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Favoriting November 12, 2018: M.T. Anderson predicted the future in his novel "Feed"

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This week: M.T. Anderson, author of Feed

Links to M.T.'s work:

• Twitter: @_MTAnderson

Wikipedia entry

Feed

The Assassination of Brangwain Spurge

Recent News

60 Minutes on Facebook & Google and their surveillance model (see also the transcript)

• From PBS Frontline: The Facebook Dilemma: Rand Waltzman talks about the real-world effects of "mass manipulation."

HQ2... and 3: Scott Galloway (Nov 9) calls Amazon HQ2 a "con": "Amazon’s HQ2 was over before it started. DC and NYC were always the winners... The Amazon HQ2 process was not transparent, but illuminating: Mr. Bezos and his board lack character and code."

Google Plans Large New York City Expansion (WSJ, Nov 7): "Google is nearing a deal to buy or lease a planned 1.3 million-square-foot office building at St. John’s Terminal in the city’s West Village neighborhood."

Alarm over talks to implant UK employees with microchips (Guardian, Nov 11): "Biohax of Sweden provides human chip implants the size of a grain of rice... [and] is in discussions with several British legal and financial firms about fitting their employees with microchips."



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Artist Track Album Label Images Approx. start time
  M.T. Anderson novel "Feed" describes a dystopian future where Americans walk around constantly distracted by digital advertising and social-media messages. Sound familiar?
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting Machinarium Soundtrack  No label 
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  Mark's intro      
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  Interview with M.T. Anderson      
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0:21:44 (Pop-up)
Mudboy  Swamp Things   Favoriting Hungry Ghosts! These Songs Are Doors (Volume: V)  Digitalis     
  Uncanny Valley      
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0:39:08 (Pop-up)
  Your comments      
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0:45:10 (Pop-up)
Happy Prescriptions  Feed   Favoriting Lights EP  No label 
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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techtarishioners!
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queems:

hey folks
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listener james from westwood:

How do, Mark and all!!
Avatar 6:02pm
TDK60:

Hey there, techno-skeptic radio persons.
  6:02pm
Roland from Australia:

Here as usual. Thanks in anticipation.
Avatar 6:03pm
TDK60:

ultradamno, you really come up with those; I was tryin' to think of something.
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Bas NL:

Mark & Techtonitorians!
  6:04pm
Zetti:

For anyone who missed the Edward Snowden Interview 11/7/18... www.haaretz.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Webhamster Henry:

I like past futurism as now experienced in the future! That's where we are going to spend the rest of our lives. <tm Criswell>
  6:05pm
melinda:

Hi everyone!
  6:06pm
Zetti:

Oops. I'll try to find another link..
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chresti:

hello!
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Aitch:

Also from Australia, love the show.
  6:06pm
Coleusound:

I love listening to Mark at the gym!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
queems:

i need a big mama t shirt
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
ultradamno:

But can the frog play an instrument like Moondog?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

So close to having a techtoad as mascot!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
Webhamster Henry:

I just saw Escape From New York, set in the Future (1997), and one of the plot points is that Snake Plisskin gets a pair of exploding, dissolving RFID-like devices injected in his head.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
ultradamno:

"Surveillance Capitalism" there's a phrase to put chills down your spine.
  6:16pm
melinda:

I heard in an interview recently that Jair Bolsonaro illegally paid companies to spread fake news through What's App and it helped him win. Grim.
Avatar 6:17pm
TDK60:

Why does that corp. need a 2nd office? growth?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

The irritating part of the PBS doc was Facebook's response. They basically shrugged their shoulders at every turn and said they planned to "do better" in the future.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

More company for queems on the 7 train each morning!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
ultradamno:

"We'll do better in the future" is the new "fuck you".
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TDK60:

West Village? Ha. That'll be so quaint.
  6:22pm
Robert Tables:

@Ken, ultradamno: Facebook's responses annoyed me as well.

Mr. Waltzman's interview was my favorite part of that first hour. I'm still planning to watch hour 2.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
chresti:

Los Angeles is considered too expensive for Amazon workers
  6:23pm
bore:

you're going to have to add Disney to your tech corporations list soon
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geezerette:

Goodbye freedom, nice knowing you.
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TDK60:

..gosh, could that happen?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
coelacanth∅:

this doesn't sound like a novel.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
ultradamno:

Future, you say?
  6:25pm
Coleusound:

naaah that'll never happen... sent from mobile
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βrian:

Remember back when the future was utopian?
  6:27pm
herb.nyc:

FEED novel? I read a book review 3,4 wks ago of a dystopian bk and it said people were getting nutrition from the glare of a computer screen (or something like that). Scary. Same book?
  6:28pm
Serpent Strike:

Hmmm..... The future will likely be less utopian and more dystopian, the way that all these link nyc kiosks keep popping up around New York city.
  6:28pm
Coleusound:

omg don't give them ideas
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coelacanth∅:

okay it's a novel! interesting idea.
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geezerette:

Brian, let's go back!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

"The Comprehensive Guide to Quitting Google": www.lifehacker.com...
  6:29pm
Serpent Strike:

#Surveillance
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geezerette:

Please, someone, convince me the game's not over.
  6:30pm
P-90:

Pretty good for 2002. Then again, it does sound like it derives from a cyberpunk tradition that goes all the way back, past Gibson, past Brunner, to the 1967 movie "The President's Analyst"...
  6:30pm
Serpent Strike:

Better utopian than dystopian
  6:30pm
Serpent Strike:

The moon does not suck
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TDK60:

Just in the last 4 or 5 years, many folks I encounter round town seem like brainwashed zombies, almost; face in a screen.
Avatar 6:31pm
βrian:

Oh, no! Not reference as a verb!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
ultradamno:

I think utopian at this point is a novel where a few people survive to see 2070
  6:32pm
Serpent Strike:

Yep. Today I saw 19/29 people on my way to school that were on their phone or electronic. They are like zombies that post on social media
Avatar 6:32pm
northguineahills:

Violet? a reboot of the Boxcar Children?
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geezerette:

Data is not information. It's static.
  6:33pm
Serpent Strike:

For proof that the moon does not suck, read What If? by Randal Munroe
  6:33pm
Coleusound:

is there clockwork orange slang in this book? this is important to me in my distopic content
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paulo:

speaking of seeing the future: Jenifer government -
www.amazon.com...
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Fox:

There's social cost to not having FB as a forty-something. My exbf cancelled his fb, and he never gets invited to ANY social events whatsoever. That's how all the invitations go out these days. I know a number of people who keep an account just so they can stay connected to their social lives.
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βrian:

@geezerette: Unless you get your bits flipped. That's no fun.
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geezerette:

sigh...
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northguineahills:

@Fox: True, I only have a handful of friends in my new town, and the once a week when I check FB is when I find invites for gallery openings/concerts/dance parties happen (early 40s).
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm
ultradamno:

Kabletown! www.vanityfair.com...
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geezerette:

Feeding on streams like fish feed on plastic.
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βrian:

Why is there no anonymizing interface to FB?

Ach, forget I asked.
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TDK60:

I don't knock communication; being manipulated tecno-socially-politically, I do.
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geezerette:

I used to read WIRED with a mixture of dread and fascination.
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queems:

you can't just have a fake ass moon
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listener james from westwood:

That's no moon . . .
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βrian:

Why didn't Neil plant a trademark claim flag when he had the chance??
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Tommy in Neversink:

I too have been to Chengdu
  6:47pm
gw:

I am so scared ! Please stop !
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
coelacanth∅:

2 moons for gooble
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Webhamster Henry:

It's going to be built on the empty side fo the flat Earth.
  6:48pm
gw:

No ! Not bio hax!
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queems:

i feel like i need to meditate to this segment
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TDK60:

..have there been good books looking into this chip stuff?
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βrian:

So, wait. You implant the chip every day, then remove it 8 hours later ...?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
ultradamno:

If we don't have an artificial sky what will they display the images of the tributes that have died over the course of the day on?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
Webhamster Henry:

More Uncanny Valley: lyrebird.ai is getting somewhat better at voice synthesis.
  6:49pm
SerpentStrike:

It does not
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northguineahills:

They've been talking about solar reflection geocenthric satellites to help arctic communities to have more sunlight during the winter, for over a decade now...
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geezerette:

I like chocolate chips, potato chips.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
coelacanth:

(g☾☽gle)
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Webhamster Henry:

@geezerette: The game is going to go into extra innings.
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geezerette:

Mark, you're not causing the despair.

Hahaha, thanks guys! :)
  6:52pm
SerpentStrike:

Go disney!
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northguineahills:

@coel: Is that pronounced like Sun O)))
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Neckbard:

Well, any sociality so lazily and impersonally transacted is not worth it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
chresti:

What I see are stressed out people that share houses/apartments with 4 or 5 people while working 10 hr+ days
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
coelacanth∅:

ngh @6.50 and the bonus is it'll help to melt those damned ice caps too
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TDK60:

Too bad about Free Music Archive shutting down...no $.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
chresti:

Why can't these all powerful entities do something helpful?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
coelacanth∅:

ngh, g∅∅ble... that's pronounced like sun o))) !
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
ultradamno:

I guess that means we're losing the Listening Party as well, that sucks
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & M.T.!
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melinda:

@Neckbard I don't agree, it really depends on one's circumstances. Social contact, even through social media, is a health necessity.
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TDK60:

chresti: I see that too, folks on the train exhausted, stressed. the working class.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark!
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northguineahills:

what Bas said! (safe just to say that always).
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βrian:

If you feel you need to uee FB, it might help to, at least, implore your friends to help you find a way out.
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geezerette:

Thanks, Mark! (ouch)
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TDK60:

gracias Mark and technots.
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chresti:

Mucho Thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:03pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everybody! Appreciate the good discussion this evening.
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