's a MLM). Permanent.org is interesting to me, am sitting in on a call with them this week.
	🤖 ♥ 6:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: We can set up ChatGPT bots that can make social media or comments board messages after we're gone.
	🤖 ♥ 6:38pm Franco Twinkie: A normal part of life use to be transitioning out of your parents house into a group living situation - college dormitory or communal living in a spacious old house. Sooner or later that ends and people find themselves living on their own. That's when the dull thump of adulthood makes you realize that you are potentially alone. Then people die and you have to step up to the plate and sort out the junk pile of someone else's life. At that point you start thinking about death in a serious way.
	♥ 6:38pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:37 eeek gaaads
	🤖 ♥ 6:39pm MarciB: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:38 Yes indeed - hence the rise of Swedish Death Cleaning
	♥ 6:40pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:39 Good one. Story on Swedish death cleaning, from 2017: www.nbcnews.com...
	🤖 ♥ 6:41pm ultradamno: "While AI can't eliminate that pain of loss, it can definitely make their memories last" www.vibe.com...
	🤖 ♥ 6:45pm Ken From Hyde Park: I would guess a person could specify in their will a list of accounts that they want their executor to shut down.
	🤖 ♥ 6:46pm MarciB: I'll be reading this and recommending it!
	6:46pm wind: Great death interview
	🤖 ♥ 6:46pm Handy Haversack: "Techtonic: As fun as death can be"!
	🤖 ♥ 6:46pm MarciB: I'll be reading this and recommending it to my colleagues.
	6:46pm morphe': Tamara sounds like the best carpenters ... they do amazing work in other folks' houses and yet their own house is a disaster *.... me too .. I help others and live in hovels... Thanks Tamara and Mark... * Think such a syndrome is in the DSM
	6:46pm markoliner: Here's one : getyourshittogether.org
	🤖 ♥ 6:46pm Bas NL: Great interview. Stuff to give thought to.
	♥ 6:48pm chresti: Thanks Mark and Tamara!
	🤖 ♥ 6:48pm ultradamno: Could you use the Amazon sound tube with grandma's voice as a ouija board pointer?
	♥ 6:50pm coelacanth∅: it doesn't matter what's legal. just make a list of your sites/accounts, including passwords, answers to verification answers etc. hide it in a fire/flood proof place in your dwelling. write the hiding place down in a sealed envelope and give that to your designated executor of estate.
	6:52pm wind: Nothing is forever
	♥ 6:52pm coelacanth∅: oh, i just looked...i thought you said "Tamar Anise"!
	6:53pm Jackie G: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:50 like a will?
	6:53pm Jackie G: ↳ wind @6:52 and vice versa
	♥ 6:54pm coelacanth∅: preferably along with a will.
	🤖 ♥ 6:54pm chris in the redwoods: mrs. citr and i have been talking about estate planning and digital estate planning recently. adding this to the to do list. thanks, Mark and Dr. Kneese! (also not to self to curate hilarious porn collection for everyone to chuckle about.)
	🤖 ♥ 6:55pm Handy Haversack: We know paper can have a 100 percent information retention over 500 years if treated well. What we don't seem to be good at knowing is what the point of preserving photos is. I guess we haven't had them very long, but the task of sorting the "save forever and keep" compared to the "I take a million photos all the time because the device lets me do it" seems like a lot more than most folks will ever make time for. I think it's a good thing to let all this go. But then, I have neither kids nor social media. Thanks, Mark! Thanks, Tamara! Thanks, kindly death!
	6:55pm morphe': ↳ wind @6:52 Mutability by Percy Bysshe Shelley "... Nought may endure but Mutability." https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54563/mutability-we-are-as-clouds-that-veil-the-midnight-moon
	6:55pm joe_rosevear: OK, so don't put your precious memories on a network somewhere. Put them on a flashdrive!
	♥ 6:55pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Jackie G @6:53 most people i've known who've died supposedly made a will but it was never found.
	🤖 ♥ 6:55pm chris in the redwoods: *note to self ;)
	🤖 ♥ 6:55pm Webhamster Henry: You could get digital records to last 100 years if you turn them into modem chirps and press the audio on 78s - the only medium proven to last 100 yers.
	🤖 ♥ 6:56pm Handy Haversack: ↳ chris in the redwoods @6:55 "Not to Self: My Hilarious Porn Collection": there's your folder name!
	♥ 6:56pm Jeff Moore: There are a few services you can use to make paper books of your photos. I've seen a few decent ones produced using Blurb: www.blurb.com
	🤖 ♥ 6:57pm Mennlinn Rebarts: This Lorn video is a banger, and quite germane to the topic. www.youtube.com...
	🤖 ♥ 6:57pm ultradamno: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:56 I think the AVN awards have a comedy category
	🤖 ♥ 6:57pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:56 done and done.
	6:57pm Jackie G: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:55 Supposed to make a copy for your mate, son, daughter ... keep your loved ones in the loop
	♥ 6:57pm SeaCreature: Yet another “uplifting” yet useful episode.well done
	6:57pm P-90: Thanks, Mark
	6:57pm morphe': A Wanker's Photos of 2 tacos from a chain Rest must be saved for more than 100 years...
	6:58pm wind: Whatever happened to passing in memories through oral history?
	🤖 ♥ 6:58pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks all!
	♥ 6:58pm Jeff Moore: For better digital-photo reproduction, print them on good digital photo paper (cotton rag based or at least acid-free) with a photo printer using pigments at least likely to be archival.
	6:58pm morphe': Thanks Mark and all !!!
	🤖 ♥ 6:58pm Niall: ↳ Song: "Feelings on a Screen" by "Bochum Welt" Hello, old friend.
	🤖 ♥ 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: What I think I need is a web crawler that can collect my comments and print out books that will be handed out at my funeral. Thanks, Mark & Tamara!
	🤖 ♥ 6:59pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "Feelings on a Screen" by "Bochum Welt" Reminds me of the Chucky line "you think you can scare me? I'M FROM JERSEY"
	🤖 ♥ 6:59pm Niall: ↳ morphe' @6:57 Ha!
	6:59pm morphe': ↳ Niall @6:58 Niall - Brandon 7 Sept ...
	🤖 ♥ 6:59pm Niall: ↳ morphe' @6:59 See you then!
	♥ 7:00pm coelacanth∅: i'm okay with my photos disappearing with me.
	🤖 ♥ 7:00pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:59 ..."you think I'm scared OF HELL, I'm from Jersey" rather
	♥ 7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	♥ 7:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark! Thanks Tamara (who i only heard 5 minutes of)!
	🤖 ♥ 7:01pm Franco Twinkie: Jolly time had by al! Thanks Mark.
	🤖 ♥ 7:02pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Mark and Tamara!!!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 28, 2023

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August 28, 2023: Tamara Kneese, author of "Death Glitch"

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Today: Tamara Kneese, author, "Death Glitch"

• Death Glitch: How Techno-Solutionism Fails Us in This Life and Beyond, by Tamara Kneese

• Megan Yip, digital estate planning attorney recommended by Tamara

• Your Digital Estate Consumer Guide (see “Download File” link on this page)

• August 17, 2020 Techtonic with Elaine Kasket, author, “All the Ghosts in the Machine” - on the afterlife of data

• Death: A Literary Guide (by Ted Gioia, June 6, 2023) recommends several books as a “literary reading list for death.” I’d add War and Peace.

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Listener comments!
	🤖 ♥ 6:00pm Handy Haversack: Mark! Techyon Particles!
	🤖 ♥ 6:00pm ultradamno: Mark! Techtonadavers!
	🤖 ♥ 6:01pm Bas NL: Hi Mark! Hi all!
	♥ 6:02pm chresti: Hi Mark and techtonicians!
	🤖 ♥ 6:02pm Will thee Sound Guy: Good evening Mark Hurst and all!!!
	6:02pm David in London: Evening Mark and all Technoids.
	6:04pm Gregory Lopez: Hello Mark.
	🤖 ♥ 6:05pm Webhamster Henry: Hi Friends! Welcome to 𝕎𝔽𝕄𝕌 .
	♥ 6:05pm Ike: Compulsively using tech like me? Can't reduce your screen time? Consider: internetaddictsanonymous.org
	🤖 ♥ 6:06pm Franco Twinkie: This is so true! A very important part of life, is realizing you are going to die.
	♥ 6:06pm Mark Hurst: Hi everyone, thanks for joining!
	♥ 6:07pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Webhamster Henry @6:05 cool text style!
	🤖 ♥ 6:08pm Webhamster Henry: Someone is going to have to figure out my 2,000 passwords.
	♥ 6:08pm Mark Hurst: @Handy @ultra @Bas @chresti @Will @DiL @Gregory @Webham @Ike @Franco appreciate you being here for the start of the show.
	🤖 ♥ 6:09pm Webhamster Henry: ↳ Mark Hurst @6:07 The program known as "𝕋", formerly known as "Techtonic".
	🤖 ♥ 6:09pm Handy Haversack: Mark, with your indulgence, I just wanted to repost this, which I had put on other boards earlier: Listener friends, in case you haven't seen it, I wanted to share a GoFundMe for listener HyperDose, who's had some really terrible luck -- after a long run of health issues, he also had the townhouse he was moving into in Denver blow up, with his phone, wallet, keys all inside it. He doesn't have much of a support network except for the friends he made through WFMU, so sharing this campaign widely is his best shot for getting back on his feet: www.gofundme.com... Give if you can, but especially please share with your friends and networks and in any context where you think it might help. Thanks, Mark! I know, GFM puts a LOT of cookies on there. But Cookie Auto-Delete: Don't browse the web without it!
	🤖 ♥ 6:09pm ultradamno: I'll believe in death as soon as Charlie Daniels stops tweeting
	♥ 6:09pm chresti: In aging denial
	🤖 ♥ 6:09pm Bas NL: Just say it.. AI will have to prolong your life on social media..
	♥ 6:10pm chresti: Freeze yourself, like Walt
	6:11pm P-90: Charlie Daniels tweets?
	🤖 ♥ 6:11pm Folsom: You can be like the nutball Bryan Johnson trying to live forever.
	🤖 ♥ 6:11pm ultradamno: ↳ P-90 @6:11 Benghazi...never forget!
	🤖 ♥ 6:12pm Franco Twinkie: By and for young people. You have to be old to realize how repulsive that is.(spoken by a former young person who was as heedless and callow as the next self-obsessed fool)
	🤖 ♥ 6:12pm herb.nyc: I wonder. Do the young tech guys hire OLDER MEN in the exec or admin roles? Like, who was the old guy who helped google at the start? Ugh, sorry to hear about Hyperdose.
	♥ 6:13pm chresti: Ghost face book?
	🤖 ♥ 6:14pm ultradamno: The Steve Jobs hologram will fix it all www.vibe.com...
	🤖 ♥ 6:15pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, Mark and forever chemicals. Once you're dead and your credit card expires, they'll delete your accounts.
	♥ 6:21pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:15 that is great news
	♥ 6:23pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:09 Ditto Handy Haversack
	6:27pm morphe': Thanks Mark and all ... first time listening live with time differences, etc..
	🤖 ♥ 6:27pm Handy Haversack: ↳ Reagan NY ZEN RN @6:23 Hey, Reagan! Nice to see you after nine AM!
	♥ 6:28pm Mark Hurst: ↳ morphe' @6:27 thanks for listening live!
	♥ 6:29pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:27 Yeah. past my b time. worth every minute. amazing the family that FMU is. I love this show
	♥ 6:30pm Mark Hurst: ↳ Reagan NY ZEN RN @6:29 thanks for staying up late for Techtonic :)
	🤖 ♥ 6:30pm ultradamno: Both Diamond And Silk still post too....raising the question of a shared account where one of them is dead.
	♥ 6:31pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:09 the events of the life of HYPERDOSE need our attention. thanks for bringing it
	♥ 6:31pm chresti: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:15 Then the deceased's creditors hunt down their next of kin?
	6:32pm morphe': ps Old school take on death: Fond Farewells Jessica Mitford’s An American Way of Death took down an industry few people knew about, but that everyone would one day need." https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/death/fond-farewells
	🤖 ♥ 6:32pm MarciB: I'm especially interested in what Tamara has to say re: digital photo albums (being a photo manager myself). There's a company called Forever that says it will preserve your photos for 100 years...
	♥ 6:33pm chresti: Cutsy death angle!😺
	🤖 ♥ 6:33pm tim: Hi Mark and everyone! Fascinating interview tonight!
	♥ 6:35pm Mark Hurst: ↳ morphe' @6:32 Great pointer, morphe', thanks. I see now that the entire Fall 2013 issue of Lapham's Quarterly had a theme of death. Stories here: www.laphamsquarterly.org...
	🤖 ♥ 6:35pm Webhamster Henry: Someone is going to have to unsusbscribe my ghost from a zillion lists and autopays.
	♥ 6:36pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:32 Good question. I'd ask whether Forever can prove that they have 100 years of expenses (inflation-adjusted) in escrow already today. That would be the first requirement, I think, to begin to believe their claim.
	♥ 6:36pm Mark Hurst: ↳ tim @6:33 Thanks, Tim
	🤖 ♥ 6:37pm ultradamno: YIKES! Dead grandmother voice telling bedtime stories is the most perfect springboard for a horror movie I've ever heard
	♥ 6:37pm chresti: ew creepy!
	🤖 ♥ 6:37pm MarciB: @Mark they have a foundation, apparently. I don't like their business model (it's a MLM). Permanent.org is interesting to me, am sitting in on a call with them this week.
	🤖 ♥ 6:37pm Ken From Hyde Park: We can set up ChatGPT bots that can make social media or comments board messages after we're gone.
	🤖 ♥ 6:38pm Franco Twinkie: A normal part of life use to be transitioning out of your parents house into a group living situation - college dormitory or communal living in a spacious old house. Sooner or later that ends and people find themselves living on their own. That's when the dull thump of adulthood makes you realize that you are potentially alone. Then people die and you have to step up to the plate and sort out the junk pile of someone else's life. At that point you start thinking about death in a serious way.
	♥ 6:38pm Reagan NY ZEN RN: ↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:37 eeek gaaads
	🤖 ♥ 6:39pm MarciB: ↳ Franco Twinkie @6:38 Yes indeed - hence the rise of Swedish Death Cleaning
	♥ 6:40pm Mark Hurst: ↳ MarciB @6:39 Good one. Story on Swedish death cleaning, from 2017: www.nbcnews.com...
	🤖 ♥ 6:41pm ultradamno: "While AI can't eliminate that pain of loss, it can definitely make their memories last" www.vibe.com...
	🤖 ♥ 6:45pm Ken From Hyde Park: I would guess a person could specify in their will a list of accounts that they want their executor to shut down.
	🤖 ♥ 6:46pm MarciB: I'll be reading this and recommending it!
	6:46pm wind: Great death interview
	🤖 ♥ 6:46pm Handy Haversack: "Techtonic: As fun as death can be"!
	🤖 ♥ 6:46pm MarciB: I'll be reading this and recommending it to my colleagues.
	6:46pm morphe': Tamara sounds like the best carpenters ... they do amazing work in other folks' houses and yet their own house is a disaster *.... me too .. I help others and live in hovels... Thanks Tamara and Mark... * Think such a syndrome is in the DSM
	6:46pm markoliner: Here's one : getyourshittogether.org
	🤖 ♥ 6:46pm Bas NL: Great interview. Stuff to give thought to.
	♥ 6:48pm chresti: Thanks Mark and Tamara!
	🤖 ♥ 6:48pm ultradamno: Could you use the Amazon sound tube with grandma's voice as a ouija board pointer?
	♥ 6:50pm coelacanth∅: it doesn't matter what's legal. just make a list of your sites/accounts, including passwords, answers to verification answers etc. hide it in a fire/flood proof place in your dwelling. write the hiding place down in a sealed envelope and give that to your designated executor of estate.
	6:52pm wind: Nothing is forever
	♥ 6:52pm coelacanth∅: oh, i just looked...i thought you said "Tamar Anise"!
	6:53pm Jackie G: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:50 like a will?
	6:53pm Jackie G: ↳ wind @6:52 and vice versa
	♥ 6:54pm coelacanth∅: preferably along with a will.
	🤖 ♥ 6:54pm chris in the redwoods: mrs. citr and i have been talking about estate planning and digital estate planning recently. adding this to the to do list. thanks, Mark and Dr. Kneese! (also not to self to curate hilarious porn collection for everyone to chuckle about.)
	🤖 ♥ 6:55pm Handy Haversack: We know paper can have a 100 percent information retention over 500 years if treated well. What we don't seem to be good at knowing is what the point of preserving photos is. I guess we haven't had them very long, but the task of sorting the "save forever and keep" compared to the "I take a million photos all the time because the device lets me do it" seems like a lot more than most folks will ever make time for. I think it's a good thing to let all this go. But then, I have neither kids nor social media. Thanks, Mark! Thanks, Tamara! Thanks, kindly death!
	6:55pm morphe': ↳ wind @6:52 Mutability by Percy Bysshe Shelley "... Nought may endure but Mutability." https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54563/mutability-we-are-as-clouds-that-veil-the-midnight-moon
	6:55pm joe_rosevear: OK, so don't put your precious memories on a network somewhere. Put them on a flashdrive!
	♥ 6:55pm coelacanth∅: ↳ Jackie G @6:53 most people i've known who've died supposedly made a will but it was never found.
	🤖 ♥ 6:55pm chris in the redwoods: *note to self ;)
	🤖 ♥ 6:55pm Webhamster Henry: You could get digital records to last 100 years if you turn them into modem chirps and press the audio on 78s - the only medium proven to last 100 yers.
	🤖 ♥ 6:56pm Handy Haversack: ↳ chris in the redwoods @6:55 "Not to Self: My Hilarious Porn Collection": there's your folder name!
	♥ 6:56pm Jeff Moore: There are a few services you can use to make paper books of your photos. I've seen a few decent ones produced using Blurb: www.blurb.com
	🤖 ♥ 6:57pm Mennlinn Rebarts: This Lorn video is a banger, and quite germane to the topic. www.youtube.com...
	🤖 ♥ 6:57pm ultradamno: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:56 I think the AVN awards have a comedy category
	🤖 ♥ 6:57pm chris in the redwoods: ↳ Handy Haversack @6:56 done and done.
	6:57pm Jackie G: ↳ coelacanth∅ @6:55 Supposed to make a copy for your mate, son, daughter ... keep your loved ones in the loop
	♥ 6:57pm SeaCreature: Yet another “uplifting” yet useful episode.well done
	6:57pm P-90: Thanks, Mark
	6:57pm morphe': A Wanker's Photos of 2 tacos from a chain Rest must be saved for more than 100 years...
	6:58pm wind: Whatever happened to passing in memories through oral history?
	🤖 ♥ 6:58pm Bas NL: Thanks Mark! Thanks all!
	♥ 6:58pm Jeff Moore: For better digital-photo reproduction, print them on good digital photo paper (cotton rag based or at least acid-free) with a photo printer using pigments at least likely to be archival.
	6:58pm morphe': Thanks Mark and all !!!
	🤖 ♥ 6:58pm Niall: ↳ Song: "Feelings on a Screen" by "Bochum Welt" Hello, old friend.
	🤖 ♥ 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park: What I think I need is a web crawler that can collect my comments and print out books that will be handed out at my funeral. Thanks, Mark & Tamara!
	🤖 ♥ 6:59pm ultradamno: ↳ Song: "Feelings on a Screen" by "Bochum Welt" Reminds me of the Chucky line "you think you can scare me? I'M FROM JERSEY"
	🤖 ♥ 6:59pm Niall: ↳ morphe' @6:57 Ha!
	6:59pm morphe': ↳ Niall @6:58 Niall - Brandon 7 Sept ...
	🤖 ♥ 6:59pm Niall: ↳ morphe' @6:59 See you then!
	♥ 7:00pm coelacanth∅: i'm okay with my photos disappearing with me.
	🤖 ♥ 7:00pm ultradamno: ↳ ultradamno @6:59 ..."you think I'm scared OF HELL, I'm from Jersey" rather
	♥ 7:00pm Mark Hurst: Thanks, everyone!
	♥ 7:00pm coelacanth∅: Thanks Mark! Thanks Tamara (who i only heard 5 minutes of)!
	🤖 ♥ 7:01pm Franco Twinkie: Jolly time had by al! Thanks Mark.
	🤖 ♥ 7:02pm Will thee Sound Guy: Thank you Mark and Tamara!!!

Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 28, 2023

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