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DIY music for the spirit; bummer jams for happy people; terrestrial music for space travelers; punchy, post-punk jitters, synth drones for the mindful; fuzz-drenched, basement rock to sooth the soul...

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments New Approx. start time
Flipper  Shed No Tears   Favoriting Generic Flipper  Subterranean Records  1982    last one for a bit...Shed No Tears    0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Love  Live and Let Live   Favoriting Forever Changes            0:03:47 (Pop-up)
Grateful Dead  Cream Puff War   Favoriting Grateful Dead        60s punk    0:09:16 (Pop-up)
MC5  Skunk (Sonicly Speaking)   Favoriting High Time            0:11:33 (Pop-up)
The Outsiders  Doctor   Favoriting CQ            0:16:42 (Pop-up)
The Attack  Mr. Pinnodmy's Dilemma   Favoriting             0:21:17 (Pop-up)
J. K. & CO.  O.D.   Favoriting Suddenly One Summer            0:25:40 (Pop-up)
The Dukes of Stratosphear  My Love Explodes   Favoriting   Virgin  1985  7"      0:28:42 (Pop-up)
Tyrnaround  Francis   Favoriting Colour Your Mind  Guerssen  1986/2019    Reissue of 80s Aussie neo- psych band comes out Sept 19th!    0:32:10 (Pop-up)
David Bowie  See Emily Play   Favoriting Pin Ups        best covers LP???    0:35:18 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Houston Person 

Sissy Strut   Favoriting

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Weirdos  Life of Crime   Favoriting         going out to Nate K    0:43:32 (Pop-up)
The Fall  C.R.E.E.P.   Favoriting   Beggars Banquet  1984  7"      0:45:42 (Pop-up)
Volt  Couples   Favoriting   In The Red  2002/2007        0:48:10 (Pop-up)
Band Apart  Eve Ryonne   Favoriting Band Apart  Crammed Discs  1983        0:53:34 (Pop-up)
Klaus Dinger + Rheinita Bella Düsseldorf  America   Favoriting Néondian (Klausi Scheißt Auf Hollywood)  Teldec  1985        0:57:51 (Pop-up)
Charles De Goal  Dr. Pretorius   Favoriting Double Face  New Rose  1986        1:03:20 (Pop-up)
The Bloods  Button Up   Favoriting   Exit International  1982  7"      1:07:46 (Pop-up)
The Homosexuals  You're Not Moving the Way You're Supposed To (part 2)   Favoriting Astral Glamour            1:10:43 (Pop-up)
Poor Girls  Like Animal   Favoriting Poor Girls  Self Released  1985        1:13:44 (Pop-up)
Bill Direen  Love In the Retail Trade   Favoriting A Memory Of Others  Sophomore Lounge  2019    new 2LP set to accompany Bill Direen documentary  *   1:18:03 (Pop-up)
Cyclops  Alice   Favoriting Goat Volume  IMD   1994  CD  Criminally never on vinyl    1:22:08 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Cone Ten Reduction 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sun City Girls  Camel Mucus   Favoriting Live From Planet Boomerang  Majora  1992        1:31:52 (Pop-up)
La 1919  Progetti Di Grandi Città Con Terazze   Favoriting Ars srA    1987        1:39:34 (Pop-up)
Fly Pan Am  Distance Dealer   Favoriting C'est ca  Constellation  2019      *   1:43:27 (Pop-up)
The Exorzist III  EVK   Favoriting Studio Backing Tracks  Self Released  2019  MP3  bandcamp  *   1:47:33 (Pop-up)
Dashiell Hedayat  Eh Mushroom, Will You Mush My Room? (excerpt)   Favoriting Obsolete  Shandar  1971        1:52:18 (Pop-up)
Surplus 1980  Is That Better?   Favoriting Pigeon Obstacle Course  Geomancy  2019      *   1:57:19 (Pop-up)
Efrim Manuel Menuck & Kevin Doria  A Humming Void An Emptied Place   Favoriting are SING SINCK, SING  Constellation  2019      *   1:59:46 (Pop-up)
Sensations' Fix  Map   Favoriting Music is Painting in the Air (1974-1977)            2:04:39 (Pop-up)
Mikey Young  This...?   Favoriting You Feelin' Me?  Castle Face  2017/2019      *   2:10:05 (Pop-up)
Les Poules  En Criant Su'l Perron   Favoriting Les Contes De L'Amère Loi  Ambiances Magnétiques  1986        2:13:13 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Aaron Moore & Thierry Muller 

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Crack Cloud  Drab Measure   Favoriting Crack Cloud            2:24:26 (Pop-up)
Lunch Lady  Sweet One   Favoriting Angel  Upset The Rhythm  2019      *   2:29:04 (Pop-up)
Rael Rean  Adjust-A-Girl   Favoriting   Flying Bomb Records  2002  7"      2:31:09 (Pop-up)
The Dead Sound  Kill This Love   Favoriting Cuts  Crazysane  2019      *   2:33:37 (Pop-up)
Animals & Men  Don't Misbehave in the New Age   Favoriting   Danger Records  1979/2014        2:37:10 (Pop-up)
Tropical Fuck Storm  Paradise   Favoriting Braindrops  Joyful Noise  2019      *   2:39:33 (Pop-up)
Chris Forsyth & The Solar Motel Band  Solar Motel Part II   Favoriting Solar Live 11.15.13  Electric Ragtime  2014    Chris Forsyth residency every Friday in September at Nublu    2:45:38 (Pop-up)
Bana Haffar  Zone III   Favoriting Genera  Touch  2019      *   2:51:27 (Pop-up)
Philip Glass  Closing   Favoriting Glassworks    1982    and we're outta here - thanks for listening over the summer! Back soon enough...    2:56:12 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

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coelacanth∅:

FLIPPER!
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mariano:

Hey Tom, @coelacanth∅, everybody!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:01am
coelacanth∅:

hey Tom, mariano and future others
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:02am
Yvang:

I love Flipper!
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khd:

flipper lives
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:03am
Franco Twinkie:

Sex bomb, baby!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:03am
TomDash:

Hey folks...last DotDash Radio show for a bit, but Shed No Tears, we'll be back!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:04am
Franco Twinkie:

Rip it up Tom!
  12:04am
rw:

TomDash!! Tonight it's okay to crash.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:04am
Franco Twinkie:

Arthur!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:05am
coelacanth∅:

i would not have thought of this segue
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:05am
TomDash:

rw...I will crash, at 3:01! Thanks all for tuning in, been such a blast of a summer...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:05am
Yvang:

I love Love!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:08am
TomDash:

anyone like The Dead?
  12:08am
rw:

TD. Ouch.
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Franco Twinkie:

Er, yes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:09am
coelacanth∅:

funny you should mention...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:09am
coelacanth∅:

sorry rw!
...and from the BEST dead album!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:09am
Franco Twinkie:

Fuck yea!
  12:10am
Agent Peter:

who needs avant ghetto?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:11am
coelacanth∅:

because of the conversation about the dead yeasterday i listened to both anthem of the sun and aoxoxoa (sp?) this morning
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:12am
coelacanth∅:

(ahem, it was a yeasty day...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:13am
Nate K.:

Do your thing, my guy. Should you find room for a Weirdos jam, I wouldn't complain.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:13am
Franco Twinkie:

4 for 4, Tom.
  12:13am
rw:

Ha! It's okay. I'm trying. I like THAT stuff. And I don't hate, just don't get the fervor. Plus I may have been reading in an unintended implication.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:14am
TomDash:

Hey Nate K - thanks for listening live! Will see if I can scrounge up some Weirdos next set!
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mariano:

I've never been the biggest Dead fan, but a few years back, as an exercise in transcending my prejudices, I listened to the first three albums and found quite a few things in there I enjoyed. I know the bootlegs are supposed to be where it's at, but baby steps.
  12:15am
Dean:

I remember bumping into Nicky Beat an afternoon in downtown LA as he was delivering flowers. C. 1979.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:16am
Franco Twinkie:

Just another choice at the smorgy, RW. If you don't like the green beans, get the tapioca.
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coelacanth∅:

rw i don't get the fervor either. but i do like the grateful dead, with reservations
  12:17am
Dean:

Always loved the Dead, never listened to them. Now, almost fifty years later, I do both.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:19am
Franco Twinkie:

Shit. It's a full house tonight. All the know-it-all's are here!
  12:20am
Dean:

I know.
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coelacanth∅:

mariano i think the bootleg thing is based on the deadhead culture and the constant desire to relive the good times had at shows.
in my -ever so unpopular- opinion, their studio albums are generally better. no "deadhead" will say that.
...and yeah, the earlier the better. the pre-first album recordings from 1966 are incredible! (though they are live...so i contradict myself...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:22am
Franco Twinkie:

Dean, Nicky worked at this lunch counter around the corner from Chresti's house in Silverlake. He served me a sandwich. Nice guy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:23am
Nate K.:

Killing it!
  12:23am
Dean:

BTW, FT and chresti, yesterday I drove from LA to Berkeley non-stop without having to pull over for gasoline. Around 10:30am, I drove from downtown LA up 5 past...Griffith Park! Thought of chresti.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:23am
mariano:

Didn't know about the pre-album recordings, @coelacanth∅, thanks for the tip!
  12:24am
Agent Peter:

The shows and the albums two totally different things. The free form nature of each show had special appeal, especially if you were there. But even if you weren't there and had been to enough shows you could listen to it differently than assessing it in a vacuum. The live shows became too formulaic in the latter years, imho
  12:25am
Dean:

I'm a fan of bootlegs qua bootlegs. Even if the studio albums are better, the archival/documentary evidence presented by arguably illegal recordings entice me.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:25am
Franco Twinkie:

She wasn't there. We stayed inside all day. Tomorrow she starts her work week.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:27am
mariano:

I'm 50 now, and when I was young, dropping out for a few months or a year to follow the Dead was still an option. A couple of friends of mine did it for varying periods of time. I never saw them live, but I always liked the idea of that being an option.
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Scraps:

I really like Workingman’s Dead and American Beauty (yeah, yeah, I know), and some of the albums back & forth, when they are songs. I really don’t like jams, and therefore don’t like live Dead albums — and that is most of what you hear lately, ad nauseum. And the people who play them play them, well, a lot, so I get really tired of them, even though I mostly like them.
  12:29am
Dean:

Those who listen to Uncle Michael's Friday morning/afternoon show (depending on where you are) know that I attended every Dead show.
  12:30am
rw:

There's an artist in LA named Mark A. Rodriguez who's making GD tape racks as sculpture.
  12:30am
rw:

Dean, I'm still trying to figure out how that's possible.
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Yvang:

It's about to be 25 O'clock
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TomDash:

Ha - I knew spinning a Dead number would start a conversation. I'm a BIG fan - 60s, 70s live stuff, can't get enough. But we'll be talking about post-punk soon enough???
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coelacanth∅:

i have an album -legit album but without approval of the band, called vintage dead. tied with "san francisco's grateful dead" as my favorite dead albums. apparently there's a volume 2 of vintage dead but i've never seen it.
you can feel the fire, the raw energy, something that was all but gone within a few years. and the arrangements on songs that stayed in their repertoir (sp) so so SO much better than what they turned into.
(and Bob Weir's singing was actually bearable then - even okay!)
  12:32am
Dean:

rw: You miss school on occasion.

Speaking of LA artists, does anybody know David Amico? I know his sister and her husband pretty well.
  12:32am
Agent Peter:

plenty of slam dancing punks at mid-80's dead shows fwiw
  12:34am
rw:

I've met David. Talked with him a little many years ago. We taught at the same school for a while. Nice guy and a good artist too!
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Hubig Pie:

Saw the GD at Red Rocks amphitheater in Colo. late 70's, didn't get it. I do enjoy the americana vibe of Workingman's Dead
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coelacanth∅:

i've been to every David Bowie concert.
  12:36am
Dean:

That's great! I met him only once, maybe twice, at family events.
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diciassette:

lol I made it to the Glass Spider tour (ahoy, guys)
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mariano:

Oh man, I love this cover! See Emily Play has one of the most rockin' openings.
  12:37am
Dean:

Are you sure, coel? I seem to recall being at one c.1976, the midwest...you weren't there.
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coelacanth∅:

hey diciassette
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Scraps:

coelacanthØ, I’ve been to every Iggy Pop concert; maybe we’ve met
  12:38am
chresti@ Griffith Park:

There was a baby rattler on the way to the upper courts today. A co-worker texted me a photo
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coelacanth∅:

Dean i was there. i had to have been.
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anne:

i've now put my ikea bedframe together. it took 1.5 hrs. please hold your applause.
  12:39am
Dean:

I musta been distracted.
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coelacanth∅:

can i buy you a shot?
  12:39am
chresti@ Griffith Park:

Hi tomdash! Happy time off!
Goodnight !
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Hubig Pie:

Coel, but you're losing your edge
  12:39am
rw:

Way to go anne!!
  12:39am
Dean:

"baby rattler" means one of at least two things.
  12:40am
chresti@ bed:

Is where I’m going
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diciassette:

Brava! I put mine together 10 years ago and it still hasn't fallen on me
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Franco Twinkie:

Mariano, I'm 64. When I first saw them as a 16 year old, the culture was not yet a codified thing. As a matter of fact, no one said Dead Head-ever. But sooner than later what so many people rightfully can't get past i.e. the brainless culture, started manifesting itself. For me, there were to many other options to really give a shit. Oh yeah, the sound changed forever when Keith and Donna joined the band.
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mariano:

Good going, Anne! I'm useless with that kind of stuff.
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coelacanth∅:

chresti i will never not be watching carefully for rattlers again. i consider myself lucky to be alive.
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anne:

you guys are the best
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mariano:

@Franco Twinkie: oh man, it must've been really something to see them back then!
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Franco Twinkie:

It was indeed.
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Fox:

Hey doooooods.
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Scraps:

postpunk postpunk postpunk postpunk!
  12:44am
b wad:

Hi Tom, starting my morning run in Tel Aviv and grateful for the high-energy show!
  12:45am
chresti@ bed:

Coel-they usually get peop
  12:46am
chresti@ bed:

When they’re in the shade -(harder to see )
  12:46am
sufferwords:

Weirdos!!!!!
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coelacanth∅:

yeah PigPen checking out hurt, Constanten didn't help, Donna and Keith hurt, Micky hurt sometimes, Garcia got boring, doing the same noodly thing over and over...and over...Weir decided to try to do what Pig Pen did and always sucked at it, and he only got worse the more confident he got...
that said, i like them enough to have a 313 song. 34-hour spotify grateful dad playlist.
  12:47am
Dean:

One of my big mistakes: not heading out to El Monte or somewhere else in SGV in the late '70s/early '80s to hear The Fall when they seemingly randomly appeared.
  12:48am
Dean:

By the way, The Fall are not "post-" anything. They're punk, pure and simple. (Yes, they are pure and simple.)
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Nate K.:

Hat tip . . .
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coelacanth∅:

(i actually do not have a grateful DAD playlist...)
  12:50am
rw:

Dean, I think I was there! Was the venue called... dang, I can't remember. Something kind of hick.
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Franco Twinkie:

Dean, David Amico's stuff really appealed to me. When all the painterly painters started getting props in the early '80's Davids work struck me as some one who was brilliant colorist. Restraint for maximum effect.
  12:52am
sufferwords:

bummer ya gotta bail- yer show played swell on the west coast - but i get not only getting off at 3 but then having slow yourself down after - disrupting to say the least - hope ya get a amenable slot in the future- enjoyed the fuck outta yer show - peace
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coelacanth∅:

this show would be perfect during the day.
  12:54am
chresti@ bed:

IMG_1933.JPG
  12:54am
Dean:

rw: I recall it was a bar, which doesn't help much. Wanna kick myself.

FT: When I think of David, I think of Michael Hoenig's Departure from the Northern Wasteland, to which he made some sort of contribution...the cover? The studio?
  12:55am
chresti@ bed:

Don’t know if that works
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:56am
coelacanth∅:

that doesn't work!
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Franco Twinkie:

Dean, I was there. The show was at Oscars Corn Husker in Azuza. It was wildly appropriate - The Fall playing next to a gravel pit!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:57am
TomDash:

thanks so much sufferwords...will be back - got a fill-in Sept 23 @ 12-3PM and more fill-ins to come...
  12:57am
Dean:

That sounds right, Franco! BIG mistake on my part, and I kinda knew it even then.
  12:58am
rw:

The Cornhusker, or Earl's Roadhouse, something like that. Anyway, I remember not having a great time. They wouldn't let us sit at the tables if we weren't buying drinks (which we couldn't afford back then) and we couldn't lean against the walls or sit on the floor. Just had to stand on the dance floor and wait for the band, which was good, but I remember being so annoyed it kind of ruined it. I think we had to stand at least a couple hours waiting.
  12:58am
rw:

Franco, you were there too! Wild small world.
  1:00am
Dean:

Actually, Earl's Roadhouse sounds more like what I remember hearing (on the radio) at the time, but you know, this was forty years ago.
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Scraps:

whew, thunderstorm getting closer (Snohomish County, Washington).... may have to turn off my ipad. If so, sucks. TomDash, I will look for you in fill-ins.
  1:01am
rw:

I think FT got it right. Oscar's Corn Husker.
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TomDash:

thanks for all the support Scraps!
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diciassette:

This guy reminds me of that guy in Honeymoon Killers. Of course he's in a post-punk band and sings in French, but still.
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Franco Twinkie:

Yes! My Brother-in-laws band, The Silver Chalice opened for them. And my ex brother-in-law did the poster/flyer and was also the DJ. He played Summer Time Blues by Blue Cheer AND Omaha by Moby Grape as The Fall came on stage. Recently he told me he spent the entire time The Fall were playing to drunk to stand up underneath a table on stage next to Brix.
  1:13am
rw:

FT, Nice! I'm glad SOMEONE had a good time!! And even wilder smaller world!!
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Hubig Pie:

I think post punk was the best music era of all the music eras
  1:19am
rw:

Okay, a little past due but I'm cracking a beer in honor of DotDash Radio. Here's to you TD!!
  1:19am
rw:

Cracking a beer with my WFMU bottle opener no less!
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diciassette:

It's never too late to make bad decisions, eh. I am trying to figure out how to pour a Guinness and this may require several takes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:22am
TomDash:

Thanks much rw! Too tired for a beer right now to join ya, but I will be enjoying a lovely glass of whiskey when I get back home around 3:30!
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diciassette:

"Bill Direen documentary" I'm excited!
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Hubig Pie:

tho it could be age related, I was'nt around for the Lindy Hop
  1:22am
rw:

diciassette, I bet you get it figured out around the fourth pour.
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Scraps:

(Summertime Blues was originally by Eddie Cochrane.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:23am
diciassette:

Great it comes in a four-pack for some reason!
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Scraps:

I want to see a Bill Direen documentary too, if I can!
  1:24am
Agent Peter:

Tom - thanks for a great run this summer. Hope to hear you back on these airwaves soon.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:25am
TomDash:

Thanks Agent Peter!
  1:25am
rw:

Thanks for the radio this past semester or season or whatever you call it. Been super fun!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:27am
coelacanth∅:

don't forget, if you're in the u.s. and pouring a guinness you must create a 4-leaf clover on top of the head
it's tradition
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:28am
diciassette:

do I look like a dang barista or something
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coelacanth∅:

i and everyone i knew called what's called post-punk now punk. did anyone call anything "post punk" at the time? i never even heard that term until at least the mid-90s
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:32am
mariano:

I had this discussion online on another forum. I don't remember hearing the term post-punk till sometime in the 90s, but the person I was gabbing with said it was used back in the day. He was in the UK, so maybe the term was more prominent there?
  1:34am
rw:

coel, I remember using the term post-punk in the early '80s. And Emo was called Death Rock.
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Scraps:

I definitely heard postpunk used by the mid80s, used to describe more arty punks, like Wire, Magazine, and yes, The Fall.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:36am
coelacanth∅:

seems like a non-distinctive distinction to me
kind of like most sub-genres there are blurry lines if lines at all; and "punk" is certainly not a time in history, which means there's no reason punk couldn't have been made after the punk era, whenever that was...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:36am
coelacanth∅:

so wire, which was a punk band, turned into a post-punk band?
  1:36am
rw:

Yes! But post punk could not have existed before punk!
  1:36am
Tom in Los Angeles:

great set mr Dash!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:37am
TomDash:

coelacantho - I'm thinking post-punk started being used for in the mid 80s to differentiate bands like Killing Joke, Echo, Joy Division and the like, no? Before the noisy later 80s stuff like Big Black, Sonic Youth, etc I kinda use is as a real easy (read: lazy) term for any arty punk...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:38am
Franco Twinkie:

I think most of this post whatever sorting and categorizing is hilarious! I love when rock journalism uses academic tropes to give the subject some heft.
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Hubig Pie:

I like my beer cold, my tv loud and my punks arty.
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Scraps:

But sometimes now you hear it to describe goth, coldwave, even new wave and shoegaze, which is.... no.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:39am
coelacanth∅:

yeah joy division is the example a friend here used to differentiate when we had this same discussion a week ago. (with no conclusion)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 1:39am
TomDash:

thanks LA Thom!
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Scraps:

Yes, I think coelacanthØ, Pink Flag was punk, Chairs Missing was postpunk. It’s a real difference, to me
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TomDash:

ha! I mean LA "Tom" - doing too many things at once! ha
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Tom in Los Angeles:

;))
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rw:

Scraps, I'm with you on that one! Nice definition!
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Franco Twinkie:

Scraps, The first time I heard someone say Chill Wave, I knew the train had left the station without me.
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coelacanth∅:

supposedly...what was claimed at the time... punk was an attitude; which was how bands like the ramones were called punk - when their music was just basic rock n roll.
so if that attitude prevailed in joy division, echo, killing joke why wouldn't it be called "punk"? and why was television and talking heads - very "arty" bands - called punk?
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Scraps:

;-)
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Scraps:

(to Franco)
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Scraps:

Well, I don’t think Talking Heads were punk. ;-)
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coelacanth∅:

haha Franco your instinct warned you of an imminent trainwreck
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Hubig Pie:

Hey Scraps, I be in Oly , WA in 2 days to visit me mum. Guess I better bring the rain gear
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diciassette:

"___ wave! IT's a totally different head"
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diciassette:

Totally
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coelacanth∅:

and talking heads were called punk at the time (as was Elvis Costello, Wreckless Eric, Blondie etc) it was supposedly about the attitude, not the music.
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Scraps:

And Television was just rock, to me. The only reason they were described by punk was they came out in 1976-77. To me.... (shrug)
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rw:

Hmmm... As I remember it, punk was reactionary at first, then got codified into a particular segment of the reaction as some bands played with a more "punk" aesthetic and others more "new wave".
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coelacanth∅:

Scraps that's how it sounds to me too. i discovered television by buying a compilation and there was no mention of punk and i never considered it. i found out years later that they were considered punk.
...but again it was about their relatively irreverent attitude.
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Scraps:

Yeah, I know... I don’t accept the “attitude” if I’m trying to nail down music. Then I have to know something about the band other than their music.... I mean, mostly I don’t know them, but music I can listen to
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Tom in Los Angeles:

tv party tonight
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Scraps:

All right!
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coelacanth∅:

i agree Scraps. so let's create new terms that actually describe the music!
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diciassette:

Something happened, and I feel like it couldn't have happened at any other time. This is because the world was supposed to end. In middle school we being scared schnitz-less about the end of the world by our boomer teachers.
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mariano:

Back in the 90s I had a friend who insisted that the Ramones couldn't be punk because they had long hair.
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rw:

I remember when my kids were little my son had a pair of crab sunglasses. I described them as punk and it confused my daughter who said, those aren't punk. Punk is tough. Those are dorky. I told her in the beginning punk was dorky too!
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coelacanth∅:

haha
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Hubig Pie:

I discovered television in '63 when my parents sat me in front of it so I could be babysat by Fred Flinstone
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Franco Twinkie:

If your idea of a great rock band was Boston, The Taking Heads were just to peculiar to be anything else. It's funny how the concept punk threatened people. It's as if the very idea would make it impossible for them to ever enjoy music again. Silliness is what it was. Huffing and puffing by some really dumb kids.
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coelacanth∅:

i was in a punk band in the 80s and i refused to cut my hair because i wasn't about to conform!
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Scraps:

Man, so many genres in techno..... Little little differences! I gave up genres completely in about the nineties!
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coelacanth∅:

i wouldn't trust my kids to fred flintstone
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rw:

I think we're all on the same page.
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rw:

Time for another beer.
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coelacanth∅:

wait
i just heard a "chime".
- turn the page
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diciassette:

"This midnight I will turn into a beer, I will"
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Scraps:

mariano, I was a punk and I deliberately grew my hair out (early eighties), because I wasn’t to fit any costume of a punk! I said that too to (very few) punks that called me out.
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Franco Twinkie:

Yes RW. So much so, that I think I can safely take a break and have a shower without music as we know it devolving any further.
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coelacanth∅:

Franco, even Costello was pretty peculiar for the moment
...i mean, i remember how it affected pink floyd-lovin' me when i first heard it. it was rough at the edges, raw, snarly and sarcastic. not boston, not zeppelin, not even the 'stones.
not even Iggy -at that time.
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Hubig Pie:

Mr. DJ , tonights entertainment has been quite entertaining
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rw:

This won't make sense to anybody but I think I'm going to make it through September.
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coelacanth∅:

dip flash
dip flash
dip flash
...Tom what are we gonna talk about next?
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rw:

Is it dip flash or dead flesh?
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coelacanth∅:

i hope you make it through september; and toward the end of the month i'll start hoping you make it through october...
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Tom in Los Angeles:

long live the new flesh
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rw:

cc, I'll be fine. Just looking at the work schedule. September always sucks.
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coelacanth∅:

i always thought it was big flash but one of those lyric sites once told me it's dip flash.
they could've lied.
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Scraps:

love cronenberg
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ian:

omg so durrrty
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mariano:

@Scraps: this friend of mine was (and still is!) English, and I think over there the look was more important than here. The music scenes over there, at least some of them, seem to have a real tribal element: mods, rockers, etc, and fashion was a big part of it, much like with hip hop in the US. Though to be fair, in the 80s I was a glaring example of the little wannabe punk, had to have the whole uniform. At least for a couple of years.
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mariano:

PS: Ditto on Videodrome and Cronenberg in general.
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rw:

I've always thought dead flesh because of a car crash, but as I think about it, it's more about the lines in the road. There's never really a crash is there?
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Tom in Los Angeles:

;) @Scraps
@mariano
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coelacanth∅:

hmm. yeah i think it leaves off in the midst of dealing with the possibility of crashing
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rw:

Need to reprogram my brain a little... dip flash, dip flash, dip flash, dip flash...
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The Count of Al Dente:

Great playlist!
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ignatatus666:

That playlist was excellent
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Hubig Pie:

mariano, don't even get me started on those g'dam teddy boys
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coelacanth∅:

mariano i was into the stiffs label stuff right from the get go, and not into dippity do and black leather and all that; so i just had to go to the thrift store and get some old suit jackets and skinny ties. at one point i did peachfuzz the sides of my head. (the rest of my hair was still long though)
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Tom in Los Angeles:

just wow
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DouglasInDallas:

Awesome set for my drunky walk home!
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TomDash:

I haven't been able to follow along too much, that's what the archive is for - but just wanna say you folks all rule! Thanks for tuning in these few months...feel free to drop me an email through here and I can keep ya posted on fill-ins and future shows...
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Francis:

I hope next Crack Cloud album will be as excellent as their first two eps . Great playlist !
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Franco Twinkie:

Coel, The comp album Hits Greatest Stiffs? The inner sleeve? They show pictures of all these albums that aren't on stiff prefaced with "Some records on other labels you might enjoy"Who the fuck does that!?! Not a great business plan,but if you love music...
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mariano:

Yeah, I loved the old suit jackets! Started going bald at 24/25, so (thankfully) I never got a chance to delve into the teddy boy look, Hubig, I'd exhausted all my hairstyle options by then.
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rw:

tom, you actually read this stuff in archive? I need to be a little more careful about what I type.
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coelacanth∅:

i emailed you earlier, probably while you were busy preparing your program.
funny you mention Creamo Coyl. i did as well. i made an attempt at closure of my previous rant.
please excuse me!
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coelacanth∅:

Franco, shit. i forgot about that! it gave me a good impression anyway. like, "we're in it for the love of it"
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TomDash:

yep- saw your email coel...no worries at all...will stay in touch!
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Franco Twinkie:

Exactly.
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diciassette:

exponential hearts and stars for Animals & Men!
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coelacanth∅:

mariano i did load up one of the jackets with safety pins, and a friend and myself wore jackets and ties but no shirts to school once. got a lot of shit for it but as long as we kept them buttoned mostly up they couldn't do anything about it.
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Franco Twinkie:

I like this guitar sound.
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TomDash:

Funny - 3 months of doing this and its the first time I'm running out of stuff to play! HA!
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coelacanth∅:

(and i painted every button on one with the ethiopian flag. that was pretty silly)
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rw:

Probably getting into territory I shouldn't but I wish Creamo C. was on at a better time for me. I catch bits every once in a while in the car but miss his show at night when I could sit and listen for an extended period. I really like his show.
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mariano:

Nice one, @coela!
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rw:

Tom, you've got less than 20 minutes. We believe in you.
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diciassette:

getting Arab Strap vibes. I've had 3 guinnesseses tho
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coelacanth∅:

same here rw. i used to listen to him regularly when he was on at night.
i rarely ever heard Brian Turner either.
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coelacanth∅:

diciassette i actually thought it was Tricky at first. but yeah more arab strap than Tricky for sure
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rw:

I rarely heard Brian T either but felt good that there was interesting programming even when I couldn't listen. Same as I feel about C. Coyle now!
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Franco Twinkie:

I'm Fading, but I won't go to bed until this thing is put on the curb.
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rw:

With you FT. The bitter end...
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diciassette:

hang on!
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coelacanth∅:

i'm telling you now i'm gonna guard it so dogs don't pee on it
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mariano:

We're the night shift!
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diciassette:

ay
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coelacanth∅:

i didn't think i'd be up past 1 but now i'm totally wired
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coelacanth∅:

...my heart and i agree.
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Scraps:

coel, might as well listen to John Monroe!
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BH:

Being in Central Time (plus my sleep schedule) means almost all of the AM hour shows I hear are the 12am-3am ET timeslot slows. For some reason, 11pm-2am CT seems more manageable than 12-3.
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coelacanth∅:

i don't know John Monroe so i'd like to check it out but i need to try to sleep. i barely slept last night and i have to do things tomorrow (today)
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TomDash:

Alright wrapping things up folks, thanks again for all the comments and for digging the show! I have my first fill-in 9/23 @ 12-3PM for Joe Belock and then a couple Marty McSorley's in November...probably more in between (I Hope!)...
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mariano:

Same here, @BH, in Central too.
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diciassette:

It's always today or tomorrow, or something.
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The Count of Al Dente:

thanks for the great show.
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mariano:

Been a blast, Tom, thanks so much -- hope to see you back soon! Great chatting with everyone too!
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Franco Twinkie:

It is still yesterday here.
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Tom in Los Angeles:

first the the Ghetto one Jeff C
& now the big wave radio crash DJ TomDash://
hard times on the boulevard at the fun & only one
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coelacanth∅:

have trouble catching Belock too but at least i'll probably be here for Marty's shows
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rw:

Thanks TomDash! Catch you in fill-in mode!! Night all. Enjoy the remainder of the weekend!
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks and see ya soon!
g'night y'all, take care
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diciassette:

merci mille foissss see you space cowboy
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TomDash:

thanks folks!!!!!
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Franco Twinkie:

The lights are going up. We slouch toward the exit. Everybody go to bed.
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Scraps:

Oh man... see you, come again
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Kasey00:

Scraps, i like rock and rock and roll 9apps.ooo... it's more the abundant very commercial radio-friendly pop that bothers me.
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john:

great. see you soon!
regards
https://technologywell.com/
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spiceagent11:

he Cornhusker, or Earl's Roadhouse, something like that. Anyway, I remember not having a great time. They wouldn't let us sit at the tables if we weren't buying drinks (which we couldn't afford back then) and we couldn't lean against the walls or sit on the floor. Just had to stand on the dance floor and wait for the band, which was good, but I remember being so annoyed it kind of ruined it.
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spiceagent11:

Scraps, i like rock and rock and roll vidmateapp.win... it's more the abundant very commercial radio-friendly pop that bothers me.
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