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This week: station manager Ken Freedman, on the year ahead in tech

Recent News

• Happy New Year! Here's how to delete online accounts you no longer need (Consumer Reports, Dec 27).

• As I mentioned on Tech Pie this morning on Wake & Bake, Zuckerberg-funded researchers are testing a neural device on primates, the "wireless artifact-free neuromodulation device," or WAND. A mind-reading, muscle-controlling device. In 2017, re this BBC piece (19 April 2017), Zuck announced his goal for Facebook users to "share a pure thought or feeling" straight from a neural device. "We're working on a system that will let you type straight from your brain."

Artificial intelligence turns brain activity into speech (Science magazine, Jan 2): Scientists "analyzed recordings from the auditory cortex as patients heard recordings of people naming digits from zero to nine. The computer then reconstructed the spoken numbers from neural data alone." In another case, "A microphone captured their voices as they read single-syllable words aloud. Meanwhile, electrodes recorded [a patient's] brain's speech planning areas and motor areas" as the patient read individual words. "The network mapped electrode readouts to the audio recordings, and then reconstructed words from [the] brain data."

Deepfakes: How a new technology is being used to put women’s faces on porn stars’ bodies (Washington Post video, Dec 30, 2018): quote from Robert Chesney, U. Texas School of Law. See also the companion article from Dec 30.

....In "smart tech" news......


Above: "We live in a world where our toothbrushes request microphone access." -Will Scott, Jan 5, 2018


And from superhero actor Chris Evans.......



DNA-testing company 23andMe has signed a $300 million deal with a drug giant (July 2018): "The pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline announced it was acquiring a $300 million stake in 23andMe." Writes David Golumbia on Jan 5, 2019: "When you buy products from 23andme etc, one of the many destructive things you are doing is *paying* to give big pharma incredibly valuable information about you--and your relatives and others who didn't consent."

.....and finally, from our friends at the TSA.....



"TSA has an app claiming to tell you the wait times at airport security. Here are the permissions it requires." -Dan Gillmor, Jan 6, 2019


For discussion with station manager Ken

How Hackers Bypass Gmail 2FA at Scale (Vice/Motherboard, Dec 19, 2018): "A new Amnesty International report goes into some of the technical details around how hackers can automatically phish two-factor authentication tokens sent to phones." See also last week's conversation with Matt Haughey about password managers and other security issues.

A slashed tire, a pointed gun, bullies on the road (AZ Central, Dec 11, 2018): Arizona man draws gun on self-driving vehicle.

A smart toilet promises a ‘fully-immersive experience’ (The Verge, Jan 6): "an 'intelligent toilet' with built-in surround sound speakers, ambient mood lighting, and Amazon Alexa voice controls" - who's ready to record bathroom audio to send to Amazon HQ? Get ready to flush $7,000.

Black Mirror: Bandersnatch could become Netflix's secret marketing weapon (The Verge, Jan 2): "The greatest advantage lies in the data Netflix can gather from user participation and the ways that data could be used to create an internal programmatic marketing infrastructure." Plot choices in the interactive show are presented for "data harvesting."

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Listener comments!

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Rich in Washington:

Hullo, Mark!
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ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techteologists
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queems:

hello there
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listener james from westwood:

Evening Mark, Ken, and all!!
  6:01pm
melinda:

Hi everyone
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herb.nyc:

I am ready to have my Tetons shifted!
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Michael 98145:

2019 is go
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geezerette:

Howdy!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Can I get a smart radio? Never mind, this is it right here!
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Webhamster Henry:

Hello 'tonix!
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Bas NL:

Mark! Techtonic friends!
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TDK60:

Semi-analog straggler catchin' up here..
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Greg from ZONE 5:

Evening, Mark & all!
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dale:

hello dere.
  6:04pm
Lanceromance02:

im a vinyl fan too but what about the environmental hazards of plastics?
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Michael 98145:

i was appalled to discover over the holidays how many of my relatives thought having an Alexa in their house was ... normal.
cripes.
  6:04pm
melinda:

I had some climate anxiety today but most of the time I feel optimistic about 2019.
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northguineahills:

@Michael: same here.
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geezerette:

Michael, eeeeeeeeek!
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Beast of Boonton:

Hi Mark and SM Ken - Happy 'high-tech' New Year!
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Michael 98145:

yes. hi ya, gz'ette!
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Rand al'Thor:

Made it here in time. Hello, all!
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Webhamster Henry:

Looks like we're approaching "jacking in" from your news stories.
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dale:

gonna have a vodka and techtonic.
  6:07pm
melinda:

@Michael yikes.
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listener james from westwood:

Re: the Chris Evans tweet: Did he never try to get an early-90s computer and printer to work together?!
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annie:

hehe, i have wine glass full of malbec
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-Ken:

Hi everybody
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Greg from ZONE 5:

The airbnb I stayed in this weekend had an Alexa. It was super fun to play with and yell at for a couple days (and make it play FMU)…but you couldn't pay me to have one in my home.
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geezerette:

Halloooo, Michae!
And Techbuddies!
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queems:

hello there sm ken
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annie:

KEN!
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geezerette:

Cheers.Dale!
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queems:

are those baby carrots in a remote
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Beast of Boonton:

Yay, SM Ken is not a bot today!
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Bas NL:

Best wishes for the new year SM Ken!
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Webhamster Henry:

Keep that MySpace account! I'm sure it's going to come back! #securitythroughobscurity
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Michael 98145:

- looks like we better be careful what we do in front of our toilet -
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Ken From Hyde Park:

2019 has not been kind to the station's Green Room.
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chris:

hi, Mark and Ken and techknowledgables.
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Rand al'Thor:

I'm a glistener, even though I rarely have time to be on chat.
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annie:

i was convinced to try the DDGo browser and RSS feed.. well.... nope... way too busy and flashy; considered it deleted.
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melinda:

Hi Ken!
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Bas NL:

IoM Internet of Monkeys.
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dale:

i saw today that google saved $3.7 BILLION in taxes by shuffling money between ireland, the netherlands and bermuda. wish i could do that.
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TDK60:

No matter how positive I might be, this "wand" gizmo gives me the negatives.
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ultradamno:

Well it will give fingers a much needed rest.
  6:15pm
melinda:

A device straight from creepytown
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dale:

i like 'wanda' better than just wand.
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queems:

well i don't like this one bit
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Sean d:

I think I got one installed!
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Webhamster Henry:

As a guy whose app is used by people with severe disabilities, I'd like to know more about the "WAND" technology. I also have a totally unrelated "Wond" device. voinventions.com
  6:16pm
Sam:

Anyone working on trying to read our thoughts in any way shape or form needs to be arrested immediately!! So evil and so unacceptable!
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ultradamno:

Somehow this ends with talking cats and I do not want that.
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queems:

I HATE IT
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Bas NL:

It sounds a bit like those old ESP recordings..
  6:17pm
JakeGould:

Hey Mark. Important information here about teens and texting. i66.tinypic.com...
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Sean d:

I had a Wada test on my brain, I couldn't talk
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queems:

@sean d what exactly were they doing in there?
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Sam:

Talking cats? No this ends with us as complete slaves in a dystopian dictatorship. Good luck resisting when they can read your thoughts.
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geezerette:

Webhamster, people with ALS, etc., could really benefit in a variety of ways.
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dale:

what if this could let people in comas or with traumatic brain injuries communicate with us - huh? HUH?
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ultradamno:

I foresee a future text alerts starting with "your disgruntled spouse is now thinking:"
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dale:

cat's would order us to clean up after their poo and tinkle.
  6:20pm
CeeDub:

I was a pretty early adopter in May of 08 but never used my real name and never liked anything related to commerce. deleted my Facebook and don't miss it at all
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Sam:

People in comas say the darndest things
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Michael 98145:

" sent from iBrain "
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TDK60:

I can see the medical possibility there, but it should be strictly kept to that.
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geezerette:

McChesney.
  6:21pm
Sam:

If we could hear what everyone was really thinking about us at all times I think everyone would kill themselves.
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ultradamno:

Sam, you know you're describing the talking cats world with talk of being "complete slaves in a dystopian dictatorship"
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Ken From Hyde Park:

The CES has it covered, dale. www.cnet.com...
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Sean d:

They were taking out some tumor that was growing back, took it out my left temple
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Webhamster Henry:

Yes, we would be living in a world of YouTube comments.
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Bas NL:

We'd need some 'good manners' algorithm to not speak ones mind all the time..
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queems:

@sean d WOW hope you heal up soon!
  6:24pm
Sam:

Password managers are less cool than McDonalds managers.
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listener james from westwood:

THANK YOU KEN I thought I was the only one leery of those one-password outfits.
  6:24pm
melinda:

Things like wand are both potentially life-changing for the disabled and creepy.
  6:25pm
JakeGould:

All tech is neutral. The use and misuse is the issue. And data regulation is the key.
  6:25pm
JakeGould:

Use abstract art collages to store your passwords.
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Sean d:

@queems! Thanks! i do feel better!
  6:25pm
Sam:

Take a phrase you remember and change a few letters. Like “Awl dawgs goo to heather”
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Jeff Moore:

Whatever system you use to keep track of your passwords... you should never ever reuse any single password for multiple sites.
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dale:

ken from hp - my fat cats couldn't get up in there.
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queems:

password12345
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liXiviated life:

Absolutely agree with SMK.
Be your own cypher
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Webhamster Henry:

I used some Serbian word variations for a few years, but now, every site gets its own email login and its own password. I have hundreds of them.
  6:26pm
melinda:

Coming up with your own passwords isn't that hard and if you have a written list they don't have to be rememberable.
  6:27pm
JakeGould:

Come up with a scheme and always use 2 factor authentication.
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Webhamster Henry:

If there are security questions, don't answer them correctly.
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Michael 98145:

hehe, i thought JakeG was referencing Art Colleges ...

:)
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geezerette:

ha!
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queems:

welp time for my first weekly panic attack
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JakeGould:

@Michael98145: Typo! I always hire undergrads in art school to remember my passwords.
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Robert Tables:

I use a locally-installed (on my computer) password manager like KeePass to generate and store random passwords for each of my accounts. It's encrypted with a master password generated by Diceware: www.diceware.com. That master password is committed to my memory only.
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Jeff Moore:

Two-factor via text message seems iffy; I'm not super confident about the security of mobile networks.
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liXiviated life:

Dump your gmail and yahoo
Try protonmail.com
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JakeGould:

Does anyone remember how in the old days of BBSes you would be asked for your mother’s maiden name? Oh how quaint!
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Webhamster Henry:

Do 2FA with telegraphy.
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Michael 98145:

those undergrads would be most appreciative
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I had a dream last night where I was on the phone with a scammer and was trying to avoid saying "Yes" to answer any questions.
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dale:

i had little citizens communications for internet so had a citlink acount. then frontier took them over. and now they switched the mail server to yahoo. do i need to worry about having yahoo mail even though my email ends with 'citlink.net?'
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Robert Tables:

@Jeff Moore, SMS is wholly insecure (SIM swapping, SS7 vulnerabilities). When given the option, I'd prefer email delivery over SMS, assuming nothing better is available.
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annie:

i've been using yahoo email since forever, i change my PW regularly, and you coulnd't pay me to opne a google account anything
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Sam:

My favorite is when the IRS says you owe money, and they want it paid in amazon gift cards. And people believe it.
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dale:

well, probably all men have porn activity so they have half a chance of success.
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queems:

all of this black mirror shit is over my head
  6:32pm
Johnzon:

I have a question for you guys. Ive deactivated my facebook and instagram. I will go on facebook occasionally, for instance when a friend died or if there's something I need to do that can only be done through fb. if I only use it a couple times a year... what's better about deleting it permanently. Don't get me wrong I want to eventually. Just looking for your opinion on deletion vs. deactivation and a related question: what do you think are the odds of facebook one day, prospectively under a more enlightened government, being regulated/becoming a more consumer friendly less creepy version of itself or even a public utility?
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Webhamster Henry:

I'm actually in the middle of it - it's hard to go through all the paths!
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Rand al'Thor:

Still haven't seen Bandersnatch. Black Mirror fan, but that episode and the multi-branching style doesn't interest me.
  6:33pm
JakeGould:

“Choose Your Own Adventure”
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dale:

bandersnatch was my first viewing of black mirror and i have no will to watch any more, but i'll give it another shot if ken says so.
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Webhamster Henry:

My son writes visual novels, which are a lot like the old Adventure Games that Bandersnatch is like.
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Jeff Moore:

To echo what @Webhamster Henry said: don't use any actual genuine biographical info for security questions (because that stuff can be looked up). Make up different and untrue answers for each vendor, and keep track of them in whatever your personal password safe approach is.
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JakeGould:

@Johnzon: Do whatever you want. I think deactivating is fine.
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chad from oregon:

Always good to hear Ken. Also always good to hear? Klam!
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Webhamster Henry:

There is a whole world of visual novels!
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Rich in Washington:

If one were to construct one show from the most common choices, it's a rather lackluster Black Mirror episode. I think the music geek aspect sucked me in so much, but it seems like the choices don't affect the outcome that much. I did get to a fairly satisfactory - albeit characteristic downer - ending.
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Rand al'Thor:

I've played some visual novels.
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melinda:

@Jeff I enjoy making up fake answers
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geezerette:

Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" is the earliest description of nteractivity I can think of.
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dale:

i like the episode where all decisions lead to station manager ken getting raped by a bear.
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Michael 98145:

@Jeff, i am enjoying filling big data lakes with fake birthdays
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Rich in Washington:

but then I also never really liked choose-your-own-adventure book OR computer games.
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annie:

"Bandersnatch" was boring to me
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Webhamster Henry:

A lot of visual novel choices aren't very consequential.
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queems:

i don't like to make decisions, that's why i watch television
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Adam West Coaster:

@dale, Bandersnatch was beyond awful! As stated, by Mark and Ken, the series as a whole offers so much! Once again, Bandersnatch was such a snooze!
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geezerette:

I worry about this corporate war on imagination.
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JakeGould:

If you want an exciting “Choose Your Own Adventure” just go to a restaurant you have never been too and order food you have never ordered.
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melinda:

I generally avoid dystopian "entertainment".
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ultradamno:

I was disappointed the explanation of Netflix wasn't "we mail people damaged DVDs for rental".
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Jeff Moore:

@Robert Tables: I trust Google Authenticator as a second factor much more than nonsense involving SMS.

If you're allergic to anything with Google in the name, just look for another TOTP client. My friend Bennett speaks highly of andOTP:

github.com...
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Webhamster Henry:

It's kind of meta in a hit-you-over-the-head way.
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Robert Tables:

I really liked the 90's LucasArts adventure games (Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Grim Fandango).
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JakeGould:

“Dragon’s Lair” is an interactive narrative if you think about it. www.youtube.com...
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dale:

ultradamno - HAH! blockbuster anyway....
  6:38pm
liXiviated life:

I totally remember that
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Johnzon:

Run Lola Run was pretty good
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Michael 98145:

there were tv films that were blue at the top (for sky) and yellow and green below
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geezerette:

Jake & Melinda, agree with you both.
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liXiviated life:

Once I just drew on true screen.
Mom was not happy
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queems:

@melinda same
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dale:

i read it only worked on playstation and those kinds of things. roku was unresponsive.
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northguineahills:

What about the movie Clue?
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JakeGould:

And “Space Ace” www.youtube.com...
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TDK60:

I'll put an old cassette on, and read a book.
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ultradamno:

I recall the CD Roms The Residents put out, like Bad Day On The Midway as superior examples of interactive storytelling (though probably more morbid than Bandersnatch)
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Webhamster Henry:

My son is a Witcher & sequels player. Also a huge Clue fan.
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Robert Tables:

@Jeff Moore, I'm using this for iOS: github.com...
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Rich in Washington:

@ultradamno: "What's a DVD?"
  6:41pm
JakeGould:

The “Star Wars∏” series can be considered a narrative with different choices.

• You can just watch the 1977 film and never see the sequels.
• You can watch all of the original trilogy films and that’s that.
• You can accept or reject the prequels.
• You can accept or reject the sequels.
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Webhamster Henry:

Bandersnatch: I chose "no" in the tutorial section in the beginning, but it ran the show anyway.
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Rich in Washington:

The Residents were always so ahead of the curve that they ran into consumer product's short life cycle/built-in obsolescence.
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liXiviated life:

All I want to do is watch the tv.
Don’t they pay writers to come up with the story?
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dale:

there used to be a lens type thing you set up in front of a black and white tv to give an r/g/b simulation of color.
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Robert Tables:

@JakeGould, can I reject both the prequels and sequels?
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Rich in Washington:

I don't want to be immersed in the toilet. Ever.
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queems:

this is peak 2019
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geezerette:

haha, yuck!
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herb.nyc:

remember when Archie Bunker had a heated toilet seat idea?
  6:43pm
Mandy:

I thought the first "immersive" toilet experience was a middle school swirly
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Webhamster Henry:

America wants to know: will Koehler have a corresponding Industrial Musical?
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dale:

does it analyze your poo for health reasons?
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herb.nyc:

will the smart toilet check my prostate?
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Robert Tables:

I'll bet that toilet clogs frequently.
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listener james from westwood:

"Hey, Alexa"
"Yes?"
::emits 47-second chili fart::
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Bas NL:

*fart*
  6:44pm
JakeGould:

Immersive reality bus ride to teach you about the Holocaust and civil rights: “They’ll be able to ask Martin Luther King, Jr., all kinds of questions.” www.brooklynpaper.com...
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Michael 98145:

Onan two point oh
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queems:

i want some rando in seattle to hear my toilet songs
  6:44pm
Mandy:

it will actually help you when you've Fallen and Can't Get Up
  6:44pm
liXiviated life:

Can is analyze a stool sample?
Now THAT would be a smart toilet.
  6:45pm
JakeGould:

The smart toilet should compliment your butt.
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listener james from westwood:

What's the smart-toilet equivalent of Clippy? "It looks like you're profoundly constipated. Would you like a recipe for lentil loaf?"
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Rand al'Thor:

Monitor those emissions.
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herb.nyc:

in the end, I just wanna learn French while on the toilet!
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Michael 98145:

i was wondering why Amazon was talking about thousands of more amazonians...
  6:45pm
melinda:

Does anyone remember how in the early 90s or so there were trend watchers (or maybe just a few academics) who thought regular fiction and movies would become interactive (kind of like this Bandersnatch thing) because the youngsters would demand interactivity over passivity?
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Webhamster Henry:

Time to listen to "We're All Bozos On This Bus".
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annie:

the people i cat-sit for got a huge new teevee... and it has a mike so you can speak things at it.. i turned it off
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queems:

my favorite brunch place in montclair has a fancy toilet and it is a joy
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chresti:

HAHAHA
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Bas NL:

Could toilet sounds act as unique passwords?
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listener james from westwood:

Can the smart toilet play "My Bathroom" from that one industrial opera?
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JakeGould:

“Lord Vader approaches…” *The Imperial March plays as the toilet rotates into position*
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herb.nyc:

@queems - name of Montclair place, plz? I wanna ask my friend about it.
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geezerette:

Just how stupid are we expected to be?
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chresti:

If it cleans the toilet...
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queems:

@herb the corner on grove street
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Sean d:

Crepe
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tim from champaign:

Ken - will a smart toilet be budgeted for during the next marathon?
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JakeGould:

@melinda: Yeah, I remember that. And they are kind of right since alternate reality games are a big deal nowadays.
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Rich in Washington:

Don't forget to let the air out of your shoes, Webmaster Henry!
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dale:

an ideal toilet would massage your neck and serve you donuts while you do your business.
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Registered Listener:

I'm pretty sure Amazon is actually looking to satire for idea at this point. Adult swim posted the smart pipe vid years ago. https://youtu.be/DJklHwoYgBQ
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queems:

to be clear, it is called the corner and it is on grove street
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Webhamster Henry:

Two factor authentication from a toilet ... Huh, huh.
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geezerette:

Listener James, hahaaa!
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annie:

i really love this show
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herb.nyc:

@queems - thanks. a smart bathroom was on mercer street in soho. it had glass walls but when the stall door shut, the glass feature was gone. or something like that. the restaurant is no longer there.
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queems:

@herb i think i know that bathroom!!
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Michael 98145:

{ Joe B played a track today "I'll Play The Fool" by Cliff Westfall. It should be our new national anthem. }
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Beast of Boonton:

The Night Bird
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Jeff Moore:

...the nightBIRD. The robot DJ is the nightOWL.
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Webhamster Henry:

Owlsun makes up some pretty good poems.
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liXiviated life:

Alison Steel?
I’m tuning in tonight.
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JakeGould:

And I just discovered this… “Blockchain for Babies” smile.amazon.com...
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Vanessa bikes:

Happy new year Ken and Mark! what will they come up with this year??
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Bas NL:

A Microsoft toilet seat.. hmmmm!
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JakeGould:

Blue flush of death.
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Webhamster Henry:

Here's Alison Steele doing a PSA for ROTC:
jhhl.net...
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JakeGould:

LASERDISC!!! NOT A CD!!!
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chresti:

Owlsun is pretty cute
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queems:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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kevlicki:

Bummer I was occupied and have to catch up on the archive
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Vanessa bikes:

Oh I love the idea of interactive- remember Choose Your Own Adventure? too bad it was terrible - also love Black Mirror, but still waiting for the nightmares to go away before I watch this season.
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liXiviated life:

Love the Myst games
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JakeGould:

R2-D2 is all about number 2.
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clippy!:

bran muffins for all!
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geezerette:

There's a sequence in which the fireman's wife is too wrapped up in her interactive soap opera to interact with her husband.
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Tommy in Neversink:

IN Fahrenheit 451-Montag's wife does this interactive game with the big TV
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Beast of Boonton:

Smart toilet says: Need a Feenamint Ken?
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herb.nyc:

maybe if you take too long in the toilet it'll tell you "stop trying so hard, just relax".
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Robert Tables:

Myst and its sequels had pretty good music.
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yippie:

I call toilet a magic chair
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annie:

F-451 did have the big screens that observed the citizens. Bradbury also used interactive screens in the short story about the lions and the over=protective parents who wre eventually eaten by the lions
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Universal Rundle:

Thou shall have No Urinal before me - Smart or otherwise
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dale:

a rotating toilet would be a floor seal to 3 inch waste pipe nightmare.
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geezerette:

Also, look up Grahame Weinbrun.(sp?)
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chresti:

Plungey is a good name for the toilet
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yippie:

MC
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Michael 98145:

@dale, as if plumbing isn't nightmare enough ...
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dale:

wasn't a.i. the one where the aliens come and make him a real living boy? in a destroyed flooded earth?
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BigCat:

how about robot on robot sex?
just asking for a friend...
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Webhamster Henry:

@Annie yes - the Veldt in The Illustrated Man.
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ultradamno:

The Adult Swim show NTSF SD SUV had an ep with an anti-robot group that tortured an undercover robot infiltrator
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Michael 98145:

thanks for another inspiring show !
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northguineahills:

Thanks Mark and Ken!
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Tommy in Neversink:

I'm for robot on robot sex as long as it's consensual
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queems:

thanks gentlemen!
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yippie:

Pinocchio on Pinocchio
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herb.nyc:

I often see pre-k kids wearing yellow vests, at the playground. they rock!
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Rand al'Thor:

Great show.
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JakeGould:

Does everyone here know the Siri trick? Ask Siri “What is 1 trillion to the 10th power.” Sit back and enjoy!
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BigCat:

I consent, if that counts :)
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geezerette:

Great show,Mark & Ken & everyone!
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listener james from westwood:

Thanks, Techlings!
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dale:

good convo there. thanks!
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & Ken!
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Webhamster Henry:

Thanks for the show, Ken & Mark!
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chresti:

Thanks!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Good conversation tonight. Have a great week -
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