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Postwar atmospherica.

Jazz modernism, mystical pop, electronic creaks & pulses, Latin rhythms, soundtrack & library moods, cinematic surf, exotica & instrumental curios, soul heartache, hypnotic blues & R&B, spoken trances, lonesome country & rock 'n' roll, strange scales, drones, haze.

Plus experimental and ephemeral moving image flotsam live-screened every week on the Flame-O-Scope™.

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Favoriting January 31, 2019

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The Benjamin Specials Gospel Singers  I Am on the Right Road Now   Favoriting 7" 45  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Pervis Lee  You Don't Care   Favoriting Leeway  0:02:26 (Pop-up)
Fitz Gore & The Talismen  Gisela (Lion Rock)   Favoriting 7" 45  0:05:39 (Pop-up)
Assèlèfètch Ashiné & Géténèsh Kebrèt  Mètché Nèw   Favoriting Ethiopiques Vol. 13 - Ethiopian Groove  0:11:33 (Pop-up)
Ahmed Abdul-Malik  Communication   Favoriting Sounds Of Africa  0:15:04 (Pop-up)
Munir Bechir and his quartet  Shurud   Favoriting Babylon Mood  0:24:34 (Pop-up)
Phil Yost  Wave Your Moonlight Hat For The Snowfall Train   Favoriting Bent City  0:28:38 (Pop-up)
Family Souls  Cyke   Favoriting 7" 45  0:31:50 (Pop-up)
Los York's  Mi Mente En Ti   Favoriting 7" 45  0:35:57 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
 

the wide open  

 

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Sadik Hakim  Impulse   Favoriting East And West Of Jazz  0:50:43 (Pop-up)
Al Cohn  NY's Idea   Favoriting Al Cohn Quartet With Henri Renaud  0:58:04 (Pop-up)
The Jaguars  Jaguar   Favoriting 7" 45  0:58:16 (Pop-up)
The Cordials  Eek   Favoriting 7" 45  0:59:56 (Pop-up)
Kip Tyler  Shadow Street   Favoriting 7" 45  1:02:06 (Pop-up)
Rebert Howell with Ray Guyce & His Lonesome Valley Boys  I Don't Want to Cry Over You   Favoriting 7" 45  1:04:40 (Pop-up)
Tracy Pendarvis And The Swampers  South Bound Line   Favoriting 7" 45  1:07:05 (Pop-up)
Magic Slim  Scuffling   Favoriting 7" 45  1:09:34 (Pop-up)
Freddie Scott & The Chimes  Letter Came This Morning   Favoriting 7" 45  1:11:48 (Pop-up)
Chuck Willis  Give and Take   Favoriting 7" 45  1:13:56 (Pop-up)
Martinez-Cheda Orchestra  Cuban Fantasy   Favoriting Let's Dance Latin with Martinez-Cheda Orchestra  1:16:38 (Pop-up)
Gerald Wilson And His Orchestra  Lotus Land   Favoriting Progressive Sounds by Gerald Wilson  1:19:10 (Pop-up)
Michiya Mihashi - Tadaaki Misago & Tokyo Cuban Boys  Soran-Bushi   Favoriting Shamisen Recital  1:24:50 (Pop-up)
Hachidai Nakamura  Sakura Sakura (Cherry Blossoms)   Favoriting Rainy Night in Tokyo  1:29:34 (Pop-up)
Singleman  Yeah   Favoriting 7" 45  1:32:30 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
 

a dark den  

 

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Harmonia  Watussi   Favoriting Musik von Harmonia  1:44:52 (Pop-up)
anon.  Untitled   Favoriting Cambodian Cassette Archives: Khmer Folk & Pop Music Vol. 1  1:50:08 (Pop-up)
Laxmikant Pyarelal  Gaon Gaon Ghoomi   Favoriting Jalte Badan  1:52:27 (Pop-up)

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isle of somewhere  

 

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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02pm
Little Danny:

See y'all at the top of the hour! Godspeed Evan
  9:11pm
Dean:

Damn. Just started spinning Sun Ra/Walt Dickerson Visions on the home system. It's among my top five favorite albums. But the advent of CBF prompts me to defer and listen live to this show on the cheesy Chromebook, which is how I luck to receive radio.
  9:13pm
Dean:

You're still an hour away?
  9:14pm
Dean:

Aha! 10:00 to midnight. Gives me an hour to play...Visions!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:14pm
Little Danny:

Dean! Yes, now 45 minutes and counting the miles.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:15pm
Little Danny:

Great album/collab
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:16pm
Little Danny:

Why don't you get a pair of speakers fer yer laptop? My Bose laptop speakers are acceptable
  9:21pm
Dean:

In a word, LD, snobbery. I like *really good* sound reproduction, as in totally unaffordable, last-millimeter-of-fidelity-is-worth-a-second-mortgage sound reproduction. I also like the sound of crappy radio. Reminds me of my youth.
  9:23pm
Dean:

I can't afford the former; still, I have approached nirvana over the years. I can't retrieve the latter, because I long ago got rid of my battery-driven transistor radio that I'd nestle under my pillow. So, I compromise.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 9:29pm
chresti:

Hello!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33pm
Little Danny:

@Dean: I respect that purity and commitment even if I don't totally adhere to it. My Sansui AU-999 is hopefully the last receiver/amp I'll ever need. Acceptable if not completely satisfactory. Same for my Technics turntables and carts/stylii. My record collecting choices - most often lo-fi '50s and '60s 45 obscurities - put logical limits on the audiophile necessities
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:33pm
Little Danny:

Haha, hi Chresti!

Back in a little bit, gotta get my shit together here
  9:37pm
Dean:

It's very difficult for me not to start the endless discussion about stereo equipment. Very difficult. In a nutshell, almost daily I tell my kids I want better amplifiers, and that one of the hurdles to obtaining them is, e.g., the expense of child care, etc. I don't think this diminishes their self-esteem. Rather, it helps them realize HOW MUCH I SACRIFICE to make them happy.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 9:37pm
chresti:

Goofing up the record
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 9:37pm
Franco Twinkie:

We're already standing around in the kitchen, gabbing and blocking the sink, while the host is trying to get the party food ready.
  9:38pm
Dean:

Get the fuck out of my kitchen. Jesus, doesn't anybody have manners?
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 9:39pm
chresti:

Wow, was she laughing or crying on the Teen fair?
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 9:45pm
Franco Twinkie:

Dean, I operate on the low end. I have a Denon DRA-400 rescued from the junk pile at a repair shop. Suits me fine. I also have a Bogen RP60 at my moms house that's kaput at the moment, but I swear, will rise again.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54pm
Little Danny:

Dean, I recall you mentioning yer Linn Arkiv stylus. You might appreciate this oddball and its wooden tonearm that I use for 78s: audiokarma.org...
  9:57pm
Dean:

That's a beauty! Fortunately, I haven't ventured into 78 territory, though I know there are respectable current options available!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00pm
Little Danny:

Oh hey everybody!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01pm
Little Danny:

Franco, chresti and Dean get the best seats tonight
  10:02pm
Dean:

Settling in...
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:02pm
Franco Twinkie:

The train pulls in on time breathing fire!
Avatar 10:03pm
still b/p:

Swaying and reaching toward heaven in the back pews!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:06pm
fleep:

Leaps onto the moving train, lands with a wet plop, skids up the aisle to the fifth row and takes a window seat. Hey Danny!
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:06pm
chresti:

Pervis! I love you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07pm
Little Danny:

Hey still, hey fleep! All aboard!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09pm
Little Danny:

I'm with you, chresti
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:09pm
Franco Twinkie:

Fleep, you get blasted this afternoon?
Avatar 10:10pm
Kris Holmes:

Hey team
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10pm
Little Danny:

Kris Holmes in the house. Hey mate!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:11pm
coelacanth∅:

good evening Danny & cool Bleuets
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:11pm
Franco Twinkie:

Kris! Did you bring the pizza chips?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12pm
Little Danny:

There's that beautiful Volvo with that beautiful ancient fish
Avatar 10:12pm
Kris Holmes:

i brought nothing
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:13pm
fleep:

Franco, in all the time we've lived here, the house never shook from the thunder like it did today. But we have ways to stay really, really calm. And the cat was a trouper.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:15pm
chresti:

I got to see a little flash in the morning and downpour at lunchtime, exhilarating
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:16pm
chresti:

It was over by 3 in the afternoon PST
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16pm
Little Danny:

Huh, never knew it was spelled "trouper." My grammar blogs are telling me you're right.

SHIT I LEARNED TODAY
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:16pm
Franco Twinkie:

No Shit! KABOOM!!! I was painting a sign on the front porch, but dragged the whole operation into the house.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16pm
doctorjazz:

Hey all! Another audionerd here, Linn 'table and other high end stuff (but aging .. 25 year old amp and speakers, that need some refurbishing, sound is not what it should be (but refurbishing or replacing this stuff ain't cheap). Been into portable audio (headphones, amps, digital audio players). And, when I'm lazy, just use my phone.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:17pm
chresti:

I thought trooper was also correct
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:17pm
Little Danny:

Hi Doc! I love the switch from audio decadence to audio stoicism in your scheme
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:21pm
Franco Twinkie:

When it's not a biblical rain storm, I use an ancient Califone school record player run thru a Supro guitar amp for my lounge/work area outside.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21pm
coelacanth∅:

coincidentally doing audio equipment stuff most of the day today
  10:21pm
Dean:

Best system I ever heard was all Linn. Yet I am suitably Linn-skeptical, too. Can't bear the portable trend, particularly the weird habit of sticking things in or on one's ears.
  10:23pm
Dean:

Systems that didn't rate, should anybody care, included Wilson speakers, another with Krell amps. Meh.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23pm
Little Danny:

Fun distraction: wfmu.servebeer.com

Kinda bummed it doesn't reflect my extensive use of the Ethiopiques compilation series, but hey
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23pm
coelacanth∅:

yeah i almost never use headphones. (except when i work on my own recordings) decent speakers are essential to me.
  10:25pm
Dean:

Contra Anthony Cordesman, I believe speakers are perhaps the least important factor in a good system. Any good speaker is ... pretty good. A shitty amp will never rise to the occasion. And of course the source is all. I proved that (to myself) recently by replacing one cheap CD transport with another.
  10:26pm
Dean:

That word cloud can't be right.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26pm
Little Danny:

Are you definitely looking at my show?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26pm
coelacanth∅:

David Bowie? more than anything else?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27pm
Little Danny:

@Dean
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:27pm
chresti:

Don't have a spectacular sound set up for listening online, other than head and earphones.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:27pm
Franco Twinkie:

We have Yamaha studio monitors in the living room that are pretty dead. If I was not such a lazy fuck, I would retrieve the Jensens from my moms house.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27pm
coelacanth∅:

i mean, it's possible, but it couldn't be by much.
Avatar 10:28pm
still b/p:

I was gonna say...depending on which shows one listens to, some of the prominent names there are....unexpected.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28pm
fleep:

The phone here gets paired up with Anker Bluetooth speakers, which pack a decent punch for their size. Conflicting entertainment streams (like A Star is Born with Janet Gaynor vs. this, right now) means a lot of headphone action.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:29pm
coelacanth∅:

i have old genesis speakers. the last of their heavy, hardwood cabinets and a particular configuration with a passive radiator that i think is excellent. but the foam is in a bad way.
  10:29pm
Dean:

Not seeing how to focus on one show. (This is a common phenomenon with UX designer folks. They don't bother to research how people actually view their data, and understandably so, because it takes a lot of work to do that research!)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:30pm
Little Danny:

Huh yeah David Bowie does seem an unlikely top choice for FMU overall. Go to the DJs menu for more fun
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:30pm
Little Danny:

DJs menu, Dean
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:31pm
coelacanth∅:

actually the 'stones being (tied for) second seems even more unlikely to me.
Avatar 10:32pm
still b/p:

When people mention newest Star is Born and they've "heard" it's a remake, I take a silly pride in knowing the three earlier actor pairings.
  10:33pm
Dean:

Old Genesis speakers?! Wow!

My faves have been Dunlavy SC-IV, but I love my old Audio Physic Spark III, too.

The DJs menu guides me to "DJ Profile," which suggests I can view information about the DJ, not the show. Nevertheless, Clear Blue Flame does not file there, nor does Little Danny. Folks, this requires thought.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33pm
coelacanth∅:

okay the individual shows seem more believable.
...
Avatar 10:34pm
still b/p:

Uncle Michael throwin' down with a BIG ol' Merle Haggard dominating dramatically!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35pm
coelacanth∅:

Les Baxter! okay i believe it!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35pm
coelacanth∅:

(but again, not by that much)
  10:35pm
Dean:

Goddammit, I hate technology. I have no problem reading manuals and learning, but I despise the jerk-offs who designed this miserable platform over which we consult each other. I hope Sir Tim Berners-Lee burns in hell.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:36pm
Franco Twinkie:

Actually all this audio talk is pretty irrelevant to Chresti and myself. We both are on our way to been stone deaf from years of standing in front of the PA at the Whisky A Go Go.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:36pm
Little Danny:

I love you Dean
  10:36pm
Dean:

What?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38pm
coelacanth∅:

i've gotta keep working on my system.
'almost done replacing my amp but there're only 4 inputs with rec-outs; i need 5. a have a switching selector...somewhere.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38pm
doctorjazz:

Pretty cool set, LD.
I stick those things in my ear every night, fall asleep with custom in ear monitors custom molded to my ears .. Heaven!
@Dean, it's all matching gear of course. An all Linn system has the advantage of already being matched. I use A Krell amp with Thiel speakers to good results, and have heard Krell amps diving Soundlab speakers producing fabulous sound (I'd need a nice inheritance for that system, though).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38pm
Little Danny:

re: your tech feelings
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38pm
Little Danny:

@Dean
  10:45pm
Dean:

I always enjoyed Thiel speakers, but never quite took to them. Again, though, speakers aren't all that important. Many are very, very good. Krell amps, though -- I mean the coffee-table sized ones featured in the late '90s at Peter Singer's store in Manhattan -- are so-so. Hyped, in other word.

I've heard about custom molded earbuds, but still...in your ears? They have zero to do with reproduction of a live performance. They're merely pushing data into your ears, while when we attend live music the sounds fall upon our entire bodies. I really don't get it. (I'm also opposed to the 'reverse colostomy bag' nature of earbuds and headphones.)

You are exactly right about Linn and matching, which is a "duh" observation, but it doesn't drive the market, does it?
  10:48pm
Dean:

(My "What?," by the way, was a weak attempt at humor in response to Franco's comment about being hearing-impaired due to attendance at live shows.)
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:50pm
chresti:

Sounds good! Missed Flash.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:50pm
coelacanth∅:

Thankful Evan's physically okay, anyway.
  10:51pm
Dean:

You're only one hour earlier? I'm at 7:49. You?

Re: fidelity, you have it wrong. The "fidelity" of the source material is what it is, no more, no less (short of digital intervention). But a good 'table/arm/cartridge will expose information your system might not reveal, even given the quality of the disk.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:51pm
chresti:

Oh, haha Dean!
  10:52pm
Dean:

Rim shot
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:53pm
Franco Twinkie:

Dean, If it was just The Bags and their ilk, I would be fine. But I've also been a carpenter for most my life. The power tools are the real culprit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53pm
doctorjazz:

What happened to Flash? He's OK, no?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55pm
Little Danny:

Oh Flash is fine, doc. His computer irrevocably bit it in the recent days however.
  10:57pm
Dean:

Buddy of mine in Connecticut is a house/commercial building painter. It takes a toll.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 10:58pm
Franco Twinkie:

I'm a broken man.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:59pm
Little Danny:

I think I agree with you, Dean, but the poor production quality (is that better?) of some of my chosen 45s nonetheless puts a definite ceiling on my audiophile pursuits. Personal choice over here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:02pm
coelacanth∅:

within a year after high school i'd bought a nice amplifier, a nice cassette deck, and a nice turntable. (i was using a heath kit tuner my father put together years before) -and i had absolutely shitty speakers.
so i saved around $5-600.00 for new ones and went to the store. i happen to get there when genesis had discontinued their entire line of hardwood speakers and the guy tried hard to get me into the new genesis, that were made of molded plywood of some sort. none of them sounded great to me, and they started at like $650.(?) i was about to leave and he mentioned the very last pair of the old genesis they had, which was kind of hiding somewhere. i plugged in to the same system i'd tried the others with & they sounded beautiful!. $450.00 for the pair. same ones i'm using right now.
  11:03pm
Dean:

Question begging, I'm afraid. We don't know if the production quality is poor until we extract and play back as much of the information as we can. Obviously, it might be empirically correct to characterize the material you play as having generally been badly recorded. But we don't know if we're not optimizing the reproduction.

By which I mean, I want to spend ungodly sums of money on stereo equipment.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03pm
coelacanth∅:

!...(whew)
  11:04pm
Dean:

Heathkit, nice.
  11:05pm
Ignore Function:

This was on the Out Where cd. I knew it sounded familiar.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:06pm
Little Danny:

Ignore: thanks for remembering!!! Man, that warms my black heart
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07pm
coelacanth∅:

yeah i don't know how accurate my system's reproduction is, but i know when i like the sound.
a yamaha cd player sounds better than a sony. the sony receiver sounds better than the (considerably more expensive) denon i just replaced it with. my old teac sounded better than either of them.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 11:08pm
Franco Twinkie:

I look at re-engineered records on 8000 gram vinyl and think why would I buy such a thing? I only lust after oddball junk.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:08pm
Little Danny:

Dean: You're wrong but so right and either way I would love to A/B some of my shit-fi 45s on your various stereo components.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09pm
Little Danny:

"South Bound Line" was recorded at Sam Phillips's Memphis studio and thus it sounds terrific
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09pm
coelacanth∅:

it does
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 11:10pm
northguineahills:

made it back!
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 11:11pm
Franco Twinkie:

This I must find!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11pm
doctorjazz:

Heathkits are supposed to be nice sounding(or were. . ).
It's probably better not to get the Audiophile bug. I think I did a better job filling in the missing details is my mind before getting the bug For instance, I had no problem listening to 1920s King Oliver and hearing /feeling the band with older recording tech and bad fidelity. Audiophiles tend to only want to listen to well recorded material
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11pm
Little Danny:

NGH! Welcome brother
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13pm
Little Danny:

Oh it's definitely better not to have the disease, doc
Avatar 11:13pm
still b/p:

I've always had-- and have relied on for long product lifetimes -- standard medium low-end consumer stereo equipment. Still use Pioneer SX434 receiver bought in 1975, I think. When I finally had to replace old deteriorating KLH speakers after 20 years, one salesman said models in my price range should only be expected to last five years. I says, " Excuuuuuse me?" The Kenwoods bought at the time are now about 25 years old.
  11:14pm
Ignore Function:

One of my most played premium CDs I've gotten, LD.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:15pm
doctorjazz:

Lots of stuff now is made to self destruct.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:15pm
Little Danny:

Ahhh thanks so much! I was (humbly) very satisfied with it, too, I.F.
  11:15pm
Dean:

I'm telling you, there are brilliant technicians at work retrieving (and, admittedly, re-engineering) old opera recordings to amazing effect. Richard Caniell, Andrew Rose, Mark Obert-Thorn, Ward Marston... The results are shocking, not perfect, but quite beautiful.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16pm
doctorjazz:

On a 45 run, cool! And Chuck Willis sounds mighty fine here!
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 11:17pm
Franco Twinkie:

I remember going to this audio nerds house and having to suffer through a Peter, Paul and Mary record that was the pinnacle of cornball just because this person and his insufferable friends decided it was the ultimate test of what the fuck.
Avatar 11:17pm
still b/p:

6 AM rise and drive drive time to attend third wake or funeral of Dec. - Jan.
Must say night all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18pm
coelacanth∅:

that shit should be illegal! a receiver could and SHOULD be made to last decades; and be made repairable. it's a crime against the planet that $500.00 devices are essentially disposable.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18pm
Little Danny:

A reluctant g'night, Still! But thanks, and good luck tomorrow.
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 11:18pm
chresti:

Goodnight still b/p
I finally got a day off tomorrow
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19pm
coelacanth∅:

'night s b/p
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19pm
Little Danny:

extreme audiophiles often have the WORST tastes in music
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19pm
coelacanth∅:

oh shit - my condolences s b/p.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:20pm
doctorjazz:

I used to go to audio shows years back ... Every room was playing Paul Simon's Graceland or Jennifer Warnes' Famous Blue Raincoat, drove me batty (these were considered sonically the best demo records at the time)
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 11:20pm
chresti:

Agree to coel's comment both times
  11:21pm
Dean:

"extreme audiophiles often have the WORST tastes in music "

Oh my god, yes. Jennifer Warnes singing Leonard Cohen. Bullshit recordings of whoop-ass orchestral crap nobody wants to hear.

OTOH, Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus is gorgeous.
  11:22pm
Dean:

Bingo, doctorjazz. I'm so-so for Jennifer, never ever got Leonard. The album itself? Who cares?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:22pm
doctorjazz:

(I would drive them nuts by asking to play a Willem Breuker Kollektief LP I'd bring along)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:22pm
Little Danny:

I really wanna play my Singleman 45 right now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:23pm
Little Danny:

Hold on...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:23pm
coelacanth∅:

i remember when i got "l.a.woman" for xmas when i was little and it sounded so good on my crappy stuff. my older brother the first time our parents were both out said let's put la woman on dad's stereo
oh man! i was too young for an orgasm but Wow!
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 11:24pm
Franco Twinkie:

When Little Feat recorded that record they were the Bruce Lee of boogie bands. They could slap your ass in a hot minute.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:25pm
Little Danny:

Oof, sorry for the erratic levels. Records!
  11:26pm
Dean:

Long ago I bought (with my own dollars) Zubin Mehta conducting the LA Phil's Holst Planets. It's one fucking beat-up LP in my collection. The sound is radiant.

I live two blocks from one of the engineers of that album, Franco. The original painting for the over hangs in his store. He has stories to tell.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:26pm
coelacanth∅:

i deeply love a significant % of Leonard Cohen; but sonically? who cares! that's not what that music is about!
  11:26pm
Dean:

^cover
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27pm
Little Danny:

I stand with Coel
Avatar 💍 Swag For Life Member 11:28pm
Franco Twinkie:

So you told me. Next time I'm in Berkeley, I must bow down in it's presence.
  11:29pm
Dean:

My only complaints about Leonard Cohen are 1) his lyrics, 2) his voice, and 3) his tunes. Other than that...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:30pm
coelacanth∅:

i love this song.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:32pm
doctorjazz:

I love lots of Cohen stuff too but it's definitely an either it grabs you or it doesn't kind of thing. Like Dylan Like Tom Waits.
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Little Danny:

OMG Dean

But I still love you
  11:34pm
Dean:

Except neither Dylan nor Waits is "an either it grabs you or it doesn't" for me. I selectively adore Dylan and Waits. Cohen? What's all the hoopla about? He has a schtick, as I hear him.
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doctorjazz:

Like this Singleman (which I love )!
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coelacanth∅:

it sounded great!
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fleep:

Cohen is a phase you go through, like Khalil Gibran or Ayn Rand. In time, if you're lucky, you get over it.
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doctorjazz:

Dean, you have to learn to express yourself. Let it out !You'll feel better.
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coelacanth∅:

that's a traditional song though.
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coelacanth∅:

(actually composed by Michio Miyagi. otherwise entitled "sakura hensokyoku")
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doctorjazz:

In ears don't get the room sound like a good speaker system can, true But the room /soundstage information is there in the recording (if it's decent), you'd be surprised how much you still get. And the detail you hear on a good in ear is amazing .. Much more that all but the most expensive speaker systems .
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Franco Twinkie:

Dean, Who would drive across the county in a small car with, Leonard Cohen or Exene Cervenka? Please choose one.
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chresti:

I haven't warmed up to Cohen, yet. Took awhile with Waits, I found him a bit schticky early on
  11:44pm
Dean:

Detail is overrated with respect to live shows. Real live music doesn't produce "detail."

I'm no fan of Exene, either. In fact, I named one of my bands M in response to the silly X her band adopted. X. Really? You named your band X? I'm having a hard time thinking of any name more stupid.
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coelacanth∅:

Waits is still pretty Schticky. i like most of his stuff that's not slow; and cringe at most of his stuff that is. (like most of his early stuff. a rare case of someone who got better in time)
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Little Danny:

Hahaha that is so Dean
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coelacanth∅:

that band would've been at least okay if she never sang.
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coelacanth∅:

(but i feel similarly about Grace Slick too)
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northguineahills:

weird, I like all things Cohen. Pretty much most Dylan except which that started to creep into my lifetime, Waits, I love, but I won't die on that hill.
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Franco Twinkie:

Thank you. Before I posed the question I said to Chresti - watch this.
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chresti:

Heh. Loving this show and this song, thank you thank you LD!
  11:49pm
Dean:

My take on Waits is that his early work was gritty enough to merit attention. Middle period got intriguing and exploratory, for lack of a better characterization. Later on, I sensed he was running out of *good* ideas, if not exactly ideas altogether.
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coelacanth∅:

ngh, i think most if not all Cohen songs are good, if not great. the problem he suffered through over and over (and over) was producers with some crazyass ideas that didn't jive with Leonard himself most of the time.
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doctorjazz:

Detail isn't necessarily what you hear in concerts; I've never heard a stereo system that was anywhere close to a good live show They're all different animals imo. Heard Andy Statman this last weekend in a nice small room, good sound there, but I had a seat off to the left, balance not great Still loved it .
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Little Danny:

Y'all are killing me right now

Leonard Cohen's voice, songs, and lyrics are the best. At least early on. Then it gets, um, trickier
  11:50pm
Dean:

I'll repeat myself, but "Goddammit," listening to the music "from the good old days," this Harmonia, is an utter joy.
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Little Danny:

Thank YOU chresti!
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coelacanth∅:

well, Danny we have a team of 3 at least.
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coelacanth∅:

Leonard let himself be manipulated a lot in the studio. i happen to like most of the bg voices on his first 3 albums, but he didn't. same with other embelishments. he hated most of it but let it slide.
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Little Danny:

@coel: Maybe I'll wrap with something from Songs of Love and Hate just to be sassy
  11:54pm
Dean:

See, doctorjazz! You're depicting the *live show* you attended in terms of audiophile bullshit like "balance" and such. Huh? Your job is not to hear the live show as you might have heard a good recording.

I have heard stereo systems that make me feel (almost) like I'm *there*, my own included. The question remains, what is "there"?
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doctorjazz:

Thanks Danny, great stuff , another bleary eyes Friday coming ..
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Little Danny:

Coel is spot on re:Cohen
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Little Danny:

Doc: thank you sir, happy to contribute to a rough Friday morning
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Franco Twinkie:

No dishes or noses were broken, so I guess we had a good time. Thanks for letting us crap up your house, Danny.
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doctorjazz:

That's the point, that audio stuff (which I Do do) is a construct, one way of listening, but not the only way.
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coelacanth∅:

the brilliance of his lyrics are at least at the level of Dylan, much of the time.
"dress rehearsal rag" is an absolute masterpiece.
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coelacanth∅:

Franco Twinkie, Clinical Psychologist.
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doctorjazz:

I'd go along with the Waits sequence, loved the early stuff, found the mix stuff (was it Ribot in guitar ) interesting, then lost interest. Like most Dylan (till his Christian time ,anyway), and Cohen
Night all!
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coelacanth∅:

damn that snuck up.
Thanks Danny! Excellent program as usual.
sweet dreams y'all
  12:02am
Dean:

Yeah, Ribot and Cohen et al. A nice time.

I'm mildly fond of the Christian Dylan, but for purely personal reasons. I was working a record store when Slow Train Coming emerged.
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northguineahills:

Howdy thanks, LD!
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coelacanth∅:

ciao
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Little Danny:

Thanks and luv to y'all. Loads of great discussion tonight; it's appreciated
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