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Options September 20, 2021: Ten reasons to smash your smartphone

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Today: Ten reasons to smash your smartphone

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The Facebook Files (5-article series in the Wall Street Journal, Sept 2021)

Google and Apple, Under Pressure From Russia, Remove Voting App (NYT, Sept 17): "The app, created by allies of the opposition leader Aleksei Navalny, vanished from online stores, reflecting a new level of pressure against U.S. technology companies in the country."

Apple Issues Emergency Security Updates to Close a Spyware Flaw (NYT, Sept 13): "Researchers at Citizen Lab found that NSO Group, an Israeli spyware company, had infected Apple products without so much as a click."

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Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:00pm ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonoclasts!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm Handy Haversack:

Technically, the Techgin is rye (and Campari and dry vermouth). But there's still always room for Techtonic!

Hello, Mark and all the Techyon Drives!

I do want to emphasize to anyone who can't steel their nerve to smartphone smashing that I offer the service at a very reasonable rate and will dispose of the remains discreetly. Er, and responsibly!
  6:01pm David in London:

Evening Technoids. Hello Mr Hurst.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm Handy Haversack:

Hey, ultradamno, David!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark and tech team. Got my hammer ready! 📱 🔨
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm Little Danny:

hi Mark, I've got my hammer ready
Avatar 🤖 6:02pm Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi T'nics! Greets from a UK hotel!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm Little Danny:

Dammit Ken FHP
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm chresti:

Hi Mark and technaughts!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Oh dear! Sorry LD.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm Webhamster Henry:

Is this a call-in-and-smash your phone show?
  6:03pm ohme:

There is actually a thing now called the "Rage Room" where you can smash all kinds of electronics. Here's one in San Diego, CA: https://brainyactzsocal.com/san-diego-ca/activity-rage-room
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm Little Danny:

hehe I'll beat you next time Ken
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm ultradamno:

Hiya Handy!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Webhamster Henry:

How about that Epik password dump folks?
  6:04pm David in London:

Handy, ultradamno, Ken, Bas, Chresti.
I like the shows where you fly solo Mark.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Handy Haversack:

Little Danny, Ken, if *I* had a hammer ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm ultradamno:

Hey DiL!
  6:05pm Sam:

Every day it takes all of my willpower not to smash my smartphone. I have a Need/Hate relationship with it.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm chresti:

Hi David in London.
Avatar 🤖 6:06pm Bas NL:

Hi DiL!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm ultradamno:

Well, the comic edits out the baby dropping to check the phone.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park:

If only you had an AI bot at your disposal to read and respond to comments automatically, Mark. 🤖
'Evening, David!
  6:07pm Listener Robert:

See, "the 1940s" is what a kid like Mark Hurst thinks is the old days. This comic strip looks much older.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm Will the Sound Guy:

Hello Mark and all!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm ultradamno:

The show Wellington Paranormal last night had a line where they were responding to a ghost from the eighties wanting to return to the world "Oh you'd hate it, mullets are out of style, the music is awful, everyone's on their phones"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm Webhamster Henry:

“When we all have pocket telephones”. Daily Mirror, UK, 1923
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm Handy Haversack:

Hi, chresti! So my friends seem to both now live in El Sereno. One says that he might also be in Rose Hills or (according to some sources) either Newton Park or Baird Park. So not what I thought before!
  6:10pm Sam:

The bullies just make you venmo your lunch money now
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm PaulRobeson1920:

Hi Hi Hi, one & all!
  6:10pm Listener Robert:

Thanks, Hamster, that's about what I was going to guess.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Will the Sound Guy:

I'm the kid in 🎧
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm JohnEBGood:

2021, which is worse than 2020. 😎
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm chresti:

They're too sleepy to talk after staying up all night playing games.
  6:11pm queems:

to be fair i’ll use any excuse not to talk to other people
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm chris in the redwoods:

one kid listening to FMU in the bunch!? sheesh. :)
hi, Mark and all.
  6:11pm Sam:

Yeah, everyone's going to be completely fucked up soon
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Fortunately I didn't need the schoolbus - but if I had - I'd probly have been glad they didn't talk to me & their attention was elsewhere...
Yeah headphones. I'm an EarZombie.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm DjLorraine:

Evening fine folks
  6:12pm Sam:

When I was a kid there were some bad kids who sat in the back and played the beastie boys on a boombox and I stayed away from them
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm chris in the redwoods:

yes
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm Woo:

The answer is YES
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm adampsyche:

i mean once you factor in the last guy...
  6:12pm Roland from Australia:

Mark does an 80s time warp past the school bus station
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm ultradamno:

I hear Texans in NYC have gotten more agressive
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm annie:

absolutely
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm coelacanth∅:

but they *are* zombies, and they'll be useless when the shit hits the fan.
  6:13pm queems:

i think people are more aggressive but i don’t think it is necessarily due to smart phones
  Swag For Life Member 6:13pm teod:

I certainly have seen more aggression after the advent of social media. In my day to day experience, I'm not sure I experience more aggression.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm chris in the redwoods:

social media, not sure its smarty phones as a whole. but media, yes, esp. social media.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Yes.
Also - DonaldDrumpf. But lots of chicken or eggs there... Obama was the 1st New Media POTUS...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm PaulRobeson1920:

Short answer, no
  6:14pm Sam:

Excluding road rage, I'd say there's less aggression. Most people are very afraid of confrontation and apologize if they need to go around you or interact with you in any way. Everyone's afraid of each other.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm Franco Twinkie:

Yesterday I was standing in line at the Super A to get a a barbequed chicken. In front of me was a young Mexican couple, not Chicanos, Mexicans. They both had I phones with split screens yakking away in Spanish with different people. Did they seem happy? How the hell do I know. Imagine trying to convince them to get rid of their phones. Fat chance.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm PaulRobeson1920:

For every ten MPH, 1 car length between you and the car infront is safe following distance
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm Woo:

The Chicago area has seen more than 150 expressway shootings so far this year, authorities say - already higher than the total number of expressway shootings that occurred in all of 2020 and more than double the number seen by this time last year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm herb.nyc:

Mark is sooooo boring. Am falling aslee...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm joe mulligan:

society more aggressive? OF COURSE. hyper-normalization of zombies not interacting and repressing the banal conflicts of regular discussion bottles up the aggression. I've been having too many altercations with irresponsible/inattentive strangers lately
Avatar 6:15pm Fredericks:

I get mad at those folks that leave too much room between cars.
  6:15pm Sam:

Honestly, the safer you drive, the more people will get pissed at your driving
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm DjLorraine:

Yes i just saw a commercial with M. T. Greene looking into the site of a war weapon :'(.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm Feldpausch:

As soon as the pandemic started last year, I saw people running lights
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm ultradamno:

I keep hearing that incidents are up at restaurants, but in my day to day, not so much.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm coelacanth∅:

cops might give you a ticket for passing, legally, through an amber light
  6:16pm queems:

2 truck 2 furious
  6:16pm The Butterman:

Jeez. Don’t be a high school teacher.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm PaulRobeson1920:

When yer trailer starts to slide left and right u have to hit the gas gently to get the thing to straighten out
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm Handy Haversack:

Yeah, truck-on-truck. Doubleplus ungood.

Avoiding any contact with cops dictates a LOT of my driving choices.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm ultradamno:

That's kind of a hat on a hat, but more dangerous
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The pandemic as made some more considerate perhaps.
All those old school studies about roadrage - & how if you pass human on a sidewalk - you exchange signals about space & it rarely goes badly. But in cars - that's eliminated. Extrapolate that maybe to everyone being out of practice in signaling as a fellow human because of devices & social media - where people feel anonymous enuff to be rude.
Avatar 6:17pm Fredericks:

He presumed you were going through the light, Mark.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm herb.nyc:

Crap. This is a scary story
Avatar 🤖 6:17pm Bas NL:

On the edge of my chair...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm ultradamno:

I'd say my cat is more aggressive, but she's just like that.
  6:17pm choggie:

Born in 65', no social media accounts, home sound system, tape decks, turntables, reel-to-reel, no PC connected to internet, smart phone for work and noir flicks and music. Tube amp and feedback, and one English bulldog who like to talk
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Rich in Washington:

Duel
  6:18pm Sam:

Aaah. Just do a quick u-turn. He won't be able to follow.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm herb.nyc:

Dennis weaver was in that movie
  6:18pm artie17:

Duel
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Little Danny:

Duel!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Handy Haversack:

Vanishing Point?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Feldpausch:

Maximum Overdrive, Stephen King
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Tommy in Neversink:

DUEL was the movie
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Christine?
  6:18pm convoy_pt2:

Duel, scary movie to watch as a kid
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Webhamster Henry:

That movie was Duel, a TV movie that was released in theatres in Europe!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Tommy in Neversink:

Fantastic film
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Handy Haversack:

Jolene?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Franco Twinkie:

It was! Dennis Weaver was the guy getting chased.
  6:19pm queems:

holy shit
  6:19pm ohme:

Definitely Duel! I had the same car (Dodge Dart) when I was 16.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm chris in the redwoods:

what an ass hat
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm PaulRobeson1920:

Road rage is not good for anyone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm adampsyche:

i had similar happen in nj on rte 287 south, but 2004
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm chresti:

If you had a phone you could call the police, get his lic# first.
  Swag For Life Member 6:19pm teod:

coal blasting
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm Franco Twinkie:

I was on TV in America.
  6:19pm Sam:

Did he deploy the fry smell?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm Will the Sound Guy:

Rolling coal
  6:19pm choggie:

Truck was just totalled by a teenager running a red light while using his I Phone. IfI hadn't nailed the accelerator last second, would have been in hospital....Fucking gen z's and millennials, LEARN TO BE HERE NOW!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm Rich in Washington:

Rednecks around here call it 'rolling coal'
Avatar 6:20pm Fredericks:

Coal rolling.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Webhamster Henry:

@cresti hahah Mark with a phone hahahah
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm ultradamno:

Oh, they still have those smoke things? Idiots.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm joe mulligan:

rolling coal! this happens to cyclists in rural areas all the time and it's horrible. diesel trucks
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Handy Haversack:

Holy crap, Mark. This is awful.

I can't even imagine how little effort cops would put into pretending to care about this.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Woo:

I just drove 2000 plus miles to the east coast and back to Chicago. There seemed to be even more trucks than usual. Maybe catching up on the supply chain shortages. For the most part they were well behaved.
  6:20pm The Butterman:

That’s some James Bond shit.
  Swag For Life Member 6:20pm teod:

en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm ultradamno:

Calling him in worth using the phone while driving.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm PaulRobeson1920:

Gross. Diesel smoke
  6:21pm ohme:

Yes, not a special button, you just floor it and you will roll the black smoke.
Avatar 6:21pm rose de tivoli:

not sure about "more aggressive", but i haven't had a mobile phone in 8 years and i wouldn't want it any other way. all my friends and family do. i am in my early 40s and i think that some few of us need to stay off grid.
Avatar 6:21pm Jeff Moore:

"Rolling coal is a form of conspicuous air pollution, used for entertainment or as protest."

en.wikipedia.org...
  6:21pm The Butterman:

Is American getting more violent? Are you kidding? Uhhhhhh duh! We love violence.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm Will the Sound Guy:

I'm sorry that you had to experience all that Mark. People are a-holes it's on the rise, general lack of compassion.
  6:21pm Sam:

He didn't have one of those How's My Driving stickers?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Of course there is massive political divineness which has to translate into the social. Rage is empowered as a strategy - there's no doubt.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm joe mulligan:

covid quarantine frustration, trump lost, and anti vaxxers angry about their "rights" have a lot more to do about those types of aggression
  6:22pm Listener Robert:

It's not a stock item, but something the driver had installed because he's an asshole.
  6:22pm Marci:

Yes we’ve noticed an uptick - it may also be COVID fueled as well as stupid phone fueled
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm TristaC.LadyCaveBrat:

I've read about that black puff of smoke thing. They (scum) have a name for it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm Trouble:

yes I do believe that people are getting more aggressive, and driving more aggressively and/or more distractedly
Avatar 6:22pm Fredericks:

You just stomp the gas pedal in a diesel.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm Rich in Washington:

I think they just flood their engine with the accelerator in a certain gear or something.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm PaulRobeson1920:

I imagine it is made by feeding the engine gas quickly so it does not burn fully, creating smoke
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm coelacanth∅:

it's a diesel and if he revs it then hits the clutch or throws it into neutral the smoke comes out
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm ultradamno:

Rolling Coal Just Makes People Hate Pickup Trucks www.motorbiscuit.com...
  6:22pm Sam:

Drivers are super entitled
Avatar 6:22pm Jeff Moore:

Oh, I see that @teod identified "rolling coal" already in an unlabeled link.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm bukowski.:

the black smoke is referred to as "rolling coal" not sure where the name came from
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm Mr. Pumpy:

Uggggh...those are those shmucks that "Roll Coal". They have a control on diesel engines to flood the combustion chamber and burn super rich...bellowing black smoke. the button would probably read, "Three Inches While fully Engorged"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Conversely - what's left that Unites people - gives Society - us - a sense of our commonality ?
  6:23pm choggie:

Texas here-in my town pick-ups dominate....specifically, perfectly fine stock pick-up bastardized with useless accessories, retarded tires, lift-kits, led lights and obnoxious exhaust mods....DOUCHBAGS!!
  6:23pm The Butterman:

That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. Rolling coal!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm Ken From Hyde Park:

To pass time during the pandemic, I've been watching dashcam videos. Lots of road rage, people running red lights and people witlessly pulling out in front of others.
  6:23pm LiXiviatef Life:

First interview question is absolutely there is more rage I think smart phones or cell phones or just part of the reason.
Second, that’s called Rolling Coal.
As a bicyclist I’ve been subject to knuckleheads in diesel trucks who will do that to me on occasion just for their entertainment
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm WR:

Sounds like standard road rage to me.
  6:23pm artie17:

Pretty sure it’s called Rolling Coal and you will usually see a pair of metal testicles hanging from the trailer hitch.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm ultradamno:

Tearing out all the roundabouts might help, no one knows how to use them.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm Handy Haversack:

I have never had one, rose. So I guess it's clear that I agree!

I'm not going to go cause and effect and say it's phones or social media that have made for worse and worse ability to interact with others. End of the (white-people-only-benefiting) postwar boom has everyone trying to deny that their world is getting worse and worse with no end in sight that doesn't require actual reflection and the hard work of change. So ... call social media a symptom not a cause?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm Feldpausch:

Diesel engines release thick, black smoke. I think this is called Rolling Coal
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm Franco Twinkie:

Stay in New York City Mark. America is full of psychos in oversized pick-up trucks who would kill you given the chance.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm Rich in Washington:

part of the problem with people road raging - at least around where I live - is police aren't really doing their jobs - sicking out, etc, due to the outcry for more police accountability and road ragey people know it. Speeding and other violations are also crazy around here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm ultradamno:

Not with Mark's incident, but generally
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm coelacanth∅:

haha Pumpy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Ironic - or appropriate then ? - that running red lights is used as an analogy to not getting vaxxed ?
  6:24pm Listener Robert:

Bukowski, it's called "coal rolling" because it's as if it was a switch to burning coal while you roll. Originally the term referred to simply having a smoky vehicle, but now it's something certain drivers have installed to be jerks.
  6:24pm Peter from Dover NJ:

Tractor trailers will puff some smoke when changing gear. This is different from the yahoo's who modify their pickup trucks to roll coal.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm chresti:

Tweaker hotheads in big trucks.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm Webhamster Henry:

Don't smash that phone, let Daisy take it apart sustainably!
www.youtube.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm bukowski.:

thanks Robert!
  6:25pm Sam:

They need to have barriers pop up out of the road when the light turns red, so if you run the light, you smash into the fence before you can hit another car. Like at railroad crossings.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm Rich in Washington:

I remember reading somewhere that newer diesel trucks have features which eliminate the emanation of smoke but buyers find ways to bypass or disable this feature.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm annie:

even tracfone?
  6:26pm Peter from Dover NJ:

On the road, I think attention to cell phones makes people drive slower. Guy in the fast lane on the Garden St Parkway diving 50 while live streaming, OMG.
  6:26pm Micheal:

Just back from Western PA and witnessed similar driving and dieseling masturbation. Smart phones allow tribalism and anger - Trumpism benefited from idiots on smart phones.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

I can at least tell you that motorists in and around NYC have been absolutely out of their minds more recently, moreso than usual. The statistics bear out that moving and parking violations are way down as well in NYC, so as usual, NYPD is actively making life more dangerous for the citizens who pay them for alleged protection and service, not to mention cops are by far the most aggressive, entitled, and dangerous drivers. This kind of aggression is extremely intimidating as a pedestrian or cyclist. What an ordeal you had. Scary, infuriating. With smartphones at least, it probably doesn't help that most of the way parents blow off steam nowadays seems to be messing around on smartphones while idling in a vehicle and waiting to pick up a kid, or something along those lines. Drives me crazy to see some city employee idling in a car and playing games on a phone, especially when it's NYPD, especially when it's NYPD sitting in like a bike lane or smack in the middle of a park.
Avatar 6:27pm TDK60:

Hi Mark.
  6:27pm Listener Robert:

Sam, if you're serious, I think you can imagine scenarios that would show that's a very bad idea in road engineering.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:27pm Woo:

In Providence there are gangs of people riding ATVs who like to surround cars and basically terrorize them.
  6:28pm choggie:

In Fahrenheit 451, Bradbury describes that dystopian future filled with people hauling ass down the road in cars mostly kids hitting pedestrians and causing problems
  6:28pm Sam:

Maybe the aggressive driving is just part of an overall pattern of anti-social behavior. I find that in person, most people are very polite and shy, then they get in the car and let out all the pent-up frustration. In the old days people got it out in person rather than the road being the only outlet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm coelacanth∅:

i had a car that would release a cloud of smoke if i ran it at high revs for a little while then suddenly released the accelerator and put it in neutral, but that was because it had a gasket issue
(and it wasn't black because it wasn't diesel)
  6:29pm cArl from providence:

Rhode Island is out of hand. It’s like a real time Mario kart
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

So a perfect storm of SocioPathic factors.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm PaulRobeson1920:

Over 60% of Domestic violence is Alcohol related!!! Nearly 50% of violent crime is related to the drug Alcohol.
  6:30pm choggie:

@Woo.....dude. it's Rhode Island.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm DjLorraine:

Imo: "They are pitting people against each other“ divide and conquer
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm PaulRobeson1920:

I do not think smart phones make our society more violent…
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm coelacanth∅:

RR@624 -not at all
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm TristaC.LadyCaveBrat:

When I'm on the highway I have a game called "how many seconds." I move into the passing lane (while traveling about 73mph) and count the seconds until a giant truck is riding my bumper. Whenever I move over so they can pass, 9 times out of 10 they have bumper stickers that suggest that most people that drive those trucks are pretty unified in their politics and prejudices. I don't know how much a phone has to do with that but the truck as their compensating-for-something definitely does.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm JohnEBGood:

If you use your GPS on your smartphone like Waze it alerts you to accidents, intersections, accidents and traffic. It's how you use it! It is a great tool for driving!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm Handy Haversack:

Well put, Rosey!
  6:31pm choggie:

Smart phones definitely don't make people smarter....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm coelacanth∅:

DjLorraine @630 *ding*
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

I'll also add that we have a growing epidemic of oversized cars in this country, and it grows worse and worse. Notice how many car commercials almost exclusively or exclusively advertise large vehicles. Even sedans are getting bigger, but the SUV and pickup truck trend is killing pedestrians, which is to say nothing of the environment. By giving the types of people who would immediately jump to road rage these huge vehicles, with like no additional training or regulations of any kind required, we're creating a recipe for disaster. Now add in distractions from cell phones and onboard car entertainment systems too. Also this attitude we see with a lot of anti-vaxxers, that anything the person doesn't feel like doing is considered a violation of individual liberties, most certainly does not help the road rage problem.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm Woo:

The mayor of Providence loaded the streets with speed bumps which means you can't really drive, just crawl. One of them loosed a screw and my power steering fluid flowed out.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Hell Biden's campaign bus got roadraged in Texas.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm chresti:

A lot of long distance truck drivers are Sikhs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

SUVs are an example of Militarization of the Civil society.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm Carmichael:

Smart phones have killed bar bets.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm Smokestack:

Of course I only have anecdotal evidence, but yes Mark, I believe the level of general rage in the US has been sharply on the rise. I really noticed it the morning after the 2016 election-- I was crossing a main downtown street on foot when the traffic was totally clear, when suddenly a truck turns the corner and guns it. He switched lanes to the one I was in and continued to accelerate. I had to get the F outta the way.
  6:34pm choggie:

Sihks are the slickest people in the country....Sat Sri Akkalllll!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm ultradamno:

@chresti Big evangelical contingent too, much more identifiable by their truck decorations
  6:34pm The Butterman:

Woo, bring back Buddy Cianci. He was mayor when
I was in Providence.
  6:34pm Listener Robert:

When you have so few ways of getting back at a president of the country, road rage is your friend.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm bukowski.:

I deleted Facebook years ago (good riddance) however unfortunately IG has become a key component for customer outreach and interaction for my business :/ I wish there was a different alternative
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm Aitch:

Sihk and you shall find @chresti
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm ultradamno:

And you can tell people who didn't vote for Trump on the road by their willingness to stop at red lights
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Vehicular assault of the defenseless has been a technique of the Radical Right for a while now of course. Brave souls that they are.
  6:35pm cArl from providence:

Free buddy
  6:35pm Roland from Australia:

Smash the phone brothers and sisters
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:35pm Sonderangebot:

Should I update my iphone to the new iOS? I'm scared (I have no choice to have a smartphone for work)
  6:36pm Sam:

Lighting has gotten more aggressive in some places. Horrible garish LED lights that are so bright you can't even look directly at them. They put some up in my neighborhood, it's absolutely disgusting.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

Was JUST typing that out, Revolution Rabbit Nov63. One thing I noticed about that video was that the campaign had a bus and someone in an SUV, I'm almost positive. Could have been a very different situation if the campaign had smaller cars, which also just speaks to this issue of everyone getting into an arms race with who can get a car that's more and more like a tank. More heavy, more powerful, higher profile. And again, massive recipe for disaster to give total psychos way too easy access to these dangerous and deadly weapons, which can be modified to be even more dangerous and deadly (like raising a truck). Lot of parallels with the gun industry, not to mention that these road rage motorists may be carrying guns in their vehicles.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm joe mulligan:

@artie17 I'd like to see one of those trucks with the bull nuts at a stoplight and tell them their testicles fell off, I saw them drop farther back on the road. they couldn't confirm it unless they get out to look and I'd be gone at the light by then
  6:37pm choggie:

I smashed a smartphone a month ago before I was supposed to mail it back for insurance replacement.....one blow from hammer, powered-on face down....It burst into shooting flames, coolest thing I'd seen in some time....They got a melted plastic lump back, I got a new, replacement, NSA tracking device
  6:37pm David in London:

Apparently Facebook’s censorship filter has been having trouble with the English beauty spot Cockshoot Dyke in Norfolk. I had to laugh...
  6:38pm Sam:

I smashed a phone, I liked it
Avatar 6:39pm Juli:

So sad
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm JohnEBGood:

I love the rant!! Girls will be girls! Remove the phone and they take it to the street. You already know.
Avatar 6:39pm Juli:

Facebook is disgusting
  6:39pm Listener Robert:

And yet, the long term trends with both motor vehicles and firearms is that they and their environment have been getting safer. Used to be able to cite traffic statistics and crime in comparison to other means of death and debility, and say, such-and-such disease isn't so bad, vehicle accidents and crime injure so many more; not so much lately.
Avatar 6:40pm Juli:

I would like to use it and talk more about damage to the soul
  6:40pm The Butterman:

How the f does that dog type?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm Sonderangebot:

Dog doesn't need he just talks to the phone and it translates and types WOWzer
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm Woo:

Buddy Cianci would solve the problems in Providence. I saw him on Block Island right before he went to prison. I shook his hand and wished him luck. He did his five years and got rid of his toupee.
  6:41pm Sam:

Like Bitcoin. It only exists to help criminals.
  6:41pm David in London:

The pug cartels?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm Woo:

After listening to this I'm thinking I'm going to keep my flip phone.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm Bryant in TO:

I can't tell whether or not there's more rage these days, whether here in Canada, the US, wherever. As far as criminal stats go (for what they're worth), I thought things are less violent than 30 or 40 or 50 years ago. Is it the *kind* of rage that we think is getting worse? Off the top of my head, is individualized, atomized rage worse than it used to be (your run-of-the-mill road rage, your "I wanna speak to the manager!")? As far as collective rage goes, I guess "worse" depends on what you're raging against. I dunno. I don't get out enough to see rage firsthand.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

SMASH IT!!! yeah!!! (hi, Mark and folx)
  6:45pm Dave Miss:

Sounds like bingo the chimp has picked up some extra work on Mark’s show.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm Webhamster Henry:

"That blowed up real good!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm annie:

i've been saying for months that FB is becoming far more invasive and controlling.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm coelacanth∅:

regarding "suv"s -i've said it since the early 80s that people should have to pass an extra driving test, and suvs should be charged higher tolls and be surcharged by the state for the considerably less safe traffic environment, more casualties and damage in collisions, considerably greater impact on the ecology of the planet, and considerably more wear & tear on the roads.
it would be fair and logical.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm Mr. Pumpy:

Air Pods...I think. Almost all of my students have them.
  6:47pm Sam:

You have to tap one on the shoulder and yell Scuse me! It's not just the ear buds, people are totally oblivious.
  6:47pm David in London:

Yo, Mr Pumpy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm ultradamno:

They got some shameless product placement on the Brooklyn Nine Nine finale
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm Rich in Washington:

I like that Apple's Air Pods make people look like their brains are dripping out of their ears because that's often how they seem to act.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm WR:

They could have been listening to WFMU!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm adampsyche:

air bud the movie
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm annie:

i LOVE your rants!!! i don't feel alone now
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm PaulRobeson1920:

Well, smart Phones r as ubiquitous at the T.V. Gotta smash the moving image. On the whole, it’s
Time has come
  6:48pm Sam:

They look like someone snipped the cord and they didn't even notice.
  6:48pm choggie:

Invasion of the Pod People
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm PaulRobeson1920:

Toss yer clocks into the river. Hehehehe
  6:49pm Sam:

Smash your citrus zester!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm adampsyche:

i cast thee out, abacus!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm Sonderangebot:

Smash your hourglass!
  6:49pm choggie:

What this planet needs is an earth-facing XXX-Class solar flare!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm PaulRobeson1920:

Wana do away with drug cartels? Do away with the policy of drug prohibtion
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Smash your sundial!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm Carmichael:

Smash your stone tablets!
  6:50pm choggie:

Word Paul Robeson....let the junkies and flunkies do what they wanna!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm PaulRobeson1920:

Like trying to stop the ocean tides by shouting at the ocean to cut it out
  6:50pm ?:

I thought wireless headphones were silly but then I got a coworker at the next desk who is on the phone ALL day long
And I'm super klutzy and tend to get tangled up in my headphone wires and then knock tea all over my keyboard.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm annie:

oh!!!! this is the first winter-onset that i haven't paid any attention at all to clocks and time. it's sublime to wake with the sunrise and go to bed when it's dark.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm PaulRobeson1920:

@choggie & all—- Truth lawenforcementactionpartnership.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Harm Reduction for drugs works. But of course - Prohibition works fine for certain others...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm annie:

well, i'm retired, too, so there's that
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Let's get ON it!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

All I know is that I love walking around with a portable radio. It's so amazing sometimes to see people's reactions, thinking people don't use them anymore or not even knowing exactly what it is until I explain it. I always find it really interesting when you stumble across your more mundane "conspiracies," so to speak, like how the telecommunication and media companies do everything in their power to make sure people don't realize just how much amazing free over-the-air radio and TV content there is, not to mention stuff that's free with an internet connection. Granted not every media market in the country is great, and some people have reception problems, but generally speaking, it's just a lot of fun to feel as if I'm gaming the system and these megacorporations. And of course the lack of tracking that comes with the current over-the-air TV and radio standards doesn't hurt either.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Rich in Washington:

mirror give people realistic self image. smash.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm PaulRobeson1920:

Facebook will stop those drug cartels like a tissue will dry up the ocean
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Sonderangebot: I actually DID smash my hourglass!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Yes:

Can we hear the EFD bullhorn after the next smash?
  6:53pm David in London:

Seeing Zuckerberg doing the perp walk would be a lovely Christmas gift for 2022.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Handy Haversack:

Thank you for this, Mark.
  6:53pm Sam:

Google and Apple are merging. They're now called Goople. All hail Goople!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Will the Sound Guy:

I actually revived my walkman from 1990 to tune into 90.1 WMFU Mt. Hope
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Mr. Pumpy:

David...sorry I missed the video call! I should have told Michael to not forget and include me even though I was a bit overwhelmed with work.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Sonderangebot:

Mx. Baba Bee: by accident, for art's sake, or against the tyranny of time?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

Also, if nobody said this already, although Mark just said "metaphorically, of course," but don't smash your smartphones. The current generation of lithium-ion batteries can be very volatile and dangerous when pierced, in plenty of other devices too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm Little Danny:

Thanks Mark, inspiring and terrifying as always. These ten reasons could easily be spread over that many shows.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm Yvang:

Great show! I would smash my smartphone right now if I had one.
  6:55pm Sam:

Emotionally abuse your Alexa!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

Ha, that's awesome, Will the Sound Guy! Lot of fun, right? I really need to head out that way on the train one of these days for some biking or hiking. Really cool that I can get WMFU while I'm out there and doing those things.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm adampsyche:

can you use Signal on that lite phone thing?
  6:55pm David in London:

Mr Pumpy. Well, we’ve already spoken of another session, so it would be great to see you in that one.
Avatar 6:56pm Juli:

Anyone know anything about Fairphones?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Woo:

AT&T actually sent me a new fllp phone for when my current one goes obsolete early next year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm JohnEBGood:

Wow Mark ! No new news! Beat on the Brat!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Bryant in TO:

@Yvang: Smash someone else's smartphone!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Handy Haversack:

I just hope ONE person commenting tonight dumps their smartphone and goes to a dumb one.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Sonderangebot: It was Divine intervention!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm joe mulligan:

this weekend in Brooklyn! e-waste disposal on sunday at floyd bennett field:
www.eventbrite.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

The proper disposal of these devices is also a good time to think about how many resources we consume when we decide things like that we have to get a new phone every year or two, instead of getting a new one when we actually need one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm Carmichael:

Divine intervened.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm Will the Sound Guy:

I miss my startac
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm herb.nyc:

Thx for saying LESEC again, mark, re e-waste. I work for them (in food scraps). I love them. (I love WFMU too)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm PaulRobeson1920:

But but but how will i know when the Queen sneezes without my Smart Phone?
  6:57pm The Butterman:

Mark, on fire tonight!!!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm annie:

glad i tuned in today!! thanks
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

I actually did not want to give up my indestructible flip phone, Handy! I somewhat recently got another smartphone. Kind of don't have a choice nowadays, especially in journalism. I barely use any apps, unless I really need them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Carmichael:

I use my air buds so people won't talk to me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

What is Zuck worth now ? $137Billion ? Who can convict him ?
  6:58pm Sam:

Kids today won't put down their damn wax cylinders! Generation of zombies!
Avatar 6:58pm TDK60:

So much to consider. Thanks Mark.
Avatar 6:58pm StRts:

hey
Avatar 6:58pm Juli:

Fairphones seem legit but of course the apps themselves
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Webhamster Henry:

I can put a special Mark friendly encouragement set in my app Yes Session that will just remind you to avoid apple, forget facebook, get off google, and smash your smartphone.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm joe mulligan:

this episode felt cathartic. thank you Mark and all!
  6:58pm David in London:

Please close out with The Damned’s Smash it Up....
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm chresti:

If I smashed my phone I wouldn't be able to listen to wfmu!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

Thanks, Mark! I wish I could convince my grandma to get rid of her Amazon Echo devices and the Ring one too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm JohnEBGood:

As I look at my my screen and listen. Have you seen juniors grades?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Thank you, Mark! I APPRECIATE YOU!!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Mark. I'm now convinced my vaccine must have had 5G nanobots that are now circulating in my veins. Must smash self!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Franco Twinkie:

Thank you Mark. Very amusing.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Will the Sound Guy:

Thank you for the info Mark!!! Great show
Avatar 6:59pm StRts:

we had a song with the title "smash the phone" with my band.. hahaha
  6:59pm David in London:

Thanks Mark, that was cathartic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Feldpausch:

Thanks, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I tend to think my being a HeadphoneZombie helps me *choose* my Audio - & actually DeZombifies me...
Avatar 6:59pm StRts:

Thank you Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Rich in Washington:

Negativland are playing in Portland tonight and I'm going!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm chresti:

Thanks Mark!
MX BABA BEEKINS!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Webhamster Henry:

Update it first before smashing!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Feldpausch:

Great lead-in to the Arbitrarium
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm chris in the redwoods:

thanks, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Feldpausch:

Oh Rich... luckyyyyyy
Avatar 7:00pm StRts:

hahhaha in 2006 you couldn't update em.. anyway, enjoy:
www.youtube.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

TY As Ever Presenter MH !
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Handy Haversack:

Nice, Rich!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Woo:

61 people shot, 12 fatally, during the weekend in Chicago — including 29 on Sunday alone
  7:00pm Sam:

Smash your phone and leave it in Zuck's bed as a warning
Avatar 7:01pm StRts:

oops wrong song
ahhaha
Avatar 7:01pm StRts:

www.youtube.com...
  7:02pm Listener Robert:

Hah, I love that DJ Arb picked up from the comments here and said, "Rolling coal on other radio stations!"
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:03pm Ken From Hyde Park:

What a smashing success tonight!
Avatar 11:30am UncleMarty:

TY Mark - archived this show ...
First I heard of "coal ".

On the LIE since CoVid, way more aggro driving, racing, lack of cooperation & all most no traffic stops by cops.

In NYC, is a plague of "straight pipes" exhaust mods on cars - gives 100db + burst of sound followed by machine gun backfires ... Illegal but not enforced .... Thanks NYPD

An even scarier practice is the below, which slows the trucK very quickly and produces huge noise and smoke ...
From wikiP: .... Compression-release ("Jake") braking, a form of engine braking used almost exclusively on diesel engines, produces extreme amounts of noise pollution if there is no muffler on the intake manifold of the engine. Anecdotally, it sounds similar to a jackhammer, however the loudness is between 10 and 20 times the sound pressure level of a jackhammer (10 to 13 dB greater).
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