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juliette greco  valse de l'au-revoir   Options Serge Gainsbourg, intoxicated man 1958-62        0:00:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
brian harnetty  another way   Options the star faced one brian harnetty from the sun ra/el saturn archives        0:01:28 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Carroll Kirby  by the sea   Options my garden      *   0:04:32 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
erykah badu  umm hmm   Options New Amerykah: Part Two (Return Of The Ankh)        0:09:14 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
angel bat dawid  no space fo us   Options transition east      *   0:12:42 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
arthur russell  hollow tree   Options another thought        0:16:12 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
scotty  clean race   Options Johnny Greenwood Is The Controller v/a        0:18:39 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
The Heptones  only sixteen   Options sweet talking        0:21:53 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
 
leila albayaty  little miss   Options dans le soleil        0:29:04 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
kutiman  maasai in dub   Options wachaga in dub    Single  *   0:31:42 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
common  say peace featuring black thought   Options     Single  *   0:35:59 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
made kuti  free your mind (radio edit)   Options     Single  *   0:39:23 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
melenas  el tiempo ha pasado   Options Dias Raros      *   0:43:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
ela minus  they told us it was hard, but they were wrong   Options acts of rebellion  domino    *   0:47:23 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
sleeper & snake  miracles   Options fresco shed        0:52:52 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
 
dom la nena  golondrina   Options SOYO        1:00:28 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pauline Anna Strom  marking time   Options     Single  *   1:03:11 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
helado negro  November 7   Options This Is How You Smile        1:08:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
ubaldo  le gui (i els que no volen veure)   Options casa      *   1:09:26 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
helado negro  Todo Lo Que Me Falta   Options this is how you smile        1:10:35 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
alpha  with   Options come from heaven        1:16:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
bradley cohan  _3.10 ( feat sam wilkes)   Options studies, vol 1  phantom limb    *   1:18:26 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
cartola  que é feito de voce   Options verde que te quero rosa        1:21:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
captain planet  new story   Options no visa      *   1:24:17 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
joesef  does it make you feel good   Options does it make you feel good      *   1:27:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
kofi  me and love   Options black...with sugar        1:30:28 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
cults  trials   Options host      *   1:35:07 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
golden silvers  arrows of eros   Options true romance        1:38:20 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
tahiti 80  1,000 times   Options wallpaper for the soul        1:43:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
The Good, the Bad & the Queen  The Good, the Bad & the Queen   Options The Good, the Bad & the Queen        1:47:34 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
 
janet kay  lovin' you   Options janet kay: the definitive hits collection 1977-1984        2:01:51 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
79.5  facing east   Options predictions        2:04:47 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
victoire scott  l'amour en couleur   Options         2:08:24 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Leo Clarens et Ses Rythmes Orienteaux  cha cha au harem   Options Cha Cha Au Harem: Orientica - France 1960/1964 v/a  born bad    *   2:12:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
claude fontaine  play by play   Options claude fontaine        2:14:19 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
isabelle de funès  jusqu'a la tombée du jour   Options TCHIC TCHIC: French Bossa Nova 1963/1974 v/a  born bad    *   2:18:17 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
louis phillipe & the night mail  the mighty owl   Options thunderstorms      *   2:21:07 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Deep Sea Diver  Impossible Weight feat . Sharon Van Etten   Options     Single  *   2:23:31 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
joe bataan  under the street lamp   Options young, gifted & brown        2:26:36 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
 
erasmo carlos  menina   Options erasmos carlos e os tremendões        2:33:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
stark reality  nani   Options acting thinking feeling        2:36:17 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
snoh aalegra  i didn't mean to fall in love   Options ugh, those feels again        2:41:38 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
the left outsides  november on my mind   Options Are You Sure I Was There?      *   2:44:10 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
david axelrod  urizen   Options Song of Innocence        2:46:10 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
thee sacred souls  weak for your love   Options Penrose Records vol 1 (V/A)        2:49:45 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
the kinks  shangri-la   Options Arthur Or The Decline And Fall Of The British Empire        2:54:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am YETI BOB:

good morning Trouble and the troubled ones
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am Trouble:

good morning thursday modern peoples!
  9:01am WFMU listener John:

Morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
Avatar 9:02am dougseidel:

welcome to sunny earth
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am common:

trouble, all
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am Handy Haversack:

Good bright Thursday, Trouble and all the Troubled.

YB, how are you feeling?
Avatar 9:05am TDK60:

Morning Trouble. Do I dare try chanting without training?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:05am YETI BOB:

@Handy: Thanks for asking. The situation is not great, I just found out that a friend who I saw last week - who was supposed to be 16 days post-recovery - is now in the hospital with a 103°F fever. I'm still waiting for my test result but I'm feeling very run-down & exhausted and achy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am YETI BOB:

It's a bit ironic because I've been so careful. I haven't been seeing many people at all, I saw this one old friend to give him a bit of moral support & I might have gotten infected then.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07am Adrian in London:

Good day Trouble and listeners. I've had that Left Banke song you played last week in my head for seven days straight so thanks for that!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07am Trouble:

things could be worse @adrian...
  9:08am WFMU listener john:

@YB hope your test comes back negative
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08am Handy Haversack:

Ugh, YB, that's really hard. I wish I could do something from this remove to help. If there's anything I can provide, please reach out.
Avatar 9:08am dougseidel:

bob: I hope you fell better soon!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08am YETI BOB:

@HH: You're doing it right now, thanks. It's beautiful to know that there are people out there who care.
Avatar 9:08am TDK60:

Yeti, hope you can rest and get well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am YETI BOB:

@TDK60: Thanks. Resting is all I've been doing since Monday.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am melinda:

hi all!
  9:10am Emily:

Good Morning
  9:11am WFMU listener John:

@YETI BOB as a newish chatter on here, I have noticed that the fellow chatters are a caring bunch of people
  9:11am WFMU listener John:

@Emily morning
@Melinda morning
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am Trouble:

so sorry to hear, @yeti bob. zinc and vitamin C, these vitamins can help against this virus
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am Adrian in London:

@Trouble *looks around* Oh, things are a lot worse! ;-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am YETI BOB:

@John: It's true, there are some really great folks here. WFMU has been a refuge. Except when I woke up in the middle of the night last night and Bill Zebub was on, hahaha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am Peter from Dover NJ:

Good morning everyone. Yeti Bob: hoping for the best.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:13am YETI BOB:

@trouble: Thanks for the tip, I'll load up on zinc and ascorbic acid.
  9:14am WFMU listener john:

@YETI BOB try not to listen to the overnight shows need my beauty sleep:)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:17am YETI BOB:

@John: Not only nice and caring, but they really know a lot too. I've gotten some awesome music and film suggestions - the other day I got a tip about Skúli Sverrisson, who I somehow missed all these years. It was very comforting to listen to that, thanks Woods!
  9:18am WFMU listener john:

&YETI BOB one more thing, also there are a lot of knowledgeable people on the accu
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:19am YETI BOB:

Yup!
Avatar 9:20am Dances with Moomins:

Good modern Thursday to the Troubled, far and wide.
  9:20am WFMU listener john:

@YB cery cool from woods
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB You're more than welcome! A few years ago, my wife was actually working up here in Maine and I was back in NH. (I would be a weekend road warrior). During the week I would put on one of those two Sverrisson albums on to listen to as I fell asleep.
  9:20am WFMU listener john:

I meant very cool
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am Phillippe Bastille:

good morning
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am adampsyche:

good morning i love this song, i think small change and blt played it during a duane train fill in once
  9:21am Irene:

Good morning, Trouble folk! YETI BOB, sorry to hear about your exposure. I know we've been careful within our household but it's those occasional meetings that are worrisome. Out of an abundance of caution, we just cancelled our T-day plans with dear friends upstate. This all makes me very sad.
  9:21am WFMU listener john:

Morning PB
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am Buddha of Suburbia:

Trouble, you always put out such cool stuff!! Hey buddies!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22am adampsyche:

hang in yeti bob, get some of that rest they talk about
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22am Trouble:

merci @ buddha of suburbia!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23am karlward:

The Jonny Greenwood comp is so good!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Being careful: last Friday we had a guy come here to clean/inspect our woodstove. He was masked but it still freaked us out a little. We had the windows open and a big circulating fan going. Stayed out of the main part of the house for two hours after he left. Was that the right thing to do? Who knows?!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23am Phillippe Bastille:

Hey John! Yeti Bob, you better feel well soon! We order you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:23am YETI BOB:

@Woods: While I was looking around last night I found this: www.newvelle-records.com... - a Bill Frisell / Skúli Sverrisson collaboration. But it's on this ultra-boutique label and the only way to get it is part of a $400 "season" (box set of 6 LPs). Oh, and it's out of print too... but the one sample you can hear on the website is pretty great.
  9:24am WFMU listener John:

@Woods better safe then sorry
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB" (*** must......not..........look....***)
  9:25am WFMU listener John:

@YB will send lots of pixie dust your way
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26am YETI BOB:

@Woods: You should listen to the sample track - it's actually a video of Bill and Skúli in the studio, very well-shot. And you can read the liner notes online, which include a great story about how Jim Jarmusch just popped by for lunch during the recording (of course he did!)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:28am Handy Haversack:

Woods, I found that El Pais article that you linked to a couple of weeks ago to be very clear about accretive risk and what situations are most dangerous. My guess is -- unless you were in there unmasked with him for over an hour, you're OK. Obvs., one takes the most precautions possible! But it seems like ventilation, masks, and limited time are all good measures toward risk limiting.

We had a friend come back to NYC from LA, where he was pretty isolated. It was a real point of contention that he thought once he was back here among his friends, we'd all "cling to our humanity" by hanging out inside at one another's apts. this winter. Kate and I had to make it clear that we don't think that's safe and are willing to hang out outside but that's as far as it goes. It's still almost unreconcilable -- he doesn't see our POV and we think his is just wrong.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:30am Handy Haversack:

@Trouble: Fabio did his (numbered) 30th plague broadacst last week and had three weeks before he was set up do so and one fill-in: so I guess this is week thirty-five.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:30am Lisboner Pasc:

Greetings from Paris, what a great first set! Thanks Trouble :-)
  9:31am WFMU listener John:

@Handy i for one am glad the DJs can do live from their homes makes things semi normal
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32am Phillippe Bastille:

@Handy @Woods we're struggling with the same issues just with family members. Our oldest son owns a car repair business and auto dealership, so he's meeting people all day long; my youngest has a smoldering romance with a woman who lives with 6 other people (all grad students) and since she doesn't have a car, he's always over there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33am YETI BOB:

@HH: My friend who may have infected me has been going through a really rough time and he told me that since he contracted COVID and recovered nobody would see him. I've been careful to the point of paranoia, I've even lost a few friends over differing COVID attitudes. His doctors told him he was clear, so I spent a little time with him (indoors). Now I think that was a mistake, but I thought I was acting out of "humanity".
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB: Will definitely check it out.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am Peter from Dover NJ:

Handy, 9:28. You can't be too careful. We aren't doing Thanksgiving or Christmas. A friend called to go hiking a month ago. He said, we can go in my minivan with my posse. And I said no. Not riding in a car with 5 strangers, I don't know what they been doing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am YETI BOB:

you can be careful for 8 months, then you make one mistake and you're sick
  9:34am Irene:

Me too, Bob. Having WFMU DJs hosting live shows has helped save my sanity all these months. And because I WFH, I can listen more often to my favorites, like Trouble!
Avatar 9:35am TDK60:

Handy. Bonjour. My calendar says this is Week 36 furloughed. / Your friend doesn't seem very scientific to say the least.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:35am Trouble:

Bienvenue et merci @lisboner Parc
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:35am Buddha of Suburbia:

Yeti Bob, I hope you're okay. How are you feeling? Maybe you don't have it. I really hope you're okay.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36am Handy Haversack:

@TDK60 -- and he's a scientist! Trust me, I pointed that out!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:36am YETI BOB:

@Boods: I feel pretty bad. I've been trying to tell myself that maybe it's just the seasonal flu. Waiting for that test result, should be today or tomorrow.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

This station and the DJs have definitely helped to pad my sanity.
  9:38am Irene:

YETI BOB, that's so sad about your friend. I try to keep in touch especially with friends who are isolated on a regular basis through video calls. Even if we can't get together the check in is so important to both.
Avatar 9:39am TDK60:

Handy, he really thinks it's less contagious in Brooklyn than LA??!!!!!
  9:39am Crei6hton:

Morning WFMU!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40am Adrian in London:

Loving the music today, as always, but it's keeping me going right now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Black Thought is the bomb.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:40am sphere:

"from particle to wave"--that's a pretty awesome lyric.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am Handy Haversack:

I think Thanksgiving is also going to bring out a lot of people who were willing to isolate until they really don't want to.

This seems like a very good year for people to take a step back from Thanksgiving and ask themselves what they have been celebrating and why.

YB, arrrrrrgh, that is so rough!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am sphere:

hullo. i hope the best for you, YETI BOB.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am Phillippe Bastille:

hey sphere, long time no see
Avatar 9:42am TDK60:

This year I have /TWO/ reasons to avoid "Thanksgiving." Yes!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am sphere:

hey Phillippe! yeah, new job has been messing with my FMU listening habits.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am YETI BOB:

thanks for the outpouring of sympathy and suggestions, everyone. i'm happy to talk about topics other than COVID :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Handy Yep. We'll be doing hangouts/facetime for Thanksgiving. I continue to be amazed at how Americans can cling to their ignorance, even in the face of death. Maybe I should stop being surprised.
  9:44am WFMU listener John:

&Sphere there is that four letter word:)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45am YETI BOB:

@Woods: "Clinging to ignorance" sounds pretty all-American to me.
  9:45am Irene:

Handy, yesterday NY Gov. Cuomo said something to the effect of, "I love you, and that's why I'm not going to see you on Thanksgiving." (not his exact quote) Good advice, I think.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:46am melinda:

this is lovely
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:46am Handy Haversack:

Hey, sphere. Good to see you.

¡Melenas! ¡Que bueno!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:47am Handy Haversack:

melinda, this whole album is excellent. They're from Pamplona!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:47am YETI BOB:

@Woods: We might as well bring back the old Know-Nothing party from the 19th century (populist, anti-immigration)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:49am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB: Yes. Was reading something in The New Yorker about political divisions and there was bit about how delusion had become mainstream. It's really distressing and I really don't see how it can be fixed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50am Adrian in London:

This Melenas track is lovely!
  9:51am cl@m_digger:

Great pick I am have been play ela minus heavy recently
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am ifeelfatnsassy:

Clicky. Star.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Trouble I posted this during Clay's show but I thought you might be interested. Patti Smith is doing a livestreamed show the day after Thanksgiving: pattismith.veeps.com...
Avatar 9:52am EricResponsible:

My four year old just asked me to add this Ela Minus track to her playlist...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53am Trouble:

thanks for mentioning that @woods...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53am Trouble:

@eric...THAT is a very smart 4 year old!!!
Avatar 9:54am SHAGALOV:

♡⇢everybody!
Avatar 9:54am wizard frog:

We're all gonna be working for that 4 year old one day haha
Avatar 9:54am EricResponsible:

It'll fit in nicely between The Wiggles and TMBG.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am mariano:

Now I can answer the question I'm asked nearly every day: "Hey bub, you lookin' for trouble?" Hey Trouble, Crew, troubled children... gang's (almost) all here, greetings! YETI BOB: sorry to hear about your friend, best hopes for him and you. Back in June I had a pretty serious cold and I freaked the eff out till I got the results so I know the feeling.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am sphere:

@ Handy:

nice to see you too, :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:55am YETI BOB:

@Woods: I used to eat a lot of acid and I'd walk around telling people that "we all create our own reality". But when George Bush said "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality" I had to stop saying that!
Avatar 9:57am TDK60:

I have an idea: spend billions (instead of war) on remedial ed. for adults. History, science, ya know?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:58am Handy Haversack:

It's a thought, TDK60. It's a thought.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:58am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@TDK60 We can't do that. It's socialism. I read it on the internet.
Avatar 9:59am wizard frog:

🦉
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:59am melinda:

@Yeti Bob Thomas Frank has a book out about how populism has been redefined over the decades to mean something different than its original usage, I've heard interviews w/him and it sounds good.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00am common:

owls are the best
  10:00am ami ad:

Hello DJ. Hello all. Chirps from Brooklyn.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00am Webhamster Henry:

The little owl is up in Saugerties at a Wildlife Rescue Center.
Avatar 10:00am βrian:

We've been hearing from the owls in our neighborhood quite a bit lately.
  10:01am WFMU listener John:

@YETI BOB one more thing before i have to get going i have noticed a lot of teachers listen to this station and that really raises the iq on here
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01am Webhamster Henry:

No French Owl call records?
  10:01am Matt Warwick:

🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01am YETI BOB:

@TDK60: When I was in high school the gov't was pushing physics pretty hard - because we were still feeling embarrassed by being beaten into space by Sputnik. There was a moment when we were valuing science, but it was for all the wrong reasons - it was so we could beat the Russians, not so we could, like, know stuff just because knowledge is good. en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:02am Buddha of Suburbia:

Poor cute owl. Happy to hear Matt got a little pupper. Spiders are sweet and good insects
Avatar 10:02am wizard frog:

🦉 ❤️ 🕷
Avatar 10:02am Roberto:

Spiders are not insects, but they do eat them for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:02am Buddha of Suburbia:

This is so lovely!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:02am Handy Haversack:

Can I be sent to a wildlife-rescue center upstate?

Hey, ami. Good chirpin' out.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Handy You'll do anything to get out of rakin' the leaves.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03am Peter from Dover NJ:

Great show today, Trouble
Avatar 10:04am TDK60:

..ya know, get folks reading 'bout Louis Pasteur, or Audre Lord. But I suppose that would be tyrannical. So...
Avatar 10:04am βrian:

"Les hululements des hiboux," says Monsieur BirdMan.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06am Trouble:

gracias @peter...
  10:06am ami ad:

@Handy Haversack:Chirps ahoy. How's the north side holding in?
Avatar 10:07am wizard frog:

sounds like someone is poking the synth
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08am Handy Haversack:

Still cold, apparently, ami! But I'm going top bundle up, walk the dog back and forth over the bridge, and then sit in the car for an hour and a half until the parking cops go past.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09am Trouble:

it is shocking how little history we teach our high school students in the US. one year of US history, (hardly gets them to the vietnam war) and one year of 'world history'. no wonder people end up ignorant and selfish, they have no interaction with others and never learn to be empathetic
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10am sphere:

It makes me wonder if parents want their kids to be ignorant so they can mold the children in their image.
Avatar 10:10am TDK60:

Were there mask-deniers during the 1918 flu? (Shoulda been called the Kansas flu, not "Spanish".)
  10:10am ami ad:

@Handy:Busy day,stay safe out there.
  10:11am Barbara in PA:

You're welcome anytime, Handy :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:11am sphere:

@ TDK60:

Actually, I have read that anti-maskers were a huge problem in 1918.
Avatar 10:11am βrian:

The one is the Orange Crown Flu.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:11am YETI BOB:

@Trouble: Those "world history" classes are total bs/propaganda too. They didn't mention important things like the Revolutions of 1848
  10:11am Renato P:

Amazing seqüência!!!!
  10:12am Lucky:

I had zero years of world history.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am sphere:

www.history.com...
Avatar 10:12am TDK60:

sphere - thanks! Was just wondering. / Ya know, this gets overwhelming; think I'll emulate Adrian in Londonwich and really get into the tunes..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:13am Trouble:

gracias@renatap!
Avatar 10:14am ianm:

are you teaching this year, Trouble?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15am Handy Haversack:

Barbara! efd played the Passions last night, and Kate and I were so happy to hear it and thinking of you! Be careful, or we'll take you up on it and come to the woods until our wings heal!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15am YETI BOB:

@sphere, TDK60 - Re: 1920 - Did you see the hilarious fake letter supposedly written by F. Scott Fitzgerald where he complains about Ernest Hemingway not wearing a mask? "At this time, it seems very poignant to avoid all public spaces. Even the bars, as I told Hemingway, but to that he punched me in the stomach, to which I asked if he had washed his hands. He hadn’t. He is much the denier, that one."
Not real but very funny! www.mcsweeneys.net...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15am Peter from Dover NJ:

@ Trouble 10:09. Completely agree. What history gets taught is taught to advance the desires of the ruling class. Signing off for now, be safe everyone.
Avatar 10:15am TDK60:

David in London been around of late?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16am Handy Haversack:

He was around yesterday, TDK, and I had an e-mail from him this morning.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16am Cmurtha:

I'm not into conspiracy theories, but as a college educator the failure of U.S education is very much a feature, not a flaw. Very unfortunate. But, one must remember that mandatory education was meant to get young men ready to die in factories, government offices, or battlefield, and women were educated in so much as a good mother made more good mothers/good soldiers so its all about indoctrination of Nationalism. Now that nation states have lost their purpose in a globalizing world I think you are seeing the backlash and crisis caused by the slow death of 19th century systems. Time will tell though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16am Cmurtha:

Also hello everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16am Trouble:

yes i am teaching @ianm. from home, my school is virtual right now. I have been teaching from home since march. Working 3 times as hard as in person...I feel for my poor students who are so isolated
  10:17am Toothgrinder Tom:

Walker Percy the novelist was of the opinion that the only real learning is self-directed learning.
  10:17am mei2ti3:

nice set, this
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18am mariano:

TDK: David and I just traded emails earlier, all seems well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19am Trouble:

thanks!@me12ti3
Avatar 10:19am TDK60:

Tom, yeah, I knew an old house painter, self educated in history, quite the radical and a union man.
  10:20am Listener Gregory:

The music is all very contemplative today. But do I *want* to contemplate?
  10:22am Listener Gregory:

I heard advice on the radio this morning telling us not to let moose lick our cars. This is just one more thing to worry about.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:22am Buddha of Suburbia:

I love this music so much. Thanks for all you do, dear Trouble. Ken and you have the playlists! I am heading out. Bye gang!!! Yeti, wishing you healing and blessings in abundance. Bye gang! Au revoir mes amis!
Avatar 10:23am TDK60:

Au revoir Buddha. Yes the music is swell.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24am YETI BOB:

@cmurtha: I completely agree with you but I think things like this aren't really conspiracies - it's more systemic, a result of history
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24am Trouble:

merci!@buddha....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24am Buddha of Suburbia:

It really is just wonderful!
Avatar 10:24am ianm:

Oh, wow. They're lucky to have you. I feel for the isolated too. It's been so hard. The women in my life are working too much (full-time jobs, school planning on the weekends, homework and meals in the afternoon). Why does the gov ignore our pain?
  10:24am Slaboch:

Really loving this set!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24am mariano:

Bye Buddha!

Toothgringder Tom: my mom's college roommate was Walker Percy's daughter.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25am Buddha of Suburbia:

Bye Mariano!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Anti-intellectualism has always been around, but to me if feels like it has exploded in the last few decades.
  10:25am Renato P:

Cartola!!! Amazing!!! Thank you greetings from Brazil
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25am Cmurtha:

@yeti of course, the conspiracy I was referring to was all the de-funding of education and sabotaging going on now. Its a conspiracy in the same way many blatant, yet plausibly deniable things are. That was unclear on my part though.
Avatar 10:25am ianm:

The bassline and cymbals in that Alpha song reminded me of Massive Attack but fresher
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26am Handy Haversack:

(Though Walker Percy, much as I like him, had the advantage of being a white dude in the South, which makes self-educating a mite easier than for some others.)

Hey, Toothgrinder Tom! Bye, Boodz!

Woods: It's been weaponized. "Conspiracy" might overstate, but there is a definite strategy -- as cmurtha says.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26am Yes:

hey y'all
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am YETI BOB:

@Cmurtha: Understood
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am Buddha of Suburbia:

Later Handy! If you hear from Knormalish before me please send her all my love. We listen to another station on Fridays from 8-10pm on MasterZ Radio with a chatroom if you'd like to stop by.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am Trouble:

good morning @slaboch! merci!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29am Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, Trouble and free-thinking freeform formation.
  10:30am Toothgrinder Tom:

@mariano no kidding!
  10:33am Toothgrinder Tom:

@Handy Haversack howdy!

Nice show today, Ms DJ.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am Trouble:

merci@ toothgrinder...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35am mariano:

Handy: yeah, my mom's Walker Percy story involves going with his daughter up to Covington for lunch to try "Walker's famous chicken," which was prepared and cooked by his maids, though he turned each piece over on the grill one time to make it official. Still, hell of a writer.
  10:36am poor lost owl:

love this set since 10a - just the perfect healing vibe I need today
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37am Trouble:

i am buying books for everyone for christmas this year. trying to keep my local indy store alive...any non fiction recommendations for my brother in law who likes to know everything? he reads lots of contempo stuff from the library, so i need a deep non fiction title. sister in law says he likes history, etc
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37am Trouble:

thanks@poorlostowl!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38am sphere:

How about "The Toaster Project: Or a Heroic Attempt to Build a Simple Electric Appliance from Scratch"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38am Handy Haversack:

Covington is where Kate's mom's roommate is from/lives, Mariano -- the other place in LA we have an invite to.

@Trouble, China Miéville's /October/, about the Russian Revolution, is excellent.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38am sphere:

It's a lot harder than it sounds!
Avatar 10:39am TDK60:

Trouble, maybe some W.E.B. Du Bois if he hasn't read him, yet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am karlward:

Love Goes to Buildings on Fire by Will Hermes is great. Can't Stop Won't Stop by Jeff Chang is also great, the chapter on dub's influence on the Bronx is one of my favorite pieces of music writing. I loved Seabiscuit by Laura Hillenbrand (so good, so much better than the movie). James Gleick's book The Information is a deep but accessible history of the information age.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Trouble

Lentil Underground - Liz Carlisle (alternate farming out west)

Baseless - Nicholson Baker (freedom of information act follies)

and the best thing I've read in the past couple of years:

Year Of The Monkey - Patti Smith (part memoir, part fever dream)
  10:43am ami ad:

@Trouble:Hama Tuma - The Case of the Socialist Witchdoctor and other stories.
Avatar 10:43am ianm:

@Trouble

www.hup.harvard.edu...

en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar 10:44am Nick S.:

I always thought Golden Silvers were going to be huge! What happened? Hey, Trouble!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:45am mariano:

Handy: yeah, it's right across Lake Pontchartrain. Well, it's 24 miles via the Causeway, which used to be/still is the longest bridge of its kind in the world. The area's generally called the North Shore, which includes towns like Mandeville as well.

sphere: I've wondered before how far one can get technologically just using things found in nature. It's pretty simple to make a battery with a lemon, though I guess you'd need to mine/smelt some copper and zinc. And of course it'd be a sucky battery.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:45am YETI BOB:

@Trouble: Remember this list? docs.google.com... - it's linked off my listener page - a huge list (too huge!) of books recommended by you and your listeners.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:45am YETI BOB:

(it's editable if any of you want to add to it)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB: Right! I completely forgot about that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46am karlward:

Godel Escher Bach by Douglas Hofstadter can be thought of as a history of self reference in math, art, and music. Plus it ends with Godel's proof of the incompleteness theorem, which finally blew up the notion that math and logic are capable of fully describing the universe.
Avatar 10:46am TDK60:

I'm reading a book now -- 'The Explosion of Deferred Dreams, Musical Renaissance and Social Revolution in San Francisco, 1965-1975' by Mat Callahan. A look at the often obscured political context of the music, theater, radio Bay Area scene.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am sphere:

@ mariano. yep. to save the planet in the long haul, i think eventually we will genetically engineer plants to replace electrical and building components.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am Trouble:

my thoughts exactly @NickS. i troll them occasionally to see if they ended up in other bands. I loved that one record!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am YETI BOB:

That list is mostly fiction though - maybe I need to separate out the fic from the nonfic
  10:48am Slaboch:

Seconding 'Lentil Underground' as the non-fiction book!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am mariano:

YETI BOB: wow, I remember that list from a discussion on the Accu almost a year ago, really need to revisit!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@TDK60 Sounds along the same lines as Ted Gioia's Subversive History of Music (which I have but haven't read yet)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am thriftstoreleather:

@Trouble
Lake Antiquity by Brandon Downing
BreakBeat Poets: New American Poetry in the Age of Hip Hop edited by Kevin Coval....
I recently checked out a copy of, African American Poetry 250 Years of Struggle and Song, edited by Kevin Young
it's new, I've been enjoying it muchly!
Avatar 10:48am Nick S.:

My guess is they were a bit too retro? These days if I love it it's probably NOT what young folk want to listen to.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am Trouble:

thanks for that prompt@yetibob! there are so many good books listed here too. thank you!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49am YETI BOB:

Trhing to think of the last good nonfic I read (I mostly read novels). It might have been "Einstein's Clocks and Poincare's Maps: Empires of Time" by Peter Galison, which is good if he's interested in the history of relativity.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49am Trouble:

does anyone know what this phrase means? or where it comes from? 'the good, the bad & the queen'
Avatar 10:50am TDK60:

Woods, thanks for that suggestion. I'm about halfway thru the Callahan. Darn interesting.
  10:50am Lucky:

Now this is a great set.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:50am Trouble:

gracias@lucky...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Gioia is a great writer. His book on the blues is really good. He was my editor at the short-lived jazz.com.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51am sphere:

I think The Good, The Bad & The Queen was a one-off album by a "supergroup."
  10:52am ami ad:

@mariano:Hello,did a moving job to Covington many years ago,somewhere off Bootlegger Rd.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53am YETI BOB:

I'm a major fan of "Memoirs from Beyond the Grave" by Chateaubriand - one of my favorite memoirs ever. But certain parts of it are probably made-up, like his adventures with Native Americans in the 1780s, so it straddles the line between fiction and non. It's a fantastic book, Chateaubriand is sometimes considered the "father of romanticism" in French literature.
  10:54am Lucky:

I thought it was a mash up of "for country, king, and quesn" (as in, "he died for...") and "the good, the bad, and the ugly"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54am Yes:

rip tony allen
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54am thriftstoreleather:

totally putting that on hold @ the Berry @ YETI BOB
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55am mariano:

Hey ami, what's up!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:56am YETI BOB:

(he was an aristocrat, fled France after his brother was beheaded by revolutionaries, went first to England and then to the brand-new USA)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am steveo:

I hear Trouble, Matt!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am YETI BOB:

((most of it is probably true but certain parts are very outlandish, like when he tries to climb up Niagara Falls))
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am Handy Haversack:

I have to take off to guard the car and walk the dog. I'll catch the last half hour on the car radio. Thanks, Trouble! Fantastic show today. Much appreciated.

Be well, all!
Avatar 10:57am TDK60:

That Good, Bad outfit had a speed-up. Often I don't like speed-ups, but this one was okay.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am YETI BOB:

see ya later Handy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am mariano:

Take care, Handy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58am Irene Trudel:

Must dash to a staff meeting. Thanks for all the great music and discussion, Trouble!
  10:58am Adrian in London:

Just a play on The Good The Bad and the Ugly, I think
  10:58am Toothgrinder Tom:

The Good, the Bad and the Snuggly.
Avatar 10:58am TDK60:

Handy, don't let Bagpipe take /you/ for a walk.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58am Irene Trudel:

Wishing all good health today as well!
  10:58am ?:

Brit here! Not a quote or reference to anything historical
that I know of (but then again I don't know much!)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58am steveo:

God save the ugly
  10:58am ami ad:

@mariano:Still here,was in Manhattan Tuesday,no ice cream was had? How about you? Chickens still roam the streets?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:58am mariano:

YETI BOB: I read a good article on Chateaubriand in the London Review of Books a year or so ago, should check out his memoirs.

Bye Irene!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:59am enocaster:

Yes, a play on the movie title – a cheeky way of calling the Queen ugly.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:01am mariano:

ami ad: Haha! No chickens of late. Still kicking myself for not taking advantage of such a golden opportunity to ask it why it was crossing the road.

I els que no volen veure: "those who do not want to see" -- very fitting for these times.
  11:01am Toothgrinder Tom:

My plan is to knit all my Christmas presents.
  11:01am Jeffrey Davison:

Book, not new, but great: The Other Paris, by Luc Sante.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02am redbee:

If he's a nature person... "Entangled Life" by Merlin Sheldrake, absolutely fascinating! (Spoiler alert, it's about fungi)
Avatar 11:02am βrian:

I heard there was a new Harold McGee book, about the sense of smell.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02am thatpatsmith:

Nonfic: The Warmth of Other Suns. Isabel Wilkerson
  11:02am mei2ti3:

luc sante rules
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03am Planet Tyler:

Kim Stanley Robinson writes socialist utopia (sometimes) "Hard SF" which is great
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03am YETI BOB:

@Mariano: I'll search for that LRB article. I think it's worth your time to read him, I found the book compelling, hard to put down, and really felt the presence of his spirit from across several centuries. The available translation in English is only the part (first 12 volumes) of his memoir, there's more in French, I don't know if there's a translation in the works.
www.nyrb.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03am thatpatsmith:

Luc Sante does rule
  11:03am Aric:

How old is the person that needs book ideas?
  11:03am Tobes:

Non Fiction book recommendation

Boom Town: The Fantastical Saga of Oklahoma City, Its Chaotic Founding... Its Purloined Basketball Team, and the Dream of Becoming a World-class Metropolis

Sam Anderson
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04am The Oscar:

Mornin'! Busy working, but I'd be remiss in my film-crit duties if I didn't let everyone know that Lovers Rock will go live on Prime this Sunday :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04am ZeeBee:

Goodmorning Trouble and friends! greetings from New Mexico.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04am YETI BOB:

@redbee: Merlin Sheldrake - now there's a name. (I'm quite familiar with his dad!)
Avatar 11:04am βrian:

@Aric: For whom the book is intended, you mean?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:05am Trouble:

thanks @adrian! and @lucky!
  11:05am Aric:

@Aric genau. Exactly.
Avatar 11:05am βrian:

Non-fiction for 7-year olds is a category that's useful to me.
  11:06am Aric:

Haha, I can't comment. @Brian, yes, how old is the person doing the reading?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07am mariano:

YETI BOB: Ohhh, maybe it was the NYRB article I was thinking of. I read both.

For non-fiction, one of my favorites is a book on the history and racial politics of Mardi Gras in New Orleans called "The Lords of Misrule" by James Gill. I read it every year during Carnival (www.goodreads.com...).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07am YETI BOB:

it's Trouble's brother-in-law so probably older than 7
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07am redbee:

@Yeti: Yes! The whole family seems to be delightful... seems like young Sheldrake's brother makes nature-related music of some kind or another
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Trouble Favorite fiction read this year: Last Night In Montreal - Emily St. John Mandel
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:08am Trouble:

@aric: my brother in law is in his late 50's but appears to have been born in the 1850's if you get my drift...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:08am YETI BOB:

@mariano: NYRB press published the book, that's the link I sent you
Avatar 11:08am TDK60:

Trouble, does he dress steampunk?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09am Nardo:

Currently jumping into Rick Perlstein's latest "Reaganland: America's Right Turn 1976-1980". Recommended.
Avatar 11:09am Cat Stacker:

"I Got A Monster" Baynard Woods, Brandon Soderberg

www.barnesandnoble.com...

"The Sick Rose" Richard Barnett
www.barnesandnoble.com...

"Fashion Victims: Dangers of Dress Past and Present" primary sources, Alison Mathews David

blackwells.co.uk...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09am YETI BOB:

@Trouble: Then he might really dig the Chateaubriand (covers the period 1768–1800)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:10am thriftstoreleather:

Thanks for link @ YETI BOB. My library has a copy of the Memoirs of Chateaubriand.
  11:11am Julie Cummings:

THe World of Yesterday by Stefan Zweig. It's a beautifully written memoir. Vienna.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11am mariano:

While on the NOLA theme, there's also "The Accidental City" by Lawrence Powell, which is becoming the definitive general history of the city (www.goodreads.com...).

YETI BOB: Ah, I see, thanks. Responded before clicking the link!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12am Trouble:

good looking children's book@brian: libba: the magnificent musical life of elizabeth cotten with illus by tatyana fazlalizadeh ( the woman who does : stop telling women to smile)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12am thriftstoreleather:

I'm about to start The Cat's Cradle by Vonnegut
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

I need to re-read all of Vonnegut. It's been years.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12am Trouble:

i mean that my brother in law is kinda stodgy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13am mariano:

Trouble: your comment on your brother-in-law reminds me of a comment a British journalist made about a 92-year-old member of the House of Lords who made some highly embarrassing comment about gay rights. Paraphrasing: "Lord [whatever his name] is 92, but he thinks like a man twice his age."
Avatar 11:13am Cat Stacker:

"Arcatecture: Swiss Cat Ladders" Brigitte Schuster
Photographs of cat ladders.

www.ideabooks.nl...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13am mariano:

Woods: yeah, I went on a big Vonnegut kick in the early 2000s. Such fun reads.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:14am Planet Tyler:

Kim Stanley Robinson write socialist utopia (sometimes) Hard SF which is great.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:15am sphere:

Another good big history is The Birth Of The Modern by Paul Johnson. It takes a rather interesting spin on the evolution of art, industry, and capitalism in Britain during the 18th and 19th centuries.
  11:16am Jeffrey Davison:

Do Not Sell At Any Price, by Amanda Petrusich, about 78 record collectors. The Vanishing Velasquez, by Laura Cumming, an amazing true story about a 19th C. printer who bought a Velasquez at an estate sale, and how it completely changed the course of his life.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16am sphere:

this claude fontaine is awesome!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17am p/b:

late good morning FMUniverse - love from Bklyn
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17am thriftstoreleather:

yeah, I want to to read them all this winter
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17am ZeeBee:

I gotta run outta the house but dang this song and the light through the window are getting along so well!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18am Trouble:

good one @mariano
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Jeffrey Davison Fantastic book.
Avatar 11:18am TDK60:

P. Tyler, I've read some K.S. Robinson. His Mars Trilogy is something.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18am mariano:

Take care, ZeeBee!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18am tim from champaign (now washington):

@Mariano - I went to the Kurt Vonnegut library in Indianapolis a few years ago. It was pretty cool. His office set up was replicated right down to a half empty pack of camels.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19am sphere:

If we're talking science fiction, I just want to mention Gene Wolfe. So so so good.
Avatar 11:20am βrian:

54 degrees here. We have flung open the windows, though the screens do not have a N-95 rating.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21am mariano:

timFC: Wow, I'd love to go there. He's one of the few writers who can elicit completely involuntary bursts of laughter from me. Usually, even when I find writing incredibly funny and witty, I won't laugh out loud, or at most let out an anemic "Heh."
  11:22am Dawn the Librarian:

Yes, I’m a librarian. And I primarily read nonfiction and graphic novels. So I’m recommending titles that cover both here-
“Paying the Land” by Joe Sacco
“Grass” - Keum Suk Gendry-Kim
“They Called Us Enemy”- George Takei

Also, non graphic novels (aka “regular books”)-
“Fathoms”- Rebecca Giggs
“I Contain Multitudes”- Ed Yong

Plus link to NYT non fiction bestsellers -

https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/paperback-nonfiction/
Avatar 11:22am βrian:

"We'll always have Dresden."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:23am Trouble:

@ brian : owl moon by jane yolen is the most gorgeous young peoples picture book.
Avatar 11:25am βrian:

@Trouble: That's a perfect theme. Thanks. She already likes to imitate the calls of loons and owls.
Avatar 11:26am TDK60:

Trouble: Bro-in-law is too "stodgy" for Du Bois?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27am sphere:

My favorite graphic novel is Neil Gaiman's Book of Magic. (note: it came out before Harry Potter.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27am Trouble:

@brian:the boy who drew birds ( about audubon) is also a wonderful illustrated book.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28am tim from champaign (now washington):

@Mariano - It's worth the trip. Indianapolis can be a crossroads depending on where you're going so it's worth a stop. I'm reading William Burrough's 'Queer' right now. It's the first linear book I've read of his. I forgot how hilarious Burrough's can be.
Avatar 11:31am βrian:

"Vertiginous retching horror" is a well used phrase in our household.
  11:31am Fletchernyc:

Hi trouble!!!
Avatar 11:32am TDK60:

I am meeting two different friends today. But only briefly and outdoors.
Avatar 11:32am wizard frog:

Trouble 2024!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am sphere:

@ TimFC - remember Burroughs' Thanksgiving Prayer? So grotesque and horrific and funny at the same time.
  11:33am don_laine:

Trouble/Pseu 2024
  11:34am poor lost owl:

my rec: Patti Smith's Year of the Monkey - good non-fiction escapism
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:34am tim from champaign (now washington):

@sphere - Thanks for the reminder! Timely too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:34am PaulRobeson1920:

A good non fiction book - Paul Robeson’s “Here I Stand” published 1958
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:36am PaulRobeson1920:

Unwise and untimely that book is not
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:36am Adrian in London:

I'm more fiction than non-fiction too but I really enjoyed The Cartiers by Francesca Cartier Brickell, about the family behind the jewellery company bookshop.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:36am Trouble:

@tdk he's probably already read du bois. He is an serious all the time reader.
  11:37am Bryan:

all of Burroughs is linear....all a perspective...everything now is cut up...and arranged accordingly...the news is given in the same order as Naked Lunch was written...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:37am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@tim from champaign: I didn't know he wrote a linear book!
Avatar 11:38am TDK60:

..and, just in case you haven't heard of her yet, Ursula K. LeGuin, sci-fi/fantasy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38am YETI BOB:

@Woods: "Junky" (his first book) is a perfectly straightforward novel. So was "Queer" (his second, but not published until much later). The cut-up disjointed stuff came later.
Avatar 11:38am TDK60:

..and Octavia Butler.
  11:39am don_laine:

If your bro into alternate religious history check out The Immortality Key by Muraresku. Discusses the tole psychadelics played in ancient religions and paleochristianity.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB: I have "Naked Lunch" on my phone if I get stuck somewhere without reading material.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39am YETI BOB:

I also like "Exterminator" (short stories) and "The Adding Machine" (essays) by Burroughs. IMO you don't really have to read "Naked Lunch"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am YETI BOB:

@Woods: more power to you, I never got very far with that book!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am sphere:

Also Ann Leckie is a great SF author who is still writing very good stuff.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB: It's a little like Finnegans Wake. You can read starting from anywhere.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am Carmichael:

Heya Trouble and winners.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41am mariano:

Dawn the Librarian: Hmm, I don't see chinless Don Jr's book at the top of that non-fic list. I mean, just because his daddy leaned on the GOP to spend six figures on bulk orders, all of a sudden it doesn't count?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41am PaulRobeson1920:

“Soul by Soul: Life Inside the Antebellum Slave Market” by Walter Johnson. published 1999
Avatar 11:41am Sylvia (France-NYC):

Hello Trouble, and all
this has been a very pleasant show, thank you!
Avatar 11:42am TDK60:

John Dos Passos' USA trilogy, good for a fiction look at early 2oth century US.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42am PaulRobeson1920:

Buckminster Fuller’s 1969 book “Operation Manual for Spaceship Earth”
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43am tim from champaign (now washington):

A couple years ago I really got into Burroughs' cut up trilogy. Once I got into the rhythm (for lack of better words) I really enjoyed how the words worked together. King of like listening to music for how it sounds rather than focusing on verse chorus verse.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43am Niall:

That "Nani" song was incredible. It had that shambolic vibe I love about old Meat Puppets. Thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:44am YETI BOB:

@Woods: I can't argue! It's just not for me. I've read a bunch of other books by WSB though, and really liked them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:45am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Oh, almost forgot. The latest book that Ferlinghetti put out is kind of amazing. It's a sorta-memoir, sorta-fabulist fiction.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46am tim from champaign (now washington):

I once ordered a pizza from a pizza joint in Chicago called Nova Express. I was disappointed because the pizza was perfectly normal and symmetrically sliced. Besides that, It tasted pretty good though once I got over the disappointment.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46am sphere:

@ TDK60: Did you know that John Brunner's SF classic Stand On Zanzibar borrows its structure from the USA trilogy?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46am tim from champaign (now washington):

I've been meaning to read that Woods! Thanks for the reminder. I'm putting it in my on deck circle right now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:47am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB: Yeah, I went through a phase of trying to get through "difficult" books. So that included Naked Lunch and also Gravity's Rainbow. The very last one I attempted was Infinite Jest. I gave up after a few hundred pages.
  11:47am poor lost owl:

on my acquisition list (but not yet read): "The Golden Rhinoceros: Histories of the African Middle Ages" by Francois-Xavier Fauvelle
Avatar 11:47am TDK60:

No sphere, thanks. Another one for the list.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:47am YETI BOB:

(searching for "Nova Express Pizza" in Chicago - it's down on 79th, I've never been there.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48am tim from champaign (now washington):

@Yeti - I was staying in Bronzville when I tried Nova Express.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48am sphere:

@ TDK60 - Zanzibar ages pretty well and it's a classic cyberpunk predecessor.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:49am YETI BOB:

@Woods: I have read "GR" 3 times and "IJ" twice. They werent' difficult like "Naked Lunch" or "Finnegans Wake". Just long and complex. And I had some help from Douglas Fowler's "A Reader's Guide to "Gravity's Rainbow" "
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:49am Niall:

WoodsOfNH (now Maine) - may as well go for the hat trick and abandon "The Recognitions," too =)
Avatar 11:49am βrian:

David Axelrod is so recognizable, though I don't know this piece.
  11:49am poor lost owl:

speaking of psychedelics - (WFMU's own) Jesse Jarnow's book on the early psychedelic era also seems to have gotten excellent reviews
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50am sphere:

If you are looking for another difficult book, might I suggest Samuel Delany's Dhalgren.
Avatar 11:50am TDK60:

Poor lost owl, have we met? Good to see ya either way.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51am Polyus:

Well if this hasn't been about the perfect antidote to the doom and gloom blues today. Trouble has a finger firmly on the pulse.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51am YETI BOB:

I have a section on my bookshelf for "difficult" books I started but might never finish. "The Great Fire of London" by Jacques Roubaud. "Berlin Alexanderplatz" by Alfred Döblin. And, the inevitable copy of "Dhalgren".
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51am PaulRobeson1920:

Your Brother in law is interested in History?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am YETI BOB:

Also Robert Musil "The Man Without Qualities".
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am Trouble:

thanks @polyus: i'm trying to keep on keeping on
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am PaulRobeson1920:

“The historian and the climate of opinion”
Compilation of essays by Robert Skotheim published 1969
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am Yes:

Thank you for today , trouble
Avatar 11:52am Tank Top:

The slow jams have all been bangers today
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am PaulRobeson1920:

Historiography baby
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am Trouble:

yes@ paulrob... probably more ancient than not
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53am sphere:

thanks Trouble, you have done wonders today.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53am Trouble:

slow jams are my jam right now. trying to deflate the anxiety
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53am mariano:

poor lost owl: Wow, I didn't know Jesse Jarnow wrote a book! Will definitely look that one up, thanks for the mention!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54am PaulRobeson1920:

Ooo ancient history... Try Epictetus and all things related
Avatar 11:54am TDK60:

Sound sound selectings today Trouble. Au revoir.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54am tim from champaign (now washington):

Thanks, Trouble!
  11:54am ami ad:

Thank you DJ,Crew. Peace&Laugh.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55am YETI BOB:

I bailed on all the later Pynchon though - "Mason and Dixon" and "Against the Day" both rubbed me the wrong way.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am Trouble:

thanks for sitting in today, see you on thanksgiving!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am Carmichael:

One of the greatest Kinks albums.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am mariano:

Ohhhh, one of my favorite Kinks songs of all time! Such a beautiful opening, with the French horn (or whatever it is). Gorgeous.

Thanks Trouble, wonderful show! Thanks to the ever-loyal Crew, take care folks!
Avatar 11:57am TDK60:

..and ending with the Kinks is just so.... Mod.
Avatar 11:57am waters7:

I know that I've heard this song before but it sounds perfect today. Thank you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am Carmichael:

Substitute "British" with ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am Trouble:

merci@waters7! xo
Avatar 11:58am waters7:

xo
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am mariano:

Carmichael: right? Every bit the equal (or more) of "Abbey Road," which came out the same year. One of the few concept albums that I think works 100% through.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am YETI BOB:

@Woods: I felt a strong connection to David Foster Wallace, we were basically peers, same age, he was at Harvard the same time I was at MIT, and I think we may have crossed paths in Allston. I couldn't put "Infinite Jest" down.
Avatar 11:59am βrian:

Coming up:

Pseu's Thing With A Hook
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Continental Subway
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  11:59am KWilde:

Always loved Arthur
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59am YETI BOB:

Bye! Thanks for the excellent music & chat today.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Man, I hated Infinite Jest. I mean, what I read of it...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00pm YETI BOB:

@Woods: We can still be friends :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00pm Spankyflop:

Anything by Randall Monroe of xkcd fame is good for anyone who wants to know everything. Especially Thing Explainer.
Avatar 12:02pm TDK60:

Spank, have we met?
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