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Options November 18, 2014: Punk Rock Saved My Life
My in-studio guest tonight is author Tony Rettman, whose new book - NYHC: New York Hardcore 1980 - 1990 - examines the people. bands, music, clubs and culture of that movement. It's a subject near and dear to me: I was a founding member of the band The Nihilistics, which most people didn't consider Hardcore, nor New York-based. They were probably correct. The Nihilistics were more punk rock than hardcore, if you're understanding of "hardcore" is music built for moshing. And thought Lindenhurst - where Mike Nicolosi and myself (pictured above) came from IS on Long Island, which IS part of New York State and only forty miles east of Manhattan, we had a hard time being considered "New York" for the purposes of "the scene".

The Nihilistics get their own chapter in NYHC, as do The Stimulators, Bad Brains, Even Worse, False Prophets, The Undead, The Misguided, Reagan Youth, Kraut, Agnostic Front and more. Tony also delves into the venues of the day, from Tim Sommer's Noise The Show on WNYU, to the CBGB's matinee.

It's nice to see that it's all been documented for future generations. So much of what we did and achieved impacted what came next but exists on the periphery, obscure despite its influence.

Tony and I would like you to join the conversation. Call 201-209-WFMU and tell us about your involvement in the NYHC scene.

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  Tue. 11/18/14 6:06pm Queen Of Caldor:

Avatar Tue. 11/18/14 6:12pm dale:

i would think if you pulled out a camera at an nyc club back then it would end up down your throat with your teeth
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 11/18/14 6:12pm Mike East:

  Tue. 11/18/14 6:14pm janimpala:

Hi Chris Hi Tony. Jan from SFA here. Can't wait for the book.
yeah cameras were hidden or broken
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:15pm Chad:

This is awesome!
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:16pm janimpala:

haven't seen the RIP section of the book yet, but hope my brother Will "No Edge" Lorenzen is in it.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:18pm Ray:

Did you ever play City Gardens in Trenton Cris? Man, that was the center of my hardcore experience.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 11/18/14 6:18pm Fuzzy:

"I'd rather drink than fuck!"
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:18pm janimpala:

(barring the Beasties) the bands didnt break out nationally, but certain individuals did and are doing very well +30 years later.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:21pm janimpala:

good evening Ron
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:25pm Queen Of Caldor:

i miss that band The Queefs
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:27pm scum:

don[t for get the shows at the Pep.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:27pm janimpala:

Ron you forgot to mention the dwindling aerospace industry out on LI. The reason my family left da Bronx, Grumman, is an empty shell, same for a number of others. The whole fishing and boat building industry too
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:28pm janimpala:

haha I remember going to the Peppermint Lounge both of them.
Avatar Tue. 11/18/14 6:28pm Todd Killings:

Remember Ed Gein's Car?
Eric Hedin (bass) is still going in a band called Zombie Beatdown (Keene NH)
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:29pm janimpala:

the one on 45th St. had a pretty high stage. Speaking of Ed Geins Car, Scott Weis is leaving NYC for LAX
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:31pm JakeGould:

Ello? As in hello or the social network?
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:31pm janimpala:

Chris - I had a pirate radio show in Brooklyn in the 80's and the Nihilistics called me up from a pay phone by that cemetary by the LIE in Maspeth.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:31pm G.W.:

Chris , I sent my only copy of one of your pep shows to Ron , like a schmuck, to copy , and he never sent it back.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:31pm m. gregory:

I worked at this guitar shop from 2010-2011 in Roslyn that was in the old space where My Father’s Place existed. Overpriced custom shop guitars for rich lawyers who collect stuff, talk about the other end of the spectrum!
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:33pm Queen Of Caldor:

thes saltines I'm eating are doing nothing for me.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:36pm janimpala:

  Tue. 11/18/14 6:37pm janimpala:

Sean did GREAT artwork. SHOK was great too. I miss Unberto still.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:42pm will:

Thanks guys, never really knew about the Nihilistics but went and found meself a copy their 1983 LP on discogs and grabbed it.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:43pm G.W.:

i remember when ron and doug faked their deaths and had it announced on noise the show after timmy left.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:44pm janimpala:

I remember SFA playing MFP with the Bad Brains. They wanted us to sell our T shirts for thier price and give them a pretty high cut of that. The bouncers were dicks and we managed to lure one guy in the pit by having Brendan hang from the lights and when the guy got in there he did not leave happy.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:46pm L.E.S.:

Great show guys. This is authenticity. Do a part 2 soon
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:49pm janimpala:

Yes, excellent show. But it is getting to be like when Fonzie took over Happy Days. Ron needs to get off the phone now.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:52pm jack rabid:

i also offered tony $5 to say something nice about ron but i was similarly rebuffed!
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:52pm charlie:

Hi from Amsterdam, nice show :-)
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:53pm Ray:

Excellent show. Im buying the book. Txs Cris.
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:54pm Hortense The Mule-faced Girl:

Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 11/18/14 6:55pm Guido from Cologne:

enjoyed this, thanks
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:55pm janimpala:

Hi Jack
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 11/18/14 6:56pm Todd76Pct:

Great show, Chris!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 11/18/14 6:58pm Jeff:

Doug Schulkind closed his show just now with The Nihilistics from 1984...
  Tue. 11/18/14 6:59pm janimpala:

Oh snap Chrystal Ship the Doors cover band!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 11/18/14 6:59pm Stevel:

Nice show!
Avatar Tue. 11/18/14 7:00pm dale:

shoulda been three hours with more music interspersed in. next time.
  Tue. 11/18/14 7:02pm janimpala:

Avatar Swag For Life Member Tue. 11/18/14 7:02pm Stevel:

dale: I'd listen to that show too.
  Thu. 11/20/14 10:19am Matt Berlyant:

Hey Chris and Tony: I loved hearing the kind words about The Big Takeover (I'm a writer for it) and my friend Jack Rabid. I concur completely. Great show, too. I can't wait to read the book. And hey Tony! I hope you're doing well.
  Thu. 11/20/14 11:43pm Jeannine:

Chris it's nice to see this picture of you & Mike, you both started together & it's something, very memoriable, thank you Jeannine Gately/Nicolosi
  Thu. 6/11/15 3:43pm Ron Rancid Nihilistics:

Great to be here!!! yeah right ... Hell-O Chris!!!
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