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Options April 18, 2022: Why you should be worried about data brokers

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Today: Why you should be worried about data brokers

First, on Twitter and Elon Musk:

• Takeover bid of Twitter met with "poison pill" defense.

Elon Musk Is Fighting for Attention, Not Free Speech (Renee DiResta in the Atlantic, April 14, 2022): "Twitter serves less as a town square than as a gladiatorial arena. It’s where competitors kill off one another while the crowd cheers, where teams compete in winner-take-all contests, where unending ideological demolition derbies go in circles." (Responding to Elon Musk's comment that Twitter is “the de facto public town square.”)

• I'm stepping away for awhile.

On data brokers

• Credit bureaus: Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion

Data Brokers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO, April 10, 2022)

Spokeo.com, PeopleSmart.com, FamilyTreeNow.com, MyLife.com, Whitepages.com, Intelius.com - see more resources on Mark's Good Reports site

It's not just data brokers

• Intuit (Turbo Tax) and H&R Block: You agreed to what? Tax sites want your data for more than filing. (by Geoffrey Fowler, Washington Post, April 12, 2022): revealing "a little-discussed evolution of the tax-prep software industry from mere processors of returns to profiteers of personal data. It’s the Facebook-ization of personal finance."

• Trackers: Who Tracks You When You Read the News? (Bill Fitzgerald, March 8, 2022): "Most people have never heard of the sites that track us when we read the news — and even if we have heard of them, we might not know that they are in the tracking business."

"As one example, Beeswax is used on 24 of the 30 sites in this scan. ... Despite people having no knowledge of Beeswax, the company claims the right to collect a lot of information about us."

"...To summarize: Beeswax can collect your precise location — so, if you’re reading The Washington Post or The Wall Street Journal while sitting at your kitchen table, Beeswax’s privacy policy appears to specify that they can collect and store that information. With that location in hand, Beeswax’s privacy policy states that they can get more data from unnamed third party companies about you. And, if you have more than one device (say, a phone, a connected speaker, and a computer), Beeswax’s privacy policy says it can actively tie all of these devices to you."

• Patient-community and health sites: Health Sites Let Ads Track Visitors Without Telling Them (Wired, Feb 6, 2022): "researchers found that several genetic-testing and digital-medicine companies had shared customer information with Facebook for ad targeting. ... when it comes to vulnerable communities like patients and community organizers, there's a pressing need for clear policies and controls."

• Amazon employees: Amazon's Dark Secret: It Has Failed to Protect Your Data (Wired, Nov 18, 2021): "According to internal documents reviewed by Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting and WIRED, Amazon's vast empire of customer data—its metastasizing record of what you search for, what you buy, what shows you watch, what pills you take, what you say to Alexa, and who's at your front door—had become so sprawling, fragmented, and promiscuously shared within the company that the security division couldn't even map all of it, much less adequately defend its borders. ... Across Amazon, some low-level employees were using their data privileges to snoop on the purchases of celebrities, while others were taking bribes to help shady sellers sabotage competitors' businesses, doctor Amazon's review system, and sell knock-off products to unsuspecting customers."

• Governments: How Democracies Spy on Their Citizens (by Ronan Farrow in the New Yorker, April 25 & May 2, 2022), on "Pegasus, a spyware technology designed by NSO Group, an Israeli firm, which can extract the contents of a phone, giving access to its texts and photographs, or activate its camera and microphone to provide real-time surveillance—exposing, say, confidential meetings. ... there is evidence that Pegasus is being used in at least forty-five countries, and it and similar tools have been purchased by law-enforcement agencies in the United States and across Europe."

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Listener comments!

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 4:33pm Handy Haversack:

I might have to be on a call early in the show, so I'll leave these here for now, though Mark might have already seen them:

Facebook and disinformation in Africa: www.theguardian.com...

Instagram and sexualized images of children: www.theguardian.com...

Sigh.

But patting myself on the Techtonic back: I *finally* Got. Off. Google!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm Handy Haversack:

And the call happened early! Here with you, Mark and all the Techyon Drives! Hope broadcasting from the Athletic Closet is treating you OK, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonatapanickers In Year Zero!
Avatar 🤖 6:01pm Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi Handy, ultradamno, all!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm ultradamno:

Hiya Bas!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm StringOFperils:

Data broker?! Damn near replaced her.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm tim from washington:

Hi Mark! Hi everybody!
  6:04pm THX1138:

I'm listening in the future.
  6:04pm David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Handy Haversack:

Hey, ultradamno, Bas, SOfp, tim, everyone!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm Webhamster Henry:

Well this is going to be fun!
  6:05pm Glistener MW:

evening, Mark, Handy & all! I haven’t been able to listen to TT live since the marathon
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm ultradamno:

Hey Handy! DiL!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm tim from washington:

I really can't handle late night talk show types but John Oliver seems alright.
Avatar 6:05pm Claire from Montclair:

I wondered if John Oliver inspired you.
  6:06pm Glistener MW:

I love the episodes where Lorebroker tries to convince the crew that he’s actually Lt Databroker
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm Handy Haversack:

John Oliver was on Community, which was a real peak for any career. Haven't seen him do anything as brilliant since!

Hey, Webhamster H, G MW!

David, how turns, me sprocket?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm 🇺🇦 Ike 🇺🇦:

HBO puts portions of Last Week Tonight for free up on You... uh... um, never mind LOL
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm StringOFperils:

Hi Handy and all. Nice data! **winks **wolf-whistles
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm Webhamster Henry:

Oliver's research is good, he gets pretty silly , sometimes so over the top he comes up on the other side.
  6:06pm yippie:

my friend josh was a writer on john oliver on hbo
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm chris in the redwoods:

hello, Mark and techtonistas. oh boy, seems like i should consume some relaxant for this show...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm Will the Sound Guy:

Hi Mark and all!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm Webhamster Henry:

Hey Chatboarders! Let's pool our dough and buy Twitter ourselves!
  6:07pm David in London:

Handles, I’m on holiday me old china, so all is well.
Ultradamno, ahoy!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm Handy Haversack:

Excellent, David. Very jealous!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm tim from washington:

Unpredictable and creating spectacles? Hmmm. sounds like a well worn method for many unsavory characters in this day and age.
  6:08pm Glistener MW:

melt MySpace! fricassée Friendster!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm Handy Haversack:

(David: Runza --> pocket --> sprocket. How was that?)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm joe mulligan:

someone suggested Musk would buy twitter to allow trump to get back on it, but personally I think a play with Desantis would be a smarter move for Musk. side note I do not like any of the three don't @me
Avatar 🤖 6:10pm Bas NL:

Couldn't we pool and buy the WFMU comments board? To secure our illustrious comments?
Avatar 6:10pm Claire from Montclair:

I deactivated FB, IG, and Twitter in the beginning of the year and I never looked back. Thanks for the inspiration!
Avatar 6:10pm Fredericks:

Destroy truth and rule by spectacle.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm chris in the redwoods:

i learned the other day i'm a few degrees of separation away from one of twitter's in house counselors (lawyers) yeesh, i feel icky about that.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm chresti:

Hi Mark and techlanders!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm StringOFperils:

Musk controlling-share. Another layer of obfuscation. They should then call it DITHER.
  6:11pm David in London:

Chrestikins! Chris, Tim!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Will the Sound Guy:

Hi Handy, ultradamno, Bas, James, StringOFperils, tim, THX1138, David, Webhamster Harry, Glistener MW, Claire, Ike, yippie chris, joe, Fredericks, chresti, and anyone I missed!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Handy Haversack:

It has to be more affordable, Bas. You can buy all of my comments for two slices of pizza and a cheap American lager!

Good on you, Claire!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm ultradamno:

The free speech absolutist whose wife launches DDOS attack on websites she doesn't like...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm joe mulligan:

I loved twitter years ago when it still was a healthy water-cooler party.. 2007-2010. then like any nice kegger the dooshes and cops show up
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm chris in the redwoods:

Hey, David!
Hey, Will!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm ultradamno:

HI Will!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm Handy Haversack:

Hey, Will!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark and tweety-birds!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm tim from washington:

DiL! DiL! DiL!
  6:13pm Sam:

Elon’s a good guy. I’m glad he’ll be in charge, not like it actually matters to me one iota. Twitter will probably be a horrific shitshow no matter who runs it, so why not a cool guy like Elon. Healthy adults should have better things to do anyway. Kill your computer and your phone.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm Webhamster Henry:

Why to be on Twitter: @ThreatNotation
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm dave miss:

Ibid to Wiil the Sound guy’s comment
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm ultradamno:

It has been a year the twitter brought in an algorithm that demanded people rethink their potentially inflammatory posts (usually inappropriately, just off keywords) while tailoring their trending topics to things intended to draw you into a flame war...
Avatar 🤖 6:14pm Bas NL:

Mmm... you got a line there Handy! Pizza & beers for content.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm joe mulligan:

I dunno Sam, I don't like the whole nuke Mars flippant suggestion, he's super smart but I think too volatile
Avatar 6:16pm Claire from Montclair:

The end of this John Oliver episode was epic!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm DjLorraine:

I'm not attracted to Elon Musk due to his shallowness
Love this topic
  6:16pm Sam:

Let’s see if Oliver can get through a full 30 seconds without a dick joke
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm ultradamno:

@joe Made me think of the Mr Show "nuke the moon" sketch"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm Handy Haversack:

dave miss! It's been too long!

I have no social media to quit, and I already barely have time to read, cut my hair, walk for pleasure, plan a trip, renew my passport, train the kittens, clean (er) anything, or really get into railing publicly against social media. Where's the efficiency solution for the angry Luddite?!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm joe mulligan:

hahaha @ultradamno!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm Little Danny:

hello mark hello cookies
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Handy Haversack:

Tony Soprano at the laptop: "I don't wanna mess around with any of them cookie things!"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm joe mulligan:

As someone who has worked deep in the lead-gen ad tech world, I can vouch that it is one of the shadier sides of the paid advertising ecosystem.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm StringOFperils:

The wind seems to howl a bit when I think about a world that gave up reading in order to spend lifetimes on Twitter
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm alanSixº:

hi everybody
  6:19pm Sam:

Tony Soprano made a point of ripping the GPS out of his Jeep.
  6:19pm P-90:

“Cookies were not evil. Originally…”
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm ultradamno:

Volatile? Didn't he bang his head into a Tesla to demonstrate it's safety when questions were raised and then fired the guy who did? Seems like a stable genius...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I like all the messages about cookies when I'm trying to bake actual cookies - www.goldmedalflour.com... 🍪
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Will the Sound Guy:

tasty cookies!!! mmmmmmm
🍪 🥠 🍪 🥠 🍪 🥠 🍪 🥠
Avatar 6:21pm Claire from Montclair:

👋Alan!
  6:21pm Sam:

Real cookies > internet cookies
  6:21pm Sam:

I want apple cookies!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm alanSixº:

hi claire!
  6:23pm Sam:

We’re cookies named after James Cook?
Avatar 6:23pm mespr:

Tracking with cookies predates both Facebook and Google. We called them pixels, they were invisible images. see en.wikipedia.org... Today "pixel" means a slug of javascript that pulls in more scripts and every media page has dozens of these installed from companies from Outbrain to Twitter.
  6:23pm Sam:

I mean Tim Cook?
Avatar 🤖 6:23pm Bas NL:

The WFMU homepage has Google & Twitter trackers embedded...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm StringOFperils:

Cookies were named after your goose is cooked.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm chris in the redwoods:

is this prerecorded? could the recording have been sped up? its getting choppy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm Rich in Washington:

big tech is making bitrate glitches
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm joe mulligan:

don't forget brokers like Axciom.. here's a full chart & list:
privacybee.com...
Avatar 6:25pm Claire from Montclair:

I called apple tech support yesterday and they told me to search google to check my internet connection and I’m sure I made an audible noise of disgust lol
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm Webhamster Henry:

BIG GLITCH IS AFTER MARK!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm ultradamno:

Mr. Fine Wine was having this very issue on Friday
  6:26pm Tom from Stirling:

John Oliver show is good. But, man, he talks really fast.
  6:26pm Sam:

Techtonic meets vocal fry
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm ultradamno:

Whatever you say about him, he does jam pack his show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm mndave:

Yeah, it sounds like 1.25x...
  6:28pm Sam:

I thought we were past Covid. Are you sure this isn’t pre-recorded?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm chris in the redwoods:

ugh, so frustrating. sorry, Mark!
Avatar 6:28pm Fredericks:

What is that music?
Avatar 6:28pm Paul D:

Why is the station on lock down?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm tim from washington:

Musk is using his firing his Glitch Jammer radar at WFMU!
  6:28pm P-90:

John Oliver’s show is brilliant, he swings for the fences every time he steps up to the plate. Every episode is either very very good, or totally excellent. Well worth checking out on Sunday nights. Highest recommendation.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm Webhamster Henry:

This show is going to be a great segue into the ARBitrartium!
  6:28pm Ciggy:

Keep Going
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm joe mulligan:

Sam it's the second lockdown.. couple djs got covid.. plus he's commenting it's live
  6:29pm carrots:

which video game is that? pac man?
  6:29pm Sam:

Zuck and Cook are messing with the feed cuz they don’t like what you’re saying!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm Rich in Washington:

I think the music's Terry Riley's Rainbow In Curved Air, but I was never good at Name That Tune.
  6:29pm Sam:

You’ll never shut Mark up you tech basyards!!
  6:29pm P-90:

Does anyone really believe we’re “past Covid”?
Avatar 6:30pm arb:

are you calling me a good glitch or a bad glitch WH?
Avatar 🤖 6:30pm Bas NL:

I suspect Mark's connection suffers from 'moderation'.
  6:30pm castor:

I wonder if the incoming storm has something to do with it?
  6:30pm yippie:

sometimes the audio speeds up a little to catch up for the seconds lost due to lag
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm Handy Haversack:

arb is the god glitch.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm StringOFperils:

The Wicked Glitch of the West
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm spacecadet:

wait, how can we make a take down request to these sites?
Avatar 6:30pm Claire from Montclair:

Even terrestrial radio is glitching yo
Avatar 6:30pm Fredericks:

There it is again!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm Little Danny:

as someone at 0.75 this is perfect
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm Will the Sound Guy:

Mark, can you type these sites in the chat
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm McGroovey:

The audio sounds choppy, like the sound when you set your audiobook app to play at a too-fast.

And of course, it's cutting out entirely, every few minutes.
  6:31pm P-90:

Is Mark still using that older model Dell desktop?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm ultradamno:

But whatever we do have to say about Twitter, it does have a Gay Ron Desantis account now. Which could be right up there with Devin Nunez's Cow
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm Rich in Washington:

Wasn't a solar flare supposed to slam into us recently?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm spacecadet:

I know this is the opt out for 3P cookies via Oracle: datacloudoptout.oracle.com
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm alanSixº:

at least the glitch isnt making his words and ideas unclear - working through it
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm Webhamster Henry:

I cannot be baited into glitch shaming, not with my past. www.echonyc.com...
  6:32pm Sam:

Trippy, man!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm StringOFperils:

There's a snowstorm outside right now. At least as weird as a solar flare.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm ultradamno:

It's been snowing here too, a day late for The Fall "snow on easter sunday/jesus christ in reverse" references.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm Will the Sound Guy:

Rich, we've been having many CME and solar flare activity as of late
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm ultradamno:

This morning twitter.com...
  6:34pm Ciggy:

Oliver is threatening to expose the congressional's personal info
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm mndave:

I also encourage anyone/everyone to call those 800 numbers from banks/creditors/etc. that sometimes appear at the bottom of the "How We Use Your Data" mailers that you get. It's not always there, but usually it's just a 1 minute phone call that can allow you to release your data from being parroted to third parties.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm PaulRobeson1920:

Warm greetings from Downtown Brooklyn!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm tim from washington:

I just went to spokeo. I must be doing good because my address listed is 3 years old, phone numbers older than 15 years old.
Avatar 6:35pm Fredericks:

Is it Terry Riley?
  6:35pm P-90:

Yes! This requires well-considered legislation. We’re a nation of laws, but these tech revolutions happen much faster than the (already sluggish) legislative process can respond.
  6:35pm Ciggy:

No, Today is tax filing deadline
  6:35pm castor:

I think the drugs are starting to kick in
Avatar 6:36pm Claire from Montclair:

Turn it off and turn it on again!
  6:36pm JJ NY-SC:

No. Today is tax filing day. Friday was Good Friday, a holiday as far as they're concerned.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm spacecadet:

Here's the spokeo opt out link: www.spokeo.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm Will the Sound Guy:

I think the brokers are going for broke trying to silence Mark...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm JM:

I give up
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm StringOFperils:

Both of those tax methods are used in ALL of North America, not just the USA (FYI)
Avatar 6:38pm Fredericks:

Rich: I just got to your comment. Close enough for me.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:38pm BadBob:

Sure hope the archived version is fixed id like to listen to this
  6:38pm castor:

i support making "facebook" etc an insult
  6:39pm P-90:

Maybe finally time to upgrade from your trusty Amiga, Mark…
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm Little Danny:

mark is locked in an unwitting battle with terry riley
Avatar 6:40pm Jeff Moore:

Hmm. One wonders if perhaps you're streaming audio sampled at a different rate than the 44.1k the DAWs are locked at (sample rate, not codec encode bitrate), and some software is doing some sort of incompetent handling of the mismatch instead of the hoped for relatively benign sample rate conversion.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm ultradamno:

A minimalist data attack
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm tim from washington:

@castor - your post was so facebooked!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm chris in the redwoods:

Jeff Moore, weird thing is, it was clear at the outset, then something bad happened...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm PaulRobeson1920:

91.1fm comming in choppy
  6:41pm P-90:

Yep, it sounds like a sample rate issue of some kind
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:42pm Will the Sound Guy:

44.1k and 48k are the most common.. also 24 bit vs 16 bit... can be packets being dropped too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm JM:

Sounds like a cyber attack
  6:42pm castor:

@tim I'll facebook your ass!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm ultradamno:

Facebook your ass sounds like an appointment for a cam session
  6:45pm bleubombersune:

interesting investigation by Citizens Lab (John Scott-Railton et al)- called Catalan Gate - democracies using spyware (Pegasus/Candiru) tracking/hacking their own citizens/politicians for nefarious reasons.
  6:45pm P-90:

“metastasizing data collection” (*shudder*)
  6:45pm ee:

def a cyber attack
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm Little Danny:

dick hyman!
Avatar 🤖 6:45pm Rolando:

I have some odd clicky sounds listening to Tectonic today .. not sure why, on another note, I have been using bits of the independent fediverse which seem to be working reasonably well for my social wants.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm ultradamno:

Is Musk holding people in light sabre jail now? pbs.twimg.com...
Avatar 6:46pm Jeff Moore:

Maybe the audio is being burned onto a CD-R which will then be sent in a time machine back about 15 years so some bit rot could age into it just in time to have started playing it at the beginning of this show!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm BadBob:

Clicky sound and then mark drops off and it goes to some song and then mark fades in... Pretty weird
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Maybe it needs at Cat 6 ethernet cable?
  6:47pm bleubombersune:

Ronan Farrow, just read a brief update of mercenary spyware, using Black Cube
Avatar 6:47pm arb:

should be 44.1
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm Ciggy:

Mark - you have 12 minutes left
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm mndave:

It already sounds better!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm DjLorraine:

Oh no...congress the opposite of progress...con..pro
  6:48pm P-90:

Ronan Farrow rocks! Glad to see him joining the digital surveillance crusade.
  6:48pm Brian:

Is there like synth music coming through ever few seconds for you people too?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm solo mon:

Sounds much better!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm ultradamno:

Well, it does sound like it just cleared up though...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm BadBob:

Yes
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm alanSixº:

seems like checking the bitrate helped - thanks ARB and everyone
  6:49pm P-90:

@Mark: whatever you just fiddled with seems to have fixed the glitch
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm StringOFperils:

Espionage derivatives will save us all. Surveillance futures.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm solo mon:

The music is the board operator covering for when mark cuts out.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm BadBob:

Oic
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm Ken From Hyde Park:

The cat must have messed up the bitrate when it marched across the keyboard an hour ago.
  6:50pm Brian:

Ah - I see. For a second it felt like the hackers trying to prevent Mark from getting the word out!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm solo mon:

Much respect to board op! This is prob v stressful for them.
  6:51pm Brian:

And by hackers I mean - Corporate Tech Giants
Avatar 6:51pm Fredericks:

Hope you're recording this, Mark. Perhaps you can post a cleaner version to the archive.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm alanSixº:

thats me and Arb was giving me pointers to give to Mark as I was connecting her for the next show
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm StringOFperils:

Why did it have to be Pegasus? Why couldn't it be a unicorn? I wanna unicorn!
  6:52pm P-90:

If Pegasus creeps you out, wait until you find out about Palantir.
Avatar 🤖 6:52pm Rolando:

Sound greats now down here in OZ. It is truely terrifying that there is even a thing like Pegasus - "Pegasus is spyware developed by the Israeli cyber-arms company NSO Group that can be covertly installed on mobile phones running most versions of iOS and Android. Pegasus is able to exploit iOS versions up to 14.6, through a zero-click exploit."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm mndave:

@alanSixº Killing it, much appreciated!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm solo mon:

Good job alanSix! And arb!
Avatar 6:52pm mespr:

The reason Germany is at the forefront of privacy laws, is they learned the hard way that seemingly benign data can fall into the wrong hands. Today it's annoying mail arriving at your door. Tomorrow it could be the police who looked up your religious affiliation.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm alanSixº:

Mark persisted and multitasked - he's a cool cat
Avatar 6:53pm Jeff Moore:

So creepy. Pegasus, and (different problem space) Clearview AI, and... and...

Oh, and (fingers crossed): your stream sounds great now!
  6:53pm bobobobob:

Edward Snowden said this a long time ago!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm StringOFperils:

Right of centre governments will always insist that all of these companies remain privatized. They'll never publicly agree to regulate.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm mndave:

as someone whose crazy ex showed up years ago on Easter Sunday at his parents' house (whose address had never been disclosed) this is vital information
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm chris in the redwoods:

how do we get Mark a magic wand? i want him to have one.
Avatar 6:57pm mespr:

There is an effort to make a difference. The functionality of cookies is being siloed. Look up same site cookies. It became the default for most browsers this year. It's a huge problem for many data brokers and advertisers, just not google and facebook, because they own the apps you use.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm BadBob:

Check ebay
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm listener 126464:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm StringOFperils:

Good point. Groundswell refusal of the whole shebang. Thanks Mark.
Avatar 🤖 6:57pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark! Great topic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm Little Danny:

thank you as always mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm chris in the redwoods:

thanks so very much, Mark. (and much thanks as well, to Alan and arb! :)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm PaulRobeson1920:

Our society spends Trillions every year on maintaining nuclear bombs…a sick society
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm chresti:

Thanks Mark!
  6:58pm castor:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm joe mulligan:

In case they are not referenced/being already discussed, here are the largest data brokers (aside from Apple/Google/Amazon)
Acxiom LLC
Epsilon Data Management LLC
Oracle America, Inc.
Equifax Information Services LLC
Experian LLC
CoreLogic
  6:58pm Sam:

The underlying problem is unfettered capitalism. We need to take profit out of the internet and be happy socialists.
  6:58pm P-90:

Thanks Mark. And John Oliver, who reaches his own big audience.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm DjLorraine:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Mark. Somehow, this episode really clicked with me!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Appreciate you sticking through the transmission annoyance. Probably my sub-standard internet service here at home.
Avatar 🤖 6:59pm Rolando:

Fantastic Show Mark, - You have done it again, I so wish and sincerely hope that you will get all the recognition you deserve! THANK YOU.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Will the Sound Guy:

Muse was pretty awesome in concert...

Thank you Mark!!!
Be well everyone!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm joe mulligan:

thanks for the show Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm tim from washington:

Thanks, Mark! You're a champ!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm DjLorraine:

I'd like to see Mark Hurst on John Oliver of visa versa
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm Handy Haversack:

Thank you, Mark! Great episode. And CONGRATS for getting off Twitter.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm DjLorraine:

Viceversa
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm Mark Hurst:

@Handy thanks!
@Djlorraine maybe I could try the 2nd, anyway (getting him on TT) - maybe he's a WFMU fan
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:02pm Mark Hurst:

@Rolando thanks!
@KfHP glad to hear it
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