Favoriting Techtonic with Mark Hurst: Playlist from August 12, 2019 Favoriting

Mark Hurst's avatar View Mark Hurst's profile Favoriting

Conversations with creators and thinkers who are charting the way forward in a tech-saturated society. In our shift to a digital future, we need alternatives to Big Tech. Homepage: techtonic.fm

Monday 6 - 7pm (EDT) | On WFMU | 91.1, 90.1, 91.9 FM & wfmu.org
WFMU LIVE Audio Streams (Get help):   Pop-up  |  128k AAC  |  128k MP3  |  32k MP3

iTunes Feed Also available as an MP3 podcast. More info at our Podcast Central page.

<-- Previous playlist | Back to Techtonic with Mark Hurst playlists | Next playlist -->


Upcoming events:

Mon. Jun 17th, 6pm - 7pm: Mark answers listener questions (More info...)

Favoriting August 12, 2019: Amy Webb, author of "The Big Nine," talks about AI and our future

Listen to this show: Pop-up listen Pop-up player!

This week: Amy Webb, author, "The Big Nine: How the Tech Titans and Their Thinking Machines Could Warp Humanity"



This week: Amy Webb and a conversation about artificial intelligence.

Pointers:

The Big Nine: How the Tech Titans and Their Thinking Machines Could Warp Humanity, by Amy Webb

• On Twitter: @amywebb

The Great Hack, the excellent new documentary about Facebook and Cambridge Analytica, now on Netflix.

With $1 Billion From Microsoft, an A.I. Lab Wants to Mimic the Brain (NYT, July 22). Here's what it says about Sam Altman, previously of Y combinator: "at 34, he is the chief executive of OpenAI, the artificial intelligence lab he helped create in 2015 with Elon Musk, the billionaire chief executive of the electric carmaker Tesla... Since then, Mr. Altman has remade OpenAI, founded as a nonprofit, into a for-profit company so it could more aggressively pursue financing. Now he has landed a marquee investor," Microsoft...

DeepMind's Latest A.I. Health Breakthrough Has Some Problems, by Julia Powles (August 6): "Streams, then, seems typical of DeepMind's way of working. It offers few overall gains in clinical outcomes, creates anxiety and additional workload for physicians, and was built on the back of deeply controversial access to patients' data."

A.I. Ethics Boards Should Be Based on Human Rights, by Evan Selinger (June 20)

Small Businesses Aren't Rushing Into AI (WSJ, June 9): "Microsoft, Google are coming up with machine-learning tools for small and medium-size firms."

- - -

Check out techtonic.fm for recent Techtonic interviews and Little Slice of Tech Pie segments.

PODCAST: Subscribe to the Techtonic podcast

Artist Track Album Label Images Approx. start time
  Amy Webb discusses her book "The Big Nine" and how AI will help determine the future of the world.
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting Machinarium Soundtrack  No label 
Favoriting
 
  Mark's intro      
Favoriting
0:00:05 (Pop-up)
  Interview with Amy Webb      
Favoriting
0:06:58 (Pop-up)
Shooby Taylor  The Theme   Favoriting Shooby Taylor, The Human Horn  Shooby Taylor Prods. 
Favoriting
0:52:14 (Pop-up)


<-- Previous playlist | Back to Techtonic with Mark Hurst playlists | Next playlist -->

RSS feeds for Techtonic with Mark Hurst: RSSPlaylists feed | RSSMP3 archives feed

| E-mail Mark Hurst | Other WFMU Playlists | All artists played by Techtonic with Mark Hurst |

Listen on the Internet | Contact Us | Music & Programs | WFMU Home Page | Support Us | FAQ

Live Audio Streams for WFMU: Pop-up | 128k AAC | 128k MP3 | 32k MP3    (More streams: [+])


Listener comments!

  6:00pm
melinda:

Hi everyone!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:00pm
ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Genuine Techelligentsia!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi melinda, ultra!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:01pm
listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
Avatar 6:01pm
geezerette:

Approaching with dread. Howdy, Mark and pals!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Webhamster Henry:

Hello friends!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
chresti:

Hi Techtonica!
  6:02pm
sufferwords:

do it
  6:02pm
melinda:

That was a great exit for Scott before going on vacation, with the joyous Country Roads instrumental.
Avatar 6:02pm
βrian:

First time back in months. 5 o'clock is a difficult time.

I'm already scared ...
Avatar 6:02pm
northguineahills:

I could use a tonic & tech, hopefully it will be the perfect cocktail right now....
  6:02pm
Dave Miss:

Happy August tech-ies
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Bas NL:

Mark! Human Intelligence-ists!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
chresti:

@geez-right?
  6:02pm
melinda:

AI makes me uncomfortable.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm
Phillippe Bastille:

Hi Mark and gang
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
chris:

hey, Mark and folks. oh boy, AI time... let's do this.
Avatar 6:03pm
TDK60:

Hey there, been elsewhere a lot recently.
Avatar 6:03pm
geezerette:

Chresti, ha! yep!
  6:04pm
sufferwords:

The Great Hack was scariest movie I ever saw
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Webhamster Henry:

I wrote a rules engine may years ago - that was If-Then-Else, for sure!
Avatar 6:05pm
βrian:

The Artificial Intelligentsia serves any master.
Avatar 6:06pm
geezerette:

Chresti, every artist I know has been bugging me for years to join fb and I just freeze at the threshold every time.
Avatar 6:07pm
northguineahills:

Anyone else remembers the Warp Recs Artifuicial Intelligence comps from the early-mid 90s?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
chris:

i thought The Great Hack was well put together; eye and mind opening. i recommend it to anyone. especially, if they're still using fb.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Webhamster Henry:

My copy of GPT-2 says: In deciding which of the 9 technological stars to project, it is important to realize, at this point in history, that each one is a reaction unto human beings' response to the alien threat. The matrix is constantly monitoring us to see if we respond to the world, but past history reveals that when humanity sees only six artificial energetic systems discovering the truth, its reaction is militantly disingenuous. Technology is gaining understanding, and awareness of its meaning is rising, but it is still a bit scary.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for logging in - Webhamster Henry, is GPT-2 the OpenAI language definition?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Franco Twinkie:

So, last Friday we plugged the phone into rental car and used google maps for the first time to get us to some vague place in West Oakland. It worked! However, it became a unrelenting bossy shrew all the way thru the Altamont Pass. I would never by choice listen to that horrid voice again.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Mark Hurst:

And welcome back after awhile, @Brian and @TDK60!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Webhamster Henry:

GPT-2 , with a somewhat constrained NLP model, is an openai project. github.com...
You can feed it a prompting paragraph and it will bounce around in its multidimensional vocabulary matrix and create sentences that somewhat hang together. It can even answer questions if it can match your question closely enough.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
chresti:

I found that not being able to argue with the G map voice very unsatisfying
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Webhamster Henry:

@Franco Twinkie: RETURN TO THE ROUTE!
  6:18pm
JakeGould:

Has anyone asked Jeeves anything lately?
Avatar 6:19pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

John C. Lilly - 'Metaprogramming in the Human Biocomputer'...
What does your guest think of the progress of Quantum Computing? & it's implications on say Encryption , AI - & everything she's discussing....
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
ultradamno:

I know You Tube is now insistent that I'm going to be a fan of coldwave band from eastern europe in the early eighties.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Franco Twinkie:

Google maps did not prevent us from stopping at a mall in Pleasanton, and me getting a truly mediocre cheeseburger, so what the hell good is it?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Webhamster Henry:

Netflix gave a prize for the algorithm that could improve its suggestions in 2009: en.wikipedia.org...
I think they are just using unstructured ML at this point.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
ultradamno:

Deep Mind...now that's a soft, cuddly name you can't imagine ending the world in a science fiction dystopia
  6:22pm
JakeGould:

If (Hun.Buns == true) {
My.Anaconda.Want = true;
}

There, I made a Sir Mix-A-Lot AI.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Webhamster Henry:

This person does not exist:
www.thispersondoesnotexist.com
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
ultradamno:

"Help this AI continue to dream"

Yep. I'm not clicking that.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm
chris:

at one point, and it may still be the case, for netflix, problems with recommendations are due to categorizing the available shows. all spaceship science fiction shows and movies are not created equal, for instance.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
chris:

nice one, JG. :)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

They should start AI on lab rats and monkeys first and move on to humans when it's proven viable.
Avatar 6:25pm
geezerette:

Franco@6:19: heh! :)
Avatar 6:26pm
geezerette:

I do not want to be "cared for" by a damn robot.
  6:26pm
JakeGould:

“It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times…”
Avatar 6:26pm
geezerette:

ha ha!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:27pm
Webhamster Henry:

Well, there's now a complete model of a fruit fly brain right now.
www.iflscience.com...
  6:28pm
JakeGould:

@WebhamsterHenry: DJ Fruit Fly brain would be a good overnight DJ.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm
Webhamster Henry:

@JakeGould WFMU already has Owlsun on the Ichiban stream!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Travisano66:

We could see your point of disagreement with the speaker coming a mile away. I'm surprised you were able to wait until she finished speaking to express your different view. Kudos.
Avatar 6:32pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Intelligence (distinct from Consciousness) as Leggo. Hierarchecal systems where each Level is built of component Units of the level below... & no human grasps the Totality of it... It's coincident with our Evolution. We're monkeys that Use Things - & have complex societies & communication
....but every Adaptation can become a Maladaptation - if it endangers survival in the environment - if it even endangers the environment itself... The question is does our species have other capacities to weigh against it - like Widom to use things harmoniously....
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Bas NL:

For the Greater Loot...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, @Travisano.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
chresti:

Right, Bas
  6:35pm
DJ Fruitfly Maggot Brain:

yo
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
chresti:

haha
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
Bas NL:

For one thing, i would have little use for a system that beats in in every game.. what's the fun in that?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
Franco Twinkie:

Last week in SF I found a copy of Beer Cans On The Mood by Ed Sanders. It has a song on it called Yodeling Robot. Said robot falls in love with Dolly Parton. Apocryphal? The record came out in 1972.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Franco Twinkie:

Moon.
Avatar 6:40pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Keep coming back to Webz & AI being Public Utilities
- but also the tightest Monopolies there have ever been.
What resolution could there possibly be ??
Avatar 6:43pm
geezerette:

The Trojan horses and shiny wampum were accepted by all of long ago. An enormous amount of propaganda,(i.e.advertising,Wired etc.) was employed to pacify, flatter, seduce and intimidate all of us to accept these gifts.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
chresti:

I fear that the goal of maximum profit and domination would lead to a worst case, catastrophic outcome
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
ultradamno:

Amazon Workers Attempting Walkout Enter 7th Hour Wandering In Ever-Expanding, Labyrinthian Warehouse www.theonion.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Webhamster Henry:

I see health care records being as backward compatible as Microsoft Word documents.#cassandra
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
chris:

HIPAA regulations in the us require the ability to exchange medical records between providers
  6:46pm
JakeGould:

@WebhamsterHenry: They would probably still have legacy code to keep dates compatible with “Lotus 1-2-3” date formatting.
  6:46pm
JakeGould:

@Chris: Have you ever had to deal with that bullshit in the real world? It’s messy and leaky.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
chris:

no, not really Jake. i've heard good stories of success, but not the ones of failure
  6:48pm
JakeGould:

Regulations without teeth are concepts.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm
Franco Twinkie:

Geezer, I too was brow beat by well meaning friends to raise my profile by signing on to fb and instagram. I just ignored everybody.
  6:49pm
N. Ron Hubble:

No racists in AI?! https://www.thestranger.com/news/2017/10/04/25451102/we-snuck-into-seattles-super-secret-white-nationalist-convention
Avatar 6:49pm
geezerette:

technotalitarianism
Avatar 6:49pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Fear of Socialism manifested everything Feared of Socialism. Essentially One Party Cryptocracy...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
chris:

there was an expensive investigation quite some time ago between the company i work for and the VA. it worked... but was expensive to get to a working point. this was prior to HIPAA and just as HL7 standard was being developed.
  6:50pm
JakeGould:

@Chris: Many places require documents be handed over physically and in person. Just imagine dealing with jumping between faculties—it’s always more than one—if you are sick.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm
ultradamno:

Isn't that kind of the problem of Myanmar? Where, lack of competition has lead to Facebook as essentially being the internet?
  6:51pm
JakeGould:

In general, most people in the U.S. don’t fully grasp how amazing universal healthcare would be. It would allow for the ideal situation of health data access and such as well as everything else.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
chris:

healthcare in the us is a sad, sad thing, imho.
Avatar 6:51pm
geezerette:

Franco, same here and they all think I'm a little backward.
  6:52pm
Phil:

This woman is a genius.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
chris:

there are many hospitals and providers in NY that use Epic EMR, making data access between places much, much easier.
Avatar 6:53pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Exactly Ultrad - Monopolies. Imagine if we could choose companies - who could challenge the products of the Nine....
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Franco Twinkie:

I am backward! So fucking what?
Avatar 6:53pm
geezerette:

Thanks once again, Mark. Very worthwhile program.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Webhamster Henry:

Ray Kurzweil says (cautions) that learning is an exponentially growing process, so the fact that AI seems dinky and trivial now is no harbinger of how it will be in a year or two . www.kurzweilai.net
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
chris:

thanks, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Maybe we should start with artificial stupidity and work our way backwards?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Dan Bodah:

Great interview Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
Franco Twinkie:

Mark, thank you for leading the charge of refuseniks.
Avatar 6:55pm
geezerette:

Franco, exactly!
  6:56pm
JakeGould:

¿ʇɐɥʍ ƃuᴉʞɔnɟ oS ¡pɹɐʍʞɔɐq ɯɐ I
Avatar 6:56pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

W Henry - what has happened with Tech that could possibly make someone think it's gonna slow down ??
Avatar 6:56pm
geezerette:

Jake, :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Travisano66:

Someone get that man a real horn an make him stop.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, Franco. I just think people deserve better options than the monopolies we have now!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
chresti:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
Franco Twinkie:

Ha! Brilliant!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
chris:

!sdrawkcab eb
  6:57pm
JakeGould:

Yuck fou!
Avatar 6:58pm
geezerette:

T shirt, Chris & Jake!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
ultradamno:

How often does a human horn change his reed?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

This has been an Irwin Chusid production!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
chresti:

Bizzaro World!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Mark Hurst:

This is the lead-in to Vocal Fry!
Avatar 6:58pm
geezerette:

Ha!
  6:59pm
mrmikestandsir:

Man, this year takes me back to the 90s
Avatar 6:59pm
geezerette:

Ken FHP, hilarious!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
Travisano66:

This is why mothers should not be able to tell their grown children that they're good at things.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

More Shooby Taylor info: www.keyofz.com...
Bottom
Comment!
Name
Email
(C) 2024 WFMU. Generated by KenzoDB, written by Ken Garson