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Options November 7, 2018: Alvin Robinson and a Soul Food Buffet!

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format
Funky16Corners  Testify! Intro   Options Best of Funky16Corners Volme One  Funky16Corners  2017  MP3 
Alvin Robinson  Down Home Girl   Options 45RPM Single  Red Bird  1964  45 
Alvin Robinson  Searchin'   Options 45RPM Single  Tiger  1964  45 
Alvin Robinson  Something You Got   Options 45RPM Single  Tiger  1964  45 
Alvin Robinson  Fever   Options 45RPM Single  Red Bird  1964  45 
Alvin Robinson  Bottom of My Soul   Options 45RPM Single  Blue Cat  1965  45 
Alvin Robinson  Let The Good Times Roll   Options 45RPM Single  Blue Cat  1965  45 
Alvin Robinson  Baby Don't You Do It   Options 45RPM Single  Atco  1968  45 
Alvin Robinson  Sho' Bout To Drive Me Wild   Options 45RPM Single  Pulsar  1969  45 
 
Rex Garvin  Soul Food   Options 45RPM Single  Keynote  1963  45 
Bobby Hollaway  Cornbread Hog Maws and Chitterlins   Options 45RPM Single  Smash  1967  45 
Booker T and the MGs  Jelly Bread   Options 45RPM Single  Stax  1963  45 
Johnny Otis  The Jelly Roll   Options 45RPM Single  ELDO  1960  45 
Bob Kuban and the In-Men  Pretzel Party   Options 45RPM Single  Musicland USA  1966  45 
7-11  Do the Slurp   Options 45RPM Single  7-11  1967  45 
Asylum Choir  Soul Food   Options 45RPM Single  Smash  1968  45 
Five Counts  Watermelon Walk   Options 45RPM Single  Brent  1962  45 
Carl Holmes and the Commanders  Mashed Potatoes Pt1   Options 45RPM Single  Atlantic  1962  45 
Four Shells  Hot Dog   Options 45RPM Single  Volt  1966  45 
Hal Driggers and the Key Brothers  Black Pepper   Options 45RPM Single  Atlantic  1967  45 
Lonnie Mack  Chicken' Pickin'   Options 45RPM Single  Fraternity  1965  45 
Kip Anderson  A Knife and a Fork   Options 45RPM Single  Checker  1966  45 
 
Soul Sisters  Some Soul Food   Options 45RPM Single  Sue  1964  45 
New London Rhythm and Blues Band  Green Onions   Options Soul Stream  Vocalion  1969  LP 
Mr Wiggles  Fatback Pt1   Options 45RPM Single  Parkway  1966  45 
Obie Plenty  Beef Stew   Options 45RPM Single  Verve  1967  45 
Soul Runners  Chitlin Salad   Options 45RPM Single  MoSoul  1967  45 
Triumphs   Burnt Biscuits   Options 45RPM Single  Volt  1961  45 
Black Heat  Chicken Heads   Options Black Heat  Atlantic  1972  LP 
CSC Funk Band  Bad Banana Bread   Options 45RPM Single  Electric Cowbell  2017  45 
Watts 103rd St Rhythm Band  Spreadin' Honey   Options 45RPM Single  Keymen  1967  45 
 
Grover Washington Jr  Mercy Mercy Me   Options Inner City Blues  Kudu  1971  LP 
Grover Washington Jr  Inner City Blues   Options Inner City Blues  Kudu  1971  LP 
Grover Washington Jr  Trouble Man   Options Soul Box  Kudu  1973  LP 
 
Rex Garvin and the Mighty Cravers  I Gotta Go Now (Up On the Floor)   Options 45RPM Single  Like  1966  45 

Listener comments!

  Wed. 11/7/18 10:02pm chresti:

Ooh! Down home!!! Girl !!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:02pm coelacanth∅:

hey Larry and future funksters
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:03pm Cal Zone!:

Rock me gently! ;)
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:03pm Funky16Corners:

Hey Chresti! C!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:03pm coelacanth∅:

2nd time in 24 hours hearing this song. (not the same version)
- no complaints.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:03pm Erica:

Hi Testifiers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:04pm Funky16Corners:

What was the other one, Stones?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:04pm Funky16Corners:

Hi Erica!
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:04pm Jeff Ash:

Greetings, everyone, from Wisconsin! It's getting to be the time of year when we can really use the heat brought by Larry!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:04pm coelacanth∅:

coasters
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:05pm Funky16Corners:

Hey Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:05pm Funky16Corners:

@C - Coasters version is great!
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:06pm chresti:

I haven’t heard it in....since I had a cassette player!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:06pm Funky16Corners:

Back in the day!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:06pm coelacanth∅:

yeah it is! Alvin's ain't 1/2 bad neither!
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:09pm chresti:

This song too- slowed down!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:09pm northguineahills:

Hells and Los Larry!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:09pm Funky16Corners:

Hey NGH!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:11pm coelacanth∅:

chresti i'd consider giving you one if we weren't >2000 miles away from each-other. i just scored 2 cassette decks on sunday from my father's house (& a few dozen unopened tdks!) they're old but barely used. probably the most they might need would be belts. i wont be able to try them out for another week or more.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:12pm coelacanth∅:

(sometimes barely used is not a good thing; as with film cameras, where the seals rot and crumble if it doesn't get used enough)
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:13pm Franco Twinkie:

I like the small sound of these records. Like maybe they recorded them at the dry cleaners after hours.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:13pm Funky16Corners:

Yeah, with cassette decks and turntables the belts warp and dry out
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:13pm still b/p:

Some singers shouldn't try "Fever.". Some singers should. Alvin's right on it. Maybe they should campaign, get nominated and we'll decide on election days.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:14pm Funky16Corners:

Hey Franco! it was 1964/65. A dry cleaners was not out of the question.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:14pm coelacanth∅:

Franco and hopefully nobody put their sneakers in the dryer while recording was going on.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:14pm Funky16Corners:

hey SBP! Alvin was a master. Dr John called him a "real singer".
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:15pm still b/p:

@ Franco -- And then there's confusion around the question: What was the date of that pressing?
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:15pm Franco Twinkie:

I wasn't kidding Larry. Intimate is probably more on the dime.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:16pm coelacanth∅:

sb/p haha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:17pm coelacanth∅:

oh my my! great version!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:17pm Parq:

Got to admit, the name Alvin Robinson is a whole new one on me. This should be cool!
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:18pm Franco Twinkie:

Alvin might have been singing into a knit sweater.
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:18pm chresti:

Like a flag on a pole
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:19pm Funky16Corners:

Hey Parq!
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:20pm chresti:

Haha still b/p-special election
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:21pm Parq:

Some Ray Charles influence showing here, yeah?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:21pm coelacanth∅:

i confess ignorance as well. (i'd heard that version of searchin' but didn't know who it was)
glad to make Alvin's acquaintance.
(a little late... rest in peace)
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:21pm chresti:

Jumping jack flash
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:22pm Funky16Corners:

@Parq - Def some Ray Charles in there
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:22pm Franco Twinkie:

The stuff on Red Bird and Tiger is perfect for late night Saturday. Must locate.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:22pm coelacanth∅:

chresti i hear that
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:24pm Franco Twinkie:

The clouds might be parting. Maybe.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:26pm coelacanth∅:

oh of course! "Al Robinson"! definitely seen that name looking into personnel on others' tracks. (ie Dr.John)
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:26pm chresti:

Very much New Orleans sound
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:27pm Franco Twinkie:

Dr. John talks about the early L.A. days in his book Hoodoo Moon. Funny and Scary.
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:27pm chresti:

Coel yeah- the guitar
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:27pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Larry for the education.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:28pm Franco Twinkie:

James Booker!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:28pm coelacanth∅:

that git is killer! i can see why Jimi had to do that song.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:30pm Funky16Corners:

@Franco - Dr John's stories in that book teeter between hilarious and terrifying. I wish they were more lucid (for historical reasons) but they're great all the same
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:31pm Funky16Corners:

@C - You're welcome. That's why I'm here (or anywhere for that matter)
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:35pm Erica:

Jelly Bread sounds like the sequel to Green Onions.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:36pm Erica:

But seriously, jelly bread isn't as good without peanut butter.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:37pm Funky16Corners:

There was a lot of that going on. I love to listen to the 60s satellite survey on Sirius. They'll do the Top 40 from a particular week and you can hear all kinds of artists ripping themselves off to try and cash in on their previous hit
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:40pm Franco Twinkie:

When I lived in Pasadena there was this soul food restaurant right up the street called V&O Foods ( Very and Original, I'm not kidding) One day when I went in to get some smothered chicken and greens, this woman with a rag on her head who was holding a big pot looked me up and down and said "So, you like this food,huh?" I sheepishly said yeah. She considered me for a a few seconds and then said "I bet you like burritos too!"What could I say, but "You bet!" Sadly, the place turned into a real crappy thrift store.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:42pm Erica:

Haha 7-11 released a 45.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:42pm Funky16Corners:

We had (and lost) a really good soul food place in Asbury Park a few years back. I learned to make really good collard greens at home, though, and do a pretty nice shrimp and grits, too
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:42pm Erica:

7-11 stores were the inspiration for the Kwik-E-Mart in the Simpsons.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:42pm Funky16Corners:

@Erica - DJ Shadow and Cut Chemist used this in the famous Brainfreeze mix
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:43pm chresti:

This is great
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:43pm chresti:

7-11
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:44pm Erica:

Cool fact Larry.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:45pm coelacanth∅:

Leon rest in peace
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:45pm chresti:

We’ve got Taiwanese soul food. Here in the San Gabriel valley
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:46pm Funky16Corners:

That sounds interesting!
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:46pm Franco Twinkie:

Apparently Leon Russell would keep frozen plates of bacon and eggs in his freezer so the musicians he was working with could just pop one in the oven if they need a snack.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:48pm Funky16Corners:

That sounds like something he'd do. I just saw an interview with Rita Coolidge where she said that when she was his girlfriend she was cooking for him and and his friends 24/7.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:50pm coelacanth∅:

well, i just ate collards with mustards & turnip greens, so i like "soul food" i guess. i'm a good cook (if i do say so myself...which i am doing!) ...but i don't eat pigs and birds and such, so no bacon grease in there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:50pm Funky16Corners:

I load my greens up with bacon. Gotta get that smoky flavor (or you could use a hamhock instead)
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:51pm Franco Twinkie:

I heard Arthur Lee would get the frozen breakfast plates out of freezer just to show people while he was cracking up.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:52pm coelacanth∅:

haha i love that!
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:52pm chresti:

Hotdog Batman
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:53pm still b/p:

I loathed mashed potatoes as a kid, forced to eat at least a few awful bites. I remember missing part of annual televised Wizard of Oz while I suffered over the mashed potatoes under the rules of a stubborn insistent Mom. Now, I luz me some good mashed taters with garlic, etc. Nobody...nobody...asked for my mashed potato history, but there it is. Thank you for reading.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:53pm coelacanth∅:

Larry i do love me some smoked food...salmon, trout, almonds, gouda...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:54pm Funky16Corners:

I was explaining to my sons how hot lunch in the 60s and 70s gave me a taste for instant mashed potatoes (which in my Mom's house was sacrilege).
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 10:55pm Funky16Corners:

BTW is anyone gets heart palpitations from this Lonnie Mack 45 I take full responsibility
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:55pm Erica:

Mashed potatoes vary in taste to me still b/p. If mixed well with enough milk and butter or margarine, they taste pretty good.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:56pm coelacanth∅:

sb/p i think i heard Dee Dee Sharp ask.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:56pm Erica:

By the way I don't like the instant mashed potatoes because they taste strange and not like real potatoes. You can tell they're powdered.
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:57pm chresti:

I was that way with hotdogs, as a kid. I would ditch them out the back door
  Wed. 11/7/18 10:57pm chresti:

@still b/p
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 10:59pm still b/p:

Look. This face says, "Oh, there, there. Yes, tell me about the ghosts of mashed past."
images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 10:59pm coelacanth∅:

i grew up with "hungry jack" mashed potatoes - except on holidays. -with butter, or much more often margerine. i liked them! i'm sure i wouldn't like them now; but i love the once-every-few-years real mashed potatoes. (with butter)
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:00pm Franco Twinkie:

Once, I was not allowed to watch The Monkees until I finished my squash. I refused. My father finally relented when Laugh-in was half over. I missed the Holy Modal Rounders. Whaaa!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:00pm Parq:

Was out walking by dog (to whom *everything* is soul food, even things that aren't strictly speaking edible), so missed most of that set, sorry to say, but was glad to catch "Knife and a Fork". Great old song.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:02pm chresti:

Shit on a shingle was a problem with me
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:03pm coelacanth∅:

we were required to eat everything on our plates (and my mother doled out the food on our plates) we were not allowed to leave the table until we'd finished, and the dog was not allowed in the dining room while we ate! i literally almost threw up a few times eating lima beans, kidney stew, chicken liver, brussel sprouts...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:03pm coelacanth∅:

...rutabaga.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:04pm Funky16Corners:

I LOVE TURNIPS!!!
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:04pm Dean:

I don't get limited palates. I eagerly ate everything. Might a been a bit queasy about avocados, but I soon learned to enjoy them. I really don't understand picky eaters (my kids, for instance).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:05pm coelacanth∅:

i like turnips now. and brussel sprouts, and i tolerate lima beans in things.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:05pm Dean:

People complain about "texture," but I'm afraid everything has texture. That's sorta the point.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:06pm Funky16Corners:

I grew up the oldest of five kids with my Dad making a public school teacher's salary. Ate a lot of sspaghetti, pancakes, fish sticks and the like. Still love them all.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:06pm Erica:

Yeah I was always a picky eater (still am). My mom was nice when it came to food. She usually serves me what I do eat because seriously, serving kids what they won't eat is a waste of food.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:06pm Funky16Corners:

I make a mean roasted brussell sprouts with apples, bacon and craisins
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:06pm Franco Twinkie:

I would throw stuff I didn't want to eat out the kitchen door over the neighbors fence .
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:07pm coelacanth∅:

the problem was that my mother bought frozen vegetables and then boiled them. served with nothing but the salt and pepper on the table. that's brusselsprouticide. (also supermarket brand mixed vegetables-icide...etc.)
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:07pm Erica:

Also when I think of "eat everything on my plate" I think of "eat it, ALL of it." It's a reference to a cartoon called Danny Phantom.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:07pm Dean:

OTOH, I also firmly believe that people should eat what they want. We'll be a healthier population if we did. Put another way, I can't believe that many people really prefer McDonald's.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:08pm chresti:

Not getting desert, was in store for us if we didn’t eat our food- not enforced that harshly-
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:08pm Dean:

Er, ^if we do.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:08pm Funky16Corners:

The only thing from my childhood that I won't eat/serve is waxed beans. Gross,
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:08pm still b/p:

Wasn't exposed to much variety until I was an adult. I don't think a clove of garlic ever crossed the threshold of childhood home. Mom was no example o adventurous eating. Dad would eat mushy vegetables, but I don't think she's had five servings in her life, never mind daily. Her Thanksgiving plate -- despite the range of choices set out -- is ALWAYS a spare composition in white and tan. But....she'll be ninety next month.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:10pm Funky16Corners:

Before she went back to work (when I was in high school) my Mom was the queen of casseroles and lasagna. All delicious. I remember picking at cold lasagna in the refrigerator when I was a kid.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:11pm coelacanth∅:

Larry i cannot tell you how excited i was on the rare occasion that we were served pancakes, fish sticks or spaghetti.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:11pm Erica:

Who eats Beef Stew for breakfast? Gross!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:12pm Funky16Corners:

Obie Plenty and his family, apparently.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:12pm coelacanth∅:

my mother made lasagna once, if i'm not mistaken. "too much work".
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:12pm northguineahills:

My favorite soul food place I loved as an undergrad closed weeks after I moved back here. Haven't found a suitable replacement since.

@chresti: I love SOS!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:13pm Funky16Corners:

Though, to be perfectly honest, when I was a bachelor, I would eat all kinds of incongruous stuff for breakfast. I also worked late at night, so I was off kilter.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:14pm Dean:

My mom's lasagna was wonderful, too. I now make a pretty remarkable one--just did this last weekend--and my 7YO will gobble it up.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:14pm still b/p:

Take a morning dip!
There's a lake of stew
And of whiskey, too
You can paddle all around 'em
In a big canoe
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:14pm Franco Twinkie:

My mom is getting me back for all the horrible behavior that I subjected her involving food as a child....In the very same kitchen! Oh man, I could tell you stories.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:15pm Dean:

Unlike my mom, I used to make my own pasta, too. But those days are mostly behind me. Can't manage it in the space we have and with the kids and kitty cat running around.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:17pm Funky16Corners:

My Mom stopped cooking like that when we all moved out. I think we broke her. Now she concentrates on what crazy thing she's going to do to the sweet potatoes on Thanksgiving.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:17pm Franco Twinkie:

Dean, do you go to that place on Forth St. behind behind Pete's for Ravioli?
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:19pm Dean:

That place, Franco, is no more. Cafe Rouge became something else and now it's the larger Tacubaya. Or do you mean the market there? No. Way too expensive, and anyway, my pasta is better. I'm fine with boxed stuff.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:19pm Dean:

That Peet's, by the way, is where I did a serious amount of my reading for law school.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:20pm coelacanth∅:

i'm very Thankful that my mother forced us to eat whatever she served - even though it wasn't by any intelligent upbringing decision she'd made.
the only exception to that is that i kept telling her eggplant made my mouth hurt but she made me eat it anyway.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:21pm coelacanth∅:

... although it's in my nature enough that i probably would've grown up to be an adventurous eater anyway.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:22pm Funky16Corners:

Man oh man...after my Mom went back to work and y father started cooking....good gravy. One of the most talented people I've ever known with no talent whatsoever for cooking
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:23pm Dean:

Funny, my mom did 98% of the cooking, which I obviously loved, but my dad used to do one or two things--an onion cucumber salad, scrambled eggs with bread, etc.--and those are what inspired me to start cooking on my own. Gender connection, obviously.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:23pm Funky16Corners:

We made hot dogs tonight, but we served them with our own homemade sauerkraut, so there's that.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:23pm Franco Twinkie:

Dean do you ever go to Spengers for clam chowder?
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:23pm Erica:

We had hotdogs tonight too Larry.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:24pm coelacanth∅:

my father was a good cook; though he did tend to go overboard when he discovered something new. (like wine in soup)
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:24pm Dean:

Hot dogs with sauerkraut -- never mind hot dogs with *homemade* sauerkraut -- do not call for apology!

Spengers closed about a week ago. Berkeley is tanking. I've only been there for a martini.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:25pm chresti:

My parents had the burl Ives version of big rock candy mountain
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:26pm Dean:

I have no doubt whatsoever that the Bay Area's much-touted food scene is hugely overblown. There is no question in my mind about the superiority of restaurants in the LA area. Up here cooking is all so precious. Down there -- with exceptions like Suzanne Goin -- you'll find hearty, well prepared food.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:27pm Franco Twinkie:

I love hot dogs and suaerkraut! I usually use a flour tortilla instead of a bun.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:28pm Dean:

Just this week, I've spent an hour or two trying to find a respectable Italian restaurant in SF, no kidding. A rare species.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:28pm chresti:

Me and my parents went to Peet’s on chestnut and shattuck-I think in the late seventies early eighties
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:29pm coelacanth∅:

my mom was, probably still is capable; but she really didn't care that much. when i was 17 she took a course in "chinese cooking" with our new downstairs neighbor. our tradition was we could have whatever we wanted for birthday dinners, and i'd become a vegetarian the year before. i said i want chinese food, and man! she did shine! what a spread - and what a party! all vegetarian; all delicious....like 15 different things they made.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:30pm Funky16Corners:

@C - That sounds really good! BTW The sauerkraut was our first foray into pickling. We may move on to kimchi next.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:30pm Franco Twinkie:

Goddamnit to hell, Dean. I am so sad about what you just said. Starting now, I hate Berkeley.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:30pm Dean:

I suspect you mean Vine and Walnut, chresti, the original store. It's now operated by some remote investor totally independent of Al Peet's family. And, naturally, the coffee sucks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:31pm coelacanth∅:

i love sauerkraut and kim chi. sometimes i eat just brown rice with kim chi. mmm.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:32pm Funky16Corners:

Kimchi is one of my favorite things. I've been to places that do kimchi fried rice.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:33pm Dean:

Yep, Spenger's and Brennan's both recently and suddenly closed. Fun places, gone. On the upside, I not long ago returned to Cesar on Shattuck, next door to Chez Panisse, with low expectations. I hadn't been there for years, and my previous couple of experiences involved a dish I regard as among the top two or three I've ever had, "matrimonios," grilled anchovies on toasted bread with aioli. It remains spectacular. I could eat it for breakfast.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:33pm northguineahills:

I have papaya kimchi in the fridge right now!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:34pm Funky16Corners:

Ooooh that sounds delicious!
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:35pm Dean:

'nother top dish: Joachim Splichal's potato lasagna at the original Patina on Melrose.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:35pm coelacanth∅:

it really does work with an array of foods.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:37pm northguineahills:

I was outside watering the garden and missed CSC Funk Band, a good friend of mine and WFMU Gig Talk lad is in that!
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:37pm Dean:

And still another memorable dish, a Porterhouse at Tanino in Westwood ten or fifteen years aog.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:37pm Dean:

a-g-o
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:38pm chresti:

Walnut! That’s it
She’s a brick house in there
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:38pm still b/p:

I ate sauerkraut and Canadian bacon on a pizza in Iowa -- the house special at Happy Joe's -- in 1979. It was good. But I don't think I've eaten sauerkraut since. Nobody asked fgor my sauerkraut history, but...(find a sauerkraut song singer, NOW, coel!).
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:40pm Erica:

My brother would love to hang out with you guys. All HE talks about is food too. Haha! He eats more than I can.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:41pm doctorjazz:

Here for the home stretch!
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:41pm Franco Twinkie:

Today I got lunch for my mom and myself at Northgate, a mexican supermarket that occupies the Thriftymart of my childhood. Man, what a place! Mole negro, chicken tinga, nopales, chile rellanos and home made tortillas. All wonderful, and my mom just complained. Payback time.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:41pm Funky16Corners:

Hey Doc!
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:41pm chresti:

My mom loved chez pannise- she got into exploring restaurants to try when they moved up there
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:42pm Erica:

Hi docjazz! We were discussing food.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:42pm Funky16Corners:

The fam and I were out in Lancaster, PA this past weekend and had some arepas that would change your life.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:43pm coelacanth∅:

sb/p! uh...uh - frank Zappa?!
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:43pm Dean:

It's still a cozy space, chresti, but they added this weird orthogonal wing to the main space. My kid's orthodontist is half a block down the street, so I'm in the vicinity now and then. Good wine shop across the street in the old water services building.

Franco, I love Northgate! I visit the one in La Habra, near my mom. It's brand new, utterly amazing selection and prices.

Chez Panisse is resting on its laurels these days, much as so many new restaurants are devoting way more time to image than to food. It's sad.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:43pm Dean:

^First paragraph above refers to Peet's at Walnut and Vine.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:44pm northguineahills:

I'll eat anything pickled or fermented, including hakarl!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:45pm coelacanth∅:

i not infrequently make a small meal of raw pecans and sauerkraut...for the record.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:45pm coelacanth∅:

(maybe i should write a song about that)
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:46pm chresti:

My sauerkraut history is similar to my early hot dog history
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:47pm Dean:

For me, cabbage is a desert island food. If I could only have one, cabbage would be on the short list.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:47pm coelacanth∅:

i love a veggie dog with sauerkraut and chipotlé mayo. i can't resist it sometimes! -with some swiss cheese melted on is even better.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:48pm Funky16Corners:

Cabbage is one of the great underrated foods. We always make extra when we have corned beef because everyone loves it so much.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:49pm Erica:

Since everyone is talking about their favorite foods, let me add that I love tacos, but I prefer them mild. Spicy gives me the runs. Just saying.
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:50pm Franco Twinkie:

Dean, I only went to that Patina once. It was an ex-girlfriends birthday. Although I knew the food was top tier, my heart wasn't into it. Why? beats me. I love throwing around money when it comes to food, but some times you just miss the mark.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:51pm doctorjazz:

Food talk. ..
took my mother in law out for her 102nd birthday this weekend (I did post this elsewhere, apologies if you already read it). What food does she eat to keep going this long? Kosher Deli... Tongue sandwich, kishka (stuffed derma, French fries, a cardiologist nightmare).
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:52pm Funky16Corners:

MMmmmmmm, deli! Gimme all of the half sour pickles!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:53pm coelacanth∅:

i like cabbage but i really really like other foods in the same (brassica) family...bok choy, broccoli, nappa. occasionally mustards and turnips and collards.
- (full circle) -
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:53pm doctorjazz:

Lox Stock And Deli, to be precise (great half sour pickes, BTW...)
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:54pm Franco Twinkie:

Dean, that water service building used to be East Bay Mud, where Chrestie's dad worked!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:54pm doctorjazz:

Pretty good stuffed cabbage as well
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:55pm chresti:

I like raw cabbage with a little oil and vinegar-black pepper
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:55pm Funky16Corners:

@Doc - In East Brunswick?
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:55pm Dean:

I've been to Patina a few times, though not since Splichal sold his interest. I adore(d) the place.

A good deli is a treasure.

EBMUD?! I pay those sons of bitches every couple months.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:56pm coelacanth∅:

i like raw cabbage in cole slaw...if it's good cole slaw - which is rare.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:56pm doctorjazz:

Yup, great place, Larry!
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:58pm Dean:

I agree, coel, but I think cole slaw is generally good and sometimes exquisite.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:59pm Funky16Corners:

@Doc - Before we had kids, and lived up in Middlesex County my wife and I used to go there all the time
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:59pm Franco Twinkie:

Thanks for the picnic, Larry.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 11/7/18 11:59pm coelacanth∅:

there's a café where i live that occasionally has exquisite cole slaw. it's true though i'll take just okay cole slaw as well.
  Wed. 11/7/18 11:59pm chresti:

Thanks Larry! for the excellent feast !
Avatar Wed. 11/7/18 11:59pm Erica:

The show is over and you're still talking about food. Haha! Goodnight y'all! And enjoy your cabbages, pickles and cole slaw while I get ready for bed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:59pm Funky16Corners:

My pleasure! Thanks for listening Franco!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 11/7/18 11:59pm Funky16Corners:

Nite Chresti!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Thu. 11/8/18 12:00am doctorjazz:

Like my Cole slaw not too mayonnaise-y, more vinegary
  Thu. 11/8/18 12:00am Dean:

Berkeley has a Lox, Stock & Bagel. Never been there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 11/8/18 12:00am coelacanth∅:

i wonder if the 'stones tried to sue Rex for this "satisfaction" rif
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Thu. 11/8/18 12:00am Funky16Corners:

I think the Stones would have been very busy chasing stuff like that down!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 11/8/18 12:00am coelacanth∅:

Thanks Larry! Great program always!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Thu. 11/8/18 12:01am Funky16Corners:

Nite C!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Thu. 11/8/18 12:01am doctorjazz:

1962...would've predated the Stones.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 11/8/18 12:01am coelacanth∅:

-and hopefully it would turn around and bite them if they dared!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Thu. 11/8/18 12:01am doctorjazz:

Thanks, Larry!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Thu. 11/8/18 12:02am coelacanth∅:

oh, dr.j i was just going by the 1966 date.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Thu. 11/8/18 12:02am Funky16Corners:

Nite Doc!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Thu. 11/8/18 12:03am Funky16Corners:

1966 is correct.
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