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Options January 30, 2019: Help Andy and Little Matty Warwick Understand the Monty Hall Problem

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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:01pm PMD:

Where's Ken?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:02pm queems:

left channel
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:03pm dale:

little matty is a perfect foil for andy. or a perfect moil.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:07pm dale:

ice cold sewage water is the worst.
  6:07pm Sam:

Is this just Andy with a ventriloquist dummy that giggles all the time?
  6:07pm gw:

Cue laugh track .
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:08pm queems:

i only have 4 lava lamps
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:09pm dale:

matt will be s.m. some day.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:10pm melinda:

I would like to have a lava lamp someday.
  6:12pm Fred:

MAtt, your title should be "The Sun Also Rises"
Avatar 6:12pm ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:

What happened to Ken's voice?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:13pm dale:

i have TWO copies of Prince: Alter Ego, Edition# 1 - and new they go for about $200 (ASKING price). kyle also sadi i have a joey buttafucco and amy fisher comic that i forgot i had.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:14pm dale:

this could be a new shut up weirdo.
  6:14pm noel:

Where is Ken?
  6:15pm noel:

Sam you're so right
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:16pm dale:

at a broadway show noel.
Avatar 6:16pm geo in jc:

FYI 536-9368 = KEN-WFMU
  6:17pm JakeGould:

This Matt and Andy show is really good.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:17pm queems:

is there a topic
  6:17pm Sam:

If Matt doesn’t stop giggling I’m declaring this a bad show
Avatar 6:17pm herb.nyc:

eek, an abortion joke. uh, not funny.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:18pm dale:

design office i worked at once was an abortion clinic beforehand - there was holy water hidden in the air conditioner cases.
  6:20pm gw:

Screw all of you habitual commenters . Sick of you all .
Avatar 6:20pm herb.nyc:

yes, it's a math problem. Marilyn Vos Savant talked about it in a column. I think she had it right as well.
  6:20pm igor:

This sounds like people inside piano on Lumpy Gravy
  6:20pm JakeGould:

Learn at MontyHallProblem dot com… www.montyhallproblem.com
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:20pm dale:

fire sprinkler pipes froze. water expands when it freezes. the pipe doesn't. something gives and it's usually the pipe. ice thaws. water escapes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:21pm dale:

severe a.d.d. is what this station runs on.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:21pm Nick the Bard:

www.straightdope.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:21pm diciassette:

In the Monty Hall problem if you are allowed to choose two of three doors your chance of winning is 2/3. If you know which of the three doors will not win and allowed to pick one your chance of winning is 1/2. The paradox comes from people conflating the second scenario with the first.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:22pm PMD:

@Sam, thank you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:22pm queems:

yeah this is way over my head
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:23pm Sean d:

A spooforknife!?
Avatar 6:23pm ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:

There is a Runcible Spoon coffee shop in Nyack, NY, about half hour drive north of Jersey City.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:24pm Aaron in Minneapolis:

The Monty Hall problem is theres water damage in Monty Hall
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:24pm diciassette:

The scenario given is that you choose one door that has a 1/3 chance, then you know which of the other two doors has no chance. So by picking one of the other two doors (specifically the one that isn't guaranteed to lose) you have a 2/3 chance of winning.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:25pm queems:

@aaron correct
Avatar 6:25pm herb.nyc:

Bad Show was mentioned! I have an idea to re-start it. I mentioned it to ken but he wasn't keen on it. but since he's not here...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:26pm dale:

but i WANT the door with jay in a diaper in a giant crib!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:27pm Nick the Bard:

maybe i want the goat or the broken shed
Avatar 6:28pm herb.nyc:

another way to visualize it - there are TEN doors. you pick one and monty opens 5or6 of them. do you switch? YES!
Avatar 6:28pm herb.nyc:

that was SYNCHRONOUS, the phone call
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:29pm dale:

is statistics math or philosophy?
  6:29pm JakeGould:

Shut the eff up. This makes no sense.
  6:29pm Patty D:

I am so lost right now.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:30pm Ken From Hyde Park:

More info: en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:30pm dale:

herb.nyc - why?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:31pm queems:

i just texted my statistician ex boyfriend to explain it to me
Avatar 6:32pm herb.nyc:

"jerry, it moved!"
  6:32pm noel:

The Race to The Bottom WINNER of BAD SHOWS
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:33pm dale:

so this is all based on the thinking of the genious from parade magazine. parade and genius do not jibe together.
Avatar 6:33pm herb.nyc:

dale, the caller is right, and Andy is slowly getting it (there's hope for humanity). you can even write out a table of all the outcomes, and it's probably on the website that jakegould gave us.
  6:35pm mzzm:

sounds so typical this money centric bold dude is this stupid & ignorant...
Avatar 6:35pm Fredericks:

First pick = 33% chance, second = 50% chance.
  6:36pm JakeGould:

110%
  6:37pm mzzm:

no, dis is high school..
Avatar 6:37pm herb.nyc:

there's also the BIRTHDAY problem. if you have 24 (was it fewer?) people together there is a 50/50 chance that 2 people share a birthday.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:38pm queems:

yeah i get it now
  6:38pm Chauncey:

"Dear Pig, are you willing to sell for one shilling Your ring?" Said the Piggy, "I will." So they took it away, and were married next day by the turkey who lives on the hill. They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible spoon; And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, They danced by the light of the moon, The moon, They danced by the light of the moon
  6:39pm JakeGould:

This is really a good show. This should be a thing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:39pm queems:

apparently it is about long term results
  6:39pm mzzm:

it's so painful listening this. good bye
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:40pm Sean d:

triangulate and then use door zero
  6:40pm noel:

"For the Love of Crack" end this!!!!
  6:40pm Sam:

These people all have it backwards. You should always stick with your first guess. Maybe I’ll have to call in and explain it.
  6:41pm tak:

i'm crying
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:41pm queems:

this is a really good topic
  6:41pm Karen:

It’s an example of how probability and logic are not always logical to the human brain.
  6:41pm tak:

this is high school maths so i'm hoping you reach a conclusion soon
  6:41pm JakeGould:

If two of the three little pigs worked together to share resources, they could have built a home strong enough to withstand a bigoted wolf from indiscriminately blowing their house down.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:41pm queems:

A LITERAL CHILD IS GOING TO EXPLAIN IT
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:42pm dale:

can we discuss the burt convy conundrum?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:42pm Smokestack:

Well said @Karen :)
  6:42pm Karen:

I know it and understand it, but I still have trouble really believing or feeling it.
  6:42pm noel:

Make him cry Andy!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:43pm Sean d:

Put the same number on all three doors!!!!
  6:43pm JakeGould:

@Sam: Yeah! Stick to your first choice! Don’t show weakness! BE A MAN!!!
Avatar 6:43pm herb.nyc:

can Beth tell us how much Andy makes?
  6:43pm noel:

and we end with Bobby Goldsboro
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:44pm dale:

if this was the lady or the tiger would you still change your choice?
  6:45pm JakeGould:

And the act’s name is… “The Aristocrats!”
  6:46pm ButtWeenies:

Put an end to this misery do a Monty Hall paradox with the T-shirt as a prize.
  6:46pm JakeGould:

Make it rain, Andy! Make it rain!!!
  6:47pm noel:

"Judge not, lest you, be Judged"
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:47pm queems:

dIvOrCe
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:48pm common:

I love you too
  6:49pm Karen:

@ButtW just make it a Monty Hall Paradox/Monty Hall Venue t-shirt for marathon.
  6:49pm Sam:

Ok there are three possible scenarios where the car could be. Let’s say you pick 1 each time. If it’s behind 1, you’re better off sticking with your first guess. If it’s behind 2, they’ll say It’s Not behind 3, and you’d be better off changing. If it’s behind 3, they’ll say It’s not behind 2, and you’re still better off changing. So that’s 2 out of 3 scenarios where you should change your guess, and only 1 where you shouldn’t.
  6:50pm ButtWeenies:

Why is the line always busy
  6:50pm Karen:

@Sam YES! Exactly!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:50pm Smokestack:

If that lottery ticket example didn't help Andy, nothing will.
  6:50pm ButtWeenies:

This went off the rails they don’t want to inderstand
  6:51pm Karen:

I’m pretty sure that my mind is sketching up that t-shirt mash up for marathon right now.
  6:52pm ButtWeenies:

They didn’t have to be lottery tickets it could just be blank pieces of paper. Throw in lottery numbers and he thinks people picked the numbers it blows his mind.
Avatar 6:52pm leylou:

by the time the math teacher finished explaining it, I was laughing out loud from surprise :D , I have just begun revisiting math these last few days and I got the MH problem but at the same time I could completely understand your bewilderment at it, since that's how I've been feeling since I was exposed to Probability problems in high school.. a decade ago!

*not the first time since I started listening to SSD last year, but this one was reeeeally a big genuine synchronous one! (so I guess thank you SO much guys, especially if this ends up putting me back on the track of Mathematics for good in my career & life now :))) )
  6:52pm Karen:

@ButtW, but they do want the free t-shirt designs... ;P
Avatar 6:52pm ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:

Knowledge is NOT power.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:53pm Ken From Hyde Park:

It's quite elementary for a guy. Ask your wife if you should switch or not and dutifully follow her advice.
  6:53pm Karen:

@kfhp especially if she makes more than you
  6:53pm ButtWeenies:

It would be a great design I should get a free one
  6:54pm JakeGould:

@leylou: OMFG! If Andy and Matt revived your career that would be amazing and statistically unpredictable. Take that Nate Silver!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:54pm queems:

"if you always choose to open another door then if the first door you choose was the wrong door then you will win so there are two chances that a free to win if you always choose to open the remaining door"- a statistician
  6:54pm noel:

After this show I'm going out to find one of those "Mobile Math Labs"
Avatar 6:55pm ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:

Is this all an analogy as to decide whether or not Ken should be on the show with these two?
  6:55pm kudubundu:

It's almost midnight in the UK. You guys have blown my mind. It's far too late for Maths!
Avatar 6:55pm herb.nyc:

"mobile math labs"? there exists a "Grammar Table", started by Ellen Jovin. I learned about it 3 weeks ago.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:55pm Nick the Bard:

The line is always busy because we're only working with two lines instead of four right now, and judging by the way the calls have been going, even if we HAD four, the lines would be on fire tonight
  6:56pm JakeGould:

So if Nick had 4 phones, and three callers called in…
Avatar 6:56pm leylou:

@JakeGould : WFMU has been doing wonder for my brain since I started listening so ... nothing seems impossible! :D :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:57pm queems:

omg it's not about the one choice! it's about multiple choices. long term goals
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:57pm Smokestack:

I can't believe they made an hour out of this
Avatar 6:57pm ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ:

Can you re-choose your own door?
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm diciassette:

The thing is that IF you are allowed to choose 2 doors your chance of winning is 2/3. Always. Switching doors is the equivalent of that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm dale:

temps has gone from high 20s to 4 in a matter of hours - what are the chances i'll freeze my b*lls off tonight? 1 in 2 or 1 in 3?
  6:58pm JakeGould:

@ᏠЄႶႶỊѺµЄ: That’s like a Yankee Swap.
  6:58pm noel:

Thank god for THC Wax it makes this whole hour I lost important.
  6:58pm tw2sheds:

Maria Vos Savant would be glad to explain it to you...
  6:58pm Karen:

It changes your probability, it doesn’t change what’s actually behind each door. That’s where logic and human minds get confused.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm queems:

this was an excellent show, congrats
  6:58pm kudubundu:

Time for bed. I know which door I am going through!
Avatar 6:58pm herb.nyc:

passed the Internet audition, hilarious!
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:59pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Superman would use his X-ray vision and choose the right one every time.
  7:00pm Sam:

Your first guess is 2/3 chance of being wrong. So 2/3 of the time you should change it, in general.
Avatar 7:02pm leylou:

there you go! Karen explained what was missing in the callers' explanations
  7:02pm Sam:

Would you like to stick with this horrible show, or take a chance on something, anything, else?
Avatar 7:19pm Lawrence:

I was a late caller and said what Karen said: the elimination of one door changes your probability but does not effect what is behind either of the two remaining doors.
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