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Favoriting March 26, 2020: in a minor groove

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format New Approx. start time
aritomo  the depths of the trasparent something   Favoriting fearful sunshine filtering through foliage          0:00:00 (Pop-up)
chico mello  achado   Favoriting do la do da voz          0:02:06 (Pop-up)
adventures in stereo  cry your love away   Favoriting adventures in stereo          0:10:39 (Pop-up)
loving  only she knows   Favoriting       Single  *   0:12:14 (Pop-up)
agnes jaoui  sur le pont de l'alm mia   Favoriting dans mon pays          0:15:12 (Pop-up)
gray  drum mode ( paul mogg version)   Favoriting anti ny          0:19:31 (Pop-up)
guided by voices  I Am A Scientist   Favoriting i am a scientisst ep          0:25:29 (Pop-up)
kashmir boots  Tristesses de la Lune   Favoriting           0:27:41 (Pop-up)
Vladimir Cosma &the London Symphony orchestra  la wally ( instrumental)   Favoriting ost diva          0:28:33 (Pop-up)
the casa loma orchestra with lee wiley  A Hundred Years From Today   Favoriting art deco v/a          0:31:30 (Pop-up)
 
marianne  gu   Favoriting even a tree can shed tears          0:37:21 (Pop-up)
gyratory system  thermidor   Favoriting barons court turret          0:43:04 (Pop-up)
Kevin Hewick & New Order  haystack   Favoriting from brussels with love v/a          0:48:29 (Pop-up)
the green door kids  moody (esg cover)   Favoriting           0:52:06 (Pop-up)
guerre froide  ersatz   Favoriting des jeunes gens modernes post punk, cold wave et cuture novo en france 1978-1983 v/a          0:54:36 (Pop-up)
kaysound fashion  don't trust the brains trust   Favoriting coffee table music v/a          0:57:47 (Pop-up)
 
kevin ayers  songs for insane times   Favoriting joy of a toy          1:03:31 (Pop-up)
kassav  soleil   Favoriting           1:07:44 (Pop-up)
kassin  digerido   Favoriting relax          1:11:49 (Pop-up)
ken boothe  Ain't No Sunshine   Favoriting Darker than Blue: Soul from Jamdown 1973-1980          1:15:36 (Pop-up)
kenny burell  love is the answer   Favoriting god bless the child          1:18:18 (Pop-up)
baroque jazz trio  cesar go back home   Favoriting Baroque Jazz Trio          1:22:13 (Pop-up)
au pairs  its obvious   Favoriting Playing With A Different Sex          1:30:10 (Pop-up)
janko nilovic  roses and revolvers   Favoriting Paris In the Spring v/a          1:35:45 (Pop-up)
kathy mc cord  candle waxing   Favoriting fairytale lady v/a          1:40:20 (Pop-up)
kevin morby  my name ( recorded live at wfmu)   Favoriting           1:43:24 (Pop-up)
ALA.NI  away go   Favoriting acca        *   1:45:59 (Pop-up)
gal costa  lost in paradise   Favoriting gal costa          1:47:50 (Pop-up)
Martial Solal  new york herald tribune   Favoriting ost breathless          1:51:20 (Pop-up)
blueboy  cloud babies   Favoriting If Wishes Were Horses          1:52:03 (Pop-up)
deerhoof  vivid cheek love song   Favoriting the runners four          1:57:57 (Pop-up)
elo  Sweet Talkin' Woman   Favoriting           1:58:10 (Pop-up)
 
priscilla ermel  cristal de fogo   Favoriting origins da luz  music from memory  1986-94    *   2:05:52 (Pop-up)
luiz bueno  expirando a dor   Favoriting uno com o todo          2:13:40 (Pop-up)
helen money  midnight   Favoriting atomic  thrill jockey      *   2:20:25 (Pop-up)
cocteau twins  the itchy glowbo blow   Favoriting blue bell knoll          2:25:22 (Pop-up)
piry reis  o sol na janela   Favoriting Outro Tempo (Electronic And Contemporary Music From Brazil 1978-1992)  music from memory      *   2:28:16 (Pop-up)
letta mbulu  welele   Favoriting free soul          2:33:11 (Pop-up)
 
barbara  si la photo est bonne   Favoriting           2:38:27 (Pop-up)
alberta hunter  soon   Favoriting           2:41:20 (Pop-up)
mole suit choir  table saw   Favoriting doomsday lamp          2:44:23 (Pop-up)
the byrds  You Ain't Goin Nowhere   Favoriting sweet heart of the rodeo          2:46:52 (Pop-up)
big star  try again (movie mix)   Favoriting nothing can hurt me osst          2:49:22 (Pop-up)
liz durette  angel bells   Favoriting delight        *   2:52:57 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

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David (in London):

Hello Trouble, and fellow Troubled Ones.
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Dances with Moomins:

Good Morning to the troubled. There is hope, there is Trouble!
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sphere:

good morning. thanks for being here Trouble. :)
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mariano:

Hey Trouble and everyone.
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TDK60:

Good morning DJ T! Are you in the studio? They made you a Skeleton? Wow!
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duke:

Here comes Trouble
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p20:

Hi Trouble! Thanks for all the great music. Are we going to hear from Dorothy Ashby today?
  9:02am
John from Florham park:

Morning trouble and fellow troublemakers
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Irene Trudel:

Goor morning Trouble and all listeners. Glad you're here for us!
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Snoochienucci:

morning all
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Julien à Montréal:

Bonjour Trouble, bonjour/hi fellow amis troublés (or "inquiets" or "préoccupés".
  9:03am
John from Florham park:

@DIL anything for the president to do today:)
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melinda:

Morning everyone!
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Handy Haversack:

Hi, Trouble and all the Troubled.
  9:03am
John from Florham park:

@Melinda morning
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ranjit:

Good morning!
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p20:

this is great! very pretty and very strange at the same time
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waters7:

hey! good morning, trouble!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am
mariano:

Peut-être "dérangés", Julien? ;)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:06am
Trouble:

good morning thursday's homebound people! I am not one of the skeleton staff, I am one of the dj'ing from home peeps. we are all in this together even though we are working far flung
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David (in London):

@John President - You have a conference call with the head of the World Health Organisaiton later. They wish to record a short interview, so your Churchillian authority can be used to encourage people around the world.
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Julien à Montréal:

@mariano: "dérangés" sounds about right. Thx!
  9:07am
John from Florham park:

@DIL thank you oh wonderful chief of staff
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TDK60:

Oh, bonjour Trouble from home. Glad you're able to DJ from there.
  9:09am
John from Florham park:

@Trouble you are on the air that is all that matters
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:09am
Trouble:

in case you have some time on your hands: www.rollingstone.com...
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, Trouble and shut-in listeners. The station should have a noble Latin motto, like E Pluribus Woofum or some such mission statement.
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Crudbringer:

aayyy trouble glad you're broad casting live & die-wrecked, morning ever buddy.
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mariano:

Our ears can't tell where you're sending the music from, Trouble.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am
David (in London):

Trouble, how the Hell am I going to get ANY work done after looking at a link like that!
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sphere:

The whole remote setup seems to be working well.
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Trouble:

I could never have done this without the fantastic help of my musician husband. thanks andy!!
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VT Knit Girl:

so happy to be working from home so I can enjoy your show. Thanks for being here.
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p20:

@Trouble: I picked up Keith Richards book. I didn't read the whole thing, but the parts I read were surprisingly good. "Life" is a pretty good title too (I joked that he could have stolen a title from the inimitable Georges Perec ... "Life: A User's Manual" ... with a different sense of "user" of course)
  9:13am
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Trouble thank you for turning it from confinement to cozy
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Dances with Moomins:

Bonjour Andy!
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steveo:

neat, thanks to Trouble & Andy, & good morning everyone
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p20:

.... and if anyone needs a long, involved book to distract them during this time, you could do worse than that Perec - one of my all time favorite books, maybe #1.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15am
David (in London):

P20 - Your Perec OuLiPo joke there is giving mariano's earlier hair / cat one some serious challenge. Hats off to you!
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Aaron Working In Newark:

Good morning trouble
  9:17am
John from Florham park:

Thanks Andy for getting ione if my favorite DJs on the air
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Julien à Montréal:

I had no idea Agnès jaoui was also a singer. This show is always full of surprises.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:18am
mariano:

Oh I see, David: throw me under the bus for some Johnny-Come-Lately ;) Seriously though, happy to concede to any Perec reference.
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Handy Haversack:

Yeah, @p20: that's a good one!
  9:19am
allanToronto:

@p20. Hats off to you for reading Georges Perec's: Life A User's Manual.
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Kevlicki:

Hi Trouble, Thank you for providing this essential service to us listeners!
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p20:

@HH, @allanToronto: what's your favorite novel (or one of your favorites?)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am
David (in London):

mariano - I said 'serious challenge'. I think you are still reigning champion. And don't forget, as Confucius once said, 'Only by being tested by good opponents will your true comedy strength be properly understood'.
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mariano:

Fair enough, David :)
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p20:

@mariano: I come in peace! And not really such a johnny-come-lately, I've been listening to this station for 35 years and commenting on and off for a long time too. I change nicknames a lot :)
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Shagalov:

Still Good Morning Trouble <3
  9:25am
allanToronto:

@p20. Weirdly, because it's so commonplace, Melville's Moby Dick remains one of my fave books. The whole world is in it. Plus, in its way, it goes well beyond what Greil Marcus termed "the old weird America". There are many others of course.
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David (in London):

p20 - No, he didn't mean that. Earlier on I proclaimed a gag mariano had made as Gag the Day', and he was digging at me for seeming to recant on that. It's was a gag about a gag, nothing more.
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Trouble:

lots of innovative switches in the art and music world: joe's pub is streaming archived shows: publictheater.org...
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thedunkel:

GBV "I shoot myself with Rock n Roll" GBV
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p20:

@p20: sure, I get it
  9:27am
johnk77:

@trouble enjoying the selections of music
thanks for posting memoir list
i would add all the rage
by ian mclagan
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p20:

I have to stand up and jump around when GBV comes on....
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p20:

@thedunkel: I can never tell if it's "shoot myself " or "shit myself". It really sounds like the latter...
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mariano:

@p20 - No offense intended, sorry for dragooning you into my quip!
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TDK60:

Good news from Kosovo --its leader was ousted for refusing to take the pandemic seriously. I wish that could happen in my country...
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p20:

@mariano: No offense taken!
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Erella:

Hello there Trouble.
With the world so topsy turvy, I am so glad you're there (and that I am here to enjoy it)
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thedunkel:

@p20 I cant tell when I shouting the lyrics :)
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Threemoons:

Goood morning from the home office here in Astoria
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p20:

@TDK60: YES!
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David (in London):

Hey Threemoons.
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Phil in Charlotte:

Greetings everyone!
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ken krimstein:

la wally
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Snoochienucci:

this is an amazing set
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p20:

@allanInToronto: Me too! I love Moby Dick and I tell everyone to read it, despite what they might think. What a fantastic book! Definitely one of my top 5
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Trouble:

good morning erella! glad to hear from you, and glad to hear from everyone here today!
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ken krimstein:

amelie
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Handy Haversack:

@p20, wow, it varies by the day! Infinite Jest? Ulysses? Perdido Street Station? Middlemarch? Moby-Dick? At the Mountains of Madness? All of Jack Vance? Brothers Karamazov?

I'm better when I can break it down into tranches. Favorite nineteenth-century English mystery! Favorite queer space opera! Favorite China Mieville of specific years! Favorite Jack Vance Planet of Adventure installment!
  9:29am
John from Florham park:

Hey guys try to be good to each other please, I know we are all on edge
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ken krimstein:

on cello
  9:30am
allanToronto:

Trouble, I never knew this existed as an instrumental' I only know the uber beautiful vocal aria.
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ken krimstein:

c'est triste et belle a la meme chose, vivant (with apologies to madame szabo and the entire freshman french class...)
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p20:

@HH: Thanks!! Now I have to read Perdido Street Station.... and At the Mountains of Madness... and I guess all of Jack Vance :)
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woj:

present and listening! thanks to you and andy for making it happen, trouble!
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Handy Haversack:

(My inability to easily access diacritics and non-ASCII characters on this stupid laptop is a real frustration.)
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p20:

@HH: I usually do a Google search for the foreign word I need, and copy/paste
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Handy Haversack:

(@p20: The Kraken often vies with PSS for my favorite China Mieville, which means vying with it for favorite novel du moment aussi.)
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Trouble:

@allantoronto: it's on the soundtrack to Diva, one of the best soundtracks evah
  9:33am
johnk77:

for more on
old weird usa
melville's the confidence man
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David (in London):

Handy, I'm still very fond of The City and the City.
  9:34am
P-90:

Good morning, DJ Trouble. Primo choices.
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ParUbi:

Having a most excellent birthday here in Pittsburgh. I'm getting a budgerigar!
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Handy Haversack:

Me, too, David! I am already feeling bad about all the books I didn't mention. I am pretty sure the James Branch Cabell section of the shelf is mad at me.
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allanToronto:

J.G. Ballard's HIGHRISE might be a timely read.As with all his stuff, society unravels...it opens with a great scene of this guy roasting a dog out on the balcony of his swanky modern apartment in the sky. No one goes outside anymore....O_O
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Handy Haversack:

ParUbi!!!!! Happy birthday, friend!
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listener james from westwood:

::waves toward coat closet::
  9:36am
John from Florham park:

The birds are going nuts today
@Parubi morning
  9:36am
TheoC in Sharon CT:

Love your play list Trouble!
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David (in London):

Recently, I loved Jeff Vandermeer's Southern Reach trilogy.
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James in ATL:

Thank you so much for this live show! WFMU is my lifeline at this point. So terrific to hear your voice.
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mariano:

Happy birthday ParUbi! It's Colleen's birthday too, we have the makings for one hell of a party. I vote for piñatas.
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jmr3:

@David (in London) - I really liked the City and the City. Can you remind me the author's name? Can you recommend anything else by him?
  9:39am
John from Florham park:

Have a great one parubi
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p20:

@HH: totally impossible to pick just one (or 10), I know! As for me, let me just name-drop Walser, Sebald, Sorokin, and Jesse Ball.
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allanToronto:

DIVA sdtrk....wow...guess I have heard that version of La Wally, because I've seen that film at least twice...like a hundred years ago
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Crudbringer:

Regarding Cabell, I left my old copy of _Jurgen_ in the little-library nearby... that ol' boy and his staff...
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TDK60:

I need to read more. Reading Cider With Rosie by Laurie Lee now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am
Trouble:

please spread this link to any artists or arts organizations affected by shutdowns: artscovid.org
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ParUbi:

Thanks guys, and hello! :D Love Sebald and Walser, p20, so I guess I have to check out those others. What about Thomas Bernhard? I am also partial to Kafka and Lispector. What was the question?
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David (in London):

@jmr3 - The author is China Miéville. 'Perdido Street Station' always emerges as a firm favourite in his catalogue.
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p20:

@HH: Pynchon used to be on the list but he has slipped a bit. And when I was younger I devoured everything by P.K. Dick and Stanislaw Lem. But I don't really read much sci-fi any more.
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Handy Haversack:

@DIL: I was much more taken with the first book than the other two.

Someone recommended New York 2140, which is a great and long read and book that shows political *work* of and by people (though KSG's characterization is maybe an acquired taste!).

Also recent: Charlie Jane Anders's _The City in the Middle of the Night_ similarly shows the work of new and difficult politics.

And _Amatka_, by Karin Tidbeck tries to glimpse through the singularity to see what might be on the other side of Revolution.
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p20:

"Leaving the Atocha Station" by Ben Lerner was great.
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waters7:

I like the art today. will look up prunella Clough
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steveo:

any yogis out there just hear lokah samitah sukino? probably just me (ex-yogi)
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p20:

@HH: These are fantastic suggestions, thanks!! How do you find time to read all these books when you are listening to WFMU and commenting here all day long?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am
ParUbi:

My wife got me an excellent "literature in translation" series from our local foundation, "City of Asylum"-- the authors are largely refugees. I'm getting a book a month for half a year.
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Stanley:

Hi Trouble. Thanks for the links to the list of music memoirs. Funny, I do have a bit of time at the moment.
To the list I would add the memoirs of Tracey Thorn.
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David (in London):

Oh lord, I would jump off a cliff if it would bring Sebald back. I have deliberately never read The Emigrants so that there will always be some Sebald in the world left for me to read. Hopefully I can time it right and read it just before I cark it.
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TDK60:

Handy, I read Kim Stanley Robinson's New York 2140. It's ok. I like some of his others better.
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Irene Trudel:

Sounding great this morning, Trouble! So glad you were able to work out the technical issues to broadcast from home.
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David (in London):

Flann O'Brien's The Third Policeman too. That book still hurts / delights my head like Sun Ra's 'Astro Black'.
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Crudbringer:

Man, SAM would like this one.
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Trouble:

ri audubon society is streaming a live cam: peregrine falcon laying eggs. their eggs are sort of dark rust in color: so cool. goggle it
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Threemoons:

Love the book suggestions!
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Trouble:

thanks Irene!!!
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p20:

@D(iL): I read "The Rings of Saturn" in English, then I got a copy in German, which I am *slowly* making my way through. My German is not that great - I can make my way through Kafka, but Sebald is harder. Like you, I'm comforted by the fact that I'll probably never finish it.
  9:46am
allanToronto:

p20.Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain, if you really have the time and the ambition, and if you like the German writers...and if you're grappling with the meaning of life.
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sphere:

If you want deep SF, try the Book of the Sun tetralogy by Gene Wolfe. Guaranteed to knock your socks off, especially if you like Vance.
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Crudbringer:

that serious _tribal robot_ shit
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Itzall Gön'gett-Bettresuhnn:

Good morning Trouble, good morning pajama-people!
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ParUbi:

I only revisted Sebald recently because of that great series of episodes on FMU's "the Blind Tourist." What a trip that was! Now I'm hooked again.
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p20:

@allanToronto: Yes, I must read that one. I used to read a lot more books before the Internet took over my life. I've got to find my way back to that head-space.
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Handy Haversack:

@p20: well, I used to have my 40-min. commute by foot and subway in which to read ...

Oh! And

_Famous Men Who Never Lived _ by K. Chess and _This Is How You Lose the Time War_ by Amal el-Mohtar and Max Gladstone.

Need to get reading worked into the current situation. I have been very slowly finishing _Split Tooth_, by Tanya Tagaq.
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Crudbringer:

you guys haven't even mentioned _Lizard Music_.
  9:49am
allanToronto:

Uncle Bill Burroughs' queer sci-fi western trilogy: Cities of the Red Night, The Western Lands, The Place of Dead Roads...ok..gonna drop out and LISTEN now
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Phillippe Bastille:

Good morning Trouble and friends
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briania:

Aw, Haystack. Thank you.
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Handy Haversack:

@sphere: good call! Those books (and the next series, too) are wild. Also _Fifth Head of Cerberus_ and _Seven American Nights_ by Wolfe -- very good.
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βrian:

Sheltering in place means Fresh Roasted Coffee. And Trouble. Good Morning.
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p20:

I'm going to print out a list of all the books mentioned here today and do my best to read them.
  9:52am
ami ad:

Hello D.J. Hello all.Brooklyn calling.Hope all are doing well.Thanks for the tunes.Shalom.
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mariano:

Man, what a great reading list y'all are putting together. Definitely saving.
  9:53am
John from Florham park:

I just finished up listening to the wheel of time series and it is 14 books and a cast of thousands
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Erella:

Oh my goodness! This ESG cover is either the worst thing ever or the best!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53am
Handy Haversack:

@TDK60: NY2140 had special resonance for me since I am already a human-powered boater in the Hudson/Passaic estuary (and live in a place that will surely be underwater in 50 years ...)
  9:53am
allanToronto:

Maybe I'll try to tear off another 100 pages of tennis and depression (aka Infinite Jest) while there's downtime.
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David (in London):

Samuel Beckett's 'Watt' is another brain-bender that I have always loved.
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Little Mexican Girl:

Why not both?
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wizard frog:

yea yea
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TDK60:

Of course, Handy. I just thought some of the personal scenarios were a bit unrealistic.
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Handy Haversack:

@sphere: Have you read Jack Vance's autobiography, _This Is Me, Jack Vance! (Or More Properly, "This Is I")_? Very fun!
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paul:

Does anyone here like flannery o connor?
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David (in London):

And Mark Danielewski's 'The House of Leaves' which is definitely my favourite of this century. Proper freaked me out when I read it.
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p20:

I've been trying to read "The Man Without Qualities" for almost 20 years. Just keep putting it down, forgetting about it, and going back to the beginning. I know the opening pretty well by now. This is not a recommendation.
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David (in London):

I look forward to the P20 Book Review Club muchly!
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p20:

@D(iL) I have some weird resepect for Danielewki, but that book was just 100% impenetrable for me. (Not trying to start an argument! You are a stronger reader than I am)
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allanToronto:

I wanna testify for Flannery O....yeah, Robert Musil...haven't gone there yet
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ottovonbqe:

I tried to read man without qualities once and couldn't do it.
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Handy Haversack:

Ha, @p20 (9:55): ME TOO!

@TDK: I *hear* you. Sometimes I think KSR is running a very sophisticated narrative experiment with how his characters interact. And sometimes I'm just like, dude, have you ever had a conversation?
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mariano:

Been thinking of rereading Invisible Man for a while now. I've only read it once but it knocked my socks off.
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ottovonbqe:

I am working on a novel called The Man who read The Man Without Qualities. But I am thinking of just changing the name to The Man with Coronavirus.
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allanToronto:

ONe of the best American novels there is, Invisible Man
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p20:

@ottovonbque: Good one! I like to joke about "The Man Who Mistook His Wife For The Man Without Qualities"
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David (in London):

p20 - No man, no need to qualify that. It's a dark, difficult and freaky read to be sure. I think it just rather suited my headspace at that time.
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TDK60:

Handy, I think KSR's Mars Trilogy is fab.
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John from Florham park:

Damn guys my TBR pile is going to be never ending:)
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johnk77:

for pynchon on old & weird try
mason & dixon
for pkdick on post-apocalypse
dr.bloodmoney, or how we got along
after the bomb
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HRM Patti Ann I:

Good morning, Trouble. Brand new listener to WFMU. Love your program.
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Handy Haversack:

Agreed, @TDK60! I love Antarctica, too, and really think Aurora is a masterwork.
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βrian:

The Man Who Mistook His Wife to California.
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βrian:

Les mouettes !
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DJ Guin:

@mariano...Ellison or Wells? lol
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David (in London):

We should collate these into a proper Lockdown List.
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Snoochienucci:

bring on the birds!
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TDK60:

Handy, I did read Aurora - gripping. Haven't read Antarctica.
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P-90:

Good birds in the coat closet today.
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John from Florham park:

@Handy listened to aurora very good
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Irene Trudel:

My cats love your birdsong background and come running every time they hear it.
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Crudbringer:

she is consulting her menagerie of birds
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p20:

@D(iL): My addition to the Lockdown List: "The Divers' Game" by Jesse Ball. Or "How To Start A Fire And Why".
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John from Florham park:

@Trouble as long as I cab go out for walks I will be ok
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Trouble:

that's funny, irene!
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V Priceless:

yay Kevin Ayers! Hello!
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p20:

YES KEVIN AYERS! He always makes me smile
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Handy Haversack:

Ah, Scott W. began and ended with Kevin Ayers last night. Excellent.

Trouble, definitely loving the songs while nerding out over here!
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DJ Guin:

"HOME?? I have no home. Hunted, despised, living like an animal! The jungle is my home. But I will show the world that I can be its master! I will perfect my own race of people. A race of atomic Supermen which will conquer the world! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!"
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John from Florham park:

I meant can go for walks
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David (in London):

And then there's always James Ellroy. I absolutely love Ellroy. But it's a little bit like eating an entire chocolate cake: it's delicious but there comes a point when one starts to feel a bit nauseated.
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Bend Sinister:

Funny, started "Planet of Adventure' again yesterday. Jack Vance my favorite author by a mile, one of a kind.
www.sf-encyclopedia.com...
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Roberto:

I think Scott kicked off his show last night with this one.
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PERSONATOR from Highland Park NJ:

I loved the new order track I had never heard of it w the alternate singer.

Thanks for playing great music I love your show.

Your voice w the birds is very calming.
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Trouble:

welcome aboard HRM patti ann I! @handy scott W is probably the biggest kevin ayers fan in residence at fmu
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p20:

@Personator: Actually that was a totally different band
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mariano:

Hey HRM Patti, welcome to the oasis!

@DJ Guin: Haha! Wells, of course (j/k). Actually, aside from War of the Worlds when I was a kid, I don't think I've read anything else by him. Interesting guy, probably worth a deep dive.

Love the Wood/Lugosi reference too!
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Handy Haversack:

Also: a good book during weird confinements: T. H. White (of OaFK), The Goshawk. Trying to train a hawk using methods 400 years out of date while self-exiling to avoid being hated by his friends for being a pacifist during WWII.

@mariano: Wells is *def.* worth a deep dive. There's a LOT.
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allanToronto:

heard this on Scott's show yesterday...Soft Machine's easy listening side
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Marcel M:

Morning, all
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p20:

@Personator: OOPS, sorry my information was wrong!! Sometimes I wish I could delete comments.
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mariano:

Ooh! Just remembered a Raymond Chandler project I began a couple of years back without getting very far. Can definitely see hunkering down with some Chandler.
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Handy Haversack:

@Bend Sinister: There's no one like him.
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johnk77:

from the summary of dr. bloodmoney:
the scattered survivors take comfort from a disc jockey endlessly circling the globe in a broken-down satellite
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listener 126464:

off topic- just got the green door kids mp3's from boomkat
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Handy Haversack:

@mariano: Fitting the context: "Trouble Is My Business"!
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DJ Guin:

@mariano...funny how no one is mentioning King's The Stand. circumstances are eerily similar. Captain Trips may have come to pass.
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Crei6hton:

Morning
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squinchy:

I just finished Ice by Anna Kavan. That is a disturbing book to read during these times. Really during any times...
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David (in London):

@Handy - That first paragraph in Bend Sinister with the puddle is just frackin' amazing.
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Handy Haversack:

@squinchy: YES! Excellent book!

Agreed, DIL!
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Trouble:

very cool that the green kids music is for sale, i got it years ago off a much loved english blog that is of course now defunkt
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John from Florham park:

@DJ guin tge last thing I really want to read right now is the stand
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johnk77:

kassav rocked the party live
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Trouble:

two of my fave used book stores are selling via instagram in these closed doors times; check out brickbatphilly and papernautilus
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Bend Sinister:

@ Handy Haversack Still regret not signing up for Vance Integral Edition (VIE) at the time - too expensive alas
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mariano:

Yes, that allusion was 100% intentional, Handy. [clears throat]

@DJG: The Stand has come up at least once in conversation recently. Actually, there's an English writer, Jim Crace, that I really got into in the early 2000s. Kind of lost track of him, but apparently he has one set in a post-Apocalyptic feudal USA, might be just the thing in these times.
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allanToronto:

James Ellroy's work is my designated TP replacement, for when the going gets rough.
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mariano:

I mean The Stand has come up in conversation with friends, not on the Accu far as I can remember.
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Handy Haversack:

@Bend Sinister: Agreed. Though I am a real sucker for the DAW yellow-spine pbk. editions.
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Phillippe Bastille:

@Mariano I've been on a bit of a Chandler run myself lately.
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John from Florham park:

@Trouble there is a place in the short hills mall called indigos they are based out of Canada but the customer service is better then Barnes and noble
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allanToronto:

Maybe Art of the Deal first, then James Ellroy...
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Handy Haversack:

@Phillippe (hi!) and mariano: I got the Library of America editions of Chandler from a friend who worked there. Stories in one, novels in the other. Excellent stuff.
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listener 126464:

found green door kids at boomkat limited
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Jack:

I just had to comment; you've mentioned 3 of my favorite authors: HG Wells, Kim Stanley Robinson & China Mieville. Just finished "Red Moon" & "The Year of Rice & Salt", got in the mail yesterday "The 3 Californias" & "Icehenge". "Perdido Street Station" "The Scar" & "The Iron Council"= my favorite trilogy, also Mieville turned me on to "Gormanghast"
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David (in London):

Handy, just reading that opening to BS made me completely rethink how to write and what could be achieved with the words you selected. Amazing.
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DJ Guin:

@mariano...there are tons of dystopic post-apocalyptic novels out there..but, thinking about it..why nuke what you desire? a world population decimated by germs..those that survive could seize absolute power, if they wish
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David (in London):

Hi Phillippe.
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Phil in Charlotte:

Great song, and record (darker than blue)
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David (in London):

Shit, we haven't even mentioned Cormac yet. Blood Meridian. Yikes! He always gives me the fear.
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Handy Haversack:

(@Bend Sinister: Kate and I both just said to each other, "No, *your* response is nuncupatory"!)

@DIL: I blew away my students once long ago by just reciting the first page of Lolita when they came into the room. Our transition from poetry to prose writing was chap. 1.
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Bend Sinister:

@ Handy Haversack Have practically everything in Dutch. For mysterious reasons Vance was widely published and popular in Holland in the 70s and 80s. "Emphyrio" and "The Face" my favorites.
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Handy Haversack:

@Jack! Gormenghast! How did we leave it off! Gah! The best!
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allanToronto:

Yeah Jack, if you can get into Peake's Gormenghast, it's well worth it. Bring along a dictionary. It is THE highest form of the fantasy novel (s).
It's....fantastic.
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squinchy:

@DIL, my friends and I used to wax poetic at length about who we would cast as various characters for a film version of blood Meridian
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Trouble:

@john from florham park: words bookstore in maplewood is a pretty great indie bookstore. lots of instore author events.
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Jack:

"The Road" is the bleakest novel I'll never re-read (and I love post-apocalyptic fiction) "Blood Meridian" I couldn't read more than a few dozen pages and then...THE HORROR!
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Handy Haversack:

@BS: My good friend told me he took down Emphyrio the other day for some comfort reading -- and realized he had never read it! New Vance! The best gift of all!
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David (in London):

@squinchy - Good work. Any firm decisions?
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ken krimstein:

nice groove from mr. burell
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Jack:

@allan - I re-read the Gormanghast trilogy on occasion. I love Mervyn Peake.
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upstate sean:

hey trouble, everyone
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sphere:

@ Handy - Never read the Vance autobiography so I guess I have something to do! BTW, fantasy authors that are worth your while (ie great writers) are Patricia McKillip, Robert Holdstock, R.A. MacAvoy, and Paul Park.
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squinchy:

I feel like at the time Christopher Walken was in there somewhere. Maybe, later, Michael Shannon. But to be honest these discussions were always late at night and sodden with booze and other things.
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Phillippe Bastille:

Yeah, I think Chandler gets overlooked due to the genre but that man can paint some word art:
“Man has always been a venal animal. The growth of populations, the huge costs of war, the incessant pressure of confiscatory taxation – all these things make him more and more venal. The average man is tired and scared, and a tired, scared man can’t afford ideals. He has to buy food for his family. In our time we have seen a shocking decline in both public and private morals. You can’t expect quality from people whose lives are a subjection to a lack of quality. You can’t have quality with mass production. You don’t want it because it lasts too long. So you substitute styling, which is a commercial swindle intended to produce artificial obsolescence. Mass production couldn’t sell its goods next year unless it made what is sold this year look unfashionable a year from now. We have the whitest kitchens and the most shining bathrooms in the world. But in the lovely white kitchen the average [person] can’t produce a meal fit to eat, and the lovely shining bathroom is mostly a receptacle for deodorants, laxatives, sleeping pills, and the products of that confidence racket called the cosmetic industry. We make the finest packages in the world, Mr Marlowe. The stuff inside is mostly junk.”
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mariano:

@DJ Guin: You're probably right, though I was thinking that a post-apocalyptic novel might have the same strangely comforting effect as listening to sad music when you're down. Nah... Chandler sounds like the ticket. Plus some of the recommendations above.
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p20:

Vladimir Sorokin "Ice Trilogy"
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Handy Haversack:

Chandler is exquisite. So good.
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steveo:

BJT RULEZZ
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Handy Haversack:

You really started something, @p20!
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mariano:

Baroque jazz? What next, bebop cowboys?
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David (in London):

@Phillippe - Agreed. Chandler was a master with words. I think it's in The Lady in the Lake, Marlowe is being kept waiting deliberately in a reception area and Chandler chucks in a line about how "the minutes tip-toed past with a finger to their lips". Incredible imagery.
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sphere:

Nice to see there are other SF/F readers listening to WFMU.
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TDK60:

My fave writer is probably Ursula K. LeGuin.
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p20:

@HH: Trouble posted the original book list, I just added a little Perec reference...
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allanToronto:

Blood Meridian evinces the utter low evil savagery of 'the Indian Wars', the meridian being the line of longitude that served as the no-go boundary between Indian territory and "civilization" at that time. Every North American should experience the revulsion Cormac's novel sets off...and never forget it when thinking of the indigenous experience here in the 'new world'. Manifest Destiny. Yikes!
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Jack:

"The Earth Abides" (by George R. Stewart) is considered by many to be one of the best post-apocalyptic tales.
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sphere:

I am a huge Ursula K. Le Guin fan.
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Handy Haversack:

@sphere: I get a lot of new books to pick up from reviews here: strangehorizons.com
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northcaroline:

Good tunes as usual, Trouble. Thanks for working from your closet!
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steveo:

rockin the harpsichord
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p20:

re: Le Guin: Loved her "Wizard of Earthsea" as a kid. And now I love her translation of the Tao Te Ching.
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Phillippe Bastille:

...and there's “It seemed like a nice neighborhood to have bad habits in.” and “From 30 feet away she looked like a lot of class. From 10 feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from 30 feet away.”
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Handy Haversack:

Station Eleven, from a few years back, Emily St. John Mandel, is a very good post-plague novel.
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βrian:

Breakfast Nachos are in the oven.

(I feel like were teaching the little one how to make junkfood out of perfectly wholesome ingredients.)
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David (in London):

Handy, I loved Station 11, too. I bought copies for more than a few friends.
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allanToronto:

@Phillipe. "Nice from far. Far from nice."
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listener 126464:

that's natcho breakfast
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Jack:

Also: "A Canticle for Leibowitz" by Walter M. Miller Jr. post atomic war.
Everybody! Thank you for the book recommendations.
And thanks again Trouble!
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mariano:

Yeah, loved Le Guin's Earthsea trilogy, need to read more of her. Same with CS Lewis's Space Trilogy. Been intrigued ever since I was a kid when I found them on my grandparents' shelf.
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zivilars:

love this harpsichord jazz!
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Phillippe Bastille:

@allan love that!
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David (in London):

@allanToronto - There's always a point in every Cormac novel where my stomach starts to tigthen up in dread. Often it doesn't even come to anything, but he's a master of getting you to that edge, even if he never actually pushes you off it.
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Handy Haversack:

Also strong recommendation: The Traitor Baru Cormorant by Seth Dickinson.

And Space Opera by Cathereynne Valente. A love song to David Bowie, Eurovision, and the possibility that the species might actually save itself.
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steveo:

@kenzo -- sets should be first class objects! (and clickystarrable!)
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David (in London):

Peter Ackroyd's Hawksmoor, too. Very London-centric, but a real time-slip masterpiece.
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Erella:

The Au Pairs!!
Thank you

I think I will dig up the Raincoats after this show.
This is all perfect for me today. Thank you
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melinda:

@mariano I read Invisible Man in high school because we had to pick a book off the shelf and write an essay after reading it, and Invisible Man looked like a short read. It turned out someone had put the Invisible Man cover on a different paperback for some reason, it wasn't a short read but yeah, knocked my socks off too.
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sue from brooklyn:

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Phillippe Bastille:

I've always liked Thomas McGuane's early stuff, like "Bushwhacked Piano" and "92 in the Shade".
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sue from brooklyn:

no emoji? beating heart!!
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Jay Goges:

Trouble your show today is AAA+ <3
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Trouble:

merci@jay goges!
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P-90:

For what it’s worth, I recommend Cory Doctorow’s “Radicalized”, a quartet of four short stories set in near futures that that run from very dystopian to not do much. It’s a new book and very up-to-the minute in its point of view. And he writes well.
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TomDash:

Hey Trouble. Thanks for doing the show remote. Love this Au Pairs song! Who’s doing the board op this morning?
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Handy Haversack:

We haven't even TOUCHED on short stories. We really go through short story collections around here.

@DIL: Have you read Jo Walton's Small Change trilogy? "What if England went fascist in WWII?": Farthing, Ha'penny, Half a Crown. Excellent.
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Vanessa bikes:

We are dancing in the kitchen to your show...
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Micheal:

Mask of the Red Death by Poe is apropos these days. Imagining it reset at Mar A Lago is entertaining.
Stay safe all. Thank you for sounds of Spring, Trouble!
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P-90:

*from very dystopian to not SO much...
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βrian:

My habib'ti loved Station 11, though she was sure she wouldn't.
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Snoochienucci:

this ones hitting me nice
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Trouble:

big thanks to Matt Warwick superstar board op this morning!!! ( thanks tomdash for reminding me...)
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steveo:

more harpsichord!
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Slaboch:

Great to hear you Trouble!
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Jack:

The first book I ever received as a child was a HG Wells omnibus: 2 novels and a bunch of short stories. "War of the Worlds" and "The Time Machine", but it's the short stories that have stuck with me almost 50 years later.
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allanToronto:

@D in London. Cormac, for North Americans at least, I think, sorta draws you up close and demonstrates that you've fallen OFF the ledge already, quite a while back. He pulls back the curtain (almost cruelly) so that you see real violence at the heart of this house of cards that we live in. It's hard and merciless and you're all alone really...it's the desert, and there's you and the those buzzards giving you the eye. That whore wants your boots. The rotgut's almost gone. Yer outta smokes. The wind is calling your name.
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Handy Haversack:

I recently edited a scholarly but very readable reassessment of Wells. THAT was a deep dive. Made me read some of his non-SF for the first time. _Tono Bungay_!
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ken krimstein:

nice acoustic vibe here...mccord
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Crudbringer:

You got your garbage in my trouble!
You got your trouble in my garbage!
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Handy Haversack:

Ugh, I have an 11 AM meeting that will tear me away from you fine people, and I don't know that I will be back before 12.

Trouble, thank you so much. Thanks for being there and doing this and letting us all do the rest of this. Excellent show this morning!

And thanks, Matt!
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mariano:

@David: Yes, LOVE Hawksmoor. First Ackroyd I read. Perfect setting too: was staying in London with a friend, found it on his shelf, so I was able to go to some of the churches. Take care, @Handy!
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TomDash:

Thanks Matt Warwick...and all the skeleton crew at 43! Great show Trouble
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DJ Guin:

@Handy,,,just discovered that Wells had the Beets! Nice to know his zaftig girth had its drawbacks
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allanToronto:

I wonder how H.G. Wells plays in America. He's quite a lefty really. The Time Machine is a warning about social disenfranchisement/haves vs have-nots, and the monsters that will come back to eat a society once that sets in....maybe.
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David (in London):

@allanToronto - That's a good summation. I remember that scene in Outer Darkness where he lands the boat and sits around the fire with a group of unsavoury characters. The unspoken implication is that they are going to murder him, or maybe even eat him. I remember my heart starting to beat faster. They don't of course, but it was masterful writing.
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P-90:

It just seems a bit of a symptom of the underlying thinking (or lack of) that has made the present situation so difficult, when I see folks identifying with stories, like The Stand, about apocalyptic plagues. This is NOT that, this is the kind of not-apocalyptic pandemic disease event that will continue to occur once every few generations or so. We just don’t seem to have learned that lesson very well, or learned to prepare and plan well for the (actually routine) arrival of these things.
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David (in London):

mariano - Super cool. Do you remember which ones you went to?
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listener 126464:

kevin morby is live tonight with katie crutchfield on her IG
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DJ Guin:

@P-90...President SprayTan sez things will be just ducky by Zombie Jesus Resurrection Day. We have already surpassed the workdwide toll of H1N1 (which lasted 20 months) in a shorter span. THIS is not a FLU. There are no 'cures' for viruses. You either survive or you don't. Antibiotics are over prescribed and just result in newer, resistant strains of Staph, etc.
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P-90:

None of which addresses my point...
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TDK60:

Well, I'm going to take a shower, and plan to also wash my hands while doing so. Back soon..
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Earth Walker:

ParUbi. Have Happy Healthy one !
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allanToronto:

Anti-biotics are just that. They are living organisms (bacteria) that destroy other bacteria. A virus is a chemical structure (not really alive), so antibiotics have absolutely NOTHING to do with viruses. This seems to be a huge basic misunderstanding of basic science that many people adhere to.
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DJ Guin:

My point is this going to much, much worse before people take it seriously. 1918 was a flu; 500 million contracted. 50 millions succumbed. Even with 'modern' medicine, we have become arrogant and reckless.
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mariano:

Short stories? Alice Munro, Chekhov, Flannery O'Connor, William Trevor, and my go-to comfort reading, Borges. @David: Christ Church Spittalfields, St George's Bloomsbury, and St Mary Woolnoth. It was the pre-Google Maps 90s and I have no sense of direction, so it's a miracle I made it to those three. On another trip I saw St Alphege's but didn't go in (staying with the same friend who'd since moved close to Greenwich).
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P-90:

Yes, when I hear folks bringing up antibiotics in the context of a viral epidemic, that’s exactly the lack of focus on the realities of these events that disturbs me.
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Trouble:

surprised no one has mentioned patrick modiano. and also, weird that most of the authors mentioned are male...
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DJ Guin:

@P-90..we are in agreement about that. I cringe when I hear parents give their children antibiotics everytime they fall ill. No matter what the illness.
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P-90:

@Trouble: Good point. Sorry.
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David (in London):

Trouble, then I will chuck in two personal favourites: Daphe Du Maurier and Shirley Jackson.
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Rich in Bay Ridge:

Deerhoof makes things better for a few minutes at least
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p20:

Scanning my bookshelves here - how did I manage to completely forget Roberto Bolaño?
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Jack:

speaking of female authors...I recently read "Oryx and Crake' by Margaret Atwood. Boy, was that depressing! But I recommend it. Talk about dystopian!
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Bill W:

I've been reading the 1951 Anna Seghers novel TRANSIT, basis of last year's Petzold film, about a man stuck in Marseille in 1940. It resonates...
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Priscilla:

Happy song!
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waters7:

Thank you thank you thank you!
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ratso:

This makes me smile!
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James in ATL:

I never get tired of hearing ELO. Always makes me feel better.
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P-90:

duMaurier: great choice. “The Birds” is one of the all-time brilliant apocalypses in modern fiction.
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DJ Guin:

@Jack..the way women started dressing as Handmaidens after the series premiered only goes to show today's celebs are just...well, you know.
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Carmichael:

For later watching: www.youtube.com...

And good morning, Trouble and skeletons.
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David (in London):

p20 - Great call. 2666 is an absolute bloody monster.
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allanToronto:

Even physicians prescribe antibiotics for patients with a cold for instance, for a virus, Why? Because the patients insist, and medicine complies for some reason....is it really evil big pharma sell, sell, selling? It has no effect whatsoever on ANY virus, and in addition, it constantly exposes all know bacterial pathogens to the few known antibiotics, allowing them to evolve resistance to them, because bacteria produce a knew generation about every 12 hours, so their time/evolutionary scale is much accelerated compared to that of other organisms on this rock. It's insane really.
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P-90:

Atwood writes very well. And has played well the game of writing science fiction while skirting that label.
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mndave:

@Trouble - Tuning in late but it sounds fantastic, as if you were in the studio. Kudos to Andy and Matt ww!
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melinda:

I've read that antiobiotic use for cattle is a larger problem in terms of increasing the number of antibiotic-resistant strains. Not that over-prescription for humans isn't bad, but that the scale is different.
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wizard frog:

I'm working from home with a tub of ben & jerrys - such is life
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morphe':

David van der Stoke/book folks - I became angry/jealous when I first read Sebald because I was doing texts with images (getting nowhere$)except small magazines in NYC.. I let it go and just enjoyed him... was saddened at the early lost..
A good read: The Hidden Life of Trees - A German Forestiere who talks about the interconnectedness of trees and their environment and their active intelligence and their ability to communicate to trees around them..(rhizome communication networks!!! - fuckin' commies are everywhere!! Even in the soil!!!corrupting the tress!!!!)
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Reno D:

Get Carter! Jonathan Something mentions that film in his hilarious song Had an Ass Like Gold. Cracked me up.
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Carmichael:

I am sheltering in place at work. I'm in government procurement, and this is a high-stress and brain-twisting time for us.
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wizard frog:

Government procurement, couldn't even begin to imagine how that works let alone in a situation like this...
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mariano:

Muriel Spark and Doris Lessing - two more I've been meaning to get into for years after really enjoying some short stories. We should all get an extra life just for reading. @Carmichael - hope you're staying safe, thanks for helping to keep things running.
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Lewis:

Melinda - important to keep bacterial and viral infections separate in your mind. SARS-CoV-2 is a virus and viruses are not living in the way that bacteria are. Viruses are a really weird combination of proteins that use biological cells to reproduce. To stop a virus you need to either break the virus or interrupt is functioning inside of its host cells.
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-Ken:

Morning all!
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morphe':

Allan in Toronto.. Highrise is frightening ... let us hope there are will be no actual food shortages... Have you read Ballard's WHY I WANT TO FUCK Ronald Reagan?
A text for our time; Full text attached..Do not know if it is pre or post CRASH:
https://spurleditions.com/blog/2017/6/22/ballard-ronald-reagan
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Lewis:

Hi Ken!
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Trouble:

some covid 19 resources :
www.cdc.gov...

nj.gov...

www.nj.gov...

www.fhfa.gov...
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Trouble:

from aminatta forna
lithub.com...
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TDK60:

I'm back from the shower, drying off. Now I plan to watch the latest speech from the NYC mayor or NY State Govt. I will ignore any press conferences with the national chief executive (as I'm not in a mood to vomit).
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David (in London):

Hello Kenmeister.
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allanToronto:

@Melinda. Yes. Factory-scale animal farming is brutal to animals to the degree that anti-biotics are used extensively to keep them alive. Those cows are chained standing in steel milking pens, on concrete floors that can be hosed cleanf, so under theri own weight their hooves split open and become infected (they have no choice but to stand in faeces all day)...so yadda yadda yadda...this stuff's in yer milk, yer meat, etc.....I know,this is a big downer...but you're right, industrial scale agriculture puts a lot of antibiotics into your food and water
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morphe':

Ballard's WHY I Want....
just re-reading it - forgot it was given out the 1980 convention on Republican letterhead (long live the Situationists!!!). Cannot believe I did not remember this in 2015-2014... The text needs a few name changes y Voila!! a text for our time "... Vaginal intercourse with “Reagan” proved uniformly disappointing, producing orgasm in 2 percent of subjects.
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meredith:

Oh, it's really @trouble today? <3 <3 thank you for some normalcy. I hope everyone is safe. Checking in from Chapel Hill, NC where we are all at home
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P-90:

Guten morgen, Herr Brodkastgruppenfuhrer Ken.
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Jack:

Wow! Who are you people? I literally have "The Complete Stories of JG Ballard" sitting right here in front of me. Well, my cat is sitting on them.
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Artie:

Listening at home in Raleigh NC today. Thanks, Trouble!
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Trouble:

raleigh and chapel hill checking in within minutes of each other: what are the chances? good morning!
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melinda:

@allanToronto I also heard that antibiotics are used routinely to increase growth, not just address infection.
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tim from Champaign (now washington):

Hi Trouble and everybody!
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P-90:

Ballard was always brilliant, and seems more and more relevant all the time, for his ideas AND his aesthetic.
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βrian:

Yeah, and it's not even understood *why* antibiotics increase growth in livestock. But hey, if it makes money ...
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tim from Champaign (now washington):

Mariano - I cant recommend Doris Lessing’s novels high enough. What are you going to start with?
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waters7:

goin' dark, gurl
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Mick:

Good (late) morning Trouble and all. What a literary chat today - I'll be returning to the archive just to read the book recs. Many thanks!
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allanToronto:

@Melinda. That makes sense, in light of general health of the animals. A NOT SICK pig will grow unimpeded by difficulty into a bigger fleshier beast, a trait that can even be passed on to offspring. Health and growth are related.
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Trouble:

c'mon @ emily: the cello is never dark, always beautiful!
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TomDash:

My dog starting barking at the bells! Lovely piece...reminds me of Arvo Part
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waters7:

maybe I meant deep
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βrian:

We're all trying to do our Pärt.
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meredith:

Cocteau Twins = my mood for the past 30 days
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meredith:

Hey @Artie. Hope Raleigh is doing ok.
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mariano:

@tim FC: Usually when I make a project of a particular writer or school I go chronologically. But Lessing was so prolific that I get a near-panic attack looking at her list of works. Any recommendations?
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morphe':

Melinda/Allan: read about Thalidomide - was given in the 50s-60s as "morning sickness relief" med.. Led to deaths and birth defects - the most common was the hand coming out of the elbow(s)... When banned - it was sold to cattle farms as a growth hormone???? Found it ia a fiction: MY YEAR OF MEAT but true!!! Not the greatest novel but worth the read... = Desperate starving East Village writer(auto-bio part) takes on a paying project regading meat recipes..
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peter in SEA:

Good Morning Trouble and Thursday people. Wow, what a voice this singer has, hadn't heard of him before, once again Trouble & FMU with the new music for me! Grateful.
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Trouble:

start with the golden notebook @ mariano
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Trouble:

hola @peter!
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peter in SEA:

Also, was there a plague-times reading list posted before? Can someone please re-post that list? Obrigado ;-)
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mariano:

Thanks @Trouble!
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Artie:

Greetings, Meredith. My little corner of Raleigh is OK, AFAICT. Quiet/Surreal. Hope you're well. Best to ya.
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allanToronto:

Doris Lessing's Briefing For A Descent Into Hell is a short novel that is quite a mindfuck. Maybe, due to its brevity, it might be a good place to start also.
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Greg from ZONE 5:

Morning, Trouble & all!
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peter in SEA:

Bom dia, Trouble! Obrigado for the remote broadcast! Thanks Andy!
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mariano:

Appreciate the recommendation, @allan. @peter - the list is scattered throughout the comments. I'm going to copy and paste the whole thing into a Word doc and extract the book titles.
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morphe':

My Year of Meat..Recollecting - dangerous for me ...My Year of Meat veers fromSouthern use pot roast recipe contests using RC cola or Pepsi to spouse abuse in Japan.... and....
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allanToronto:

Incidentally, (heh) I am really enjoying this show Trouble. I may never get out of this WFMU vortex that I've been sucked into now. Spending a lot of time exploring all of its mutant radio streams....getting tired..was up late listening to small change's set last night....
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Huh ... just received an email form Uber Eats with a promo code to save $120 on my first two orders, provided I spend $150 or more. I wonder if that is worthwhile or not?
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tim from Champaign (now washington):

Mariano - I agree that the Golden Notebook and Briefing for A Descent are great starters. The Good Terrorist is also a good one.
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David (in London):

mariano - Are you going to do that? I was planning on doing it too.
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TDK60:

In the NYC mayor speech I'm listening to he says, on the idea we can all be back together by Easter, he doesn't think so at all!, thinks April will be /worse/ than March in NYC. (Trouble I plan to listen to the rest of your wonderful show via the archive later).
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Carmichael:

People are referencing lots of great reading material, but I have 2 movie recommendations: Bergman's Seventh Seal, and Gilliam's 12 Monkeys. Perfect downer movies for these plague-ridden times.
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Kevin-san:

Barbara!!! <3
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Hubig Pie:

My year of sugar, grease, caffeine and alcohol
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Julien à Montréal:

La dame en noir..
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Jack:

An old blog of post-apocalyptic fiction: thefinchandpea.com...
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mariano:

With the list, you mean, David? Yeah, soon as the show's over. Thanks tim fc, going on the list.
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Carmichael:

Dude, that's my adulthood ...
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peter in SEA:

Thank you @Mariano! For the young ones amongst us: Feed, by MT Anderson ;-)
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allanToronto:

@morphe. One of the guitar players that used to work with Tav Falco in Memphis (Panther Burns) was a Thalidomide baby I think. He was a really manic psycho-billy guitar player, so when I saw him live I was surprised to see that he was holding his pick in a 'flipper'. He made the best of a bad situation. Real bad muthaf***a.
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UncleMarty:

So many novels ... upbeat - Zombie Survival Guide - Max Brooks ( I now have a machete under my bed)
Less so: Earth Abides – George R. Stewart ‘Men come and go, but earth abides.’
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peter in SEA:

Love the trilling "r" in so much French chanteuse music!
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ken krimstein:

could be in the masterpiece by lubitsch -- trouble in paradise -- watch it right after this show...
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listener 126464:

beautiful cardinal hanging around the back door here for a few days
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mariano:

Haha! Speaking of Tinker, Tailor...
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morphe':

In the time of Le Peste forget not Camus' THE PLAGUE(heard the film is not so good so
stick to the text)
also - for visual effect: Bosch y Breugal
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Stevel:

Great show as usual! Thank you, Trouble!!
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Carmichael:

@mariano, did you know that your reference (and John Le Carre's, by extension) is to a very old "skipping song"? I guess Yanks call them hopscotch songs.
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jdaAndAnoukFromKöln:

hello from the home office. good thing: anouk is outside on the balcony laying in the sun…
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David (in London):

@allanToronto - I don't think he was with them the one time I saw them here in London. Top man, though by the sound of it. Ian Dury was another who took his disability and turned it into rock and roll gold.
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Trouble:

thanks @stevel!
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waters7:

Thanks, babe! Until next week.
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Carmichael:

I saw Roger McGuinn perform this solo back in the 90s. Great song!
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Marcel M:

I've somehow never heard this cover.. love this song.
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allanToronto:

@Ken! That sounds like a shit-ton of takeout for 30 simoleons...could be a good thing, provided the delivery is germ-free. Therein lies the unadvertised excitement factor. Take the plunge. G'wan. Heh heh heh
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steveo:

marcel go listen to this whole album!
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sphere:

recommended female authors in SF: C.J. Cherryh, Jo Clayton, Ann Leckie, Nnedi Okorafor, Octavia Butler, Nancy Kress, Martha Wells, Kameron Hurley.
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allanToronto:

@David. Yeah, Ian Dury was unstoppable. He used to teach art in East London somewhere too I think
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esha:

i love mole suit choir, such a pleasure to hear them on the radio, thank u
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Trouble:

@sphere: add N K Jemisin
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morphe':

Sphere : Octvia Butler!!!!!!!
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TDK60:

Oh yeh Sphere, Octavia Butler is great.
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tw2sheds:

Connie Willis
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mariano:

I knew it was something along the lines of a nursery rhyme, Carmichael, though I never knew anything specifically about its origin.
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morphe':

TDK - we might be cousins -
the name of our band!!
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Carmichael:

A line from Dury's Body Song that has somehow always stuck with me:

The leg, a source of great delight.
Distributes weight and governs height.
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allanToronto:

Huh...I have Connie Willis Doomsday Book coming in the mail. Weird.
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Trouble:

great news: Liz Durette just put out a new digital album on bandcamp!!!
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Jack:

Karen Fowler, and don't forget Mary Shelley!
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David (in London):

@allanToronto - He went to the same school as I did, so I used to get teachers' recollections of him. He was one tough bastard by the sound of it. When asked to write a song for the disabled rights community, he delived Spasticus Autisticus - I don't think it was QUITE what they had in mind!
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morphe':

Thanks Trouble and all at FMU on Line University...
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Trouble:

thanks for sitting in this morn. see you next week!
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listener 126464:

Thanks Trouble!
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βrian:

Unpossible! The show is almost over??
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Julien à Montréal:

Merci mille fois Trouble! Thank you!
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12539:

Thanks for being there, Trouble.
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jim in the d:

@sphere and @trouble, Pat Cadigan for female sf list
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P-90:

Another, very contemporary female SF author is Peng Shepherd, whose recent “The Book of M” is a kind of “plague story”.
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steveo:

Liz Durette is wonderful! Thanks for the stupendous show, Trouble.
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morphe':

Ian Dury doc is amazing..
He got the polio in a public swimming pool
never knew that
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mariano:

Thank you Trouble and Skeleton Crew! Great talking with everyone as always, will turn the book recommendations into a list and later on if anyone is interested I can post/send a pdf. Be safe y'all!
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Phillippe Bastille:

Thanks Trouble. Stay safe everyone!
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esha:

also love liz durette. baltimore forever
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allanToronto:

@David. Hah. Yup, I'm pretty sure Dury defied expectations. Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick was one of my fave early videos. And New Boots and Panties remains one of the finest album covers ever run off of a press. I loved that guy. He should still be here. Oh well.
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sphere:

thanks trouble
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p20:

I'm collating all the books and authors mentioned today here: docs.google.com...
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Handy Haversack:

Back just in time to say goodbye. Thanks, Trouble, Matt. L8r, friends!
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Priscilla:

Thanks Trouble!
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p20:

Just getting started filling it out. But it will be completed soon.
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David (in London):

@allanToronto - I second that emotion. Let's raise a glass to him tonight.
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Marcel M:

@Steveo: will do!
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Phillippe Bastille:

Thanks P20 -- I was just on WordPress trying to set something up but the Google doc is better
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David (in London):

Thanks Trouble and all you wonderful groovers.
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mariano:

Thanks p20!
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P-90:

Catherine Asaro is another female SF author worth checking out.
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Handy Haversack:

(Don't let Mark Hurst hear you say that, PB!)
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P-90:

Thanks, DJ Trouble!
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peter in SEA:

Thank you Trouble!
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tw2sheds:

Just occurred to me, you need a tiny little pen to address a point......TY Trouble
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