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Options January 5, 2019: Guest: Dennis Diken of The Smithereens

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Artist Track
Smithereens, The  Something New   Options
Kinks, The  Set Me Free   Options
Robbie Fulks and Linda Gail Lewis  Who Cares?   Options
Parliments, The  I Want To Testify   Options
Smithereens, The  Beauty and Sadness   Options
Beau Brummels, The  Don't Talk To Strangers   Options
Dennis Diken with Bell Sound  The Sun's Gonna Shine in the Morning   Options
Capitan Y Tennillle  Por Amor Viviremos   Options
Dennis Wilson and Rumbo  Sound Of Free   Options
Beach Boys, The  In The Back Of My Mind (Duophonic)   Options
Del Shannon  Show Me   Options
Smithereens, The  Maria Elena   Options
Smithereens, The  All Revved Up   Options
Sleeping Giant  Take My Word   Options

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CLICK HERE Robbie Fulks And Linda Gail Lewis' interview & performance on Fresh Air

CLICK HERE Robbie Fulks & Linda Gail Lewis LIVE & unplugged at Paste studios!

CLICK HERE for interesting photos of closed music clubs

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CLICK HERE to read Michael Shelley's comic "Oh No, It's Tinnitus!"

CLICK HERE for very funny excerpts from a notebook where record store clerks logged "anytime we got a dopey phone call, boneheaded comment, or generally batshit customer experience"

CLICK HERE for Quincy Jones on Paul "the worst bass player I ever heard" McCartney, Michael "stole a lot of stuff" Jackson, Astrology, and who killed Kennedy!

CLICK HERE for "Replacing Ringo? The Story Behind Bernard Purdie and The Beatles"

CLICK HERE for a map, with audio links, to whatever the #1 song is in 3000 places around the world

CLICK HERE for a step-by-step guide to repairing damaged record sleeves

CLICK HERE for testimony given by Taylor Swift in Colorado district court

CLICK HERE to read the four key lessons learned from the Steely Dan estate lawsuit

CLICK HERE for the animated guide to compression

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CLICK HERE for the official "How To Read Nancy" website

CLICK HERE to check out drummer Jim Gordon's discography

CLICK HERE to listen to/download 1000s of digitized 78s

CLICK HERE to watch Robbie Fulks cover NRBQ at FMU

CLICK HERE for selection from the British Library’s extensive collections of unique sound recordings, which cover the entire range of recorded sound: music, drama and literature, oral history, wildlife and environmental sounds

CLICK HERE for an interview with Brian Wilson where he says "Mike Love is probably the greatest lyric writer in the world. I think he’s my favorite lyric writer. He just wrote a lot of good songs"

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CLICK HERE to find out "How the Nashville Number System revolutionized recording sessions"

CLICK HERE for the 1988 piece "Who Does Chuck Berry Think He Is?"

CLICK HERE Cheap Trick on "Live At Daryl's House"

CLICK HERE to hear from the amazing Bob Washington, the voice of K-Tel

CLICK HERE for a new song titled "People Are Disgusting" from Jonathan Richman

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CLICK HERE to listen to a new NPR interview with Brian Wilson

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CLICK HERE for Ringo's isolated drums from "Oh Darling"

CLICK HERE to see some paintings by Jonathan Richman

CLICK HERE for "Rob Freeman Recording The Ramones"

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CLICK HERE to watch The Cactus Blossoms live at WFMU April 18, 2015

CLICK HERE to watch James Hunter sing "Somethings Calling" live at WFMU Dec 7, 2015 - just so so so good

CLICK HERE for a nice piece on former guest on this show (and the drummer for The Beatles) Bernard Purdie

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CLICK HERE for Wilton Felder's so good isolated bass on "I Want You Back"

CLICK HERE to find out "Why Do All Records Sound the Same?

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CLICK HERE to see actual AFM contracts for some legendary recording sessions

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CLICK HERE Foo Fighters with Rick Nielsen doing "Stiff Competition" on David Letterman

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Apparently Bowie offered "Golden Years" to Elvis Presley - but The King declined. CLICK HERE former guest Stevie Riks nails the Elvis/Bowie duet version.

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Listener comments!

Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 11:01am Frank In Queens:

Yes sir!
  11:04am Andrew in Etoboke:

This show will be extra awesome!!!
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 11:08am Hoboken Jack:

Hello Michael, hello Dennis! Thanks for keeping us company on this rainy day.
  11:08am seth from muddy creek:

  11:09am George in WO:

Good morning, Michael and Dennis! Looking forward to this.
  11:09am clarke:

give da drummah some MORE!
  11:09am Andrew in Etoboke:

Hi Michael. Hello Dennis.
  11:10am Diken fan:

  11:10am George in WO:

And good morning, Jack.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11am TheLoneliestMonk:

hey mike!
welcome back, dennis!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13am ChrisB.:

Hi Dennis! Will you be touring with Dave Davies when he comes around this Spring?
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 11:14am Richard:

Question for Dennis: can we look forward to another Bell Sound record?
  11:16am clarke:

Q: when did keith moon get rid of his hi-hat?
  11:18am L W Rhino:

Morning Michael and Dennis,
First saw the Smithereens at the Dirt Club way back when. Fantastic ! Saw you guys many times after that. You guys once sat with me and my friends between sets at the Bitter End . That night you all were on fire playing any and all cover requests that the crowd could call out. Pat once gave my friend Vic a cassette of new songs you were working on at the time. You were and are the best people and musicians!!!!
  11:18am P-90:

Well... if George Clinton says it was the Funk Bros...
Avatar 11:24am twinoak170:

Good morning all.
  11:25am L W Rhino:

Drinking age in NJ went from 18 to 19 in 1981 then went from 19 to 21 in 1983.
Avatar 11:25am twinoak170:

Dave Davies is always around, he lives in New Jersey.
  11:28am Nick in woodbridge:

Dennis: Do you remember driving across country with my mom and drumming on the back of her seat the whole way?
  11:29am clarke:

Sear Sound??
  11:31am TheLoneliestMonk:

just out of curiosity, have many have a physical copy of the beauty & sadness EP?
  11:31am L W Rhino:

Maybe it wasn"t the Bitter End, maybe it was Kenny Castaways. Time plays havoc on the memories...
  11:32am clarke:

all of us
Avatar 11:34am TDK60:

I recall when bands like Smithereens began getting airplay on college radio in the '80s... lotsa new guitar bands-- Big Dipper, REM, Feelies, etc.
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 11:34am Corey:

Morning Michael and Dennis!
  11:36am George in WO:

I love that Bell Sound cd! Brilliant.
  11:37am McGreivey:

I wish Dennis could fit a weekly radio show into his busy schedule! great tunes as always, yous guys
  11:39am L W Rhino:

I voted back in December for the Smithereens to be admitted in the NJ Hall of Fame. I recently nominated Uncle Floyd to be considered in 2019.
  11:39am Bambi Kino HQ:

What McGreivey said!!
  11:40am paul:

Both the Fulks/Lewis and McCartney's latest include a song called Who Cares. I think those were the only new releases I bought in 2018.
Avatar 11:41am TDK60:

I do recall when I first heard Like a Rolling Stone on radio. whoa.
  11:41am Pete in Arlington:

Free parking at the Falls Church show across the street in the Kaiser garage.
  11:41am Joe R.:

The Smithereens were such a foundational band for me - couldn’t wait to turn 21 to see them at the Court Tavern in New Brunswick. Didn’t buy as many records as I wanted to from Jim at Flamin’ Groovies either :) Thanks for the music and memories Dennis (and Michael)!
  11:42am Mike tp:

Dennis a fine musician / drummer.i seen Dennis perform at Charlie bloods in Garfield NJ. you two guise loaded with useful tidbits.thanks guys
  11:42am egould310:

Thanks Dennis for all the great music over the years. Hearing the Smithereens for the first time in 1983 was like waking up from a coma.

Thanks Michael for another great show.
Avatar 11:43am TDK60:

COURT TAVERN??!! I got to play there in '86 (from outta town in an unknown band) and they were so cool, friendly; a great bar, all sorts mixing.
  11:44am paul:

Fun fact: Pat D. replaced me as the voiceover for Bally's Health Club back in the 90s.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46am dale:

saw living color and other bands i forget at the chance. sketchy area back in the 80s.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:48am Jeff formerly from Rahway:

When I was 16 I heard "Blood & Roses" on WNEW or maybe WHTG. I was excited to hear a band from my little corner of NJ. Mom drove me to Sound-A-Rama Records in Rahway to pick up "Especially for You." The inner sleeve contained some other bands on Enigma that I never heard of, namely, Wire and Game Theory. Smithereens were really a gateway band for me as a teenager!
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 11:50am Hughie Considine:

You're right @Dale. I saw a bunch of shows at the Chance during the early 80s and was actually scheduled to interview Sly Stone for my college newspaper. Guess who never showed up.
  11:52am L W Rhino:

Once at a Jill Sobule concert in Montclair, Dennis was in the audience and Jill called him up on stage to drum, which he did ( on a box I think). He happened to have his drumsticks. What a professional!!!
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 11:52am Hughie Considine:

The Captain had intimacy problems. He always slept belowdecks.
  11:55am L W Rhino:

Maybe Daryl had problems raising the main sail.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55am dale:

'bout time we heard some quality music on this station.
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 11:56am Hughie Considine:

Sadly, we're living thru a golden age of obits. Today's Times features a musical trifecta: Honey Lantree of the Honeycombs, Dean Ford of Marmalade, and Dorothy McGuire of the McGuire Sisters.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am Ken From Hyde Park:

I think I was hearing C&T twice an hour on the radio back in the 70s. Repetition radio on the AM.
Avatar 11:57am twinoak170:

Let me translate, Love will keep us together, now that's a pop song.
  11:57am andy fuchs:

how damn cool is this....spanglish Captein E Tonelle :)
Hi Dennis :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am dale:

love....and contractual obligations for the label.
  11:59am darn, Neil Sedaka wrote a song I like:

Mercy Sound Recording, 14th St. near Ave. B ?
  11:59am Bambi Kino HQ:

Daryl Dragon's childhood home in Laurel Canyon was sold to Wally Cox, who sold it to Peter Tork, who sold it to Stephen Stills; the Stones rehearsed their '69 tour there.
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 12:02pm Listener Baby:

Baby! What did I miss?
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 12:02pm Hughie Considine:

If those could talk, @Bambi. Wally Cox was apparently quite a madman!
  12:04pm Bambi Kino HQ:

@Hughie -- the MADDEST!
Avatar 12:04pm twinoak170:

Surfs Up, top 100 song.
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 12:04pm Frank In Queens:

Duophonic means "crap".
  12:06pm Bambi Kino HQ:

second half of "I Am the Walrus" is duophonic
  12:07pm andy fuchs:

I 'think' Duophonic was a record that could be played in stereo as well as mono (what at one time required a special stylus). I think...if not that, it may have been mono PROCESSED to sound sorta like stereo...but not
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 12:09pm Hughie Considine:

J&H Productions had to be on there.
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 12:09pm Frank In Queens:

I mean, if you have a "mono button" on your receiver, then fake stereo or "duophonic" mixes are at least salvageable. But otherwise, yuck.
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 12:10pm Frank In Queens:

But to each their own, of course. Especially if you grew up with certain records sounding that way.
  12:10pm gene sculatti:

Re Robert Christgau: Amen, Dennis!
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 12:11pm Hughie Considine:

“Could you imagine working for a year and you get a B+ from some asshole in the Village Voice?”
  12:11pm Bambi Kino HQ:

The "bomb" symbol from Bob Christgau would be a badge of honor
  12:13pm Paul in the OC:

How to DuoPhon(y)c anything: take mono track, put through delay line and re-record so you have two channels, one slightly delayed for a chorus effect. Add more reverb just for kicks et voila. It's a terrible thing to to a nice ol' mono record (particularly the legacy stuff that Capitol claims in their liner notes to still be worthy) albeit it actually sounds pretty good through a surround system because of all the damn random echo. Andy: you're thinking of compatible stereo, which is every Lp released after about Spring 1968.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:17pm Gaylord Fields:

I happen to know from their producer, Sam Elwitt, that all the New Surfsiders singles are recorded in Duophonic (fake) stereo — true!
  12:19pm adam@sparta:

Dennis! Great to hear you on the air. Happy new year.
Avatar 12:19pm TDK60:

..wow, a guest revolts in the booth at WFMU Towers!
  12:21pm Paul in the OC:

Gaylord: Capitol makes it sound so technical but it's the same "high tech" you use to deliver the souuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul....stice, so you know they're over-selling it!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:22pm Gaylord Fields:

@Paul in the OC: Wow, I'm a pro-du-cer!!!
  12:23pm Diken fan:

He Cheated by Del
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:23pm dale:

this sounds like an alternate take to keep searchin'
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:24pm Gaylord Fields:

@dale: You say that like it's a bad thing.
  12:24pm Christina Low:

Now I need to go down the live recordings of Del Shannon rabbit hole. I love him. There's something about a slightly haunting rock song that gets me every time.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:28pm dale:

no gaylord, it's a great song. even gary lewis and the playboys couldn't hurt it.
  12:28pm Peter K.:

Dennis Diken is the coolest. (And Michael Shelley is a close second.) Great show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:32pm TheLoneliestMonk:

@MS can you ask dennis if there will be any more crenshaw/smithereens dates in '19?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:39pm Tome:

Cool is the word indeed ! always love the Smithereens ,kind of band that just feels good,: ,, metallic , melodic, just raw good rock'n'rolll 'n ' soul,, feels just right all the time !
Avatar 12:42pm twinoak170:

I thought I knew a lot about music until I started listening to WFMU.
  12:44pm Tim from LH:

Dennis, how about bringing Dave Davies to Monty Hall? It would be a great tour tune up!
  12:51pm clarke:

fantastic stuff, guys!!!!
Avatar 12:53pm Ken in Tucson:

Tom Waits was nearly booed off the stage at Red Rocks as a last-minute opener for the Eagles in the mid-70s.
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 12:53pm Frank In Queens:

This has been really great Michael! Dennis is always great on the air.
  12:54pm Andrew in Etoboke:

Awesome show you guys!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:59pm TheLoneliestMonk:

@MS didn't robin let pat use his home studio for 'songs & sounds'?
  5:11pm Mike tp:

Beauty N sadness drums beat harkens to Ringo tomorrow never knows
Avatar #1 Hit Supporter Marathon 2021 Swag For Life Member 11:01am Mike Sin:

Late to the party on this one as I was unable to listen in "real time" on Saturday -- Just catching up on the archive now. This show was great! I very much enjoyed Dennis' recollections and insights.
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