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Options May 27, 2019: Justin E. H. Smith, author, "Irrationality: A History of the Dark Side of Reason"

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This week: Justin E. H. Smith, author, "Irrationality: A History of the Dark Side of Reason"

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Happy Memorial Day, when we're featuring a historian to help explain what's happening today. As tonight's outtro puts it: "If you don't know your past, you don't know your future."


Irrationality: A History of the Dark Side of Reason, by Justin E. H. Smith

• Twitter: @jehsmith

• Jaron Lanier at the DW Global Media Forum in Germany today: “I have friends in Google. They don’t spend time worrying about the media’s concerns, like society or survival. They’re in an AI race to create a giant brain, and the giant brain will then solve all problems.” (Quoted here on Twitter.) This perfectly describes how Google is making the same giant mistake that Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz made 300 years ago, as explained in tonight's interview with Justin E. H. Smith.

• Past Techtonic guest Vicki Boykis (from episode two!) points out that First American Financial Corp, according to Brian Krebs, has "leaked hundreds of millions of documents related to mortgage deals going back to 2003. The digitized records — including bank account numbers and statements, mortgage and tax records, Social Security numbers, wire transaction receipts, and drivers license images — were available without authentication to anyone with a Web browser."

• Not to be outdone, Russian data theft: Shady world where all is for sale (BCC, May 27) explores "how easy it is to buy personal data such as passport and bank account details in Russia itself."

• A self-serving NYT op-ed (May 23) about how we should stop worrying about privacy . . . from a cofounder of a company conducting surveillance on "buying behavior using data, artificial intelligence and predictive technologies."

• Also in the NYT (May 22), a data scientist saying that privacy stands in the way of health discoveries - privacy bad! Openness good! Chris Hoofnagle comments.

• Like I said on last week's Techtonic about Google/YouTube airing flat earth videos... here's Kara Swisher writing in the NYT (May 26) about Facebook airing the Pelosi video:

• And Walt Mossberg's take:

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Listener comments!

Avatar 5:28pm herb.nyc:

hi hi, I canNOT wait to hear what this GIANT MISTEAK is. (News of the Weird's Chuck Shepherd often wrote "misteak")
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techtoncologists!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm queems:

Avatar 6:02pm Beast of Boonton:

Hello Mark and Techtonic-Kins
Avatar 6:02pm geezerette:

What ultradamno said.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonia!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm Webhamster Henry:

Hello Technarchists!
Avatar 6:03pm Bas NL:

Mark! Techtonicistas!
  6:04pm melinda:

Hi friends
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm Webhamster Henry:

@Melinda is right; we should just call this group "Friends"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm ultradamno:

I saw on my twitter feed the account Weed City posted a link promoting the Google wifi system...I would have thought they'd be more paranoid than that. twitter.com...
  6:10pm JakeGould:

@ultradamno: That “Weed City” account looks like a completely click-bait filled account.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm Switchblade Batman:

Facebook really does get worse year after year.
Avatar 6:11pm geezerette:

We ARE on the edge of a cliff.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm Franco Twinkie:

To this day I am not on facebook for the simple reason that I am to damn lazy to bother.
  6:16pm LWR:

Mark, I see Pelosi all the time on C-SPAN live and that truly is how she behaves. She shakes and has trouble coming up with words while speaking. There seems to be something not well with her currently. Sad but true.
  6:17pm Jack Ass:

  6:18pm royal showbag:

Hey Mark and Techtons (listening from Australia)
  6:18pm JakeGould:

That should be “Cr-ass-tinate…” Am I right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm ultradamno:

Big Giant Head...isn't that from Third Rock From The Sun?
Avatar 6:21pm Fredericks:

I forgot it was Monday, until a minute ago.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm chresti:

AI/Giant Head saves the world
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:24pm Mark Hurst:

Hey everyone, thanks for joining in!
Avatar 6:25pm Fredericks:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm Mark Hurst:

Hi Techtoncologists (ultradamno), Techtonic-Kins (Beast), Techtonia (chresti), Technarchists (WH), Techtonicistas (Bas), and friends (Melinda)!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm chresti:

Avatar 6:26pm Fredericks:

Jack, do you mean No One?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:26pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Good evening, Techtoriders!
Avatar 6:29pm Bas NL:

Dictatorial regimes are often remembered by the great roadsystems and highways.. one day people will remember these times with: well, at least internet spread wide and got great bandwidth..
Avatar 6:30pm geezerette:

Bas, yep! :(
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm chresti:

a pipe dream
  6:31pm Andrea in Jersey City:

Full fascism is plain site.. surprise, it’s here!!!!!
  6:32pm Andrea in Jersey City:

In plain sight.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm Franco Twinkie:

Giant world brain! I feel a instructional comic book for children is in the making. Kind of like the ones we got in elementary school that told us not to play on the railroad track, stick nails in the wall socket, or drink paint thinner....Never mind, kids don't read comic books anymore....We're sunk.
  6:36pm P-90:

This “new feudalism” is synonymous with the “oligarchy” that Putin and others are promoting all over the world.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm Mark Hurst:

"Don't run with scissors! Always obey the giant world brain!"
Avatar 6:36pm Beast of Boonton:

Politician term limits would help
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm TedfromOakland:

everyone must read this, for insight and analysis on what the Peter Thiels are thinking and doing!: "The Darkness at the End of the Tunnel, in Viewpoint magazine online, by Shuja Haider. www.viewpointmag.com...
Avatar 6:36pm geezerette:

I am not surprised and I am very sad to have seen this develop.
We all need to stay awake, active, positive. It's necessary.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm Mark Hurst:

@Ted, thanks!
  6:40pm queems:

yeah, i’m 1000% addicted to my fitbit data
Avatar 6:41pm Bas NL:

Heroine seems great for loosing weight..
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm chresti:

Whatever happened to Yahoo?
  6:42pm P-90:

Business models HAVE evolved to a very counterproductive condition at present, agreed.
A more important point than is popularly recognized...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm ultradamno:

Superheroines are even better.
Avatar 6:43pm Fredericks:

  6:44pm pinnokio:

I like this guy, but I am uneasy with the authors acceptance of the way we use mobile devices, what about those who are young and impressionable, I would be interested to hear how this guy deals with parenthood
  6:45pm royal showbag:

@Ted thanks for the article!
Avatar 6:45pm Fredericks:

Politician term limits put lobbyists in charge.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm Franco Twinkie:

I can't help but notice I look slimmer and more attractive on the CCTV over the self check out purchase robot at Target. Don't believe me? Try it yourself, and then think about what you just did.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm Mark Hurst:

We're almost done with the interview... post any questions/comments here & I might be able to cover them in the final few minutes of the show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm melinda:

That's interesting Franco.
  6:52pm royal showbag:

I’ve got the hunch that we’ll see more ‘healthy’ behavioural badge systems implemented on iOS and Android / building upon the screen time. Seems everyone needs a badge or digital pat on the back to put their phones down.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm TedfromOakland:

do you all have a 'real life' spot where folks get together in person to discuss topics like these over beers, coffee, or meals? I'd love to listen in, while chatting and meeting some of you in person....let me know best bar or cafe to eavesdrop(!!) on these stimulating convos.
  6:53pm Dave from Brooklyn:

Welcome to the machine.
Where have you been
It's alright we KNOW where you've been!
Avatar 6:53pm geezerette:

Mark, thanks for providing this public service.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Granny Spicy Tuna:

Thanks for another great program, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Granny Spicy Tuna:

WFMU book club!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm ultradamno:

That's odd, I always look even weirder in the Kroger CCTV
  6:56pm royal showbag:

Thanks Mark for doing the wonderful work!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Franco Twinkie:

Thank you Mark. Go have a beer and hot dog.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm chresti:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar 6:58pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone, for your encouragement & comments!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:08pm Webhamster Henry:

Thanks! Till next time!
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