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Options May 10, 2020: A Walk through the Shadow with Anthony Davis et al.

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Artist Track Album Label Year Comments Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble  Tatas-Matoes   Options Congliptious  Nessa  1968    0:00:00 (Pop‑up)

Music behind DJ:
Sun Ra 

The Perfect Man   Options

My Brother The Wind, Vol. I 

Saturn Research 



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Priscilla Ermel  Gestos de Equilibrio   Options Outro Tempo: Electronic and Contemporary Music from Brazil 1978-1992  Music from Memory  1989/2017    0:06:09 (Pop‑up)
Okkyung Lee  the yellow porcelain bird   Options Yeo-Neun  Shelter Press  2020    0:14:36 (Pop‑up)
Darius Jones Quartet featuring Emilie Lesbros  Quand Vient la Nuit   Options Le bébé de Brigitte (Lost in Translation)  AUM Fidelity  2015    0:18:29 (Pop‑up)
Golden Retriever & Chuck Johnson  Sage Thrasher   Options Rain Shadow  Thrill Jockey  2020    0:25:38 (Pop‑up)
Okkyung Lee  another old story (옛날이야기)   Options Yeo-Neun  Shelter Press  2020    0:37:45 (Pop‑up)
Kraftwerk  Ananas Symphonie   Options Ralf & Florian  Philips  1973    0:40:50 (Pop‑up)
Sam Prekop  Faces and People   Options Sam Prekop  Thrill Jockey  1999    0:55:03 (Pop‑up)

Music behind DJ:
Booker T. & The MGs 

Melting Pot   Options





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م = ism  Marguerite   Options Metaphor  Umlaut Records  2019  Pat Thomas / Joel Grip / Antonin Gerbal  1:11:12 (Pop‑up)
Bunny Lee Allstars  Joe Lewis   Options Full Up: Bunny "Striker" Lee's Early Reggae Productions 1968-72        1:41:09 (Pop‑up)

Music behind DJ:
Mouse on Mars 

Fantastic Analysis   Options





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Anthony Davis & Jay Hoggard  Under the Double Moon: Wayang No. IV   Options Under the Double Moon  MPS Records  1981    1:52:56 (Pop‑up)
Anthony Davis  A Walk through the Shadow   Options Epistēmē  Gramavision  1981    2:03:48 (Pop‑up)
Anthony Davis/James Newton Quartet  Hocket in the Pocket   Options Hidden Voices  India Navigation   1979    2:08:48 (Pop‑up)
Oliver Lake  Comous   Options Life Dance of Is  Arista Novus  1978    2:14:29 (Pop‑up)
New Dalta Ahkri  Of Blues and Dreams   Options Song Of Humanity = Kanto Pri Homaro  Kabell Records   1977    2:18:54 (Pop‑up)
Anthony Davis  Mvt II: Little Richard's New Wave   Options Hemispheres  Gramavision  1983    2:30:00 (Pop‑up)
Anthony Davis  Behind the Rock   Options Past . Present . Future: Live at the Western Front 1985-2015  Western Front New Music  1985/2016    2:39:33 (Pop‑up)
Anthony Davis  Wayang V: II. Undine   Options Notes from the Underground  BMOP/sound  2014    2:46:57 (Pop‑up)

Music behind DJ:
Dudu Pukwana & Spear 

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Flute Music 




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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:00am listener james from westwood:

Good Sunday morning, Jeff and all!
Avatar 9:02am holland oats:

yo d:o! peeps!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03am Jeff Golick:

Howdy, @listener james and @holland oats! Please stand by!
Avatar 9:05am Listener Gregory:

I am sitting by.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am fred:

Hello Jeff and listeners. Technical difficulties on WFMU mean some things are still normal in this world
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:07am Jeff Golick:

That is also fine, @Listener Gregory.
Ha! I suppose that's true, @fred!
Avatar 9:08am hyde:

gooooood morning
  9:08am alan r:

Bingo. You're on!
Avatar 9:08am Listener Gregory:

Some are born congliptious, some achieve congliptiousness, some have congliptiousness thrust upon them. I am in the last category.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am Jeff Golick:

Welcome and hellooo, @hyde, and @alan r!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am doctorjazz:

Hello all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:14am doctorjazz:

Germany is 6 hours ahead of NY/Eastern Standard Time.
Avatar 9:14am Sem:

Hello and good morning, Jeff, from the recently snowed upon shores of the mighty Bay of Fundy, and D:O folk in all climes, temperate or not.
  9:14am DJpeterDE:

Good morning! Sun is out in DE
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:16am fred:

@doctorjazz: How did your return to work go?
Avatar 9:17am TDK60:

Morning Jeff and Out folks, though we're mostly In.
  9:19am rw:

Good morning and happy Mother’s Day!
Avatar 9:19am Listener Gregory:

It appears to be above freezing outside. This is an accomplishment.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20am Jeff Golick:

Hey there, @doctorjazz, @Sem, @DJpeterDE, @TDK60, and @rw! You are wonderful to see in any time zone. Or temperate zone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am doctorjazz:

Weird, @Fred. Mix of very hectic and very quiet, anxiety and boredom. Have started using teleconference to maintain social distancing and still "see" patients, which is taking a bit of getting used to on both our parts.
  9:28am DJpeterDE:

Has anyone seen Anthony Davis’s Pulitzer Prize-winning opera?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:29am Jeff Golick:

I have not, @DJpeterDE! Have you? I was so glad to see him get that recognition. Pulled a bunch of Davis for the show; we'll see what we can get to.
  9:33am DJpeterDE:

I haven’t seen it and was hoping for a first-hand report. I’m also playing Davis on my show Tuesday, focusing on his compositions from 1972 up to the Malcolm X opera. (WVUD.org 10p-midnight EDT)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am Jeff Golick:

Excellent! Looking for to that, @DJpeterDE.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:34am Andrew Waterloo:

good morning
Avatar 9:35am TDK60:

This helps..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:35am Jeff Golick:

Hi, @Andrew Waterloo!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am doctorjazz:

I often sleep past the first set, glad I'm up today, really enjoying it!
  9:42am Dave In St Albans UK:

Hi Jeff. Decided on being IN today after yesterday's scorching weather and an 8 mile walk! Today is cooler and windy. Great show btw.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am Jeff Golick:

Hello, @Dave In St Albans UK! Welcome IN. And thanks!
  9:44am DJpeterDE:

Where did you hike, Dave?
Avatar 9:46am StringOFperils:

Good morning OUT crowd, happy...whatdayizzit?
  9:47am Dave In St Albans UK:

From home to the new Heartwood forest nearby and Noman's Land common and back! Too hot though. Lovely spot to relax and enjoy some views.
Avatar 9:48am TDK60:

It was wintery yesterday in NYC.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:49am Jeff Golick:

Darned if I know, @StringOFperils, but always a good one when you're around.
Avatar 9:50am TDK60:

..don't know what day it was but it was yesterday.
  9:51am Dave In St Albans UK:

Definitely losing track of which day it is. :-(
Avatar 9:52am hyde:

This is ideal music for making Japanese potato salad
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53am doctorjazz:

We had a 5 minute blizzard late afternoon yesterday in Central Joisey. Today looks nice, high supposed to be around 60. A bit achy from getting all my daughter's stuff home from her college share house.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53am fred:

These two tracks were not what I expected from Okkyung Lee, looks like an interesting record
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am Jeff Golick:

Yeah, @fred, it's taking me a little while to get with the new Okkyung Lee. Lovely stuff, but like you said, not what I expected.
  9:55am DJpeterDE:

Hyde is that with Japanese mayonnaise?
Avatar 9:56am hyde:

@DJpeterDE yep, it's got the Kewpie
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56am Jeff Golick:

Well done, @doc. We need to sign up for a six-hour window in which to retrieve my son's belongings from his college dorm room. I fully expect that the room is now inhabited by sentient mold.
  9:57am DJpeterDE:

@hyde kawaii!
Avatar 9:58am Listener Gregory:

@Dave in St Albans UK, if you had only been in St. Albans, Vermont, you would have had enough snow to make a small snowperson.
Avatar 9:58am StringOFperils:

Ha ha ha. Sentient mold.
  9:58am DJpeterDE:

@jeff Hazmat suit in order?
Avatar 9:59am StringOFperils:

St. Albans, Vermont. That's where my maternal great grandmother came from.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:59am WR:

Nusaws first hour because I was out grocery shopping
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00am Jeff Golick:

@WR, how'd that go? One of the more stressful activities these days, I find. Welcome.
Avatar 10:01am hyde:

Jeff's dorm story reminded me that when I was in college, I went home for a six week break, and forgot there were two burgers in the freezer of my unplugged dorm fridge. That sure smelled bad
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01am Jeff Golick:

I mean, I just found a piece of petrified banana peel in his room here at home, and he's only been here about ten days.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03am chresti:

Morning Jeff and people OUT theres!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:04am Jeff Golick:

Greetings, @chresti!
  10:05am Dave In St Albans UK:

I can dream that I am in St Albans Vermont! The change would do me good.
  10:08am Dave In St Albans UK:

Jeff, my two teenage boys secretly deposit all kinds of food and discard partly used drinks everywhere. Usually discover the pre-mold cast offs by smell!
Avatar 10:10am StringOFperils:

@Dave..I was just tyoing that you're sitting on more fabulous archaeology where you are, and...ha ha..I guess that proves it.
  10:10am DJpeterDE:

@jeff at least he’s eating fruit
  10:10am DJpeterDE:

@string LOL
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am Franco Twinkie:

Good marnin' Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:15am WR:

Eeeeeewee Kewpie mayo. One of biggest culture shock I've had in Japan is Kewpie mayo on broccoli. In potato salad, if used in moderation, well ok.
  10:16am Dave In St Albans UK:

@StringOFperils At least the Romans didn't leave pre-mold cast offs in the quantities that my boys do!
  10:16am DJpeterDE:

Interesting, Jeff’s comment re vocals made me realize “I’m not into jazz vocals (generally) but I am really all-in into specific vocalists” (Celine McLorin Salvant, Betty Carter above all)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18am WR:

I pre-ordered the Okkyung Lee and look forward sitting with it tomorrow, first day of 2 week staycation. The blurb points out this is first recording of her compositions that deeply looks back at her Korean upbringing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19am Jeff Golick:

Hiya, @Franco Twinkie!
  10:21am DJpeterDE:

@jeff who are the bass and drums here?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21am Jeff Golick:

Trio is Pat Thomas / Joel Grip (b) / Antonin Gerbal (ds)
Avatar 10:22am TDK60:

Morning Franco, Chresti.
  10:23am DJpeterDE:

As a bassist myself, I approve of the surname Grip
Avatar 10:23am StringOFperils:

Yep. Call me a philistine, but I'd rather be listening to this beautiful sound than listening to Ella doing A Tisket A Tasket A Bloody F***ing Yellow Basket, which is like slow torture to me. Ok, go ahead purist jazz zealots, put the boot in, don't be gentle, I can take it....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24am Jeff Golick:

With the addition of Seymour Wright, this group becomes Ahmed, also represented by Arabic letters for maximum non-google-ability (in the non-Arabic-speaking world, at least).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27am Doug Schulkind:

Aaaaaaaaaargghhhhh! Happy Mothra's Day!
Avatar 10:27am StringOFperils:

And on a positive note, btw, this show is awesome, and I am deeply thankful for it. There I said that too. :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29am Jeff Golick:

YAY, @StringOFperils! That warms my heart.

And then there's...Mothra? Happy Mothra's Day to you, too, Dougzilla.
Avatar 10:29am Listener Gregory:

@StringOP, It is said that Ella hated that song. My sense is that the classic jazz vocalists (like her) did what could be done in that vein. If one does not engage in "extended technique" of some kind, just singing jazz songs is not very interesting. It's nice if you're out having cocktails or something.
Avatar 10:29am StringOFperils:

"Let's not get all sticky about it Mother."
___William March__The Bad Seed
  10:29am DJpeterDE:

I finally figured to search for Umlaut Records on bandcamp instead of the band name, but still don’t see the album!
Avatar 10:30am Listener Gregory:

@Doug, that's only the back pain talking.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33am Jeff Golick:

Here it is on the label's site, @DJpeterDE: www.umlautrecords.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33am Jeff Golick:

Read the The Bad Seed a while back. Not a great book to give to an expecting mom.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am WR:

This is first time since March I haven't treated going to the store as a mission where I have my list and get in and out asap (hence my missing the first hour of DO today.) The selection was back to let's say 70 % of what was usual. And our normal used to be to buy basic essentials and anything else only if on sale. While I was still a bit price sensitive today I got what I wanted, so total was 50% more than usual. I did indulge in beef since I will have time to cook during the staycation and selection was good. But $3 for a sleeve of garlic, OMG.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35am Jeff Golick:

Good work, @WR. I went to the Park Slope Food Coop on Friday, and treated it like I was going on a Navy SEAL expedition. Waited 80 minutes to get in, then spent more $$ on groceries that I ever have before by a factor of two. At least no one can say, "We have nothing to eat!" for another couple of days.
Avatar 10:36am duke:

Is م = ism Elon Musk's kid's name?
Avatar 10:37am TDK60:

..went to an all-night supermarket last night, after midnight. It /was/ a mission, by bicycle. My cashier had on ski goggles, hat, rain suit, gloves, he looked sharp.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37am Doug Schulkind:

@Listener Gregory
I've been doubled over so long I'm...I'm...octupled.
Avatar 10:39am StringOFperils:

Been down so long it looks like octopi to me. Sounds like an unissued Captain Beefheart record.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39am WR:

I still have a couple of Pat Thomas recordings book marked, probably from previous DO episodes, for my next budgeted digital recording purchase.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:41am Jeff Golick:

Hey there, @duke. That kid might one day wish it was.
  10:42am DJpeterDE:

Heading out for groceries myself, locally owned store out in the burbs doesn’t charge for curbside delivery, really appreciate them!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:43am WR:

I've not yet pulled out my phone camera to get scene like that TDK60. want to do so soon, but unfortunately I think I have plenty of time for that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:43am doctorjazz:

I for the Past Thomas/Cafe Oto Ellington recording (yes, heard it here), which is terrific, WR!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46am Jeff Golick:

Good luck and godspeed, @DJpeterDE!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46am WR:

Yes, doctorjazz the Thomas Ellington is one of them. I'm happy to pay OTO for it to support them, but went a bit too far on the bandcamp no charge fee to musicians day, so waiting a few weeks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am fred:

@doctorjazz: Did the end of furlough brought the end of you music purchase fasting?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am doctorjazz:

I like many jazz vocalists (Ella, Sassy, Dinah Washington, Billie, Blossom Deary, Jimmy Rushing-the classics, I suppose), seem to be the outlier)
Avatar 10:48am Listener Gregory:

@doctor, I like them too! But contemporary singers generally strike me as "Billie Holliday did a version of that, and you're going to try to beat it?" Now I prefer Meredith Monk or someone who isn't competing in the same ballpark.
Avatar 10:50am Listener Gregory:

@Jeff, you remarked on the length of the "= ism" piece. It would be easy to put together a show of very long pieces. But could you make up a whole show of the sort of music you play with only pieces <= 4 minutes, say? Maybe you've done this, and I've forgotten.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51am chresti:

Morning TDK60.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52am doctorjazz:

@Fred- I'm still watching it some...intermittent fasting is the current way to refer to it. Trying to clear the backlog of stuff I haven't had time to listen to. And, not being home 24/7 gives me less listening time again. But I have sprung for things here and there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54am Andrew Waterloo:

I once made a mix CD of short grind core tracks, it had 104 tracks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55am doctorjazz:

@LG, I have to say, haven't paid much attention to contemporary jazz singers either. (Feel a bit like contemporary blues singers, trying to recapture what was a popular music out of its natural environment)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55am fred:

@Listener Gregory: To be fair, Meredith Monk built a ballpark of her own. I like what Audrey Chen has been doing in the past few years (though I miss her take on the cello)
Avatar 10:55am Wolfie:

Hello, dear outrés. This is a lovely Destination.
  10:56am DJpeterDE:

@LG I like all of them too, like Ella and Vaughan big dont obsess about them (meaning: collect virtually everything of theirs) as I have with Dinah & Rushing
Avatar 10:56am Listener Gregory:

@Fred, will check out Audrey Chen, thanks.
Avatar 10:57am Wolfie:

That is fantastic news for Anthony Davis!! Love his stuff with Abdul Wadud and James Newton!!
Avatar 10:59am StringOFperils:

Part of the issue with jazz vocalizing is the choice to interpret a 'standard', as a starting point, as opposed to breaking out of that completely. After a few decades of that strategy, it gets tired. I too actually like many jazz vocalists, from Al Hibbler to Johnny Hartman to Norma Winstone to Annette Peacock...etc. Jazz vocalizing is easy to complain about though, because so much of has eagerly embraced cheesiness...to the point where it almost falls in with exotica.
  10:59am DJpeterDE:

Many of Anthony Davis 70s records also OOP (India navigation, MPS, etc)
Avatar 11:02am Listener Gregory:

I thought Cassandra Wilson did a good job of breaking the jazz vocalist mold, but after half a dozen albums, I wasn't hearing anything new. Most of her work is worth hearing, though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02am Jeff Golick:

Hey and welcome, @Stork (aka Wolfie)!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04am Jeff Golick:

I wore out that Blue Skies record of hers, @LG. Also to your earlier question, I've never done a sub-4-minute show, but during Singles Going Steady week in October, I do try to keep things under 7/8 minutes or so. That's as low as I can go. I am not a professional, after all.
Avatar 11:05am Listener Gregory:

@Jeff, well, consider it a challenge. And if you were a professional, you wouldn't be playing this music, and we wouldn't be listening to you, so thank God for that!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:05am doctorjazz:

Know (and love) the stuff with James Newton, not that well versed in the rest.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09am coelacanth∅:

good morning Jeff, DOers
Avatar 11:10am Wolfie:

The stereo image on this recording is blowing my pea-brain!! Cans on for this one! (Under the Double Moon). Jay Hoggard!! Criminally underrated!
Avatar 11:10am Wolfie:

Hiya, coel!!
Avatar 11:11am Listener Gregory:

My vague memory is that Jay Hoggard started out doing things like this and then transitioned to something more like smooth jazz. Is that wrong?
Avatar 11:14am Listener Gregory:

@Doug, by the way, I forgot to express my sympathies for your back situation. The Captain Beefheart octopus image distracted me. Hope you can resolve it soon.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:17am doctorjazz:

This is where I first heard Davis, love "Hocket..."
Such an interesting construction
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18am fred:

@Listener Gregory: I must confess I have no idea what Audrey Chen released. I only saw her live (including a great performance with Phil Minton). And that was eons ago, back when live shows existed
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18am Jeff Golick:

Good to see ya @coelacanth∅!
Avatar 11:19am StringOFperils:

Now I feel guilty for two things. Dissing jazz vocals, and throwing an octopus on the rails.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19am WR:

While we can wish Anthony Davis did more work as band leader pianist it is great that he continues to write the operas.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19am Jeff Golick:

Let's be honest, just about everything connected to jazz can be dissed rather easily.
Avatar 11:20am Listener Gregory:

And *has been* dissed at some point.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21am Uncle Michael:

hey hey
Avatar 11:22am StringOFperils:

I suppose, like most things, if it was something done by people, I can probably find some way to complain about it. That's art school for ya.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:23am Jeff Golick:

Hey hey hey, it's @Uncle Michael!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:23am doctorjazz:

No need to feel bad, @String, we like what we like. (Anyone here or other FMU shows CANNOT be faulted for narrow listening preferences).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24am Uncle Michael:

And I'm gonna sing a song for you
And Jeff's gonna show you a thing or two
You'll have some fun now with me and all the gang
Learning from each other while we do our thing
Na, na, na, gonna have a good time
Avatar 11:24am Listener Gregory:

@doctorjazz, but if someone doesn't like what I like, then I *do* fault their narrow listening preferences!
Avatar 11:25am Listener Gregory:

Is that narrow of me???
Avatar 11:25am StringOFperils:

Ha ha ha UM. That's some kinda hinky-dinky hokum ho haw that is.
Avatar 11:26am Wolfie:

We just got Booshed, folks!!
Avatar 11:28am Listener Gregory:

You're going deep, Jeff. (New Dalta Ahkri)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28am Doug Schulkind:

That was the Great British Bake Off guy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:28am fred:

@StringOfperils: I thought law school was were you were taught how to complain. But the mere mention of art school brings another hit: the Paris art school has a great open doors event in late June, with plenty of stuff to see, live bands and cheap beer (I take a day off from work to go there, and it's never enough). It probably won't happen this year
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:30am Jeff Golick:

The Kabell comp that Tzadik/Zorn put out is one of the great things that label did.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:30am Uncle Michael:

No one misses art school critiques.
Avatar 11:31am Listener Gregory:

@Fred, could they just provide the cheap beer? In a distanced way?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am Uncle Michael:

I just made asparagus vichyssoise. It's chilling. It gets served garnished with mint cream and asparagus tips.
Avatar 11:33am StringOFperils:

Art school critiques, for some of us at least, need to be endured long enough to learn that art school critiques define the catch-all term 'rabbit hole'. Then, after a little therapy, you get to move on.
Avatar 11:34am StringOFperils:

UM !
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:34am Jeff Golick:

YUM, @UM. I bought donuts at the farmer's market earlier.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:34am Doug Schulkind:

The thought of you making an asparagus vichyssoise is indeed chilling Uncle Michael.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:35am Uncle Michael:

Art school critiques are where bullshit gets elevated to...well, an art form. I always wanted to deliver an artists statement, standing next to a bare plinth. I'd bullshit about the meaning of nothingness for ten minutes the walk out the first time anyone in the class opened their mouth to speak.
Avatar 11:36am StringOFperils:

Get that man a giant NEA grant!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38am Uncle Michael:

The Art of Performative Bullshit
Avatar 11:38am Listener Gregory:

I got strawberries at the freezing farmers' market yesterday. I had very low expectations. Tried them today, and they are unbelievably good! So there still is some hope for the world.
Will consider making strawberry vichyssoise of the remainder.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39am Jeff Golick:

The complicated thing is, being able to think critically about stuff, and look beyond the surface of things, is an incredibly important skill. Not for the purposes of bullshitting your peers, but for, y'know, reading the news and such.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39am Uncle Michael:

"But, what are you trying to sayyyyyy?"

"What does it evoke for youuuuuu?"

It's like some sort of masterbatory, intellectual ping pong.
Avatar 11:40am StringOFperils:

Performative meta-Language and Ubiquitous Plurality in the Late-Capitalist Field and other Mental snack Crackers
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41am fred:

It's silly, but still way above the level of discourse at any business school
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41am Uncle Michael:

"Perhaps this is a pipe."
Avatar 11:42am StringOFperils:

Perhaps I'm hitting you over the head with a pipe, while demanding that you increase my annual grant funding.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43am Uncle Michael:

Seriously, conceptualism is best served by NOT articulating the concept. When the whole point is "what the ever-loning fuck?", for god's sake...don't answer the question!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43am Jeff Golick:

Tom Wolfe's The Painted Word does a good job of dressing the art world down, if you're looking for a slim hit job.
Avatar 11:43am Listener Gregory:

Research re: the first cut in this set: Jay Hoggard hasn't put out an album since 2009, and only on his own label since 2003.
Avatar 11:43am Listener Gregory:

@UM. Yes.
Avatar 11:44am Listener Gregory:

@Jeff, contemporary art is even easier to dis than jazz. But the hit jobs ignore the few fantastic works that do come out and change the way we think or see the world.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:44am Uncle Michael:

I mean, "here, let me un-blow your mind". NO!
Avatar 11:45am StringOFperils:

The more recent 'Playing To The Gallery' by British artist Grayson Perry is also an amusing and clear-seeing talk about the art world and all that...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:45am Jeff Golick:

@LG thanks for that. I similarly have a sense that Hoggard strayed from the One True Path, but am not really sure where he went.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:47am Jeff Golick:

@LG, and agreed. I'm not a fan of Wolfe's take -- he's pretty regressive -- and am more sympathetic to conceptual stuff than he is -- but it works as a critique of it all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:47am Uncle Michael:

Warhol liked to watch people jerk off. I'm sure when people were jerking off over his work, he adored it. But he just watched. He didn't help.
Avatar 11:47am StringOFperils:

I feel your nausea UM. It's unfortunate that it's like that. It undermines itself. ON the other hand, I've grown to appreciate the overt foppishness of that world. So much easier to be a real person.
Avatar 11:49am StringOFperils:

Andy recognized the big wank very early on.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50am doctorjazz:

Great tribute, Jeff! Rest of the show as well, thanks. Nice week all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50am Uncle Michael:

It's a bargain an artist decides to make ot not. Anyone can make anything they want, and refuse to explain it. But the likelihood is that if you refuse to play the game, you choose to excuse yourself from the marketplace. You have to be fortunate enough to have the priesthood explain you to themselves, otherwise. That rarely happens.
  11:50am DJpeterDE:

Back from grocery run, relieved that Jeff’s A Davis playlist only slightly overlaps with my Tuesday show. 2/6 is good.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51am Jeff Golick:

I think the problem is often in the assessment. There are a lot of folks describing difficult art who have no business doing so, and can elevate a lot of crap in the process.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:51am fred:

I think The Nihilist Spasm Band's Bill Exley did the definitive art/corporate speech in "I have nothing to say". I suggested that as a translation for a coworker who is tasked with translating the musings of the director of my workplace to English
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am Jeff Golick:

Glad to hear it, @DJpeterDE -- really didn't want to steal your thunder.
Avatar 11:52am Listener Gregory:

I think there are a number of well thought-of artists who provide no clues to what they are thinking, @UM. Or, like Yoko Ono, they say things like, "This work is trying to nail the sky to the gallery ceiling." Then you are back to thinking your own thoughts, which is the whole point of conceptual art.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am Uncle Michael:

If I could tell you what's in my heart with words, I'd practice poetry, for fuck's sake.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53am Uncle Michael:

I agree, LG.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54am chresti:

I did not enjoy art school critiques. It's a painting, okay? No, it's not about vaginas with teeth.
  11:55am spodiodi:

"you think you are god" was my fave
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55am coelacanth∅:

(sometimes a snake is a snake)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55am Jeff Golick:

My favorite recent conceptual art story was discovering that Matthew Barney was a J. Crew model for a time.
Avatar 11:56am Listener Gregory:

@chresti, I think it is!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am Uncle Michael:

I want to see a comedy sketch were someone portrays Anthony Quinn's Gauguin enduring an art school critique.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am fred:

We're about to end the lockdown over here. A politician just said he trusted the intelligence and understanding of cops and the population. We're doomed
  11:56am spodiodi:

greetings, Jeff & all
Avatar 11:57am Sem:

Thank you, Jeff. Have a good week, all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am Uncle Michael:

fred, you are, indeed
  11:57am spodiodi:

to heck with this rush to open everything
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am Uncle Michael:

thank you, Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am Jeff Golick:

Hi, @spodiodi!
Avatar 11:58am hyde:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am chresti:

Thanks Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am Jeff Golick:

You, too, @Sem! Thanks, @UM! You're a poet though you don't know it.

Take care, @hyde!
Avatar 11:58am Listener Gregory:

@spodiodi, strong words, but these are difficult times. TV commercials tell me so.
  11:59am spodiodi:

bye Sem
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59am fred:

Over already? Thanks Jeff!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59am Jeff Golick:

My pleasure, @chresti!
  11:59am spodiodi:

bicky bicky bye bye?
  11:59am Doug Schulkind:

Name a creative arts sibling duo loftier than Thulani and Anthony Davis.
Avatar 11:59am StringOFperils:

The 'art world' is a business like any other. This is capitalism, and we're swimming in that medium. So, it's rife with new-product language, seasonal catch-phrases, formal tropes (gawd, I got so sick of snarling dogs and rabbit heads in the 80s), and as with all other employment hierarchies, there's bullshit: sycophantic bullshit, self-marketing bullshit, self-ideation bullshit, essentialness to a general public bullshit, and probably the biggest bullshit of all is that that public has no ideas about anything and it needs the world explained to it, in the most obfuscatory fairy tales it's willing to pay for.
Avatar 11:59am Wolfie:

Great great set Jeff!! C'mon over The Stork, folks! It's My Mother's Day!! OK, yours too.
Avatar 11:59am StringOFperils:

Wow. Time! Thanks for the show....!!
Avatar 11:59am Listener Gregory:

Jeff, in these uncertain times, it is great to know that when I turn on your show, I am completely uncertain what you will play. The Davis set reminds me of how good he is. Thanks!
Damn that flute!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Jeff! take care
  12:00pm spodiodi:

thanks, Jeff
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:01pm WR:

Thank you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:02pm Jeff Golick:

Bye, everyone, @WR, @spodiodi, @coel, @LG, @StringOFperils, @Wolfie, @Doug (I didn't know that!), @fred, and one and all!
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