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Favoriting November 12, 2018: M.T. Anderson predicted the future in his novel "Feed"

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This week: M.T. Anderson, author of Feed

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• Twitter: @_MTAnderson

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The Assassination of Brangwain Spurge

Recent News

60 Minutes on Facebook & Google and their surveillance model (see also the transcript)

• From PBS Frontline: The Facebook Dilemma: Rand Waltzman talks about the real-world effects of "mass manipulation."

HQ2... and 3: Scott Galloway (Nov 9) calls Amazon HQ2 a "con": "Amazon’s HQ2 was over before it started. DC and NYC were always the winners... The Amazon HQ2 process was not transparent, but illuminating: Mr. Bezos and his board lack character and code."

Google Plans Large New York City Expansion (WSJ, Nov 7): "Google is nearing a deal to buy or lease a planned 1.3 million-square-foot office building at St. John’s Terminal in the city’s West Village neighborhood."

Alarm over talks to implant UK employees with microchips (Guardian, Nov 11): "Biohax of Sweden provides human chip implants the size of a grain of rice... [and] is in discussions with several British legal and financial firms about fitting their employees with microchips."

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Artist Track Album Label Images Approx. start time
  M.T. Anderson novel "Feed" describes a dystopian future where Americans walk around constantly distracted by digital advertising and social-media messages. Sound familiar?
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting Machinarium Soundtrack  No label 
  Mark's intro      
  Interview with M.T. Anderson      
0:21:44 (Pop-up)
Mudboy  Swamp Things   Favoriting Hungry Ghosts! These Songs Are Doors (Volume: V)  Digitalis     
  Uncanny Valley      
0:39:08 (Pop-up)
  Your comments      
0:45:10 (Pop-up)
Happy Prescriptions  Feed   Favoriting Lights EP  No label 
0:53:40 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techtarishioners!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm queems:

hey folks
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm listener james from westwood:

How do, Mark and all!!
Avatar 6:02pm TDK60:

Hey there, techno-skeptic radio persons.
  6:02pm Roland from Australia:

Here as usual. Thanks in anticipation.
Avatar 6:03pm TDK60:

ultradamno, you really come up with those; I was tryin' to think of something.
Avatar 🤖 6:03pm Bas NL:

Mark & Techtonitorians!
  6:04pm Zetti:

For anyone who missed the Edward Snowden Interview 11/7/18... www.haaretz.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm Webhamster Henry:

I like past futurism as now experienced in the future! That's where we are going to spend the rest of our lives. <tm Criswell>
  6:05pm melinda:

Hi everyone!
  6:06pm Zetti:

Oops. I'll try to find another link..
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm chresti:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm Aitch:

Also from Australia, love the show.
  6:06pm Coleusound:

I love listening to Mark at the gym!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm queems:

i need a big mama t shirt
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm ultradamno:

But can the frog play an instrument like Moondog?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm Ken From Hyde Park:

So close to having a techtoad as mascot!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm Webhamster Henry:

I just saw Escape From New York, set in the Future (1997), and one of the plot points is that Snake Plisskin gets a pair of exploding, dissolving RFID-like devices injected in his head.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm ultradamno:

"Surveillance Capitalism" there's a phrase to put chills down your spine.
  6:16pm melinda:

I heard in an interview recently that Jair Bolsonaro illegally paid companies to spread fake news through What's App and it helped him win. Grim.
Avatar 6:17pm TDK60:

Why does that corp. need a 2nd office? growth?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Ken From Hyde Park:

The irritating part of the PBS doc was Facebook's response. They basically shrugged their shoulders at every turn and said they planned to "do better" in the future.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm Ken From Hyde Park:

More company for queems on the 7 train each morning!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm ultradamno:

"We'll do better in the future" is the new "fuck you".
Avatar 6:21pm TDK60:

West Village? Ha. That'll be so quaint.
  6:22pm Robert Tables:

@Ken, ultradamno: Facebook's responses annoyed me as well.

Mr. Waltzman's interview was my favorite part of that first hour. I'm still planning to watch hour 2.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm chresti:

Los Angeles is considered too expensive for Amazon workers
  6:23pm bore:

you're going to have to add Disney to your tech corporations list soon
Avatar 6:24pm geezerette:

Goodbye freedom, nice knowing you.
Avatar 6:25pm TDK60:

..gosh, could that happen?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm coelacanth∅:

this doesn't sound like a novel.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm ultradamno:

Future, you say?
  6:25pm Coleusound:

naaah that'll never happen... sent from mobile
Avatar 6:27pm βrian:

Remember back when the future was utopian?
  6:27pm herb.nyc:

FEED novel? I read a book review 3,4 wks ago of a dystopian bk and it said people were getting nutrition from the glare of a computer screen (or something like that). Scary. Same book?
  6:28pm Serpent Strike:

Hmmm..... The future will likely be less utopian and more dystopian, the way that all these link nyc kiosks keep popping up around New York city.
  6:28pm Coleusound:

omg don't give them ideas
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm coelacanth∅:

okay it's a novel! interesting idea.
Avatar 6:28pm geezerette:

Brian, let's go back!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm Ken From Hyde Park:

"The Comprehensive Guide to Quitting Google": www.lifehacker.com...
  6:29pm Serpent Strike:

Avatar 6:30pm geezerette:

Please, someone, convince me the game's not over.
  6:30pm P-90:

Pretty good for 2002. Then again, it does sound like it derives from a cyberpunk tradition that goes all the way back, past Gibson, past Brunner, to the 1967 movie "The President's Analyst"...
  6:30pm Serpent Strike:

Better utopian than dystopian
  6:30pm Serpent Strike:

The moon does not suck
Avatar 6:30pm TDK60:

Just in the last 4 or 5 years, many folks I encounter round town seem like brainwashed zombies, almost; face in a screen.
Avatar 6:31pm βrian:

Oh, no! Not reference as a verb!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm ultradamno:

I think utopian at this point is a novel where a few people survive to see 2070
  6:32pm Serpent Strike:

Yep. Today I saw 19/29 people on my way to school that were on their phone or electronic. They are like zombies that post on social media
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm northguineahills:

Violet? a reboot of the Boxcar Children?
Avatar 6:33pm geezerette:

Data is not information. It's static.
  6:33pm Serpent Strike:

For proof that the moon does not suck, read What If? by Randal Munroe
  6:33pm Coleusound:

is there clockwork orange slang in this book? this is important to me in my distopic content
  Swag For Life Member 6:33pm paulo:

speaking of seeing the future: Jenifer government -
Avatar 6:34pm Fox:

There's social cost to not having FB as a forty-something. My exbf cancelled his fb, and he never gets invited to ANY social events whatsoever. That's how all the invitations go out these days. I know a number of people who keep an account just so they can stay connected to their social lives.
Avatar 6:35pm βrian:

@geezerette: Unless you get your bits flipped. That's no fun.
Avatar 6:36pm geezerette:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm northguineahills:

@Fox: True, I only have a handful of friends in my new town, and the once a week when I check FB is when I find invites for gallery openings/concerts/dance parties happen (early 40s).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm ultradamno:

Kabletown! www.vanityfair.com...
Avatar 6:41pm geezerette:

Feeding on streams like fish feed on plastic.
Avatar 6:42pm βrian:

Why is there no anonymizing interface to FB?

Ach, forget I asked.
Avatar 6:43pm TDK60:

I don't knock communication; being manipulated tecno-socially-politically, I do.
Avatar 6:44pm geezerette:

I used to read WIRED with a mixture of dread and fascination.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm queems:

you can't just have a fake ass moon
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm listener james from westwood:

That's no moon . . .
Avatar 6:47pm βrian:

Why didn't Neil plant a trademark claim flag when he had the chance??
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm Tommy in Neversink:

I too have been to Chengdu
  6:47pm gw:

I am so scared ! Please stop !
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm coelacanth∅:

2 moons for gooble
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm Webhamster Henry:

It's going to be built on the empty side fo the flat Earth.
  6:48pm gw:

No ! Not bio hax!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm queems:

i feel like i need to meditate to this segment
Avatar 6:48pm TDK60:

..have there been good books looking into this chip stuff?
Avatar 6:49pm βrian:

So, wait. You implant the chip every day, then remove it 8 hours later ...?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm ultradamno:

If we don't have an artificial sky what will they display the images of the tributes that have died over the course of the day on?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm Webhamster Henry:

More Uncanny Valley: lyrebird.ai is getting somewhat better at voice synthesis.
  6:49pm SerpentStrike:

It does not
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm northguineahills:

They've been talking about solar reflection geocenthric satellites to help arctic communities to have more sunlight during the winter, for over a decade now...
Avatar 6:50pm geezerette:

I like chocolate chips, potato chips.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm coelacanth:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm Webhamster Henry:

@geezerette: The game is going to go into extra innings.
Avatar 6:52pm geezerette:

Mark, you're not causing the despair.

Hahaha, thanks guys! :)
  6:52pm SerpentStrike:

Go disney!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm northguineahills:

@coel: Is that pronounced like Sun O)))
Avatar 6:54pm Neckbard:

Well, any sociality so lazily and impersonally transacted is not worth it.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm chresti:

What I see are stressed out people that share houses/apartments with 4 or 5 people while working 10 hr+ days
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm coelacanth∅:

ngh @6.50 and the bonus is it'll help to melt those damned ice caps too
Avatar 6:56pm TDK60:

Too bad about Free Music Archive shutting down...no $.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm chresti:

Why can't these all powerful entities do something helpful?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm coelacanth∅:

ngh, g∅∅ble... that's pronounced like sun o))) !
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm ultradamno:

I guess that means we're losing the Listening Party as well, that sucks
Avatar 🤖 6:57pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & M.T.!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm melinda:

@Neckbard I don't agree, it really depends on one's circumstances. Social contact, even through social media, is a health necessity.
Avatar 6:58pm TDK60:

chresti: I see that too, folks on the train exhausted, stressed. the working class.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm northguineahills:

what Bas said! (safe just to say that always).
Avatar 6:59pm βrian:

If you feel you need to uee FB, it might help to, at least, implore your friends to help you find a way out.
Avatar 6:59pm geezerette:

Thanks, Mark! (ouch)
Avatar 6:59pm TDK60:

gracias Mark and technots.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm chresti:

Mucho Thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:03pm Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everybody! Appreciate the good discussion this evening.
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