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Three hours of adventurous jazz drawing on the Destination: Out archives and other planes of there.

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Artist Track Album Label Year Comments Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble  Tatas-Matoes   Options Congliptious  Nessa  1968    0:00:00 (MP3 | )
 
Music behind DJ:
Sun Ra 
The Perfect Man   Options My Brother The Wind, Vol. I  Saturn Research   1970    0:02:29 (MP3 | )
Keith Tippett  August Air   Options 1992.05 - Queen Elizabeth Hall, London  [no label]  1992    0:06:21 (MP3 | )
The Attic  Aimless at the Beach   Options Summer Bummer  NoBusiness Records  2019    0:46:31 (MP3 | )
 
Music behind DJ:
Dick Khoza 
Lilongwe   Options         1:02:45 (MP3 | )
Charlie Haden  Out of Focus   Options The Golden Number  Horizon  1976  w Don Cherry  1:09:00 (MP3 | )
Henry Threadgill Sextett  Sweet Holy Rag   Options Rag, Bush and All  Novus  1989    1:15:49 (MP3 | )
Codona  New Light   Options Codona  ECM  1979    1:29:06 (MP3 | )
Steely Dan  My Old School   Options Countdown to Ecstasy  ABC Records  1973    1:42:42 (MP3 | )
Augustus Pablo & the Upsetter  Vibrate Onn   Options b/w "Dub Onn"  Black Art  1977    1:48:43 (MP3 | )
Israel Vibration  I'll Go Through   Options The Same Song  Top Ranking  1978    1:52:56 (MP3 | )
Keith Hudson & Augustus Pablo  Fat Baby   Options b-side to "Fight On Fight On"  Mafia  1972    1:57:04 (MP3 | )
Drosselbart  An einem Tag im August   Options b/w "O'Driscoll"  Polydor  1971    1:59:43 (MP3 | )
Crystalized Movements  August Arising   Options Revelations from Pandemonium  Twisted Village  1992    2:02:54 (MP3 | )
Mary Halvorson & Jessica Pavone  One Day in August   Options Prairies  Lucky Kitchen  2005    2:05:15 (MP3 | )
 
Music behind DJ:
Booker T. & The MGs 
Melting Pot   Options         2:09:02 (MP3 | )
Matt Bauder & Day in Pictures  August and Counting   Options Nightshades  Clean Feed  2014    2:16:11 (MP3 | )
The Claudia Quintet  August 5th, 2006 (For Kate Schroeder and Family)   Options For  Cuneiform  2007    2:23:08 (MP3 | )
Rahsaan Roland Kirk   Lonesome August Child   Options Reeds & Deeds  Mercury  1963    2:32:44 (MP3 | )
Giovanni Guidi  15th of August   Options Avec le Temps  ECM  2019    2:37:50 (MP3 | )
Ernest Hood  August Haze   Options Neighborhoods  Thistlefield Records  1975    2:43:57 (MP3 | )
Talking Heads  This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody)   Options Speaking in Tongues  Sire  1983    2:52:03 (MP3 | )
 
Music behind DJ:
Dudu Pukwana & Spear 
Flute Music   Options Flute Music  Caroline  1975    2:56:50 (MP3 | )

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:01am fred:

Good morning Jeff and those headed out. Though I'm staying in for the next three hours
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:01am hyde:

hello!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:01am Jeff Golick:

Yay, @fred!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:02am listener james from westwood:

Morning, Jeff and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:02am Jeff Golick:

Hey there, @hyde!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:03am Jeff Golick:

@listener james! Good morning to you, sir.
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:06am Freaky Tiki:

Morning, y'all! Rare moment when I can listen live.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:08am Jeff Golick:

Heyo, @Freaky Tiki!
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:10am duke:

Good morning Jeff and D:Oers
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:11am Jeff Golick:

Greetings, @duke!
  Sun. 8/11/19 9:12am Doug Schulkind:

Full-throated hellooooo from Lobsterland!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:13am Jeff Golick:

Now that your throat is butter-coated, it's probably all the easier to bellow like that. Hi, @Doug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:18am Jeff Golick:

Scheduling note: I've seen Halloween displays in stores already.
  Sun. 8/11/19 9:22am Doug Schulkind:

With last night’s lobster boil, I said “I think I’ll go without butter this time,” aiming for a more healthful approach. It turns out I have bad aim.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:23am listener james from westwood:

Butterfingers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:23am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Doug, i can hear you from Tel Aviv. Hello, everyone!
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:24am Freaky Tiki:

As a teacher, I've always found the back to school displays more spooky.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:24am Jeff Golick:

@Granny Spicy Tuna! Shalom.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:25am Jeff Golick:

@Freaky: understandable.
  Sun. 8/11/19 9:25am John in England:

What has happened to the destination-out.com website?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:26am Jeff Golick:

Hi, @John in England. It's offline due to some server difficulty. We're working on getting it reinstated.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:26am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Shalom, Jeff. No lobster here, but the streets are paved with gluten and shakshuka.
  Sun. 8/11/19 9:27am Doug Schulkind:

Next year in Jerusalem, GST!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:27am Jeff Golick:

What is "shakshuka?"
  Sun. 8/11/19 9:28am John in England:

Glad to hear that. Thanks for the update.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:29am Jeff Golick:

Sure. Glad you're still interested!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:31am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Jeff: shakshuka is a tasty dish of eggs poached in a peppery tomato sauce. I am doing an investigation of the many shakshuka offerings here. I plan to spend my 50th birthday (Tuesday) in Jerusalem.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:31am Uncle Michael:

I thiught the streets were paved with halvah. Thats what that stuff is for,right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:31am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

UM: it's the buildings that are made of halva
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:32am Jeff Golick:

@UM! I love me some marble halvah. Which is why I am now the size of a building.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:33am Stanley:

Hi Jazz Cats
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:34am Jeff Golick:

Speaking of cool cats, here's @Stanley!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:34am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

i wish i had some huge speakers to blast this through. wow.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:34am Uncle Michael:

I'm convinced halvah is why my grandmother is dead...that or the fact that she was born 100 years ago.
  Sun. 8/11/19 9:35am Doug Schulkind:

I made a shakshuka for the family last week. Eggs for dinner is a simple delight. Especially the same mole part.
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:36am holland oats:

yo d:o! peeps!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:37am Jeff Golick:

Huh. My grandmother, too, gave me my first taste of halvah. She is also dead. Coincidence???
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:37am Jeff Golick:

What is up, @holland oats!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:38am Jeff Golick:

What is the opposite of a "foodie?" That is what I am.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:38am Jeff Golick:

"Garbage eater?"
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:38am hyde:

man, i loovvvvvvv shaksuka
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:40am Sem:

Hello, Jeff, and greetings Sunday Jazz-O'philes.
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:41am hyde:

the opposite of foodie is people like a friend i have who seems to basically just think eating is a pain and might happily exist on nothing but soylent or the like
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:41am Jeff Golick:

Hi, @Sem! Great to see you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:41am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

hyde: that is why i am going to Jerusalem for my birthday. My pilgrimage is to go to Tmol Shilshom where i ate my first (and so far favorite) shakshuka.
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 9:42am hyde:

@GSt that sounds super cool.
  Sun. 8/11/19 9:44am Doug Schulkind:

Share the recipe if you can, Granny.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:45am Jeff Golick:

@hyde: I'm not quite as bad as your friend, but I do find that my inherent laziness tends to outweigh my desire to eat something good.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:45am fred:

@hyde@9:41: that's pretty close to my outlook. Except I'd go with Guinness instead of soylent. And probably still go for the occasional onigiri run
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:46am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

I just looked at theTmol Shilshom calendar and it looks like they've lined up kpouz player Gilad Weiss to play for my birthday. Now i'm even MORE excited.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:49am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Doug: i think all shakshuka practitioners guard their recipes ferociously. But i'll send you mine (lots of tomato paste and harissa)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 9:56am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

and i totally meant kopuz, not kpouz
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:04am doctorjazz:

Hey all!
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 10:06am alanr:

thank you giving me such a powerful and soulful background (or perhaps foreground), while I clean my apartment in Brooklyn.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:07am fred:

@GST: Is the kopuz related to the Kyrgyz komuz? A quick google search says it might be, but I've trained it too well from home, so my results are very skewed
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:08am listener james from westwood:

Holy shit, Stork!
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 10:08am holland oats:

WOOT!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:08am listener james from westwood:

AGES ago I mused about Stork as a glorious GTDR candidate, so I feel prophetic.
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 10:09am hyde:

oooh, cool. i heard a Wayne Shorter tune on WHRB the other day and was thinking about how good he is
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:11am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

fred: i think so, however i must admit some ignorance in that department
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:12am Jeff Golick:

@alanr! My absolute pleasure. What's this "cleaning" you speak of?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:13am fred:

@GST: It doesn't matter anyway. Enjoy your birthday, the show, and the shakshuka (never had that, looks tasty)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:14am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

fred: thanks! i am sure it will be enjoyable, whatever it is
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:16am Jeff Golick:

Are there two more innately musical people than Don Cherry and Charlie Haden?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:17am fleep:

Greetings, humans!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:18am Linda Lee:

what amazing sounds for this beautiful morning! thanks Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:19am Jeff Golick:

Swimming in on a wing and a fin, it's @fleep!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:20am Jeff Golick:

Hi, @Linda Lee! Aw, you're welcome and thanks for being here!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:21am Linda Lee:

pleasure! usually feel a bit bereft first thing 'til i hear the right sounds, so you're the savior today. :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:21am doctorjazz:

Ahhh, the Sextette, fabulous band!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:22am Jeff Golick:

Belated greets, @doctorjazz! I did see you up there earlier...
Easily one of the best bands of the 1980s.
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 10:26am hyde:

yeah, this is a great record
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:27am doctorjazz:

Never developed a taste for shakshuka, do like half a (my mom loved it). Just a falafel, schnitzel kind of guy.
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 10:28am alanr:

@jeff golick: sweeping and mopping floors, scrubbing the bathtub and toilet, kitchen surfaces.....all the normal things about cleaning. No metaphors. Just weekly work. LOL
work. LOL
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:29am Linda Lee:

how awful, alanr! :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:31am doctorjazz:

Do like halva,that should have read...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:33am doctorjazz:

I'd love to visit Tel Aviv and Jerusalem again, been a long time (my younger daughter is going out seriously with an Israeli expat, so who knows...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:35am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

yep, about 15 years ago i got mixed up with an Israeli expat sweeter than halva… and now look where i am! :)

and this track is filling me with joy
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 10:36am hyde:

hmmm, i was just listening to Colin Walcott the other day too.was digging it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:36am doctorjazz:

Been to see 2 older jazz guys the last 2 weeks...Abdullah Ibrahim with Ekaya, and last night Eddie Palmieri. They are both in their 80s. You can tell they are older, but they both put pin great shows! So glad I caught them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:37am doctorjazz:

Codona is another of those amazing bands!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:38am Jeff Golick:

Two great shows, @doc!
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 10:38am hyde:

@doc that's awesome.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:43am doctorjazz:

Benny Carter holds the record for the oldest jazz musician I've seen that I wasn't sad I went to see him. He was making fabulous music into his 90s, used to catch him often at The West End. (And he was really sweet as well. I was looking at some Fake Books someone was selling outside of the club, and he came up to me and had an encouraging conversation with me. Not that I was a serious musician, but he waa so nice).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:44am doctorjazz:

Ahhh,for to the Dan as well, good hubby!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:45am Linda Lee:

that's a lovely story about Mr Carter, doc. generosity all around.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:46am Linda Lee:

the truly great are *generous*.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:46am doctorjazz:

I came to those early albums for the lyrics and tunes,but stayed for the guitar.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:47am Jeff Golick:

Agreed, @LL.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:48am Linda Lee:

that might be because there's humility. what they carry is so great they know it's not theirs to keep.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:49am doctorjazz:

Ok,donned my Woof Moo T shirt, time to walk the pooches.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:50am Jeff Golick:

Happy walking @doc, and doggos!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:50am doctorjazz:

I don't know, Carter was just such a gentleman in every way. You could feel it from the stage, and he was very sweet and friendly.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:50am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

LL: i'll third that sentiment. so true.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:51am Jeff Golick:

Time for another round of "which Jeff is this."
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:53am Linda Lee:

humility & brilliance. the gifts hand in hand. very cool to witness it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:54am Linda Lee:

makes artists who place themselves above their audience look darn foolish.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:55am Linda Lee:

especially because your art takes both. without the audience, what have you got?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:55am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

LL: sing it, sister!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 10:56am Linda Lee:

am i right? :-)
glad you're having a fine time, Granny!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:00am Linda Lee:

here's one: what's non-binary for 'sister'? cousin? honey bun? :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:02am Linda Lee:

oh! 'an einem im august' isn't Tim Curry doing 'locomotive breath'!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:03am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

thanks, Linda Lee— it's fun to play with words— i like sxter, personally. Just throw an x into the word and it's neutral!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:03am Linda Lee:

cool! :-D :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:03am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

cousin is one of my favorite word to share with kindred spirits, too <3
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:04am Linda Lee:

i like it too, cuz! :-D also find 'cuz' funny.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:05am Linda Lee:

jus' cuz.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:06am fred:

Is sibling binary?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:06am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

right on, cuz!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:06am Linda Lee:

don't think so, fred.
  Sun. 8/11/19 11:06am Doug Schulkind:

Just back from a 2-mile walk along the waterfront. Dog ate many clams along the way. Ran into a 110-pound chocolate lab named Hershey who our pup played with three years ago. Good times!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:07am Linda Lee:

'my cousin in san francisco'. i like that. ;-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:07am Linda Lee:

hi Doug! which waterfront might that be?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:07am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

sibling is neutral, and one that i fold into my ceremonies and oblations
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:08am Jeff Golick:

Clam dog! One-ten is a big ol' lab.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:09am Linda Lee:

what thrills me, still, is the concept of intentional family. love it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:10am Brian in UK:

Hello Jeff and someday folk.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:10am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Linda Lee: once again, i am with you there, cuz! <3 Ain't got much bio family these days, but i have a gorgeous, widespread family of choice
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:11am listener james from westwood:

@Doug, that is peak vacationing right there.
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 11:11am northguineahills:

I'm here and there....
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:12am fred:

I think French is far more gendered than English. You wouldn't have a way out with "cousin", it would be a "cousin/cousine" choise. Then again, we assign gender to everything, so maybe it's been overused into meaninglessness. (Sadly, no)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:13am Linda Lee:

love it!! :-)
i don't have much bio family either. how nice to consider that potential. in isolation, as i tend to feel now, it's a real lifesaver. but! that means you have to be in a place where you can find your new family. so i should come down out of the mountains!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:14am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

fred: Lantinx folx have been playing with the similarly-gendered Spanish for years and coming up with some creative solutions. My sweetie tells me that Hebrew is even more intensely gendered than French and Spanish.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:14am Linda Lee:

oh gosh, as far as gendered language go, yes, english is *far* more forgiving.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:15am Linda Lee:

gosh, Granny, how is that possible??
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:15am doctorjazz:

I read that Threadgill called it a Sextette (in an interview) because he counted the 2 drums as 1. FWIW.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:16am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

i've seen a non-binary Spanish speaker identify as Lantin@ (in text, at least—how would you pronounce that?)
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 11:16am hyde:

man, now i want a clam dog
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:17am Linda Lee:

there's the kick.. how do ya say these things?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:17am fred:

@GST: We have something called inclusive writing here where the "cousin" example would be "cousin.e", plural "cousin.e.s". Problem here too is how do you pronounce that?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:17am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Linda Lee: apparently in Hebrew the entire grammatic structure is different depending on if you're talking to a male or a female. But we recently met a gender activist who is a native Hebrew speaker, so we're going to find out how to wrangle that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:17am Linda Lee:

ho ma gosh!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:18am Linda Lee:

how do non-binary people tangle with that one?
constantly, i'd' guess.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:19am Linda Lee:

the fact that there's so much written that we haven't agreed on, in terms of pronunciation .. points to the fact that we're all online too much :-D
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:19am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

i encourage people to approach it playfully, or we'll all get so frustrated we'll give up (this goes for just about everything in life)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:20am Linda Lee:

yes. beautiful.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:20am Jeff Golick:

Big hellos to @Brian in UK and @northguineahills! I see you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:20am Linda Lee:

was just listening to Alan Watts on the subject of play. dead on!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:21am Linda Lee:

poor man was apparently tormented ~ but still brilliant.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:21am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

i mean, doesn't this track sound playful? isn't that part of why it's so enjoyable?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:22am Linda Lee:

what we have in play is *potential*. that's what keeps us involved in it, yes?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:24am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

a wise teacher encouraged folx to listen to our imaginations with "joke mind." The open-minded, "ok, and then what?" that allows us to enjoy a good joke.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:24am doctorjazz:

Love this Bauder and crew (he taps as the dogs wind around his legs and leave him hopelessly tangled)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:25am Linda Lee:

(which is also what draws us to jazz! openness in the conventional structure to potential variation.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:25am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Jeff and all: thanks for indulging this conversation. I will step back now and encourage others to play. :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:26am fred:

@GST: good point, but good jokes are too few (there's only one Joke Lanz, for instance)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:26am Uncle Michael:

Today's batch of gazpacho Andaluz will be ready just about when the show ends.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:26am Linda Lee:

that's very cool, Granny. in tune to the cosmic goof. :-)
Jeff''s been very indulgent, yes. thanks Jeff.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:28am Jeff Golick:

Hey, I love the conversation. Don't have much to add, but agree that a light(-hearted) touch is really useful when wading into unknown language waters. Never hurts to ask, nicely, too.

Every once in a while, we'll all end up eating a clam. (I think that's what the jazz musos call it...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:30am Linda Lee:

ahaha! 'eating a clam'? i only have one visual for that one.. & i'm sure it's the wrong one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:31am Linda Lee:

i like this Claudia Quintet piece lots. but the whole show's been marvelous.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:32am fred:

@LL! re intentional family: my brother and sister were adopted. I'm white, my brother is Asian, my sister is black. Done wonders to open my mind, but it also means I'm often labeled a racist
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:33am Linda Lee:

what? why?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:34am doctorjazz:

Such a lovely set!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:36am doctorjazz:

I've also heard a wrong note referred to as a clam.
...also don't get that Fred
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:39am fred:

@LL: Especially with Asians (my sister was adopted much later in my early teens), having grown up with my brother means it can get really hard for me to tell whether someone is Asian or white. To a lesser extent, Asian or black or white. I'm by no means color-blind, but it's something I have to work on, because it comes out as denying someone's identity
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:40am Linda Lee:

ah. wow.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:41am Linda Lee:

so that's seen as racist? wow..
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:41am Jeff Golick:

@fred: Your awareness of it is the main thing. I think?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:42am fred:

@Jeff: More like the lack thereof
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 11:42am hyde:

i gotta go pick up lunch. thanks for the cool music. bye all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:43am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

fred: ah. race (like gender) seems to be based on perception rather than biology (hence the concept of "passing"). Again, the best approach is to respect the other person's self-identification. And be playful! :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:43am Jeff Golick:

Bye, @hyde! Happy lunching!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:43am Linda Lee:

seems like a bit of a stretch to equate color-blindness with racism tho'..
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:44am fred:

@LL: It's what GST just said: I should respect how people self-identify
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:44am Linda Lee:

yes, right. 'race' doesn't actually exist, biologically. just a convenient precept for 19th century industrialists to use as a wedge between workers who might be allies against exploitation. so here we are, assuming it has a biological basis.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:45am Uncle Michael:

Gotta tend to the soup...thanks for the choons, Jeff! Bye all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:46am Linda Lee:

self-identity is really all we have to go on. for sure. the probabilities are often assumed & rightly, but still, self-identity is the thing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:46am Jeff Golick:

Happy souping, @UM! Thanks for being here!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:49am Jeff Golick:

Yeah, respecting each other as we wish to be seen -- why so hard?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:50am Linda Lee:

lack of communication makes it hard.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:51am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

happy people are harder to oppress?
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 11:52am northguineahills:

thanks, Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:52am fred:

Maybe because we don't advertise it as clearly as we think. Though by now I have more WFMU T-shirts than non-station ones. It should be clear how I wish to be identified
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:52am Linda Lee:

classes of people unified in numbers are harder to oppress.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:54am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Jeff! thank you for an amazing three-hours of sonic bliss and the opportunity to enjoy intelligent (and playful!) conversation with folx around the world. (I just hope SMK doesn't chastise me for blowing my comment limit!!!)
Avatar Sun. 8/11/19 11:54am northguineahills:

@LL:As we all know race is both a conscious and unconscious cultural construct.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:55am Linda Lee:

@fred ~ & then there's physicality as advertisement, leading to assumption.
@ngh ~ yep.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:55am Jeff Golick:

There's a comment limit?

Bye for now, @ngh! Thanks for being here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:56am Linda Lee:

i've been chastised too, Granny. but i don't think he's minding the streams as much as the flagship show meant to invite new listeners.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:56am listener james from westwood:

Taking the last moments mobile on my phone as I check laundry; thanks Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:56am Jeff Golick:

My absolute pleasure, @GST!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:57am Jeff Golick:

My pleazh, @ljfw!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:57am fred:

@LL: Yeah. It's hard. Otherwise it would just be boring
  Sun. 8/11/19 11:57am rw:

Thx JG! Beautiful.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:57am Linda Lee:

@Jeff, yes, i lost commenting privileges for short time because of 'over commenting'. surprised? :-D
  Sun. 8/11/19 11:58am Doug Schulkind:

Answering Linda lee @11:07

Stonington, Maine
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:58am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Jeff: some of us were contacted for, er, our "generous" amount of comments on the boards. I was told to keep it to 20 per show. <3
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:58am Linda Lee:

lovely, Doug! :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:58am doctorjazz:

Great show, fun comments, great week all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:59am fleep:

Thank you for a great morning wake up, Jeff.
  Sun. 8/11/19 11:59am Clam Dog:

I love you all, too!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 11:59am Linda Lee:

thanks so much, Jeff! beautiful show! (final comment today. so there.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 12:00pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Eat more clams!
  Sun. 8/11/19 12:00pm Howard Johnson:

All you can eat clams!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 12:00pm fred:

Thanks Jeff! I hope whatever keeps you from the radio next week proves enjoyable. And happy birthday to your dad!
  Sun. 8/11/19 12:03pm Doug Schulkind:

Maybe just maybe get used to hearing Stork around these parts... Stay tuned.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 12:03pm Stanley:

Thanks Jeff
Great stuff, guys
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 12:04pm fred:

@Doug: that sounds like (possibly) great news
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sun. 8/11/19 12:05pm Jeff Golick:

Bye for now--and thanks!--@Linda Lee; @GST; @HoJo; @fred; @Stanley; our benefactor @fleep; @doc; and @rw (hi/bye)!
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