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Playlist for 04 September 2019 Favoriting | Down The Manson Hole We Go - Interview with Tom O'Neill

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Leonard Cohen  The Future   Favoriting Title Track 
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JC Satan  Heall Death Samba   Favoriting Title Track 
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Cabaret Voltaire  Hell's Home   Favoriting The Covenant, The Sword And The Arm Of The Lord 
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Gilbert Gottfried  Charles Manson   Favoriting       0:14:10 (Pop-up)
Siouxsie & The Banshees  Helter Skelter   Favoriting  
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Sunwatchers w/ Eugene Chadbourne  This Ain't No Picnic   Favoriting  
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Phew  Signal   Favoriting Self Titled 
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Music behind DJ:
Isi   Favoriting  
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Munya  Blue Pine   Favoriting Meet 
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The Mamas & The Papas  Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming To The Canyon)   Favoriting Bad Times at The El Royale (OST) 
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Lena Zavaroni  Ma!!!!!!!!! He's Making EYES AT ME!!!!!!   Favoriting Ma!!!!!!!!! He's Making EYES AT ME!!!!!! 
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Rachel Sweet  B.A.B.Y.   Favoriting       0:41:40 (Pop-up)
Andre Williams  Jailbait   Favoriting  
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Lena Zavaroni  Help Me Make It Through The Back Alley   Favoriting Ma!!!!!!!!! He's Making EYES AT ME!!!!!! 
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Quartetto Cetra  Crapa Pelada   Favoriting  
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Comedian Harmonists  Irgendwo auf der Welt (Somewhere in the World)   Favoriting  
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Gotz Allsmann  Dein Kuss Von Gestern Nacht Mein Schatz   Favoriting  
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Severija  Zu Asche, Zu Staub   Favoriting  
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Ute Lemper & Neil Hannon  Tango Ballad   Favoriting Punishing Kiss 
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Helge Schneider  Wenn Der Komet Kommt   Favoriting PartyPeople 
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Juu & G. Jee ジュウ&G・ジェー  Nang   Favoriting New Luk Thung ニュー・ルークトゥン (นิวลูกทุ่ง 
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Big Blood  Pox   Favoriting My Body, Tis of Thee 
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Music behind DJ:
Jonathan Kane 
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Interview with Tom O'Neill  Author of "Chaos, Charles Manson, The CIA and The Secret History of the Sixties"   Favoriting  
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The Beach Boys  Never Learn Not To Love   Favoriting 20 20 
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Interview with Tom O'Neill  Author of "Chaos, Charles Manson, The CIA and The Secret History of the Sixties"   Favoriting  
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Neil Young  Revolution Blues   Favoriting On The Beach 
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Interview with Tom O'Neill  Author of "Chaos, Charles Manson, The CIA and The Secret History of the Sixties"   Favoriting       1:54:32 (Pop-up)
The Byrds  Bells of Rhymney   Favoriting Mr Tambourine Man 
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Interview with Tom O'Neill  Author of "Chaos, Charles Manson, The CIA and The Secret History of the Sixties"   Favoriting  
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Sonic Youth (w / Lydia Lunch)  Death Valley '69   Favoriting Bad Moon Rising 
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Interview with Tom O'Neill  Author of "Chaos, Charles Manson, The CIA and The Secret History of the Sixties"   Favoriting  
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The New Surfsiders  Kokomo   Favoriting  
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Max Frost & the Troopers  The Shape of Things to Come   Favoriting Wild in the Streets OST 
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The Billy Nayer Show  Party   Favoriting The American Astronaut Soundtrack 
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Mamuthones  Simon Choule   Favoriting Fear On The Corner 
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Mueran Humanos  La Gente Gris   Favoriting Hospital Lullabies 
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Friends with Benefits of Dean Martinez  The Warmth of the Sun   Favoriting       2:51:44 (Pop-up)

Listener comments!

Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 7:45am Snortley:

Where am I? Is this the Dark Web?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:53am -Ken:

Welcome Snortley!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 7:56am AnAnonymousParty:

GM y'all, how are you now? There's something creepy about that guy with the beard, but I just can't quite figure out what it is. Shifty eyes maybe?
  8:01am Ғory (::

Hi! Talking about Donald Manson, I'm Ғory (Fofo+Cory), the first deep fake commenter in the history of WFMU.
  8:01am Ғory (::

A part of me is requesting Bare Naked Ladies. Don't listen to it, Ken!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:29am -Ken:

Great request, f0ry! I'm gonna play their rockin' version of "Mandy."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:52am cory:

this is so weird and i'm not even stoned
Avatar Swag For Life Member 8:54am cory:

and i was going to request the GnR cover of Manson off of the Spaghetti Incident
  9:00am Rachel Bo Bachel:

Ken your dad sounds way cool :) have a great show!
  9:00am ҒoҒo (:

I agree, cory. I can only hope Fory, the first ever deep fake commenter in the history of WFMU playlist comments, doesn't embarrasses both of us.
  9:03am Rachel Bo Bachel:

Ken that’s really cute that you love toddlers <3 you can borrow mine anytime!!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:03am melinda:

Morning Staysh, lookin forward to the interview.
Avatar 9:03am Lixiviated Life:

Howdy cow-pokes.
GIF-Y UP Kemosabes
Avatar 9:03am Fredericks:

I love this tune. When I hear it I smile, because it almost always means funny things will follow.
  9:03am pellegrino.steve:

morning staysh. pelly staying the course.
Avatar 9:04am Roberto:

Yeah toddlers aren't 6-9 months. More like 18 months.
Avatar 9:04am Lixiviated Life:

Avatar 9:04am Fredericks:

Paul Bearer
  9:04am Thwacko:

I used to have a Kelvinator stove.

I didnt have a local horror host, but my favorite as a kid was Commander USA.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:04am Webhamster Henry:

We had Svengoolie on Channel 30.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:05am Rich in Washington:

Portland OR had Uncle Vic, of Sinister Cinema. Like SCTV's Count Floyd, Vic was also a TV news man by day.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:05am melinda:

Iowa City is a great town, I'm going back in a few weeks to visit.
Avatar 9:05am randyfrommichigan:

Hello from the other side
  9:06am pellegrino.steve:

this is like the sister piece to waits. shore leave.
  9:06am Rachel Bo Bachel:

Going to see the Leonard Cohen show at the Jewish Museum today!
Avatar 9:06am randyfrommichigan:

this is one of my fave Leonard Cohen songs. Very cool.
  9:06am John from Florham park:

@-Ken did zacherly work for WNEWFM for a little while
  9:07am John from Florham park:

@RBB so jealous
  9:07am prudy:

good morning all...looking forward to the interview.
Avatar 9:08am Snoochienucci:

@rachel ive been wanting to hit that. I think its over after this weekend... Let me know what you think!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am -Ken:

Manson interview coming up at 1030am today
Avatar 9:10am fleep:

Good morning to the cult-y and the unculted
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am cory:

fofo, i agree wholeheartedly
Avatar 9:11am Lixiviated Life:

I need to get me one of those republican goatees
Avatar 9:12am fleep:

the horror host in Boston was Feep (odd I'd remember that)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:12am Phillippe Bastille:

Good morning, all! Hey, can someone add Bob Ross hair to that Trump gif?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:13am Phillippe Bastille:

@webmaster henry Svengoolie is still around, on MeTv if you have a local affiliate.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:14am Rich in Washington:

Oh yeah!
Avatar 9:16am Lixiviated Life:

"Julie Andrews Leads Aryan Cult In Secluded Alpine Sanctum."
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:17am geoff mcq:

Good morning. Even though it's afternoon here. God, life is difficult.
Avatar 9:19am Jersey Cowboy:

Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:19am Michele with One "L":

Morning All! Excited for today's show Ken!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:20am Strandlund:

You gotta love Gilbert!!!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:21am Webhamster Henry:

@Phillipe He's pretty long-lived for a dead person! I have audio tapes i made of some of his routines from the early 70s.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:21am Phillippe Bastille:

Ahh, Gilbert! Never been the same since he got fired as the AFLAC duck
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:22am John from NP:

Gilbert's version of the Aristocrats is the best
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24am John from NP:

Michele with One "L" is here!!! Damn I miss Shut Up Weirdo.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:26am Phillippe Bastille:

@webhamster henry Just looked at wikipedia -- seems like there was one guy playing Svengoolie in 70-73 (Jerry Bishop), then another (Rich Koz) from 79-present.
Avatar 9:26am thormagma:

Hell yes all hail Eugene
  9:27am Chi Bill:

Another new (to me) excellent band Sunwatchers, thanks Ken!
  9:28am Ғory (:

Aw shoot! I've gotta go to work.

Wait..I....must... resist the cory part of me and stay here, skip work and let the lazily irresponsible Fofo part of me take over.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:32am cory:

ha! that's how we know it's fake. i don't work today!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:35am Webhamster Henry:

Gif on "Phew" by Boris Artzybasheff.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:36am Webhamster Henry:

Color version here:
Avatar 9:37am orpheusviking:

around northern ny it was Dr. E. Nickolas Witty and Epal for the local monster movie matinee. Great times
svengoolie still carries the torch well
  9:41am Ғory (:

Good catch, cory! Ғory totally tricked me into thinking he was a real deep fake!
  9:41am Ғory (:

The Mamas and The papas have another song?!
  9:43am Sam:

Good morning party people.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:44am Guido from Cologne:

OMG! I own this record! :-o
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 9:44am Nick S.:

Creepy! Follow this up with Danzig's Mama!
Avatar 9:44am Roberto:

Oh my, the song/artist and gif juxtaposition...
  9:45am Hopey Sockmonkey:

This song has awoken long buried memories. Weird.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45am Phillippe Bastille:

Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:46am steveo:

apparently ms. zavaroni also cut a japanese version of that
  9:48am Ғory (:

The only most terrifying thing about this Lena Zavaroni song (Ma! It's Making Eyes at me!!) is the time when she went through lobotomy to treat her depression.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:49am Blacktooth:

  9:49am ҒoҒo (:

Winger's Seventeen fits in this set as well.
Avatar 9:51am Diezel Tea:

Hey wackos and Kenny da giffer.
  9:51am ҒoҒo (:

"Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me (seventeen)"
  Swag For Life Member 9:51am Manana:

Was the scream made for the song or vice versa? Beautiful.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am Ike:

Has Andre Williams ever run for Senate in Alabama?
  9:53am Sam:

Whenever I bring home a new pine cone my old pet pine cones puff up like that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am Guido from Cologne:

... and Lena is on Stax Records! (which is why I bought it ... one Deutsche Mark or so)
  Swag For Life Member 9:56am Manana:

Pretty subtle theme there chief.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 9:57am melinda:

I like the pre-Manson selections
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00am Megaroni:

Ai macaroni!
  10:00am ҒoҒo (:

Yes. very funny song about going bald by the Italian Quartetto Cetra. I don't think bald people appreciate it though.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 10:00am Nick S.:
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 10:01am Nick S.:

Ask Manson!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:01am geoff mcq:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03am Guido from Cologne:

Aaaaaaah ...
Somewhere in the world, there's a little bit of luck
And I dream about it every moment
Somewhere, in the world, there's a bit of bliss
And I've been dreaming about this for a long, long time
If I knew where that is, I went into the world
Because I would like to be so happy from the heart
Somewhere, in the world, my way to heaven begins
Somewhere, somehow, someday
  10:03am Sam:

The movie about the Comedian Harmonists is pretty awesome
  10:03am ҒoҒo (:

HAHAHAAI!!! What a funny German song!! Oh, boy! What a pleasure to be one of the few privileged people being able to understand German lyrics because, I don't think I have ever mentioned this before, but I did a German introductory course in 1998! HAHAHAA!! So funny!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:03am Guido from Cologne:

Aaaaaaah ...
I'm so yearning
I dream so often
Soon happiness will be close to me
I'm so hungry
I was hoping
The hour will be here soon
I was waiting for days and nights
I never give up hope
Avatar 10:04am Mailman Tom:

Beautifully sung!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05am Guido from Cologne:

"Your kiss from yesterday night, my darling"
Avatar 10:06am jdaAndAnoukFromKöln:

götz hahahhaahha he does a jazz show o german radio every saturday with really old stuff…
  10:06am Sam:

Glad to see the station is meeting its 15% German content requirement.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06am Goyim in the AM:

Ken, I can unreservedly recommend Helge Schneider's new single, "partypeople". His new album of the same name also contains his tribute to Sun Ra, which must be heard to be believed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06am Guido from Cologne:

Original by EVELYN KÜNNEKE (1949)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07am хtina:

I'm stuck on "Crapa Pelada" earlier, wasn't it used in a Looney Tunes cartoon? Ahhh does anybody know?
Avatar 10:07am northguineahills:

@fofo: I only understand duetsche in written form ( I barely understand spoken English)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08am Guido from Cologne:

"to Ashes, to Dust"
  10:08am Donald Frank Campbell:

Ashes to Ashes!!!! Best TV song ever. See "BABYLON BERLIN" & die
Avatar 10:10am Lixiviated Life:

Babylon Berlin was a great NETFLIX binge
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10am -Ken:

Crapa Pelada was used in an episode of "Breaking Bad."
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:11am melinda:

I learned a lot about Manson in Hollywood from a multi-part series on the podcast You Must Remember This.
  10:11am Sam:

God help you if you want to dry your laundry in Germany. Mine was going for three hours and was still wet. Finally I had to hang it up all over my hotel room, including on the lamps, and almost started a fire.
  10:12am ҒoҒo (:


Good for both of us! I can also understand written German. In fact, Id did my dissertation on the German Alphabet and Pronunciation (From A to ß).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am хtina:

Thanks Ken, never did see that one. My pop culture knowledge is only good for 50 year old cartoons.
Avatar 10:12am northguineahills:

tru dat, Lix. I didn't even need the subtitles the last few episodes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am хtina:

@melinda that podcast is incredible!
  10:13am Sam:

You can do a dissertation on the alphabet?
Avatar 10:13am Lixiviated Life:

I liked MINDHUNTER's take on Manson. He was a loser that just happened to land in a place and time where his BS would be effective.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 10:13am coneygate:

Found ‘Chaos’ overreaching...
Looking forward to interview
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:14am Webhamster Henry:

I learned my German from Brecht/Weill shows and Grimm's Fairy Tales.
  10:14am ҒoҒo (:


You have no idea how long it took me to type all those weird characters...and umlauts!
  10:15am Sam:

I'm going to do a PhD in alphabet theory. I have a crazy scheme to put all the vowels together at the beginning and get them out of the way, and then do the consonants in order of gutturalness.
Avatar 10:16am northguineahills:

@fofo:I've been studying Nordic/Germanic/Old English alphabets/pronunciation/etymology the last few years I do that for all cultures, but Germanic/Romance languages come to me easier due to being born a monolingual 'murican.....
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:16am melinda:

@xtina I didn't get much further than the Manson series but I appreciated the depth of topic coverage.
Avatar 10:17am βrian:

βoo there, listeners.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:17am Webhamster Henry:

This set harks back to Ken's "Unintelligible at Any Speed" premium.
  10:18am Sam:

When Kermit comes
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18am cory:

this dude looks like Andy Dick
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19am хtina:

@melinda You should listen to the Bela Lugosi / Boris Karloff episodes. Esp if you're into monsters and stuff.
  10:19am ҒoҒo (:

Very impressive, northguineahills! Can you do Elvish? Or DOTHRAKI?
  10:20am -> Ming the Merciless <-:

AAAH! HELGE SCHNEIDER on Us-Radio?! Great! Greetings from Germany

(Hope you can understand the words - it's amazing!)
Avatar 10:21am northguineahills:

@Fofo: I'm not an ethnolinguist like Tolkein or Martin, albeit, I have my geek streaks....
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:22am melinda:

@xtina actually I did catch some of that, it was good. I think my attention wandered during some of them because I was listening before bedtime.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:22am Webhamster Henry:

@NGH "Wynn" is a much prettier letter than "W", but it looks a lot like a p. Why we didn't keep eth and thorn I'll never know. Damn Normans.
  10:23am ҒoҒo (:

JUUUU &&&&&&&&&&&&& GGGGG..................................... JEEEEEEEEE!!
Avatar 10:25am Diezel Tea:

Avatar 10:26am βrian:

It was a mouse's favor to a lion that dispensed with the thorn.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26am хtina:

@melinda they are information dense I give you that. Like listening to fudge before bed XD
  10:27am Hi from Holland:

Aloha! Obligatory Yay for Pig Blood!
Avatar 10:28am northguineahills:

@HenrY: I've always been particularly trying to revive the letter, thorn "Þ, so people could properly pronounce ye (thee).By the time the Gutenberg press came to being, German had rid itself of the letter, so Britain and Scadanavia (minus the Faroe Islands and Iceland) ditched it for "Y", since it was the most similar, after two centuries, everyone thought words formerly spelled w/ a thorn, were pronounced like a "Y".
  10:28am Hi from Holland:

yeah Big Blood sounds better...
  10:28am The Mole:

you are sleeping
you do not want to believe
  10:29am Dave from Brooklyn:

STAYSH! Sometimes I feel like a 15 year old,but it's not worth goin to jail.
  10:30am Dave from Brooklyn:

Welcome Greta Thunberg.NEW GREEN DEAL
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:31am steveo:

@ngh fascinating re ye
Avatar 10:32am βrian:

Hence, "Ye Olde [whatever]?
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:33am melinda:

Kokomo, eww
  10:33am prudy:

Joan Didion has written quite a bit about this period of time in southern Cal..illuminating to me...
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:34am Listener Howard and the Cats:

Thank you for doing this interview, Ken!! I'm halfway through O'Neill's book right now, cannot put it down!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:34am Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, pals. Will there be a WFMU billboard GIF today?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:36am Barney Grubbs:

@ngh in the last couple years, polymer chemists have started using Đ (D-stroke, but I think of it as eth) to represent the numerical value describing the width of a weight distribution.
Avatar 10:42am hansfarkas:

Remember that Manson was actually a really valuable member of the creative community at that time.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 10:44am Webhamster Henry:

@ngh: Yet another reason to move to Iceland.
  10:45am prudy:

to me this sounds like, "I'm not your kind of Nazi"
  10:46am Thelma Blitz:

Bernard Stollman said, late in his life, that Manson kept ESP-disk afloat.
  10:46am ҒoҒo (:

Great song. Never learn not to love a Manson song.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am Mike Sin:

This interview is fascinating so far because it is only recently that Bugliosi's theories for prosecution have been thoroughly analyzed. Understandably, of course, because he got said conviction and most folks wanted it over and done with in the '70s.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47am -Ken:

@hansfarkas I have to disagree with you on that, but Manson did have his champions, prior to the murders
  10:49am Rich on Appington:

I am SHOCKED that Mike Love didn't want to talk about someone other than Mike Love. Shocked!
  10:51am JakeGould:

If Manson hadn’t spurred a bunch of murders, he’d just be a homeless hippie and possibly a lesser Jandek
  10:51am sugarwolf:

@melinda and @xtina: I binged listened to that over the past few days. I feel like the overall theme was grown men really like sex with teenage girls.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52am -Ken:

The Mike Love story was: Mike Love was invvited over to Dennis Wilson's house for dinner with The Family. Mike Love arrived to find an orgy going on. He didnt want to take part, so he went into a bathroom to take a shower. When Mike Love came out of the shower, Manson and Susan Atkins (aka Sadie Mae Glutz) confronte3d him angrily and told him that he was NOT ALLOWED to leave the group.
  10:54am ignatatus666:

Is that not what they are singing?
  10:55am ignatatus666:

Spellcheck:( Prudy)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55am Goyim in the AM:

A friend of mine married Susan Atkins and stay married to her until her death. She was genuinely regretful about the whole thing, and often said "Charlie was a pimp, no more, no less."
Avatar 10:55am hansfarkas:

Did he not supply mind altering substances to well-regarded musicians? That's gotta count for something!
  10:58am frenchee:

this is so good! Well-placed station ID, Ken. (sorry Neil)
  10:58am prudy:

IG: don't know...
  11:00am Martinibomb:

Good morning Ken and fellow listeners.
  11:00am prudy:

I don't understand not being able to perceive that someone is a psychopath...
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:01am Matt Fiveash:

Ken, check out the New Surfsiders version of "Kokomo"- it's a Norton 45, pretty sure it's in the library. Features a couple of FMU on-air personalities but I won't ruin them by revealing their names here...
  11:01am JakeGould:

@GoyimintheAM: Donald Lee Laisure or James W. Whitehouse?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02am Goyim in the AM:

  11:04am ҒoҒo (:


I think it's pretty common to be surrounded by psychopaths and most of us aren't aware of it.
Avatar 11:05am Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...from the sublime to the insidious...
  11:05am JakeGould:

Lovely couple:
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:06am Goyim in the AM:

She's dying in that picture and Jim is a very good friend. Don't mock.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 11:06am coneygate:

Talk of the town??? Ken!
  11:07am ҒoҒo (:

  11:08am prudy:

fofo: psychopaths of Manson's variety? News to me...
  11:12am JakeGould:

Lots of psychopaths and sociopaths out there. Most are benign and just use their dysfunction in small stupid ways. Not all kill.
  11:13am ҒoҒo (:

But purdy, that' because CEO/surgeon/journalist/salesperson/policeofficer haven't had their songs ripped off by the Beach Boys.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:14am coelacanth∅:

many many people would do what manson did or worse if they thought they'd get away with it.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:15am Listener Howard and the Cats:

I read somewhere that Christopher Jones was also having a relationship Sharon Tate?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:15am coelacanth∅:

some people become politicians or cops so they can get away with it.
Avatar 11:15am northguineahills:

Thanks, Barney! ( I need to add to my lithographic knowledge)
  11:16am JakeGould:

Pretty much every mass shooter is a psychopaths or sociopaths. That kid who shot up Sandy Hook Elementary was very clearly a psychopath. But the system failed massively.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16am coelacanth∅:

oh FoFo -right. didn't see that.
  11:16am prudy:

that's why I said "of Manson's variety"...
Avatar 11:17am northguineahills:

@Henry:I popped the question in Reykjavik.
  11:17am Marc (the other painter):

Squeaky Fomme is now living in a rural area in central NY, with a convicted felon not far from the large correctional facility there in Marcy. Apparently the authorities have her on their radar.
Avatar 11:19am Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

What's remarkable is how Manson gaslighted so many
- & got others to kill for him.
...But then - that's what the government does all the time who do I sound like mahhhhn...
  11:20am prudy:

Rev Rabbit: that's what I was getting at...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21am tim from champaign:

Non-sequitur - I recently put 2 and 2 together with Black Flag calling their tours 'Creepy Crawls'.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21am Granny Spicy Tuna (they/them):

Whenever i see a "No Parking Tow Away Zone" sign with the symbol of a tow truck on it, all i see are the eyes of Manson. Take a look and tell me if YOU don't.
  11:21am Marc (the other painter):

To this day I can't see a picture of Sharon Tate without feeling horrified!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:22am Marcel M:

Hi Ken. Good show.
Avatar 11:23am Carmichael:

Good morning, Kenneth. Looks like I have reached the last page of the internet. Or the first.
Avatar 11:23am Creature Boy:

I came in from the wilderness a creature boy deformed. Come in she said I'll give you shelter from the storm
  11:23am prudy:

yes, armies enlist people all the time and get them to kill others they have no connection to. You could call that mass psychopathy.
  11:25am JakeGould:

@prudy: Not everyone in the military is a psychopath. Army troops are just tons of people and some have no choice from an economic standpoint. But elite forces that sign up specifically to be a Marine or a Navy SEAL? Yup.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27am coelacanth∅:

many cops as well. when a cop shoots someone in the back as he's running away, or when they gang up, as they do every hour of every day, to kick the shit out of someone who's already lying helpless on the ground... same mentality.
Avatar 11:28am Creature Boy:

Suzy & Jeffrey by Blondie has some cool Manson references
  11:28am Sam:

I don't think you had to be a psycho in Britain in the 40's to fight the Nazis - you just didn't want your house to be bombed and your grandma to be shot. But to kill children in Vietnam to stop communism from spreading, yeah, that's pretty psycho.
  11:28am prudy:

the CIA is basically the government's corp of psychopaths...
  11:29am prudy:

J Gould: yes I'm aware of your brother was in the army.
  11:29am Sam:

There wasn't any way you could get this interview read in Obama's voice?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:31am coelacanth∅:

prudy @11.28, so then we elect them to presidency
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:32am BennettCap:

Great interview, Ken!
  11:32am prudy:

don't think Trump is clever enough to be in the CIA...but i agree with your point.
  11:33am JakeGould:

@Prudy: Most veterans of wars—such as what Sam mentions with World War II and Britain—don’t glorify war when they got back to civilian life. Most just moved on and many suffered from PTSD which is the normal reaction to being immersed in violence like that.

When I see a veteran who is homeless and offed up I see someone who deserves pity and sympathy. They did what they had to do because—in many cases—they had no choice. Now they are spcial detritus.
  11:34am prudy:

this CIA intersection with the Manson family is pretty interesting...
  11:34am prudy:

J Gould: agreed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:35am coelacanth∅:

Sam absolutely true, but not true (as a generalization) in vietnam. probably the majority of vietnam soldiers were afraid to not do what they were told. then there was the social & family pressure.
...i would've been stronger and protested and probably go to prison; or maybe flee the country. but most people (though not nearly as much as now) are basically compliant puppets.
Avatar 11:36am Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Some accuse people like Leary with being complicit with the CIA.
Now this is interesting - because I always maintained that Manson was not the Hippies' - but older - & a product instead of the Establishment & the Institutions where he'd been incarcerated most of his life...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:36am coelacanth∅:

prudy, no not the clown trump; but bush and others before him.
  11:36am JakeGould:

In good news, Hong Kong protestors got that extradition order to be withdrawn!

Free-state versus pyscho-state.
  11:37am JakeGould:

@coelacanth∅: Dick Cheney is a pyscho.
Avatar 11:37am Bic Lighter:

Mondo Manson
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:37am coelacanth∅:

oh, and what Jake said (@11.33)
  11:37am prudy:

right Coel..
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 11:37am coneygate:

Charlie and George Hodel we’re lovers..
....stay tuned to netflix
  11:37am Marc (the other painter):

@ Granny Spicy Tuna, OMG, just Googled the no parking sign with the back half of both tow truck and car. Remarkable similarity, SO weird, I'll never be able to unsee it now!
Avatar 11:37am jdaAndAnoukFromKöln:

nice interview… thx. off for today…
  11:38am prudy:

Cheney is the uberpsychopath...
Avatar 11:38am northguineahills:

Good news, Jake!
Avatar 11:39am Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Charlie as Cold War Manchurian Candidate....
The shadow where people between cultures fall...
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:39am Webhamster Henry:

A little excerpt from the Manson Family Opera by John Moran might be nice today.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39am tim from champaign:

"Just blow your soul, man!"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am Rich in Washington:

Fascinating interview, Ken!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am Dominick:

at last!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:40am Matt Fiveash:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am Rich in Washington:

Getting The Fear by Poison Idea, on Feel The Darkness is a great Manson related song.
  11:40am sugarwolf:

The treatment Kokomo deserves!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41am coelacanth∅:

shit i have to get back to work!
great interview Ken Thanks! and Thank you Tom!
  11:41am prudy:

thanks Ken for doing the interview...gotta find the book.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:41am Brett From Ottawa:

Great Interview. Thanks Ken
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42am dale:

this has some between song banter and is pretty good fidelity on the tunes.
  11:42am Marc (the other painter):

@ JakeGould, Indeed, Cheney and Rumsfeld, psycho war criminals.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:43am Strandlund:

Loved it, Ken!! Thanks!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:43am Webhamster Henry:

Very thorough and well researched, Ken!
Avatar 11:44am Creature Boy:

There's a new sun rising up angry in the sky.
  11:45am Sam:

It's his party and he'll cry if he wants to
Avatar 11:45am Hubig Pie:

Richard Pryor spiked the water supply with acid
  11:45am ҒoҒo (:

Great interview! Never heard of this Charles Manson guy before. He seems like a pretty good songwriter.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46am tim from champaign:

Birdy num nums gif!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:47am melinda:

Thanks for the interview Ken!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48am tim from champaign:

Great interview, Ken. I'm going to read the book for sure. I usually don't get skittish about subject matter but the murders are still really damn scary to me.
  11:49am Marc (the other painter):

Great interview/show Ken!
  11:50am Sam:

So did the CIA and the Rolling Stones kill the real Paul McCartney in 1965?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50am Rich in Washington:

I actually want to read this book. I sort of burned out on Manson books after too many silly, overly-sensationalized (as if THAT'S possible!) poorly researched ones.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:50am -Ken:

Thanks everybody!
  11:51am ҒoҒo (:

Wait a minute, Mr Ken! There are 9 minutes to go!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am dale:

when i googled (sorry mark hurst) charle's name other topics come up and one was what was his net worth. he had assets of $400 thousand when he died - i would have thought it would have been zero.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:52am Phillippe Bastille:

Thanks Ken. Take the rest of the day off.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 11:53am (Murakami Whywolf))):

Ken: your assessment of Tom O'Neill: do you think him as sceptical of his newer hypotheses as he is of those of older? Not being so is a common malady of those with alternative explanations for things, e.g. those who rejected childhood religion but then were utterly credulous of gurus or of comissars. Thanks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53am Rich in Washington:

The last one I really liked was Taming the Beast, by Dery Matera, based on interviews with Ed Mann, who was for all practical purposes Manson's psychological worker while in prison. It sort of deflates some of the mythology regarding Chuck's woo-woo mind control powers
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53am Rich in Washington:

Ed George. Not Ed Mann. My bad.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:53am -Ken:

Another really great Manson book is The Family by Ed Sanders (of The Fugs), which is outstanding in spite of all the hippie lingo he sprinkles in throughout
Avatar 11:54am βrian:

Is that Anna Karina with Peter Sellers, there?
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 Swag For Life Member 11:54am melinda:

I haven't read any Manson books, this seems to be a good place to start.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54am dale:

maybe you and andy can do an in-depth show about joey heatherton tonight.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:54am Rich in Washington:

Yes. The Family is the best in my opinion, and not just because it's written by a Fug.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55am Rich in Washington:

I like that Sanders peppers the book with a textual theremin sound every time something spooky comes up. He's a poet, after all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55am -Ken:

@Murakami - I dont quite get your question, but what O'Neill does in the book is shred the official history of the murder motive. He never does put forward a definitive alt thesis, in the book at least.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am Rich in Washington:

I'm definitely going back to listen to that interview again. That was really engrossing. AND read the book. THanks, Ken!
Avatar 11:57am Carmichael:

Ed Sanders of the CIA, Kenneth.
Avatar 11:57am northguineahills:

Thanks ken, t'was an insightful show. Good tidings...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am Rich in Washington:

@Carmichael: CIA Man?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am cory:

thanks ken
  11:59am ҒoҒo (:

Thanks, Ken, Tom people! Great show, interview, and other Kokomos. Till next episode, people! Take care, loosen up and...BE HAPPY!!!
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 11:59am (((Murakami Whywolf):

Most soldiers are not psychopaths. Psychopathy like all mental illness, is an exaggeration of traits that have proven useful prehistorically—in this case the ability to kill others not in the kin-group without mercy, which evidence from other primates indicates is part of the basic primate model.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59am -Ken:

Bye everybody, thanks for all your non-Trump comments!
  11:59am Ғory @ work (:

  12:01pm Ғory @ work (:

that typo there. that was the FoFo part of me.
Avatar Ken's Marathon 2024 12:01pm (Murakami Whywolf))):

Fair enough; I'm just tired of the people who never examined their alternative explanations critically.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:53pm listener jeff:

Great interview Ken. In October 1969, I went to Las Angeles with my Grandmother to visit her sister. I was ten.I do recall the fear in the city as this was still fresh. Apparently, the aunt I visited was a seamstress that worked occasionally at the Spahn movie ranch. I can confirm the dates because on the plane ride home, Led Zepplin was about 4 rows ahead of us riding coach traveling to the only show they played in Kansas City. I stood next to them at the baggage claim. My grandmother was afraid of them because of the long hair.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:47pm хtina:

For whatever it's worth... The Looney Tunes connection is true. In 1946, the short 'Book Revue' was released, directed by Bob Clampett. It features many musical and literary references, as you might imagine. Ever topical, there is one small bit where Daffy parodies the popular song, in an attempt to warn Little Red Riding Hood who is headed into the jaws of the wolf. It isn't explicitly mentioned in the Wiki articles for 'Book Revue', OR for Quartetto Cetra but if you listen...Crapa Pelada is clearly the inspiration. Thank you for digging this out of my memory banks. Book Revue is one of my Clampett favorites! Here's a link for a clip from the cartoon where the song is referenced at 0:45.


P. S. Oddly enough, this version of zoot suit Daffy has once again become relevant as an internet meme due to his resemblence to a character in a popular anime.
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