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Favoriting November 11, 2019: Tim Maughan, author, "Infinite Detail"

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Tonight, journalist and author Tim Maughan talks about his novel Infinite Detail.

Pointers to Tim Maughan's work:

• Infinite Detail, by Tim Maughan

• Paintwork, short-story collection by Tim Maughan (which he references during the interview)

• Tim Maughan's journalism

• How Shipping Giant Maersk Dealt With a Malware Meltdown (Wired, July 2017)

• The Environmental Toll of a Netflix Binge, by Ingrid Burrington in the Atlantic (Dec 2015): "The data centers that support the Internet use a huge amount of energy."

• Review of Infinite Detail (LA Times, Oct 26): "Infinite Detail is a challenge as much as a warning. How can we remake the technological world in the name of ethics and equity?"


Source: AP


Recent tech news:

• Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi said Jamal Khashoggi's murder was 'a mistake' by the Saudi government (Business Insider, Nov 10): "Speaking to 'Axios on HBO,' Khosrowshahi defended his company's ties to the Saudi state, which represents Uber's fifth-largest investor."

• The failure of Uber's self-driving car (Nov 10): "According to investigators, Uber's organizational structure wasn't built to catch safety errors, and its software included glaring safety holes. Like that the cars were explicitly programmed not to react to an oncoming crash for the space of 1 second, apparently because the software saw so many 'ghosts' that engineers seemed more worried about hard braking for no reason than because the vehicle was about to hit something. Or that the car wasn’t 'taught' to recognize pedestrians outside of crosswalks. It's ugly stuff."

• Interview with Zadie Smith on fighting the algorithm (The Star, Nov 8): "Any young writer who (isn’t) fully dominated by the algorithm is to me, godlike, because it’s so hard to resist. If you are under 30, and you are able to think for yourself right now, God bless you."

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  What would happen if the Internet turned off? Tim Maughan discusses his novel "Infinite Detail," which compares an Internet-free world with today's tech-saturated society.
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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techstaways!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:01pm
listener james from westwood:

Oh, jeez, Olivia just said this show is especially grim ... ::shudder::
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:01pm
ultradamno:

Not the usual ray of sunshine?
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herb.nyc:

tuning in at apple store, soho - let me try and have the audio piped into the store...
  6:02pm
Dave Miss:

Back to especially Grim!
  6:02pm
John from Florham park:

Hello fellow technoids
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annie:

yes i am!
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chresti:

Hello Mark and Techtoniacs
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Franco Twinkie:

There will be fist fights over postage stamps if the internet goes flooey.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:09pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello, Mark and those circling the Techto-drain.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:09pm
ultradamno:

Ooopsie
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:09pm
Bas NL:

Hi Mark! All!
  6:10pm
JakeGould:

Hey Mark! Thanks for playing that! Whoopsie, I just cut up a journalist with a bonesaw! My bad! WHOOPSIE!!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:12pm
ultradamno:

Will self-driving cars soon use facial recognition to determine if a pedestrian is worth braking for?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:13pm
Webhamster Henry:

"Who among us can honestly say they've not burned down some great public building? I know I have!"
-- obligatory Python quote
Avatar 6:14pm
Fredericks:

It could have been a deer, a toddler, a puppy, a terrorist!
  6:14pm
JakeGould:

@UtlraDamno: Nah, they will have self-driving cars identify hot chicks and then the car breaks and boats the “Ooo-la-la…” part of Van Halen’s “Beautiful Girls” and then AirDrops a bikini wax coupon to said woman and drives off.
  6:14pm
JakeGould:

Correction: Should read, “…breaks and blasts…”
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:15pm
Franco Twinkie:

I started many fires as a carefree youngster and I turned out just fine!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:15pm
chresti:

How do we know he's human?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:15pm
ultradamno:

It's the kind of rationale you'll hear if you watch the documentaries The Act of Killing/The Look of Silence
Avatar 6:16pm
Fredericks:

It was only one journalist, Jake. They're still learning.
  6:17pm
JakeGould:

You got break some eggs to make a omelette I get… Pobody’s perfect!!!
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annie:

i get my socks made locally
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:17pm
Phillippe Bastille:

Hi all
  6:18pm
JakeGould:

NERFECT!!!
  6:18pm
Barbie:

Looking down 6th Avenue there are few yellow cabs but a steady stream of black suv Uber cars
So sad
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:19pm
Folsom:

If you think an internet outage is bad, watch Connections by James Burke in the 70's about an electricity outage, better hope you know how use a horse and plow, everything else is down.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:19pm
ultradamno:

Back to shortwave!
  6:19pm
steuben:

so funny - I just listened to the audio book last week and went to recommend it to you on... Twitter!! haha, of course Mark Hurst doesn't have Twitter
Avatar 🤖 ♥ 6:19pm
herb.nyc:

was at big tag sale yesterday - I bought a board game and radio. told older man that "when Armageddon comes, I'll be ready". wait, my radio is plug-in. there was a solar powered radio available.
  6:20pm
JakeGould:

@steuben: Mark has a tweeter. twitter.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:20pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for logging in tonight!
@Steuben, I am on Twitter, at @markhurst
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:20pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

(This would be a good spot for a steel drum interlude.)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:22pm
Franco Twinkie:

One thing is certain if the internet goes down, I'll finally read some of these books that have been piling up and collecting dust for the past twenty years.
  6:23pm
steuben:

oh lovely, now I can follow :) the search algos obviously didn't want me to find you
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:23pm
Franco Twinkie:

I might even fix the turntable and listen to a record.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:25pm
ultradamno:

I've always thought it was odd how quickly all our eggs got put in this one basket and how people seemed to scorn the idea that not everything had be done online.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:25pm
Webhamster Henry:

When the electricity goes out here, I crank up the VV-IXa and spin some shellac.
  6:26pm
kevlicki:

Evening mark and all us paratechnoids
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:26pm
Webhamster Henry:

I'm trying to get local businesses to start running tabs instead of using credit cards.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:27pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Assuming it's not below freezing, I'm going camping in the back yard when the internet goes down.
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chresti:

Bite for a five?
  6:30pm
kevlicki:

I guess I won’t be refreshing this message boardwhen the internet goes down
Avatar 🤖 ♥ 6:31pm
herb.nyc:

let's start downloading the internet, pre-armagedon. I'll do the H websites. plz do the others.
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Fredericks:

A couple years back, after a severe storm, we lost internet access for a day or so. I was playing records and cassettes. Reading a book. It was like Deja Vu all day.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:36pm
Folsom:

Microsoft Hololens 2 just went on sale recently, $3500, pretty bulky though
  6:37pm
ignatatus666:

Sounds like Halloween part 3
The masks had a chip that controlled the children
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:37pm
Folsom:

Apple supposed to be working on augmented reality, supposed to come out with glasses like 2022.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:38pm
Webhamster Henry:

A lot of startups twist their business plans to find some way to stuff in advertising.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:39pm
Mark Hurst:

@Folsom, you're right, & I'll probably dive into that in a future show. SPEX ARE COMING.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:40pm
Mark Hurst:

Josh Fruhlinger on Twitter:
"UBER CRITICS: uber programmed their self-driving car to kill
UBER DEFENDERS: that's a gross oversimplification. software errors are not murder
UBER CEO: our self-driving cars are sort of like that time the saudis dismembered a journalist"
twitter.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:41pm
Mark Hurst:

@hunterwalk on Twitter:
“We killed a person too” is the strangest dodge.
twitter.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:42pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

On the bright side, Uber and Lyft are dead in their tracks when the internet goes down.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:42pm
Mark Hurst:

Mathana on Twitter: **it wasn't a "mistake" - it was criminal negligence & manslaughter**
twitter.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:43pm
Webhamster Henry:

The answer is simple - pay everyone well (or make everything free) so they don't have to work, and they won't need to exploit other people.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:45pm
Webhamster Henry:

I will say this about self driving cars or any AI in general: it learns from its mistakes, unlike people.
Also, if the model is in the cloud, EVERY client of that AI also learns.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:45pm
Franco Twinkie:

I can start a fire with two cloths pins, can you?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:47pm
Folsom:

Peter F Hamilton had a sci fi series where everyone was augmented, you had implants in the eyes to avoid glasses, could look up knowledge, sensors that could see your heartrate, etc.
  6:47pm
John from Florham park:

Just put iniifinte detail on hold from the library
Avatar 6:48pm
Fredericks:

Speaking of eggs, never a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket.
  6:51pm
P-90:

Important interview. SF authors reliably prove themselves not so much capable as simply willing to consider the potential consequences of all-too possible events and trends.
Avatar ♥ 6:53pm
annie:

she uses a vintage 1910 weaving machine designed to make socks..
  6:53pm
P-90:

The Moral of the Story: “Get to know your local sockmaker”
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:54pm
melinda:

I started thinking about the environmental costs of Netflix and Youtube viewing when my cable internet went down and I was relying on a limited mobile hot spot plan. Casual viewing jacked up my bill at at an alarming rate and I realized I was using more juice without realizing it.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:54pm
ultradamno:

In The Walking Dead they're using horse-drawn automobiles now that the gas has gone bad, which seems hard on the horses.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:55pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

For $X, your company's advertisement will be stored locally and prominently displayed should the internet go down.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:56pm
Webhamster Henry:

There's also this Peak Oil Dystopia: en.wikipedia.org...
  6:57pm
Dave Miss:

Loved Connections! Great Interview MH.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm
Webhamster Henry:

When it all goes down, I can still make some flip books to replace TikTok.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm
coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:59pm
chresti:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 7:00pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone!
Avatar 7:01pm
Fredericks:

Invest in Socks not stocks!
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