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Favoriting January 24, 2022: Dave Holmes, creator, "Waiting for Impact" podcast

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Tonight: Dave Holmes, creator and host of the 10-episode "Waiting for Impact" podcast

Links:

Waiting for Impact: A Dave Holmes Passion Project (podcast homepage)

• @DaveHolmes (Twitter)

Dave Holmes writing in Esquire

Party of One: A Memoir in 21 Songs, by Dave Holmes (2016 book)

Motownphilly video, by Boyz II Men (or you can jump to Sudden Impact pointing)

Dog's Eye View - Everything Falls Apart, featuring Peter Stuart

MargaretCho.com

MichaelHearst.com (you can also listen to Mark's interview of Michael on the Jan 1, 2022 Double-Dip Recess)

IRS face recognition program raises hackles (Axios, today, January 24, 2022) - summarizing a Jan 19 post by Brian Krebs: “by the summer of 2022, the only way to log in to irs.gov will be through ID.me, an online identity verification service that requires applicants to submit copies of bills and identity documents, as well as a live video feed of their faces via a mobile device.”

    -> From the Axios story: “ID.me’s terms of service give the company the right to share peoples’ data with police, government and ‘select partners.’”





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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Mark! Techccident Dummies!
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listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark and the Techyon Drives! Techgin needs to be refreshed, but always ready for some Techtonic!

Glad to be here with youse.
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ultradamno:

Mark! Don't be telling Olivia to shut the hell up all the time!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello, Mark and people looking up!
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tak:

ho
  6:02pm
queems:

howdy
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chresti:

Hi Mark and Techtonia!
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chris in the redwoods:

hello, Mark at home. hello, everyone.
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listener james from westwood:

Oh, man, 80s arcade games. I knew all the patterns for Excel.
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Carmichael:

Let's go get the bad guys!
  6:02pm
David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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Handy Haversack:

I want to reiterate how inspiring and necessary I found Mark's passion and emotion in last week's show, and how desperately important it is to shock people into facing the price paid in blood and misery for mere convenience.

This show is a mitzvah.

Speaking of, evening, David!
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tim from washington:

Hi Mark! Super happy to be here for my first Techtonic of 2022!
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Ciggy:

✌ ✌ ✌
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chris in the redwoods:

well said, Handy.
  6:04pm
Old Dave:

No better use of an hour than listening to and learning from this show
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MarciB:

Last week's show was epic and really ground-breaking.
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chris in the redwoods:

well writ?
hey, David!
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Rolando:

My heart broke last week listening to Mark and Darren.
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Niall:

It was a good and important show last week, Mark.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

If you're on the right side of the paywall, there was a NY Times article about the /Don't Look Up/ movie yesterday. www.nytimes.com...
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PaulRobeson1920:

Warm greetings from Woodside Queens! Hello one & all!!

Lady Liberty flys high @WFMU!
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Franco Twinkie:

I had a contact melt down Mark, which surprised me!
  6:06pm
Sam:

I never would have taken that as a meltdown. That was passion and compassion. Mark’s reaction is the normal one.
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coelacanth∅:

5G. COMPLY.
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DjLorraine:

Good evening proper citizens
  6:07pm
queems:

i missed last week :/
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Handy Haversack:

WORD, Sam.
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coelacanth∅:

"meltdown" is exactly the term i thought before Marc just used it!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! hello Markees!
  6:08pm
Marie:

What China is doing to the Uighers is epically horrible. The more I learn about China, the worse it gets. But, hey, the truth allows us to take good actions
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coelacanth∅:

...reminded me of Gary Null losing it (but with much less sanity) over the air on wbai in the 90s.
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tim from washington:

I have a dumb ass luddite question. What is 5G and why does it mess with airplanes? I've heard of 4G but I have absolutely no idea what it is.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I'd like people to stop apologizing for not being sociopaths & reacting with normal human emotions.
  6:09pm
David in London:

Handy, chris, ultradamno, tim, Coela, Ken et al. Salutations good people.
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coelacanth∅:

(Null with less sanity)
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chresti:

5 grand?
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tim from washington:

Hey DiL!
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ultradamno:

Hiya DiL!
  6:10pm
David in London:

Bas, Rev D.
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P-90:

Have not heard of this podcast. Now I have.
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Blobs:

Oh my God it's MTV VJ Dave Holmes... Hell yeah.
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Bas NL:

Hi David!
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Handy Haversack:

tim, I don't have a cell phone, so I'm not expert, but the "G" just means "generation," I think and has no actual technical meaning. It's just the latest cell network with supposedly a higher bandwidth since that's the progression of the tech.

And then I guess it also has a magical property to slide seamlessly into fake conspiracy theories that right-wing money PACs create so that elections stay stupid.
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chris in the redwoods:

tim, what i have heard is the 5G (a radio signal) is at or near the same frequency as some safety features on modern aircraft. so, proximity to those 5G signals could cause interference with the safety systems.
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Mark Hurst:

Hi everyone, thanks for joining!
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coelacanth∅:

hey David (iL)

tim i'm no expert but it apparently is on the same frequencies as planes' navigational devices, as well as weather-predicting devices.
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Handy Haversack:

But they ALREADY wanted phones off on planes so as not to interfere with nav equipment, no?
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Ike:

What @Handy said at 6:03. Passion about concentration camps and genocide is good and normal, not a "meltdown" IMHO.
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Webhamster Henry:

They are in matching white button-downs that is...
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PaulRobeson1920:

Oh, deep in my heart
I do believe
We shall overcome, some dayyyy a A!
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tim from washington:

Thanks for the 5G explanation. Makes sense.
  6:13pm
Dayvid:

I wonder if it’s on the Y-tube?
  6:13pm
Sam:

Don’t question 5G. It’s just better. Nobody knows why and it doesn’t matter. Just use it, cuz it’s new and better and cost a lot.
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ultradamno:

And now everybody points!
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dday:

@Tim. If interested : www.forbes.com...
  6:14pm
DanFA:

I remember Dave from the days co-hosting TRL on MTV
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Ken From Hyde Park:

6G will be along soon enough and fix any interference issues.
Hi, David.
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coelacanth∅:

Handy it's not just the phones ON the planes. we are all bathing in phone radiation at all times, and the waves travel to and from satellites, so so are the planes.
nasa sent firm warnings to not let it go down but just as with the physical ecology of this planet, immediate convenience rules.
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Webhamster Henry:

European 5G near airports doed not have this problem, possibly due to better or more thought out antenna design.
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Claire from Montclair:

Makes me think of the Always Sunny episode where they all get sick
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Handy Haversack:

If I'm gonna bathe in all this radiation, do I still have to bathe in water, too? Is there some kind of synergy here that will get me in the capitalist pool parties?
  6:18pm
Sam:

Nothing like doing a cannonball into a big pool of capital
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I gather 5G uses higher frequencies - or the more actually master 5G does. What Handy says about it not actually being a technical designation probly relevant here... Whether it is actually faster &/or more reliable - for all the pay-in that's already happened - another question... I've heard it may interfere with altimeters in planes...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

actually *Faster
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coelacanth∅:

Handy now we're on the same page!
except bringing beer wont do any more; it has to ne good scotch or hennessy.
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Bas NL:

I've heard most mobile phone frequencies interfere with weather radar.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Booz is a drug… Alcohol is a strong drug
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tak:

rip meat loaf. not trolling, he had many thoughts about this
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Blobs:

I enjoy this point of view from Dave.
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coelacanth∅:

Bas that seems logical
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Handy Haversack:

(Also going to feel extra smug using the ol' rotary phone tonight.)
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coelacanth∅:

"music" television? i thought it stood for "mindless" television!
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

Fellow-autists:
Are you, too, seemingly lacking this 'hole' that makes people not like what they want? Every time I get what I want I like it; I just wish it happened more.
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PaulRobeson1920:

“I don't believe in money
Fortune, fame, or dirty lies…”
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Ciggy:

As per Boost mobile (Sprint), I'm being forced to buy a new cellphone from my dumbest smartphone (3G) to a 5G within the next month or two.
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Webhamster Henry:

There was this story in the NYTimes about hedge funders competing with each other and feeling bad at the million dollar salary and benefits level because someone else was making more.
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ian:

this is so relevant for me because after 20 years of trying, I am about to start my first job working on a Hollywood movie with famous actors next month, and I'm already preparing for the disappointment
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Nina Blackwood ruled!
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Folsom:

The problem with the altimeters is that the filtering on the altimeter antenna may not filter the 5G signal enough. To keep the 5G signal from interfering with the altimeter they would have to install additional filters on every plane, and I guess that is impractical. There was a similar case from a company called LightSquared, that would interfere with GPS, they had to stop their development.
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Webhamster Henry:

... you don't have to kill those people, just tax them into equality.
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Mark Hurst:

@ian congrats on making it to that project - interested to hear how it goes!
  6:24pm
Sam:

Yeah, all of a sudden your private island isn’t good enough. It doesn’t even have a rainforest!
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Webhamster Henry:

They all need to read the Grimms' "The Fisherman and his Wife".
  6:25pm
DaveHolmes:

Hey Techtonic Nation! I’m a bit late, but I’m happy to be with you.
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

Beside all the other reasons, I think musicians, actors, and artists tend to be on the Left side of things because any honest such know in their guts that for every 'success' there are at least ten 'also-rans' of equal or superior ability. Even the 'successes', modulo a few nuts (who tend to be rightists) know that luck played a big part in their success.
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Mark Hurst:

@DaveHolmes welcome! Thanks for joining us.
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Claire from Montclair:

I have the podcast cued up on stitcher!
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Rolando:

Marks recommendations are always a safe bet.
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Bas NL:

(Queue Frank Sinatra)
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coelacanth∅:

Ciggy that just happened to me, with tracphone. i let it sit on the kitchen table for a week then turned it on and disabled almost everything on it. then i tried to transfer my phone # and it wouldn't work i had no phone for a couple days.
ultimately i got it working, after several calls to them; no google and shit (though it wont let me delete it completely)
but the camera wont work without the microphone enabled.
so no camera.
  6:27pm
Vince:

It’s easier, especially being raised in capitalism, to always be focused on what we don’t have, when we should be focused on what we do have and be grateful and appreciate the work we did to get what we do have.
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PaulRobeson1920:

We shall, we shall not be moved!
  6:28pm
Sam:

Greetings Dave Holmes!
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

Ciggy:
For GSM phones, at least one doesn't seem to have to get a 5G phone, a phone which can handle VoLTE on Band 12 will do. At least that's what Ting say for their clients, I think they use TMobile towers.
  6:28pm
Dayvid:

Hey guys
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PaulRobeson1920:

A grateful disposition is free!
  6:30pm
Sam:

Kurt Loder was the man
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adampsyche:

he sure was
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Blobs:

@DaveHolmes - thank you for the childhood memories, you were a great VJ! What ever happened to Jesse Camp...? I will need to listen to the pod, I guess.
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MarciB:

I can't wait to listen to this podcast with @DaveHolmes!
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Fox:

Lyme Disease went undiagnosed and wrecked me for decades, using up my 20s and 30s looking for answers, ultimately resulting in my being on disability. The greatest silver lining of this is my inability to compare myself to others, or judge my personal success on outside validation. Any art I make is after decades of nerve damage and brain inflammation. Comparison is useless. Everything I do or create is for the making, it's all for me. I am free of traditional competitive ambition, and it's pretty great. I'm just happy to exist and feel capable of joy.
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Fox:

This whole podcast reminds me of the Alan Watts buddhist tale with the farmer who repeatedly says "maybe" to everything that happens, never taking a stance of events as being good or bad as we never know what will happen as a result.
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

Vince:
At this risibly primitive level of technology it's inevitable that a lot of people will be unhappy regardless of how we try to divide-up the unhappiness, we're just that inept.

We have to get even better at manipulating the matter and forces that make us and everything we need for survival. Keep us from deteriorating and dying, usually well before only a century, free even more of us from horribly mandatory labour in agriculture and then in offices, and so free us from bosses as some of us have been freed from the worst of political hierarchy and despots, and then maybe we can talk about some chance of feeling good.
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Ciggy:

@coelacanth∅ ~ I only talk & text - but there is that temptation / feeling to have what are perceived to be necessary Apps.
  6:35pm
upstatesean:

So Mark doesn’t always talk about technology anymore?
It’s been a while since I’ve heard the show
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Mark Hurst:

@Fox thanks for sharing your story
  6:36pm
Old Dave:

Hey Fox that's a hard story and appreciate your sharing. Sure you know why fox are important in Lyme control? They eat the damn mice...
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coelacanth∅:

Ciggy i'm considering switching companies to tello
- $7/month, no contract. (now that i got tracphone to send me a new phone!)
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PaulRobeson1920:

“Whether or not it draws on new scientific research, technology is a branch of moral philosophy, not of science…”

All our inventions are but improved means to an unimproved end - Neil Postman
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

I'm basically Victorian in outlook: I'm very alert to things claiming to be 'healing' or 'self-care' that look to me more like advanced-level excuses.

I want the dignity of setting high standards for myself and knowing that I have failed when I have. (This is very different to accepting the ones imposed on me externally, screw them.)
  6:38pm
Dayvid:

Hey Dave Holmes. This is weirdly specifically helpful to me in relation to my new job. Thanks for sharing
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Ike:

@coel, as far as I can determine, for someone like me who rarely uses talk OR text OR data, the absolute cheapest plans are H2O (the pay-as-you-go plans) or maybe Page Plus or Virgin Mobile.
www.h2owireless.com...
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Rolando:

I love the journey, there is no way I'm going to skip forward.
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PaulRobeson1920:

@Rolando: Hi! Nice to make your acquaintance !
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Bucky Fuller & Terence McKenna posited that humanity has reached a point where we *have the means* to house & feed everyone & reduce much suffering ...*IF* that was really our species' values & motivation. We *should* be Celebrating. Instead - environmental degradation, war, economic injustice continue...
  6:41pm
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@sam Kurt Loder remains the man.
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WR:

Margaret Cho is part of the journey, I'm there.
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coelacanth∅:

Ike i used virgin mobile for a minute and liked it but when i moved to where i live now it wouldn't work here.
  6:42pm
DaveHolmes:

@dayvid I’m so glad to hear it! Break a leg in the new job.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I'd like to see them bring back Headbangers Ball. That was a hoot.
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Mark Hurst:

@WR she appears in ep10. but make sure to listen to eps1-9 first!
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PaulRobeson1920:

All together now!

We shall, we shall not be moved!
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coelacanth∅:

i don't want a payasyougo thing. tracfone takes $35 from my bank account every 2 months and i have far more minutes than i need. one less thing to think about.
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Blobs:

Very thoughtful interview - thank you, Mark & Dave.
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Handy Haversack:

Gonna be cooking, so I'll go ahead and say thanks now, Mark! I don't know how to fit a podcast into my deliciously decadent urban lifestyle choices (and WFMU addiction), but I have enjoyed the conversation.

Glad to see you, Fox!
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coelacanth∅:

...but i hate that they only have dumbphones, and i hate that the only free ones are touch-screen.
  6:45pm
castor:

Dave, I just wanna say I was a huge teenage TRL fan and remember watching that contest btwn you and that other crazy guy. I liked both of you for different reasons and was glad that you ended up on MTV in the end!
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PaulRobeson1920:

We shall not, we shall not be moved!
We shall not, we shall not be moved
Just like a tree that's planted by the waters
We shall not be moved!
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Rolando:

@PaulRobeson1920 Likewise nice to meet you.
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Ike:

@coel, I always bring my own phone.

Virgin Mobile uses Sprint's network, which is generally thought to be one of the worst. H2O uses AT&T's network. Last I heard, Page Plus uses Verizon's network, probably the best one.
  6:46pm
DaveHolmes:

Thank you, @castor! It all worked out in the end.
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PaulRobeson1920:

@Rolando I’m wondering, do you have a day job? & it’s ok U don’t have to answer
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

Revolution Rabbit Nov63:
Some are on top and want to stay there, which is understandable. Scarcity put them there, and as such they likely can't believe that it could be over, and even if they could a lot of us couldn't, because it's _dangerous_ to think Scarcity is over when it isn't—I think that was the hippies' main mistake, the morality post- _must_ be very different to the anti–free-rider morality during. (Someone wrote that fear of free riders is all that made mutual aid possible when things were very scarce.)
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Ike:

Some of the Pay As You Go plans refill automatically, thought I've had some trouble with H2O with that, so I don't recommend them if you want the most hands-off way to go. It doesn't always refill every 90 days like it's supposed to. I think Page Plus is more reliable for that.
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Webhamster Henry:

Of interest to Techtonic listeners: Got a few hours? This is fantastic! It also covers the 2008 crisis and Crypto currencies and lots and lots more!
Caution: really long even though he talks really fast.
www.youtube.com...
  6:49pm
upstatesean:

Great connection
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coelacanth∅:

i'll check it out anyway. i'm pretty okay with tello's unlimited minutes, $7/month plan. i think it uses verizon towers.
...but i have to find out if tracphone will unlock the phone they gave me.
probably not.
  6:50pm
DaveHolmes:

Top notch teasing, Mark!
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Rolando:

After listening to last weeks podcast you have to be a massive optimist to believe that we can get off the trajectory we have been on for the past 10 years or so. Thank you Mark for your years and years of excellent service and encouragement.
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coelacanth∅:

Marc, for the record, i called it a meltdown, as you did; but that doesn't mean i don't appreciate it and respect it.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

@Whywolf: Thx for response. Interesting - but I kind of lose you about halfway cause indefinite references & broke down sentence structure...
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tim from washington:

I'd like to see Tesla become the new PT Cruiser.
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coelacanth∅:

haha
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coelacanth∅:

the tesla car itself is a surveillance device.
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PaulRobeson1920:

@RevRabbit63 : Bucky Fuller wrote we must invest in Livingry rather than Killingry
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Bas NL:

Tesla sets you free.
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Franco Twinkie:

Technology is like drugs or guns - by themselves, what, inert stuff? I don't know what to call it. You know where I'm going with this, so I'll just shut up and go get a cup of coffee.
  6:55pm
Sam:

You’ve got NBA stars apologizing, in mandarin, for daring to say Taiwan was a country. You think anyone powerful is going to call out the death camps?
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ultradamno:

Have even the Sacklers said anything comparable to that about the opioid crises?...I'm sure they think it, but the gall...
  6:56pm
Sam:

Back to the paper 1040 form I guess. Staple those W2’s on there. Way simpler.
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DjLorraine:

Truth, my friend had to do the facial recognition
  6:57pm
wendy del formaggio:

OMG Mark! I think my mom is struggling with IDMe right now in order to collect unemployment from the NJ DOL. This is fucked up!
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Ike:

@coel, I've never tried Tello. Looking into that now, thanks. Oh, interesting, good prices, and you can build your own plan with just 100 minutes and no data per month, or just 500 MB per month, etc. Looks like it's on the T-Mobile network.
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castor:

Mark, I have been reading “The Dawn of Everything” and think there’s a lot in there that you can make connections with on your show, esp regarding the role of tech in society and possibilities for a better future. Just putting it out there as a recommended reading and that if you’re interested you should see about getting David Wengrow on your show!
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listener 126464:

Thanks Mark!
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & Dave!
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ultradamno:

See you in two weeks.
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listener james from westwood:

Take care, Mark, and enjoy the well-earned break!
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tim from washington:

Thanks, Mark! Have a good week off. I'll stay tuned for Staysh!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Peace&Love Ya’ll!! Thank you Mark & WFMU
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coelacanth∅:

gee, there's a shocker.
and thank you shithead biden, by the way, for being of the wealthy people, for the wealthy people.
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David in London:

Thanks Mark.
Night all.
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StringOFperils:

Thanks Mark! Keep ridin' shotgun on the robot frontier.
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DaveHolmes:

Thank you for having me, Mark! Have a great 2022 y’all.
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Rolando:

Try having four children and pretending this does not affect you or your children, it gets exponentially more frightening. I am feeling it here in Australia (like you won't believe) it is honestly like 1984, even my church has been giving me the cold shoulder. Remember I'm an ordinary peaceful chap, just living my life with my family and doing my best to say out of trouble.
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chresti:

Thanks Mark and Dave!
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Webhamster Henry:

Thanks Mark & Dave!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Will it be the Piña Colada song?
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WR:

Thank you Mark and guest David Holmes.
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Sam:

Great show, thanks!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! Special thanks to @DaveHolmes for being with us. Everyone should listen to "Waiting for Impact"!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

@Franco: I posit that - a drug with a low threshold for overdose & addiction is not quite equivalent to a psychedelic - nor is a gun to a spoon... As for Tech, who controls them & what effects the things themselves have on human & societies - I do see as two different questions - which obviously relate...
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Will the Sound Guy:

Thank you Mark!!!! Enjoy the week off
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castor:

Thanks Mark and Dave!
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Sam:

Next week Pauly Shore?
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark!
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Will the Sound Guy:

Thank you Dave for your time and input!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Thank you, Dave! Good stuff!!!
A grateful disposition is free baby. Feed your head
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Webhamster Henry:

id.me will be an excellent DOS target.
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ultradamno:

Did he just say the devil is in his pants?
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Neat, I had one of those water donut game thingies. Thanks, Mark & Dave. Good luck!
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