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Options October 12, 2020: Emptying Our Boxes (What's he building in there?) (Show #647/739) | Download full MP3

Contains musically magical rearranged fragments of:

LOOPS: Camper Van Beethoven, John Lennon, Kate Bush, Lemon Jelly, Jeff Lynne, Linda Draper, Bob Seger, Mark Mothersbaugh, the Mountain Goats, Nada Surf, Niki & The Dove, Nine Inch Nails, OutKast, Pink Floyd, R.E.M., Royskopp, The War On Drugs

MUSIC: Alice in Wonderland, Clem Leek, dj BC, Roots, Radiohead, Simon & Garfunkel, Jim of Seattle, John Carpenter, Jon Brion, Mark Mothersbaugh, Ole Jensen, Bach, Tom Waits

WORDS: Albert Brooks, Kathryn Beaumont, Andre Gregory, Charlie Kaufman, Christian Bale, David Lynch, Joseph Fiennes, Ray Winstone, Alan Rudolph, Garry Shandling, Sharon Stone, Harlan Ellison, Alan Watts, Pat Morita, Matt Frewer, Brent Spiner, Donald Sutherland, Julie Andrews, Richard Dreyfuss, Sesame Street, Stanley Kubrick, Leonard Nimoy, Skip Homeier, Boyd Gaines, John Lawrence, Sarah Jessica Parker, David Warner, Jerold Wells, Tom Cruise, Tony Robbins, Walter Murch, Wayne Dyer, Negativland/Wobbly, phone, Ken


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Artist Track Album Year Comments Images New / Special Approx. start time
Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza  Emptying Our Boxes   Options Show #647, from May 8, 2019  2019  What's he building in there?      0:00:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  Boxes   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:04:19 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  We'll open some of the boxes   Options   2019      * ***   0:04:53 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jon Brion  Jimmy's Breakdown   Options Magnolia  1999        0:08:20 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
OutKast  B.O.B. loops   Options           0:08:44 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jon Brion  Jimmy's Breakdown   Options Magnolia          0:10:19 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ole Jensen and his Music  Exotica   Options Chappell Recorded Music (LPC 1047)  1972        0:11:05 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ole Jensen and his Music  Bach-Style   Options Chappell Recorded Music (LPC 1047)  1972        0:12:11 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jeff Lynne  Every Little Thing (remix) loop   Options           0:12:39 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
War on Drugs  Pile of Tires loop   Options           0:14:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Wobbly, Negativland  Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission   Options   2019        0:16:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  Years went by, what was he doing in there? The boxes have the answer   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:18:02 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Wobbly, Negativland  Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission   Options   2019        0:18:24 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Clem Leek  Burleson, TX   Options           0:18:38 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Clem Leek  The Lights of New York   Options           0:18:51 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Carpenter  Out of Time (unused)   Options Escape from LA          0:19:12 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Sarah Jessica Parker  How long have you lived here? You should unpack. You can't unpack, bc that would mean you really live here.   Options 'Til There Was You          0:19:47 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio  Miyagi-isms   Options Karate Kid  1984        0:21:32 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kathryn Beaumont  My world would be a wonderland   Options Alice in Wonderland  1951        0:23:17 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Polly Draper  I want to terminate   Options thirtySomething          0:24:17 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Mel Harris  Don't have to do things exactly right. If you make a teeny mistake, who cares?   Options thirtySomething          0:25:25 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
thirtySomething  You can be right, or you can be happy   Options thirtySomething          0:26:08 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Paul Simon  The Sound of Silence (without Garfunkel)   Options           0:26:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Art Garfunkel  The Sound of Silence (without Simon)   Options           0:27:50 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Simon and Garfunkel  The Sound of Silence (bass only)   Options           0:31:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Sarah Jessica Parker  I'd buy you a piano, you'd hate it, 'cause you'd prefer to dream of some future piano   Options 'Til There Was You          0:32:22 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Camper Van Beethoven  Sweethearts loops   Options Key Lime Pie          0:32:48 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Lennon  Mother loops   Options           0:40:47 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Camper Van Beethoven  Sweethearts loops   Options Key Lime Pie          0:42:21 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Lennon  Mother   Options           0:44:27 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jonsi and Alex  Happiness loops   Options           0:45:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kate Bush  Hounds of Love loops   Options           0:45:55 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Sesame Street  Two men with ideas   Options     (Brief)      0:46:44 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bob Seger  Living Inside My Heart loops   Options           0:47:18 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  Assignment: Deliver a monologue. Keep speaking until you're done. Interrupt the next monologue you hear.   Options   2019      * ***   0:49:57 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Phone caller (Ken)  Practice: You're never going to call again   Options   2019   
Options
* ***   0:53:29 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  More vulnerable, less vulnerable, identification   Options   2019      * ***   0:54:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bob Seger  Living Inside My Heart loops   Options           0:56:25 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio  Miyagi wisdom   Options Karate Kid  1984        0:56:40 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita  Walk right side, safe, walk left side, safe, walk middle, sooner or later, get squished, just like grape   Options Karate Kid  1984        0:57:22 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bob Seger  Living Inside My Heart loops   Options           0:58:10 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  Staying in a lot more, so the outside world no longer knew what he looked like   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:58:55 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  What was he doing in there   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:59:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  House is amazingly full of boxes. Some of these boxes haven't been opened for decades   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          0:59:20 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Tom Waits  What's He Building?   Options Mule Variations  1999        0:59:50 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Stanley Kubrick's Boxes  Not too tight, not too loose (it's a lovely box)   Options Stanley Kubrick's Boxes          1:00:23 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kathryn Beaumont  My world would be a wonderland   Options Alice in Wonderland  1951        1:01:13 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kathryn Beaumont  In my world, everything would be what it isn't   Options Alice in Wonderland  1951        1:01:33 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Christian Bale  A sheen of conssumate professionalism   Options American Psycho          1:01:52 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Kathryn Beaumont  In my world, you wouldn't say meow, you'd say, yes, Miss Alice   Options Alice in Wonderland  1951   
Options
  1:02:41 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Lemon Jelly  Page One loops   Options Lemonjelly.ky  2000        1:03:40 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
OutKast  B.O.B. loops   Options           1:04:27 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Lemon Jelly  Page One   Options Lemonjelly.ky  2000        1:05:34 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Tom Waits  What's He Building?   Options Mule Variations  1999  I'll tell you one thing: He's not building a playhouse for the children      1:06:13 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Lemon Jelly  Page One   Options Lemonjelly.ky  2000        1:06:46 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita, Ralph Macchio  First learn stand, then learn fly   Options Karate Kid  1984  Nature rule, Daniel-san, not mine.      1:07:54 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pat Morita  Balance good, everything good   Options Karate Kid  1984        1:08:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Lemon Jelly  Page One   Options Lemonjelly.ky  2000        1:09:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
dj BC (Roots, Radiohead)  Nothing In Its Right Place   Options      
Everything in its right place
Options
Everything in its right place
  1:09:55 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Wobbly, Negativland  Over the Edge 3/15/19: With Your Permission   Options   2019        1:11:09 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jim of Seattle  Welcome to Windows   Options     Jim Owen, Windows 95      1:12:11 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bill Withers  Oh Yeah   Options           1:13:47 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Brendan Maclean  Stupid   Options Population EP  2014        1:14:31 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jim of Seattle  Welcome to Windows   Options     Jim Owen, Windows 95      1:14:51 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
HAL 9000  I'm constantly occupied. I'm putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think any conscious entity can ever hope to do   Options 2001: A Space Odyssey     
Options
  1:17:05 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Brendan Maclean  Stupid   Options Population EP  2014        1:17:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Leonard Nimoy  There are many who are uncomfortable with what we have created, it is almost a biological rebellion. The programming, the sterilzed, artfully balanced atmospheres. They hunger for an Eden   Options Star Trek TOS-The Way to Eden (Season 3 episode 20)          1:18:24 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Mark Mothersbaugh  Snowflake Music loops   Options Bottle Rocket          1:20:10 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Skip Homeier  this is poison,layers of shields,computers that run your lives,you've infected me   Options Star Trek TOS-The Way to Eden (Season 3 episode 20)          1:20:48 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bill Ehrhart  Found ways of keeping your thoughts well within the environment you were in   Options Vietnam interviews          1:21:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Tony Robbins  Breathing exercise   Options           1:21:50 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Donald Sutherland  What you've done is all right   Options Little Murders          1:22:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Brent Spiner, Matt Frewer  How the hell can you listen to four pieces of music at the same time?   Options Star Trek TNG     
Options
  1:22:07 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Mark Mothersbaugh  Royal Tenenbaums opening theme   Options Royal Tenenbaums          1:22:20 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Boyd Gaines  You know how we feel about parties   Options The Sure Thing          1:23:45 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Albert Brooks  While being a very nice guy   Options Broadcast News          1:24:17 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  Be open about your life. You will find the people who respond to what it is to what you are doing, and you will let them love you by doing that   Options   2015      * ***   1:24:21 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Nada Surf  Blizzard of 77 loop   Options           1:25:14 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Niki & the Dove  So Much It Hurts loops   Options           1:25:50 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Nine Inch Nails  Hurt (instrumental) loops   Options           1:26:44 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Pink Floyd  One of These Days loops   Options Meddle          1:27:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  It has been said that I usually end on an optimistic note. Do you feel empowered to make changes? Someone is going to change you.   Options   2019      * ***   1:28:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Nine Inch Nails  Hurt (instrumental) loops   Options           1:32:48 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
R.E.M.  Daysleeper loop   Options           1:33:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Jeff Lynne  Every Little Thing (remix) loop   Options           1:34:11 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Royksopp  Royksopp Forever loops   Options           1:34:38 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Sharon Stone with Garry Shandling  If you're not in your vulnerability, nothing is interesting   Options Garry Shandling meets Sharon Stone     
rip garry larry
Options
rip garry larry
  1:35:30 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Charlie Kaufman  I wanted to do something that I don't know how to do, and offer you the experience of watching someone fumble   Options           1:36:21 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Andre Gregory  There's got to be another way   Options Some Girls          1:36:45 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Albert Brooks  i feel like i'm slipping,but do people who are slipping feel that way,or only bc my standards are so high   Options Broadcast News          1:37:01 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
John Lawrence, John Carpenter  They are dismantling the sleeping middle class. We are being bred for slavery   Options They Live          1:37:16 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Julie Andrews  In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun   Options Mary Poppins          1:38:08 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Wayne Dyer  You don't blame your parents. You didn't know how to deal effectively with them   Options           1:38:36 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
David Lynch  I started selling out even before we started shooting. It was making me physically sick   Options   2014  Totally absurd to be working on something that you can't say how it should be.      1:40:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Richard Dreyfuss  Audiences know what to expect, and that is all that they are prepared to believe in   Options           1:40:46 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Tom Cruise  I will not apologize for who I am, I will not apologize for what I need, I will not apologize for what I want   Options Magnolia          1:41:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Walter Murch  Li: You get things you would be unlikely to get except by chance   Options           1:41:21 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
David Lynch  Business is run on money   Options           1:42:10 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ralph Richardson, Peter Vaughan  I will be free, and the world will be different. i will have knowledge of computers,supreme being created slugs,lunatic,i would've started with lasers   Options Time Bandits     
Are we not in the hands of a lunatic?
Options
Are we not in the hands of a lunatic?
  1:42:24 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Harlan Ellison  TV on in restaurants, and nobody watching. People are stupid. They feel imposed upon if you remove that giant tit from their mouth (radio is wonderful)   Options     You've got to have a good thumb, and that's about it.      1:43:20 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Garry Shandling  Stand-up allowed me to find out who I authentically am   Options           1:44:52 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Alan Watts  It's incredibly important to unthink at least once a day   Options           1:45:40 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ray Winstone, Joseph Fiennes  You have a decision to make. Every day we make hundreds of thousands of decisions. Decisions are easy   Options The Very Thought of You (aka "Martha - Meet Frank, Daniel and Laurence")    Time's up!      1:45:50 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Nada Surf  Blizzard of 77 loop   Options           1:47:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Royksopp  Royksopp Forever loops   Options           1:47:59 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Bob Seger  Living Inside My Heart loops   Options           1:48:48 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Ken  A blank piece of paper in front of you, waiting for your monologue to emerge. You wondered when you'd know. How would you know when it was finished?   Options   2019  Variation of Last Ever Feedback Page    * ***   1:49:23 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
  The end             1:57:47 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
 
Ken  Bonus 2020 outro   Options   2020  Over Bob Seger today. Not in archive       

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Listener comments!

Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 2:59pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Testing?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:00pm mb:

1-2, 1-2?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:00pm Phillippe Bastille:

The link worked! That's a good start, right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:00pm Rich in Washington:

Hello. Did I pass the test?
Avatar 12/18 3:00pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hi Ken. Comments will look the sameish. The bigger changes will be on the songs side. But comments will be different on a phone mobile browser!
Avatar 12/18 3:01pm Mary Wing:

Dynamic!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:01pm Rich in Washington:

I feel weird. Kind of dizzy. Is that normal?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:01pm chris:

very nice.
Avatar 12/18 3:02pm Mr Fab:

Hi Kenzo, how is this "dynamic" Any special bells and whistles in store? Free balloons for the kids?
Avatar 12/18 3:03pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Everything about the songs listing is super live. No more flashing page reloads once a minute.
Avatar 12/18 3:04pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I can even throw you all out to the bottom and then immediately welcome you back in...here comes that...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:04pm Phillippe Bastille:

@Kenzo the no flashing will make me VERY happy.
Avatar 12/18 3:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The page should look a lot better on a phone browser. (No effect on the apps...) wfmu.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:06pm Rich in Washington:

Ooo! Fancy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:06pm Rich in Washington:

There's no delay once you hit 'update'?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:06pm Phillippe Bastille:

The one thing that's a little weird for me is that when the comments autoscroll, the bottom line is half cutoff horizontally (PC, Firefox)
Avatar 12/18 3:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Philllllllppe Yeah, I'm seeing that too right now. And the auto-scroll/arrow thing isn't always kicking in.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:07pm mb:

I kind of like the flashing page. It has snapped me out of many cannabis induced hazes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:08pm Phillippe Bastille:

The autoscroll rarely worked for me
Avatar 12/18 3:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Well instead of flashing you're going to get sea sick from all the fading in and out of song changes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:08pm Rich in Washington:

It seems to have eliminated the persistent 'down' arrow at the bottom of the comments that I encounter w/Mac - Chrome. It actually prevents one from highlighting text - like if you wanna copy someone's name to reply.
I don't see thathere, which is nice.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:09pm Phillippe Bastille:

Dramamine, cannabis, all kind of the same
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:09pm mb:

Autoscroll rarely worked and sometimes the arrow stayed lit indicating there was a new post BUT there was not a new post.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:09pm Rich in Washington:

I could see me getting used to the fading in playlist entries.
Avatar 12/18 3:09pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah, the comments arrow/scroll thing didn't work right on some browsers and I think that's still the case. Maybe the persistent arrow will happen less, but I want to get that whole thing working better.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:09pm Rich in Washington:

Yeah, mb. That's exactly what I meant. It was sort of a pain.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:11pm Phillippe Bastille:

I think the down arrow was some kind of sophisticated AI/machine learner that knew someone was thinking about posting
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:13pm Rich in Washington:

Now I'm listening to two shows AND the House of Representatives hearing at the same time.
Avatar 12/18 3:14pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

If anyone wants to try it on a mobile browser I'd love to hear about it...
Avatar 12/18 3:15pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

One comments change is that if you keep commenting after the show ends and things are at the bottom, the comments will keep updating for a while; so, that last bit of convo won't be lost.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:16pm Ken From Hyde Park:

˙ʇsǝʇ ɹǝɥʇouɐ sᴉ ǝɹǝH
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:17pm Rich in Washington:

I'm on my Android phone now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:19pm Rich in Washington:

Hmmm. Honestly I don't know what the difference is, as I rarely visit playlists on my phone, but it seems a bit easier than I remember it. Definitely better than the app and unofficial app.
Avatar 12/18 3:20pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The text is more of a normal size rather than a crazy desktop page zoom, plus the comments and songs are kept separate (if your screen is narrow enough).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:21pm Rich in Washington:

Yeah. I'm definitely going to read and comment this way on my phone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:22pm Rich in Washington:

Yeah. Much better than I remember it. The app is really awful for commenting.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:22pm Rich in Washington:

Sorry if you had anything to do with the app.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:23pm Ken From Hyde Park:

On Windows Firefox browser, as comments come in, I have to move the scroll bar down to see them. The floating arrow thingie isn't appearing like in the previous version (when you click it, it would zoom you down to the bottom of the comments).
Avatar 12/18 3:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Not a thing (well, it interacts with my server backend of course) and yeah it's awful. There's a new one from a new dev right around the corner, though!
Avatar 12/18 3:24pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP If you reload the page once, does that keep being the case?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:26pm chris:

in duck duck go ios, i can't submit comments because the submit button is cut off
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:26pm chris:

same for safari
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:27pm Rich in Washington:

The preview/submit button works for me on Android.
Avatar 12/18 3:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@chris Thanks for that feedback. Any chance you can send me a screenshot? To kenzo at wfmu.org
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:28pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Reloaded and now the new comments appear at the bottom automatically.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:28pm chresti:

testing testing..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:28pm chris:

also can't resize page in either browser (ios), so there's a lot of scrolling
Avatar 12/18 3:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Yeah there seems to be a sometimes-bug on first page load but I haven't tracked it down.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:29pm mb:

Test

Sent by iPhone from the webpage not the app
Avatar 12/18 3:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@chris What kind of resizing do you mean? If I remove the image (doing that in a sec), does it all fit?
  12/18 3:30pm BH:

on Chrome, the auto-scroll to the most recent comments might take some getting used to (as opposed to opening the page and the bar being at the bottom already)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:30pm mb:

^Safari browser on iPhone
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:32pm chris:

no comments at all in safari on old crappy ipad running ios 10.3.4
Avatar 12/18 3:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@BH Do you mean, it's not auto scrolling? Or on first load it's not at the bottom?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:33pm chris:

oh let me check, Kenzo
Avatar 12/18 3:33pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@chris Oh I'd love to know what you're seeing there on your ipad...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:34pm chris:

yeah, much better when narrower artist/tracklist. i mean resizing window with finger gestures, just bounces back to whatever the page width is
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:34pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello from Microsoft Edge browser. Nothing unusual to report.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:34pm Phillippe Bastille:

When I scroll up to read the comments I missed when I was on a call, the floating arrow appears, so that's good, right?
Avatar 12/18 3:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Does anyone still see "Changing stuff at the top..." at the top of the page?
Avatar 12/18 3:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Phill Yes, that's good!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:35pm Phillippe Bastille:

Nope
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:35pm chris:

Kenzo, on ipad, empty comments column - no comments, no post comment box
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:36pm ParUbi:

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:36pm chris:

actually on iphone, looks like the width is defined by size of artist/tracklist table
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:36pm Phillippe Bastille:

Test song pop-ups are working
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:37pm chris:

yes on iphone and ipad to the changing stuff at top... line. not on chrome, tho
  12/18 3:37pm BH:

Kenzo, I mean, it appears to be working. Open site, the comments bar starts at the top and scrolls to the most recent comments. As opposed to opening and already being at the most recent.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:38pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I take that back about M.E. browser. It's not repainting the comments. The comment at 3:33 is at the bottom and it's overlaying new comments as they arrive. Will try sending a picture.
Avatar 12/18 3:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Who sees "Do you only see this" and also sees "Changing stuff at the top..." below it?
Avatar 12/18 3:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Eeek, it's writing new comments on top of old comments?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:39pm chris:

after page reload, the changing stuff at top line went away everywhere
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:39pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Raises hand ... I see that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:40pm ParUbi:

I see Max from Pi
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:40pm Phillippe Bastille:

I only see the this but not the also. Viewing on Firefox and Opera (talent!)
Avatar 12/18 3:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah, it'll def go away after page reload, but it shouldn't have been there...
Avatar 12/18 3:40pm Martinibomb:

Tes test.. is this thing on?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:41pm chris:

love, love, love the way the table rebuilds itself!
Avatar 12/18 3:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah I've gotta make this a bit resizeable in mobile view.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:44pm Phillippe Bastille:

Not that any sane person would be viewing the playlist on two different browsers at the same time, but the dynamic changes happen at different times on the two browsers, sometimes first on Firefox, sometimes first on Opera
Avatar 12/18 3:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Now a whole redraw of the comments section will happen...
Avatar 12/18 3:45pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@PB Heh, that's OK.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:45pm Phillippe Bastille:

Redraw worked on Firefox, couldn't tell on Opera
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:45pm ParUbi:

Everything is active.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:47pm Phillippe Bastille:

Funny watching the two Shatners at the same time. On one side his head is whipping left, the other whipping right. Both are satisfying to watch each and of themselves, but together its pure heaven
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:48pm -Ken:

Song list is updating very gracefully on W7, Chrome 79.0
  12/18 3:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Test here
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:49pm Ken From Hyde Park:

OK, sent over a picture from Windows 10 and the Edge browser. I don't usually use that, but fired it up to see how it worked.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:51pm Phillippe Bastille:

Not sure if this is relevant or just interesting, but on Firefox kenzo's name is in white, Ken from HP and mine are in red, everyone else's is green. On Opera, everybody's green.
Avatar 12/18 3:55pm still b/p:

Commenter names turn red in Chrome after you have clicked on them to look at listener profile. Didja look? Didjaaaaa..?
Avatar 12/18 3:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Visited profile link color is different from non-visited.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:56pm Rich in Washington:

Dammit. I missed the twin shatner heads!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:57pm Rich in Washington:

I never noticed the name color changing thing before. This is not new, is it?
Avatar 12/18 3:58pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Not new
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 3:59pm Ken From Hyde Park:

In the previous version, I could make the comments column wider or narrower. It seems to be at a fixed width now. Similar for the "Post comment!" box. Can't make it taller or shorter. It's a fixed height.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:00pm Rich in Washington:

Funny. I'd long noted that some people's names were differently colored but never knew why. Pathologically, just thought to myself that's it's because everyone is better than me.
I possessed the ability to change my name color all along.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:02pm Rich in Washington:

Is it significantly different under the hood for programmers, Kenzo?
Avatar 12/18 4:03pm still b/p:

Everyone must now click on alternate names in the whole comment stack -- A, not B, then C, not D. Making red/green. Because Christmas.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:03pm Phillippe Bastille:

Hmm, don't think I ever looked at Ken's profile. Pretty sure I looked at Rich's and it is green (Rich, are you the guy who started a show on Sheena, or was that someone else's profile I looked at?). Looked at still b/p on Opera and it is red but is still green on Firefox. I need to close one of these before I go crazy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:04pm Rich in Washington:

I did start a show on Sheena's! I'm still starting it every week!
Avatar 12/18 4:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Rich, what are you asking?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:05pm Rich in Washington:

I see now that people's names/profile links just follow visited link behaviors.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:06pm Phillippe Bastille:

Then I DID look at your profile. But your name is still green (sigh). Ken from HP, you don't have a show, do you?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:06pm Rich in Washington:

Oh, just curious what the programmer side of the playlist will look like, if it's significantly different, etc.
I can take my answers off the air.
Avatar 12/18 4:06pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I mean about programmers
Avatar 12/18 4:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

You mean for DJ's, ah. No changes there.
Avatar 12/18 4:08pm Mr Fab:

Doesn't seem much different on desktop PC/Google, but agreed on the Android phone - MUCH improved, thank you, good sir!
Avatar 12/18 4:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hmm I can make mobile zoom-inable but not zoom-outable.
Avatar 12/18 4:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

On mobile, I'm finding this new way where you might have to scroll left and right on the songs list if it's very detailed to be far better than the old way.
Avatar 12/18 4:12pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Thanks for screenshot about the W10 Edge Browser issue. Serious...happening consistently, comments are always getting overlaid?
Avatar 12/18 4:14pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP If you reload your page, wait for one comment to come, and then show me that screenshot, I could better understand what on earth is happening there.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:19pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Out for a quick walk. Will make another screenshot when I get back.
Emoji test: ♥️ ☠️
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:21pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Santa and football emojis and text that followed did not appear.
Avatar 12/18 4:24pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

That's probably not a new problem. Some newer unicode doesn't work here yet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:28pm Ike:

Greetings, humans!
Avatar 12/18 4:28pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hi Ike! Watch the songs list for a sec
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:37pm Ike:

Oops, sorry, I may have missed something in the songs list because I was working.
Avatar 12/18 4:39pm still b/p:

Quite unrelated to important visual and technical assessments, but a thin degree of fun: When I grab any edge of the browser window to adjust size, Shatner slows down and gets haltingly slappy while the adjustment is active, like his paw's taking a dramatic pause.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:42pm Ike:

In Chrome it seems even harder than usual to adjust the frame size. It's always a pain in Chrome (I prefer Firefox, but there are work issues).
Avatar 12/18 4:43pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Which frame size...be specific?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:44pm Ike:

When trying to grab the vertical line between the comments and the main playlist window and move it left or right.
Avatar 12/18 4:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Is it even possible anymore?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:49pm Ike:

Not as far as I can tell, but I haven't been able to devote much time to it.
Avatar 12/18 4:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah, can't do it anymore, although I'd like to restore that ability. Thanks for mentioning!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:53pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I minimized the Edge browser window before taking my break and it seems to be behaving normally now. Going to try closing the window and opening a new one.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:54pm Ken From Hyde Park:

And that comment broke it again. I have a fresh screengrab to send.
Avatar 12/18 4:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Is this an otherwise normal computer and normal-working browser?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 4:56pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Yes, up-to-date Windows 10 and as far as I know Edge is up to date. I normally use Firefox.
Avatar 12/18 4:57pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I look forward to seeing if others have Edge issues today too.
Avatar 12/18 4:58pm still b/p:

Don't know if this matters or you already covered it:
When adjusting browser window size horizontally to be smaller, going from either left or right, everything at the top and the comments area adapts with line-breaks, etc. to stay "whole" and visible, but the actual playlist grid stays same size/layout and gets covered up by the comments stack as it slides across. Eventually, at the max horiz adjustment it'll let me do, the left section of the playlist is only visible to half the "Format" column.
On Irwin's now-active playlist, his 3 columns do reduce themselves horizontally to stay visible.
On David W now-active playlist, the horizontal adjustment will have comment area moving over to cover just his far-right DJ comment column.
Make sense?
Avatar 12/18 4:59pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@still, which browser and OS?
Avatar 12/18 5:02pm still b/p:

Chrome Version 79.0.3945.79
on an old Mac,
OS X El Capitan 10.11.6
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:03pm fred:

Hello Kenzo and all
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:06pm chresti:

Looking with a chrome browser on a windows 10 laptop, I don't see much difference except the fade-in when a new track or image appears
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:06pm ParUbi:

Re-joining, hello everyone.
Avatar 12/18 5:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The fact that each new song is fading in twice instead of once is not a sign of a problem...it only has to do with a very unusual thing I have to do with today's playlist.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:11pm chresti:

I like the fade-in effect
Avatar 12/18 5:13pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Test in a mobile or tablet browser if you can! wfmu.org...
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:14pm fred:

Looks good to me, now that I know the second fade-in is intentional. Should I be looking at anything special?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:15pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Observation on Android / Chrome: with the phone vertical, you must choose either the song playlist grid or the comments. Turn the phone sideways and in landscape mode, you see both.
Avatar 12/18 5:16pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP: That's by design. Do you see the button to switch back and forth?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:17pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Yes, it works well.
Avatar 12/18 5:19pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Someone try favoriting new songs if you haven't yet.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:21pm Ike:

Favoriting seems OK on an iPhone Ghostery browser.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:21pm fred:

The timestamp in the rightmost column only appears on the second fade-in, but I guess that's intentional
Also, the font in the comment box looks bigger than usual
Avatar 12/18 5:21pm Mr Fab:

I favorited a song. Got the yellow star.
Avatar 12/18 5:21pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I'll have to increase the frequency of favorites data updates, so you aren't disturbed by the disappearance of your star for 30 seconds before it comes back.
Avatar 12/18 5:22pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

When a song gets updated, star might go away and then come back on its own, which isn't a new issue, always confuses some people, but will happen more now with the frequent song updates...will adjust soon.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:24pm Rich in Washington:

The stars are coming out. There's a voice saying 'the stars are coming out'.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:25pm Ken From Hyde Park:

At some point, will there be "thumbs down" boxes for Felder tracks?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:27pm fred:

Very minor detail: when a new comment comes up, the last line is not completely visible, I have to scroll down a little (this doesn't happen on Irwin's playlist (Firefox 71.0, Windows 10 1903/18362.535)
Avatar 12/18 5:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@fred Yeah for me too and others...

Is auto-scroll/arrow thing working for you? It's supposed to auto-scroll to next comment if you're already at the bottom, or fade the arrow into view if you're not at the bottom, and then arrow disappear after you scroll to bottom or after you click it, which also scrolls to bottom.
Avatar 12/18 5:29pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Oh yeah I forgot I can play with colors
Avatar 12/18 5:30pm still b/p:

A pumpkin spice seizure!
Avatar 12/18 5:31pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Reload the page once, and then I can play with background colors subsequently.
Avatar 12/18 5:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Anyone have a good idea for a font? And I wonder if different font make comment space at bottom go away.
Avatar 12/18 5:35pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Nope it doesn't.
Avatar 12/18 5:36pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Can't believe my phone doesn't support comic sans
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:36pm fred:

The auto-scroll arrow did appear and worked as described
Avatar 12/18 5:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Anyone else using Edge? Seems problematic from one report...
Anyone else have an iPad or other tablet to test on?
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:37pm Ken From Hyde Park:

What was that one? Comic Sans? It went to the separator line for that one. Otherwise, it seems to be the bottom-most pixel of the text.
Avatar 12/18 5:39pm still b/p:

I x n a y
o n
i s t h a y
o n t f a y.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:39pm chresti:

The font is different
  12/18 5:40pm Dave In St Albans UK:

I am using the "unofficial" Woof Moo WFMU app on Android. Everything on all streams working perfectly. Like a dream!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:40pm chresti:

now it's better
Avatar 12/18 5:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

The app is unaffected. I'm looking for people to test from mobile browsers.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:42pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I notice that on the phone, I can make the page reload by swiping down. Couldn't do that on the old version. Had to navigate to the refresh icon.
Avatar 12/18 5:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I really want to automate the rapid changing of colors. It'll be such a hit
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:44pm Rich in Washington:

oh, that's crazy. I keep thinking there's something wrong with my monitors
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:45pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Dͨ͗̇ͥͩ̇ͥo͗͐ͣe̲̖̤̗ͨͣͭ̃s̖͇͒̃ t̠̼̣͓̘̱̃ͩ̑̓͛͒h͉̯̳̰͙̼͋͆ͤ̉̎̋i͒͒s̘̗̫̭̹̝̓͊͐ͫ̃̂ ̖͇̦̘͖̳̆̋̓̿̈̉me̥̬͓͈͉̗͑̈́ͥ͆̉̄s̝̯͍̤s̱̫̬͂͆̾ up͐̌̽͊ ͭ̄ͮ̋̀a̜̪̳̯̩̲͇ͫ͊ͯ̉̆̍ͩn̎̄ͧ̇̐y͒̈́̀ṭ̼̗̞̰̒̈̊ͤ͋h̺̮͓̯̜ͅi̥̫̞̭̲̝̓ͦ͛ͬ͗̀n̘̼͂̒ġ͗̎͋̓̒̌?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:46pm Ike:

Auto-color change would be hilarious.
Avatar 12/18 5:48pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP: Actually, it DOES mess up some things! How interesting.
  12/18 5:49pm Dave in St Alban's UK:

Using Edge on Android. Comments section displaying nicely with the background colour changing. Fun! I can't shrink the playlist to fit my screen though.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:49pm Ken From Hyde Park:

www.zalgogenerator.com
Avatar 12/18 5:49pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Dave Yeah, I can't find a way to allow mobile shrinking...
  12/18 5:52pm tester:

Not sure if I'm the only one experiencing this, but the comments & posting parts of the page are empty on Safari (version 12 on iPad, version 13 on Mac/Catalina)
Avatar 12/18 5:52pm still b/p:

iPhone 8 v 13.1.2
When I go sideways, I get playlist and it makes some right-side space for comment column but there's nothing there in that column, just bg color without any text, lines, boxes, borders.
I can do the back and forth full-screen from list to comments if holding phone in vertical orientation.
Avatar 12/18 5:52pm Martinibomb:

awesome looking!
Avatar 12/18 5:52pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hi, tester. Can you be more specific? A screenshot would be really nice, too. Send to kenzo at wfmu.org
Avatar 12/18 5:53pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

It sounds like tablet responsive view isn't working right, or maybe it's iOS specific...
  12/18 5:54pm tester:

OK (BTW it's ok on iOS for iPhone)
Avatar 12/18 5:54pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I wonder if an arrow-like effect is needed for the songs list as well, so you know there's something at the bottom to scroll to see. I keep forgetting to scroll.
  12/18 5:55pm Dave in St Alban's UK:

Really like the crazy background and text colour changes. Some combinations are easier on the eyes. :-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:55pm Rich in Washington:

Oh man! My cones and rods! I am bleeding from the eyeholes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:55pm ParUbi:

This is a pretty unreadable combination :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:56pm ParUbi:

well, it was
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:57pm Rich in Washington:

uh oh! Someone left the playlist out in the sun or washed it in warm water or both.
Avatar 12/18 5:57pm northguineahills:

The comments overlaying on each other reflect the lyrical content of the show.
Avatar 12/18 5:58pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I want to do a BPM-synched color changing effect.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 5:59pm fred:

A playlist arrow might be useful for your show, but maybe not many others
Avatar 12/18 6:00pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Yeah I was thinking that. But maybe....
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:00pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Image observation: with the old version, if you click on an image to enlarge it, you could use the up- or down-arrow key to go to the next one and enlarge it. With this version, they keys scroll the page up/down and the enlarged image moves with along with the page.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:00pm ParUbi:

Karate means "empty hand" right? So where isn't karate? When you're holding something. Bam!
Avatar 12/18 6:01pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Lemme add more images and see
Avatar 12/18 6:01pm still b/p:

T-Mobile will sue you if you use magenta. They've sued others.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:02pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I should amend that. The up/down arrow makes the image go back to its embedded state.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:02pm fred:

Well, if you have the code for the arrow and it doesn't mess up the rest, why not?
Avatar 12/18 6:02pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I think a song arrow is needed for anyone. It's awkward scrolling to top and bottom over and over, you don't know where to sit on the page.
Avatar 12/18 6:04pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP: The arrow issue goes away if you reload the page after there are multiple images. So the issue is that when I dynamically add an image to the page, it doesn't get added to the list of arrow-reachable images. Will add to my list...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:05pm Rich in Washington:

I had to look that up, still b/p. That's nuts.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:05pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

oooh, fancy!
Avatar 12/18 6:05pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@fred It's awkward because there's other junk below the playlist.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:05pm Ken From Hyde Park:

<Spock voice> Fascinating.
Avatar 12/18 6:06pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Color show for Tuna...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:07pm Rand al'Thor:

Ooh, new playlist stuff!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:07pm Ken From Hyde Park:

OK, yeah. I reload the page and now I can embiggen Kirk or the disco colors using the arrows.
Avatar 12/18 6:07pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Welcome to a new world ish
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:07pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

WOW!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:08pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

ouch!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:08pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

that fade is so fancy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:09pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

is it white on white??!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:09pm Phillippe Bastille:

Came back for the music, staying for the test.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:09pm Phillippe Bastille:

Also the other way around
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:09pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

or i guess it's called a dissolve?
Avatar 12/18 6:09pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

All the worst colors, all at once. The inside joke is that all color changing abilities will be going away site-wide before long.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:10pm Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

whatever it is, fun!
Avatar 12/18 6:10pm still b/p:

Filling it softly with his tracks,
Filling it softly....with his tracks...
Avatar 12/18 6:13pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@KenFHP Now I have two separate cursor key worlds, one for new image and one for prior imageS.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:15pm Phillippe Bastille:

Ok, was scrolling the playlist and when I hovered over the comments they would not scroll. When I clicked in the comments window it would then scroll. The playlist scrolled whether I clicked in it or not
Avatar 12/18 6:15pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@PB Hovered? Hard to follow what you're saying.
Avatar 12/18 6:16pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

FYI streamers: Bodega Pop live will be starting about 30 minutes late today. Gary stuck in a tunnel...
Avatar 12/18 6:20pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

That Star Trek writer woman who died recently disavowed herself of having written the first version of this episode.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:20pm Phillippe Bastille:

Yeah, when I put my cursor over the playlist and used the scroll wheel the playlist window scrolled. When I put my cursor over the comments window and used the scroll wheel, the comments window did not scroll. After I clicked within the comments window and used the scroll wheel, the comments window scrolled. When I moved the cursor back over the playlist window and used the scroll mouse the playlist window scrolled without having to click inside it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:22pm Phillippe Bastille:

Seems to be a non-replicatable issue
Avatar 12/18 6:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@PB I get it. Hard one to address.
Avatar 12/18 6:23pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

How the hell can you listen to four pieces of music at the same time?
Avatar 12/18 6:25pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I'm working on crazy software that does some fun and some useful things and takes 19 years.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:25pm Phillippe Bastille:

I'm sure. I'm still trying to figure out how urls work
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:26pm Phillippe Bastille:

This is fun! Can we do it every week?
Avatar 12/18 6:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I picked a pretty big playlist to test this on.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Always a unique experience even more than one time.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:30pm fred:

"test insert" showed up in the middle, then to the left, then gone, now four times to the left
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

19 years ~ eclipse cycles - called 'Saros'.
Avatar 12/18 6:30pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Thanks Fred! All as intended.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:31pm fred:

Now the extra line is gone
Avatar 12/18 6:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Need a feature to greyscale the avatar images
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:35pm chresti:

Ah..grey is easier on the eyeballs
Avatar 12/18 6:36pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Charlie Kaufman has written a book
Avatar 12/18 6:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Totally need songs auto scroll
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:39pm Phillippe Bastille:

@kenzo agreed
Avatar 12/18 6:40pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

New system isn't even making a blip on CPU or disks or DB
Avatar 12/18 6:42pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

112 things on this playlist. Probably a wee bit above WFMU average.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:46pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Pay no attention to that Kenzo behind the curtain.
Quite a Composition indeed.
Avatar 12/18 6:47pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I should paste the source code with each song
Avatar 12/18 6:53pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Thanks everyone for the listening and presence and testing and talking and thinking and helping. Any ideas at all, please send them on. Watch how you can even keep typing comments after the show is over and they'll show up right away! You won't lose that last comment you were typing, either.

Look, I can throw you all to the bottom temporarily and we can see...
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:53pm WR:

Now stop that Ken. Let the guts be on the inside where the guts are supposed to be. Regarding the update. Ya done good. Not sure why others saying something about auto scroll for the playlist. I'm ok without that. The now playing at the top updated and if I scroll to the bottom the entry is there.
Avatar 12/18 6:54pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@WR Maybe so. But now the bottom is a more fun and updated place to be looking than the now playing at the top.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:55pm WR:

I like being in control so the auto scroll ever time now playing updates has been an irritant to me.
Avatar 12/18 6:56pm northguineahills:

Thanks, Ken!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:57pm Rand al'Thor:

Thank you for the show and the playlists, Kenzo!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 6:58pm chresti:

Thanks Kenzo!
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 12/18 7:13pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Bye, see you next time. o͡͡͡╮༼ . •́ _ʖ •̀ . ༽╭o͡͡͡
Avatar 2:32pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Hi, see you this time.
Avatar 3:01pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Here we are, two + three moments at once.
Avatar 3:10pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

We're 10 minutes or half plus 10 through, I don't know. It is holding and it is rising.
Avatar 3:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

We're in WFMU's year-end fundraiser, and I'd really like to thank some of the people who've recently pledged to this show right here:

Fred over in France (!), Geoff out in Scotland (!), and Tim our in South Carolina (!). Thank you!! Pledge banner way up top over there.
Avatar 3:26pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

I.e.: pledge.wfmu.org...
Avatar 4:08pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Nature rule, Daniel-san, not mine.
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 4:36pm WR:

I can barely keep up with where I am now so am never sure if anything is the same, the same as when?
Avatar 4:37pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Exactly!
Avatar 4:38pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Welcome, Reality.
Avatar 4:48pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Time's up.
Avatar 4:55pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

(Reading from the mailbag)
Avatar Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza supporter Year-End Fundraiser 2020 Swag For Life Member 4:58pm WR:

Laters all.
Avatar 4:59pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Fare thee wellnesses
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