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Favoriting December 27, 2021: Mark Schatzker, author, "The End of Craving"

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Tonight: Mark Schatzker, author, "The End of Craving"

Links:

The End Of Craving: Recovering the Lost Wisdom of Eating Well, by Mark Schatzker

MarkSchatzker.com - author site

@MarkSchatzker - Twitter

‘The End of Craving’ Review: Why You Can’t Eat Just One (WSJ book review, Nov 3, 2021)

‘Warning: ultra-processed’ — A call for warnings on foods that aren’t really foods (BMJ Global Health, Dec 21, 2021): "With more than half the total calories consumed in high-income countries coming from ultra-processed foods and rapid increases in low- and middle-income countries, these products are exposing billions of people to a higher risk of type 2 diabetes, heart disease, stroke, depression and death. Your grandparents wouldn’t have used or even recognised them. In the half century or so since ultra-processed foods became available, diets high in those products have largely displaced traditional and healthier diets, and ultra-processed foods have been among the most aggressively promoted and marketed products in the world. In addition, their intensive marketing has led to rapidly growing sales in low- and middle-income countries. Worldwide, palates (and brains) have been trained to crave these foods while the food industry invests many millions in formulating and marketing them to be highly desirable."

Thread accompanying the James Webb meme - see also this explainer video (on toxic YouTube, unfortunately)

$10bn James Webb space telescope launches on ‘eternal search’ mission (The Guardian, Dec 25, 2021): $10B successor to the Hubble telescope takes off on board rocket from ESA’s launch base in Kourou, French Guiana

Mark Zuckerberg Is TNR’s 2021 Scoundrel of the Year (by David Roth in The New Republic, Dec 22, 2021): “There are many things to abhor about Mark Zuckerberg and his works, but the fundamental mediocrity of it all - the lack of vision, the absence of any moral sense or shame, the inability and unwillingness not just to fix but even reckon with the dangerous and ungovernable thing he’s made - is what feels both most egregious and most of this moment. It is embarrassing and not a little enraging to realize that you are subject to the whims of an amoral and incurious capitalist posing as a visionary optimist. It is especially humiliating when the all-bestriding and inevitable figure in question is such a dim, dull nullity. . . . The nitwit founder of Facebook has created the worst, most damaging website in the world. And we’re just supposed to accept it.”

‘I do surfing’: an AI-generated Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook’s bad year (by Julia Carrie Wong and Botnik Studios in The Guardian, today, Dec 27, 2021): "we worked with Botnik Studios to create a predictive keyboard trained on the past two years of Zuckerberg’s public statements (archived by Marquette University’s Zuckerberg Files). ... Guardian journalists provided the questions; Botnik used the predictive keyboard to generate the answers." (See also Jamie Brew and Bob Mankoff on TT Feb 12, 2018; and Jamie Brew on TT Oct 8, 2018.)

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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:00pm listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:00pm ultradamno:

Mark! Techtoracious!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm Handy Haversack:

Mark! Techyon Drives! Glad to be here with youse!
Avatar 🤖 6:01pm Bas NL:

Hi Mark! All!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Here for this week's Techronicles!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm chresti:

Hi Mark and technons!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm Will the Sound Guy:

Hello, Mark and all!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm Webhamster Henry:

Hi Techtonic fans .. nice to see Botnik in the playlist news breakdown!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm herb.nyc:

Eating a lot? If mark is sitting around the house, is he SITTING AROUND THE HOUSE? Happy post-Xmas to all.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park:

It did launch, but there was one minor problem - www.xkcd.com...
Avatar 🤖 6:05pm Bas NL:

Perfect launch. Had my fingers crossed!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm DjLorraine:

I hope KD Lang is tuning in tonight
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm Will the Sound Guy:

It's going to be pretty amazing!!!
  6:06pm Oy:

Dude

No jinx

Miles to go ere it’s home mmmkay?
Avatar 🤖 6:07pm MarciB:

I heard that if nothing happens for a month or so, it's good!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm Webhamster Henry:

It's going to be a month before it gets 1,000,000 miles out to L2, but: 1,000,000 miles to L2.
  6:07pm P-90:

Mark, you’re being facetious about the Webb not being able to surveil the Earth, right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm Webhamster Henry:

Lets hope it doesn't bump into space junk.
Avatar 🤖 6:08pm MarciB:

Oh I'm so excited for this interview!
  6:08pm Oy:

Just made more brownies and a banana bread.

Way ahead of y’all

Pea soup and cranberry sauce round two tk
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm Little Danny:

hello mark, hello all
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm DjLorraine:

Mark Schatzker interview and book. Critical topic. TY
  6:10pm Quinn02:

Hi Mark! I love this show!
  6:10pm Jackie G:

Eat food, not too much. mostly fruit and vegetables. And a little dark chocolate on occasion.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Franco Twinkie:

Eat mostly ice, and a little plaster.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining in this evening! (Yes, I know Webb has a ways to go - anyway it's worth celebrating a flawless launch, as Bas points out)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Webhamster Henry:

Do yoga in your grave, eat brains.
  6:12pm Jackie G:

High fructose corn syrup is evil
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm ultradamno:

Not to mention the racist anti-chinese food campaign on the basis of MSG
  6:12pm Oy:

I learned that hamsters prefer everclear to water and they can drink a human under the table

In case you cared

What ain’t critical nowadays?

Meanwhile lard and bacon fats and butter are better for y’all than cornsyrup and related oils

Happy eve
Avatar 🤖 6:13pm MarciB:

My guess: Big Agra is the villain. But really, it's all about our own biology, our age, our metabolism...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm Webhamster Henry:

@Oy I just sip my little water bottle, and head off to my little wheel for a little real-world "doom scrolling"
--signed,
a hamster
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm Mark Hurst:

@Quinn02 thanks!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm Will the Sound Guy:

I just made a creamy portobello, shitake, leek, and shallot soup 🍲
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm Mark Hurst:

@Will sounds delicious
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm Ken From Hyde Park:

What? Diet sodas didn't solve this problem? <shocked face emoji>
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm Mark Hurst:

@KenfHP yep exactly
Avatar 🤖 6:17pm Bas NL:

Maybe a higher weight gives one an evolutionary advantage shopping for food in the supermarket?
  6:17pm Jackie G:

Some people are just big-boned. What can you do?
  6:18pm P-90:

Possible band name: “The Sandfly Contingent”
  6:19pm The Butterman:

I’m changing my name to cornsyrupman
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm Mark Hurst:

Niacin, riboflavin, thiamin!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Franco Twinkie:

And a little sawdust!
  6:20pm P-90:

Beriberi similarly wiped out
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Webhamster Henry:

For a good laugh, listen to Ruth Draper's "Doctors and Diets", a monologue from the 20s
Avatar 🤖 6:20pm MarciB:

A shout out to natty Italian wines!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm herb.nyc:

We grew up under (gung ho American) capitalism. So we should be able to gorge on food, any and all kinds. A theory- I kinda sorta believe. (Because capitalism made us selfish and hateful. Again, I kinda sorta believe)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm Webhamster Henry:

"A part of your nutritious breakfast!"
  6:22pm P-90:

Carbs and fats correctly combined maximizes the benefits of each, and minimizes the potential harm.
Avatar 🤖 6:22pm MarciB:

My Italian ancestors were all lean until they came here
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm Webhamster Henry:

How about other skinny cultures who are not actually starving?
  6:24pm P-90:

America leads the world in childhood niacin and riboflavin awareness.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm Franco Twinkie:

I agree Mark! After staying in Rome, which I thought was the be all end all of food, I went to Bolongna. The scales fell from my eyes pretty damn quick.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm Mark Hurst:

@P-90 good one. We're solving niacin illiteracy, one cereal box at a time!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm Mark Hurst:

@Franco totally agree. Emilia Romagna is amazing
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm Webhamster Henry:

Mmm yum! "It's a cookbook!" "It's People!
soylent.com
Avatar 6:29pm HyperDose:

Soylent® and Spam®, what else could you ask for?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm Webhamster Henry:

There's also the fabulous growth hormones in yer aggrobiz meats.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm listener james from westwood:

Also re: energy drinks, some of those bottles are 2 or more servings, so could be 400% or more of RDA for the B6 if you chug the jug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm Mark Hurst:

@James "bro, do you even overclock your B6?"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm listener james from westwood:

I powder a whole bottle of B6 into the water of my float tank!
Avatar 6:34pm HyperDose:

@listener james Is that before or after consuming the psilocybin edibles?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm Webhamster Henry:

Humans need Thai Peanut sauce.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm Mark Hurst:

"Half of the space in my New Zealand bunker is for B6 storage!"
  6:35pm Jackie G:

Popcorn: good
Cheezits: good
Cheezit popcorn: delicious!
  6:35pm castor:

Diet also affects your gut biome which can cause issues with immune and auto-immune systems, mood, blood sugar, and more. My Italian-American father suffers from this some of these and I always think about how they might be connected.
  6:36pm catherine:

People used to get scurvy from a lack of vitamin C - why havent they added that to everyday foods? Also why did pelagra appear in Italy and the southern US only? Surely many populations suffered from malnutrition in the 19th century...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm Webhamster Henry:

"Fish is brain food!" Maybe not, but might as well eat it while it's still here.
Avatar 6:36pm Juli:

Tyyyyy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm listener james from westwood:

Just checked the region of Italy previously cited on Wiki and there's a type of pasta whose name translates to "priest-strangler." So I'm sold.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Snack food manufacturers peddle stuff with a combination of salty, sweet and fat that leads people to eat way more of that junk food than they should.
Avatar 🤖 6:37pm Bas NL:

I think core is to have a good balance. Artificial or natural is not the issue.
  6:38pm Jackie G:

Gotta eat beans; at least twice/week.
  6:39pm NikiA:

this is a very compelling conversation. thank you Mark and Mark
  6:39pm Oy:

I’m on synthroid hormone replacement (post thyroid ablation & Graves’ disease trying to blow my heart up the last few years yodda yodda) with a side benefit of putting on excess girth.

My dr asked if I was taking biotin supplements as that would be the only reason my T3 was solid but T4 was oddly upper limit.

Nope.

Later noticed that eggs and Ovaltine are mega biotin supples.

The more you know……******~~~*
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm Webhamster Henry:

I just ate up some yummy bean soup! It had some sea veggies in it too.

I'm over on the "happy" side of the Wong-Baker faces, scientists.
  6:40pm Sam:

People are fat because they sit on their asses. If you exercise regularly you probably won’t gain weight, no matter what you eat. Just find a place to walk that you really like. Maybe it’s easier in Italy.
  6:41pm Oy:

Ovaltine & espresso is so good
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm iiibeat:

Applied science . . Buckle up!!
Avatar 6:42pm HyperDose:

I'll sneak a cheeky scoop of Ovaltine in my smoothies every once in a while
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm Dano59:

@Sam: Yep, and I was just reminded, reading Hilary Campbell's "Murder Book," that the "Netflix & Chill" phenomenon is essentially just another capitalist profit enterprise.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm solo mon:

I think food should be worn, not eaten.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:43pm Franco Twinkie:

On the A1 between Florence and Rome there is a truck stop called Autogrill. Their pizza is better than anything I've had in San Francisco, Los Angels and New York City. On the surface this seems suspect, but it illustrates how serious Italians about food.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm Dano59:

We shall spill no wine before its time
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm Webhamster Henry:

You don't suppose this "science of induced craving" has anything to do with social media?
  6:44pm Jackie G:

Americans and their reliance on cars: a recipe for obesity. Americans rarely walk. They drive everywhere.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm chresti:

RE: beyond meat, I thought the purpose of it was to do away with the contribution to global warming caused by the meat industry
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm Franco Twinkie:

Solo, I'm wearing clam chowder of the front of my bath robe as we speak.
Avatar 6:45pm Juli:

Surely man has not thought I should not die so I can reproduce lmfao...but the sex organs are tricksters like that lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm listener james from westwood:

Those 1990s low-fat snacks were a grim experience. They jacked up the salt to make them gag-downable.
Avatar 6:45pm Juli:

This is VERY helpful
  6:46pm Sam:

I buy the healthy low calorie frozen dinners. And then I just end up eating 3 of them to feel full.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park:

@Jackie G - Yes, the suburban sprawl model that requires cars for everyone isn't helpful.
  6:46pm Oy:

I love his voice

So close to Wallace Shawn

My rather not dinner w Andre
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm solo mon:

Franco! I’m wearing taco sauce on my shirt and pants.
  6:47pm P-90:

The crappy cheap fats used to make “low cal” and “lite” versions of many things are much more unhealthy than the slightly more calorie-rich fats they replace.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm Webhamster Henry:

Poutine is clearly the ideal food. #ocanada
Avatar 6:47pm HyperDose:

@Henry The way IG targets it to you via the explore page is crazy. Food has sub-genres now like "cheese stretch", "cross sections", or "brisket knife scrape"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm listener james from westwood:

I just finished the last of the chicken parmigiana I made for Christmas dinner with whole wheat penne and vodka sauce and a good hunk of rye sourdough for sopping up stray sauce.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm Franco Twinkie:

The ultimate come-on over the phone: What food are you wearing?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm chresti:

Fat-free yogurt has a load of sugar in it.
  6:48pm mr 6:

Corn syrup is not listed as a sugar
  6:48pm Sam:

Beyond meat is for ethical reasons for than health reasons, I’d say. Factory farming and killing billions of animals when we don’t have to is just sadism on a psychotic level.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm Webhamster Henry:

#HyperDose I like TikToks of massive batches of food being prepared. Watch one and they'll give you a million of them!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm solo mon:

Fruit leather?
  6:49pm Jackie G:

Is cheese food cheese or something resembing food?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

greetings, Mark and folx. Amazing interview, gotta check out that book.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm Dano59:

I'm sort of at lunchtime right now so a storebought cold-cut Italian sandwich (on enriched whole wheat - the wrong kind of bread!) and I'm heating up Italian wedding soup because I'm freezing. Trying to eat more, gain some weight back, and got a good start over the past weekend.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm solo mon:

OMX it’s Baba Bee!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm Franco Twinkie:

Watch this: Baba, what food are you wearing?
  6:51pm P-90:

SUGAR BLASTS
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

solo! chrestikins! got the tin cans connected!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm Ken From Hyde Park:

In the store's ice cream freezer there was something with a label like "dairy-based frozen dessert product." Eww!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm Dano59:

Michael Pollan tried to warn us about all this -- and I am genuinely disturbed at the volume and variety of "energy drinks" in every. freaking. store. Coca-Cola now has some, and Coke IS an energy drink. Jeepers.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm chresti:

Mx Baba Beekins!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm Webhamster Henry:

Those Nutrition labels have ways to game them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Franco: Twinkies, of course! ;-)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Franco Twinkie:

Ohhhhhh!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm StringOFperils:

Food, like one's own faeces, is meant for throwing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Eat it or wear it? I'm a both/and Baba
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Webhamster Henry:

Mmmm why are some of these drinks considered liquids? pbs.twimg.com...
Avatar 6:53pm HyperDose:

Mx Boba Tea?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm solo mon:

A poncho made from hostess twinkies! Yes, and!
  6:53pm castor:

That was a great interview! I am also thankful that I live in a big city with fairly easy access to a diversity of well made cuisine, including more authentic Italian food.
Avatar 🤖 6:53pm MarciB:

This is why I love Einkorn flour (from Italy) and products from Jovial Foods
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

food out of the ground? ew! I want factory extrusions!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Will the Sound Guy:

when I can I try to cook with the least processed ingredients... tastes better too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm Fuzzy:

French fries are vegetables
  6:54pm Sam:

Is beer ok? It’s pretty natural and old school and my instincts tell me to drink a lot of it. But I’m not sure if that’s really evolutionary progress?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm Dano59:

Calling is Soylent is the cruelest joke of all
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm Will the Sound Guy:

beer is always safe 🤪
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm Webhamster Henry:

Some of these meats are going to be made from muscle stem cells, so they are meat without the animals and arguably the animal cruelty.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm solo mon:

I ate something called “B’ef” last week.
  6:55pm Jackie G:

Soylent rhymes with toilet
  6:55pm Sam:

Eat beans. Mostly black.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm StringOFperils:

We are already Plastinated Cheeto-orange skin-walkers.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm chresti:

Frankenstein burritos
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm listener james from westwood:

Hell, beer should be fine. Beer goes back. Egyptians, IIRC. At its best it has like, what, 3 ingredients? Chug on!
  6:55pm castor:

most meat is still really bad for the environment
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm Franco Twinkie:

Yay!
Avatar 6:55pm HyperDose:

I got my B’ef curtains on Amazon
  6:56pm Oy:

Beer is liquid bread w surprisingly too much sodium sometimes
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Will the Sound Guy:

Thank you Mark!!! check you out on DDR!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm solo mon:

OLO HyperD
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Webhamster Henry:

The world of fermented foods and intestinal flora would be a whole other show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Stephen O:

Thank you, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm ultradamno:

See you in two weeks
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm listener 126464:

Thanks Mark.
Avatar 🤖 6:57pm Bas NL:

Thanks Marks!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm chresti:

Mass production anything is not good
  6:57pm castor:

Thank you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm solo mon:

Thanks Mark, good show!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm Franco Twinkie:

Thank you Mark. What's for dinner?
  6:57pm P-90:

Cool! The last Double Diptonic was a winner. See you Saturday @Mark!
  6:57pm Old Dave:

Another nice show Mark. Thanks very much!
  6:57pm Oy:

Poutine is proof god luvs us
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm Webhamster Henry:

WFMU needs a food show.
Avatar 6:57pm HyperDose:

All killer, no filler. Thanks for giving it to us straight, Mark!
Avatar 6:58pm ARB:

I love when Techtonic goes wellness, thank you!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm chresti:

Thanks Mark! We love Italian food
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Webhamster Henry:

WFMU's answer to Gary Null.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Mark Hurst:

@ARB thanks!
Avatar 🤖 6:58pm Bas NL:

WH with you.. WFMU needs a food show!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Marks. Food for thought!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm chresti:

Agree Webham!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Webhamster Henry:

Wendy The Cheese Maven!
  6:59pm hoeg:

Thanks so much Mark :)
Best wishes to you and your family and to all the Techtons and Techtonites!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm chresti:

Absolutely!
  6:59pm Sam:

Yes this was super interesting. You always have incredible guests, Mark, and ask great questions. I like how you branched into a different unexpected realm tonight.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Webhamster Henry:

Yes! ARB does a relevant Lead-in!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:01pm Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone, glad you joined in! @Sam thanks! @Webham yes I appreciated that lead-in from ARB.
  7:20pm mr 6:

Niacin is used by people to pass drug tests.
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