WFMU: Play Vertigo with Mayuko: Playlist from May 19, 2018

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	1:39am Mayuko: www.nytimes.com... When an Erotic Photographer’s Muse Becomes His Critic By Motoko Rich "Last month a model who posed for Nobuyoshi Araki, Japan’s most notorious photographer, accused him of exploiting and bullying her for 16 years. ... In a blog post published in Japanese in early April after “The Incomplete Araki” opened at the Museum of Sex in Manhattan, the model, Kaori — who uses only her first name — said that over their working relationship, Mr. Araki never signed her to a professional contract; ignored her requests for privacy during photo shoots; neglected to inform her when pictures of her were published or displayed; and often did not pay her. 'He treated me like an object,' she wrote."
	1:42am Mayuko: medium.com... By Alisa Yamasaki "This is a translation of a Japanese blog post published on April 1 by KaoRi, renowned photographer Nobuyoshi Araki’s longtime model. ... I wanted to share this powerful firsthand account of mistreatment in the art world because it has been an overlooked subject for far too long, especially when it comes to female models often referred to as “muses.” Profiting off of vulnerable bodies and not compensating models for their time, energy and talent needs to stop."
	♥ 11:42am Jeff Golick: Excellent theme, @ Mayuko. I just read an appreciation of his show at the Museum of Sex that only gingerly alluded to the abuse claims.
	11:52am mzmzzm: regardless you like his style or not I admire his workaholic prolific. gotta watch AKRAKIMENTARI again. the models in that films were all 10!
	11:56am Mayuko: It's not about me personally like his style or not, mzmzzm. It's about basic stuff in human relationship, which is respect for others. I understand some people enjoy his artistic execution, and of course they're entitled to do so.
	11:57am Mayuko: Thanks Jeff! I thought I'd mention this incident since the show is happening here in out city. Probably many people wanna know such information.
	♥ 12:02pm listener james from westwood: Afternoon, Mayuko and all!
	♥ 12:02pm fred: Good afternoon Mayuko and listeners
	♥ 12:02pm northguineahills: Got here on time for once!
	12:02pm Mayuko: Good afternoon to you too, james!
	12:03pm Mayuko: Hallos my radio family fred! Glad to have you here, ngh!!
	12:04pm Dave B: I only briefly cruised thru both articles. Very topical, eye opening and controversial.
	12:05pm mzmzzm: subversive may be in every human nature. If you keep it in constant check would go further underground perhaps may create another victim unnoticed..
	12:05pm Mayuko: Hey Dave, thanks for tuning in!
	♥ 12:06pm tmoyo: Hi Mayuko and listeners!
	♥ 12:06pm fred: KaoRi's story made my blood boil. It's so prevalent in the art world, at all levels. And I mean the emotional manipulation and abuse, not the sexual side, if there's one beyond power being asserted
	♥ 12:07pm northguineahills: The only Kraftwerk album I don't own. (and I have a few more recent ones, but I don't count those).
	12:08pm Dave B: And good afternoon Mayuko! (and Vertizens)
	♥ 12:10pm fred: Not trying to get anyone jealous, but we're getting into ice cream weather over here
	♥ 12:10pm melinda: hi friends
	12:13pm Mayuko: @mzmzzm that's an interesting point, let me think and I'll try respond on mic. Hallos tmoyo! and melinda! Thanks for tuning in!
	12:14pm Dave B: The following is not in any attempt at consolation, but I am kind of glad that this old school boys club is getting its head handed to it. Working in an industry that for far too long was all about the "casting couch", I am glad to see the rug pulled from under the creepy scumbags that rose to the top. From a cultural standpoint I hope that the same empowerment will carry forward to places that some might not feel as emboldened due to centuries of "cultural norms".
	♥ 12:16pm fred: @mzmzzm: By now there have been so many unnoticed victims that I think it's time to try something else
	♥ 12:17pm Brach: good day!
	12:17pm Amelia: Hi everyone! Thanks for sharing the story, Mayuko!
	12:18pm Mayuko: @fred that was exactly my first thought too.
	12:18pm Mayuko: Thanks for tuning in, Brach, and Amelia!
	♥ 12:19pm melinda: What a slimebag.
	♥ 12:22pm northguineahills: What everyone else said....
	♥ 12:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, all. How awful to hear of this story. I hope this brings about change so such a thing no longer happens.
	♥ 12:24pm fred: Believe it or not, I served as a "muse" to an amateur choreographer for a couple of years before realizing she was emotionally manipulating me. This show's title is a pretty close translation of what I told her when I figured it out and burned bridges with her. So I know how part of this works
	♥ 12:24pm Brian in UK: Hello Mayuko and cool cats. It is a dilemma. I have enjoyed Bill Cosby's monologues from the late Sixties for ever it seems. Do I now not listen to them, are they no longer funny?
	12:24pm rbrt: I was thinking in my head the last three tracks...yoko Ono...lol
	♥ 12:25pm northguineahills: I think I've told this story before, but a friend of mine saw Afrirampo about 2004 a few times when they were NYC. He then visited them in Japan that summer. He got some good videos of them, and of some cool Shinto festivals.
	♥ 12:25pm fred: Nice, I've been on a Yoko trip lately. Fly is such a great record
	♥ 12:25pm northguineahills: Yoko! (and loud!)
	12:26pm mzmzzm: the outlet for victims, yes. censoring activities altogether, no.
	♥ 12:28pm northguineahills: @Brian: Well, that's a tough one. I always tried to seperate the artist from their personality (ie: Miles Davis). Can he (Bill) profit from any royalties while in jail from you usage? If so, no. If can circumvent that, sure.
	♥ 12:29pm fred: @ngh: So jealous. I love Afrirampo, and was so happy to see them again last year. I saw one of them after their set, but couldn't find the guts to talk to her (you'd think my expanding middle-age gut would help, but no)
	12:30pm Mayuko: @mzmzzm Nobody is censoring anything. In fact there have been no problem for him to publish his work. He hasn't done anything illegal and he's not getting punished. Nobody is seeking to punish him. All KaoRi is saying is that she wants to be treated like a human, not an object. "Please strive for a complementary relationship of supporting each other" is what she writes.
	♥ 12:30pm fred: Phew!!!
	♥ 12:30pm northguineahills: Are we not vertiginauts? (thinking names for us listeners)
	12:30pm Amelia: this is just what i need to hear right now
	12:31pm Mayuko: Hi Brian in UK, and rbrt!! And Ken! Thank you for tuning in.
	♥ 12:31pm fred: @ngh: Master Doug calls us Playverts
	12:32pm rbrt: hi hi
	♥ 12:32pm Brian in UK: @fred what is that line about not meeting your heroes? Tongue-tied is the expression over here.
	12:33pm Mayuko: @fred manipulation and abuse sure can happen from woman to man too, it's never one way street!
	♥ 12:35pm fred: @Brian: I plead guilty. I had two opportunities to meet Cynthia Loemij, and I chickened out twice. I just don't know what I could tell her that wouldn't be ridiculous
	♥ 12:36pm tmoyo: Just read the blog. Truly horrifying.
	12:36pm Dave B: @NGH - Vertizens ©
	♥ 12:37pm melinda: I think whether or not we separate the art from the artist's misdeeds is an individual thing.
	12:37pm mzmzzm: once again that was his style depicting her as human flesh but there were something humanity beyond that thou apparently the model was taking it from another angle.
	12:38pm JakeGould: Hey Mayuko!
	12:38pm Mayuko: The conclusion seems to be it's best never get to know artist personally, haha!
	12:41pm Dave B: and/or - get it in writing.
	12:41pm Mayuko: mzmzzm, did you even read her post? he didn't pay her when he should have, published her photos without her permission, making money and fame off of her photos, bullying her at work. None of them are "illegal', but the question is do you respect that? Do you value that? This is about a relationship in a work environment. Nobody's talking about his "art".
	12:41pm JakeGould: Thanks to the Internet, I’m learning more and more of the backstories of artists and there’s always some crap… Except for Matisse, Miro and Doisneau. Those are artists I have read up about recently and impressed how their careers only really started when they were older. Well, maybe not Miro.
	♥ 12:42pm Brian in UK: Is this Frederick Delius sampling? Maybe not. It is Delius' time of year though. 'On Hearing the First Cuckoo in Spring' etc.
	12:43pm mzmzzm: Matisse overrated imo
	12:44pm Mayuko: Hellos JakeGould! The conclusion seems to be it's best stay away from artists themselves, and only look at art, haha.
	12:44pm P-90: こにちわ Dizzy-Gamers and Heron-Spotters!
	♥ 12:44pm fred: @mzmzzm: I don't know his art. I'm just saying his attitude is toxic, and I'm not even interested in his case. This stuff is all too common in the art world. I'm all for keeping the art, but that vibe has to go flat
	♥ 12:45pm Brian in UK: Mayuko Just repaired two wheelbarrows in the sunshine. If I had been listening to your show at the time I might not have been so ratty doing it.
	12:45pm rw: Hello! Still reading through the posted article. It's pretty interesting to hear about the evolution of that relationship. I'm not sure I'm ready to condemn ALL artists just yet...
	♥ 12:46pm Brian in UK: This music is making me want to watch a Kurosawa film.
	♥ 12:47pm northguineahills: When Karen O from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs stepped up to dance w/ me, I got so flustered, I ran away after a minute (d'oh!). However, I did talk to Rachel Gosling after a Mojave 3 show and actually talked to her and before I left, she gave me a kiss on the cheek (I almost fainted).
	12:48pm mzmzzm: but that was her management capacity, wasn't it? whither that was herself or outsourced.
	♥ 12:48pm fred: It's not about condemning art or artists, but abuse. I hope there's a difference
	12:48pm JakeGould: Well, depends on the artist! I mention Matisse, Miro and Doisneau because those are artists whose backgrounds I recently got into. Miro was most recent and interesting since he’s Spanish and has an odd Jewish background that goes back to the Spanish Inquisition in the 1300s.
	♥ 12:48pm Brian in UK: @ngh by the sound of it this is a distant memory!!!!
	12:53pm JakeGould: Well, regarding rights and photos… You know if you like any street photographers like Weegee, Ruth Orkin or Helen Levitt realize they profited from the images of people who—most of the time—had no say in anything.
	♥ 12:54pm Brian in UK: Funny how you never see indoctrination and religion in the same room.
	♥ 12:55pm fred: I also never got his art, felt it creepy. Now I can feel all righteous about it, which isn't ideal
	♥ 12:55pm northguineahills: @Brian: Yeah, the former happened 14 years, the latter 13 years, @Mayuko: My friend Keiko shares the same sentiment, and why she's been in NYC for the last 20 years.
	♥ 12:56pm northguineahills: @fred@12:48: what you said.
	♥ 12:57pm fred: That statement from KaoRi should be etched in granite monuments in public parks all over the world
	12:58pm Dave B: @Jake - the difference being, I don't think any of those street photogs subjugated their models for 15+ years.
	♥ 12:59pm northguineahills: But when the artist is decent loving human being (special people of the universe, I call them), then it makes you love their art even more.
	12:59pm JakeGould: In other news, why isn’t anyone talking about how rainy it is in NY/NJ. So rainy!
	1:00pm P-90: I got here in time to hear the first-ever discussion of S+M on Play Vertigo!
	♥ 1:01pm Brian in UK: Hate to leave but a dog walk looms. Say Cartier-Bresson, Lartigue or Ara Guler were recording what they saw 'at that moment'. Agree with Dave B.
	♥ 1:01pm northguineahills: It's been raining down here since Monday.
	♥ 1:02pm david w: I'm really in awe of Mayuko, and all of you are amazing.
	♥ 1:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: I can report that it's currently raining in Poughkeepsie, NY. Having a soggy time at my nephew's graduation from Marist College.
	♥ 1:03pm Dropof Goldensun: Hey there! First time listener of your show. Good stuff!
	♥ 1:06pm fred: PE!!!
	♥ 1:07pm listener james from westwood: The PE!
	1:09pm JakeGould: So much rain!
	♥ 1:09pm fred: (I'm such a fake fan: I had a chance to see them, for it was too expensive for me, the price of 5 shows featuring unknown people)
	1:12pm Joe: First time commenter. I love the thematic coherence of Play Vertigo, and today's theme feels especially timely. I never did get the art world obsession with Araki either. Thanks for all the music and observations, Mayuko!
	♥ 1:13pm Ike: It's raining so much that I'm inside instead of going to a food festival! That's a lot of rain. It's raining so much that my friend who is on vacation in Scotland is getting less rain! A lot less. That's really saying something!
	♥ 1:14pm fred: re PE: That record actually changed my live in college: I'd probably be in finance without it. Because I loved it, I meant weirdos and immigrant activists who eventually accepted me because of my mixed race family, which let me to interesting places
	♥ 1:16pm fred: @Ike: He gets less rain, you get less whisky. How is that fair?
	1:17pm Mayuko: @ngh @12:55 I'm pretty sure MANY Japanese women in NYC share the same sentiment with me!
	1:17pm Dave B: When you really think about it, the noun "muse" is creepy in its own right.
	1:18pm Mayuko: Hola rw, Glad to have you here! And P-90! Not that I'm part of that industry, haha.
	1:18pm Mayuko: Happy dog-walking, Brian in UK!
	1:19pm Mayuko: Thanks for listening, david w!
	♥ 1:19pm doctorjazz: Hi, just dropped in (busy at work), nice Stevie Wonder. Comment board looks interesting, catchup in a bit.
	♥ 1:19pm fred: @Dave B: and the band "muse" is hardly better
	1:20pm Mayuko: Dropof Goldensun, WELCOME! Thank you for tuning in!!
	1:20pm rw: I'd just like to reiterate what david w said. Play Vertigo rules.
	♥ 1:21pm Ike: Not being much of a drinker, I'm happy to take less whisky than her, as long as I can also have less rain! Although I'm a bit jealous that she won the Scotland "rain lottery" as I call it. That is, traveling to the UK is a real gamble. I really want to go see Scotland but I'm sure it'll rain if I do!
	1:22pm rw: And we could use a little of that rain out here in CA. My lawn is kind of an eyesore and I can't bring myself to dump water on it.
	♥ 1:24pm fred: @Ike: You should taste the real stuff. It might be strong, but even at 120 proof it's not about getting drunk
	♥ 1:25pm Doug Schulkind: Scintillating sounds, Mayuko! As usual!
	1:25pm Mayuko: Thank you for your kind words, Joe! Glad I wasn't alone, haha!
	♥ 1:25pm Sem: Hello, Mayuko, those who play w/vertigo, and all. Even Doug, the smartypants.
	1:25pm Mayuko: What food festival, Ike? Around here?
	♥ 1:26pm fred: Master Doug! Are you missing school yet?
	♥ 1:26pm coelacanth∅: greetings Mayuko, Mayuklings
	♥ 1:27pm listener james from westwood: Love this Lionmilk.
	♥ 1:28pm Doug Schulkind: Not missing school at all!!
	♥ 1:28pm listener james from westwood: Oh, wow, Willy Wonka!
	1:28pm JakeGould: Whiskey is about getting drunk.
	1:29pm Dave B: Eno & Microsoft on that opening sample
	1:29pm Dave B: mentalfloss.com...
	1:29pm Mayuko: Hellos, doctorjazz! Stevie Wonder IS the genius. Welcome, Doug, sir!!!
	1:30pm JakeGould: Beer is not about the tasting. It’s about getting drunk. Wine is not about the tasting. It’s about getting drunk. Don’t let artisanal foodies fool you: It’s about getting drunk.
	1:30pm Mayuko: Welcome on board, Sem, and coelacanth∅!
	1:32pm Dave B: Artisanal = art is anal
	1:32pm JakeGould: @DaveB: Doughnuts are donuts but with an “ugh” in the middle.
	♥ 1:33pm Ike: @Mayuko, there are lots of them this weekend and many are listed as "rain or shine" but there are no clear standouts. There's a Korean one in upper Manhattan, the big Ninth Ave. and Park Slope ones (I'm always dubious of these really big ones -- might be a lot of funnel cake and tube socks), and others: www.eatingintranslation.com... (Scroll down to Sat. & Sun.)
	1:33pm Dave B: donuts spelled backwards is stunod
	♥ 1:34pm Dropof Goldensun: I just started a new gig where I'll be working Saturdays so I'm glad I found your show. I wish it was more than two hours!
	1:34pm Dave B: and you can't spell "sausage" without USA!
	♥ 1:35pm fred: @JakeGould: Fine whisky isn't about getting drunk, it's too expensive. Unless you're rich, I guess. I had a job recruiting pitch when the suitor pulled out a bottle of Port Ellen. We drained it, I signed on
	♥ 1:35pm Ike: Does anyone else remember when DJ Kenny G played that Windows startup theme on a loop for about 45 minutes once? That was great! I was at work and it made my boss so mad!
	1:35pm JakeGould: Sausage without USA is just sage!
	1:36pm Mayuko: Donuts are never ugh!!!!!!
	♥ 1:36pm Dropof Goldensun: @Ike: That's great! I missed that. haha
	♥ 1:36pm fred: @Dropof Goldensun: More than two hours? I'm all for it!
	♥ 1:37pm Ike: @Jake, we could use a lot more sage, and we could stand to be a lot more sage! Let's become SAGE instead of the USA! The, uh, States Against Gunking up Everything, maybe?
	1:37pm JakeGould: Maybe I will open a donut stand with a sign that reads: “DONUTS: We take the ‘ugh’ out of donuts.”
	1:37pm Dave B: @Ike - in that Mental Floss article they link to a W95 startup sound time stretched x23: youtu.be...
	1:38pm JakeGould: @Ike: Whenever I think about the USA nowadays I get a brain clenching moment.
	♥ 1:40pm Ike: And re: the food fests, when they say "rain or shine", do they really mean THIS much rain, I wonder?!
	1:40pm JakeGould: Maybe sage would help? Like some old hippie lady burning a small bundle of sage.
	1:40pm Mayuko: I hope you won't disappoint, Dropof Goldensun... usually my show is less-ranting, and perhaps more noises? haha.
	♥ 1:41pm fred: Sometimes ranting is overdue
	♥ 1:43pm Dropof Goldensun: I like the noises, and the ranting. I guess only time will tell. ;)
	1:44pm mzmzzm: i apologize if Im boiling it up but listen to ざんげの値打ちもない. Araki's came from that era I suppose.
	1:44pm JakeGould: @Ike: FWIW, the Park Slope 5th Avenue fest is not so bad. It’s definitely a street fair. But at least there are some decent restaurants on that strip that sell stuff at the fair then.
	1:46pm mzmzzm: Meiko Kaji rendition's better than the original imo.
	♥ 1:47pm fred: Too many established artists exploit aspiring ones, and this does trickle down. This might be the traditional way, but that isn't the kind of mentoring that nurtures both parties. It's a waste of talent, even if you don't mind the hurt
	♥ 1:47pm Ike: @Jake, good to know. There was some pretty solid stuff in the 7th Ave. one once, too.
	1:49pm Mayuko: @fred yes! NYC has taught me HOW TO RANT, haha. That, they never teach you in Japan. Even though I was always angry and it was indeed overdue! Ranting is a skill you have to learn.
	1:50pm Mayuko: @mzmzzm always good to have an opinion from different angle! Araki's indeed from THAT era, though, that I hope will end soon.
	♥ 1:52pm tmoyo: All this time was thinking about being a female in Japan or for that matter in any place in the world. It was never comfortable for me. Actually, gender neutrality is my thing. I was never comfortable being seen as a woman, not that I want to become a man (although i wanted to when I was a child). I've always wondered if this feeling comes from the aversion of being objectified / being expected to behave submissively. I love your rants Mayuko! Keep it up! I'll try to do that here in Japan too... Have to become more articulate tho.
	1:53pm JakeGould: @Ike: If you go, I would recommend focusing on the areas between 9th Street and 3rd Street. And then maybe from Union Street down to where the big Key Food with a parking lot is. Definitely some good stuff
	1:54pm Mayuko: @mzm And re: her management, I do think young people should take more active move and be their own bosses right from the start - rather than trying to be "found" by established artists (that are often old men, in Japan.) Which is what Kaori is saying too. However, nothing excuses people in the power exploiting, taking advantage of inexperienced people. That is just not cool and I condemn that.
	♥ 1:56pm Brian in UK: Too hot for a long dog walk. The bright yellow of the oil seed rape fields are stunning in the sunshine.
	1:58pm Mayuko: @tmoyo I share so many of that sentiments with you!
	♥ 1:58pm Brian in UK: Mayuko thanks for the stimulation of the mind. Oh, and the music!!
	♥ 1:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mayuko. Stay dry!
	1:59pm rw: I've been thinking about the world my kids and their generation are entering and creating. Not that I have any clear ideas of what it will be like but I do have hope and faith! Discussions like this one are incredibly important. Thanks again Mayuko!
	♥ 2:01pm Jeff Golick: Many thanks for the ranting and music!
	♥ 2:04pm tmoyo: Thanks Mayuko!
	♥ 2:06pm Dropof Goldensun: Siouxsie Sioux! Great show, Mayuko! Thanks. Looking forward to more!
	2:06pm Mayuko: Thanks again everyone for listening!!! See you all next week!
	2:06pm rw: tmoyo, Rant on!
	♥ 2:07pm fred: Fitting closing track, "too much exposure". Thanks Mayuko, especially today. The topic was personal to me, and you made it work
	♥ 2:07pm Ivan: Thanks Mayuko! Great show!
	♥ 2:08pm listener james from westwood: thanks, Mayuko!
	♥ 2:08pm coelacanth∅: Thank you Mayuko!
	2:08pm Mayuko: Hey Ivan! Thanks!!
	2:08pm Joe: Thanks Mayuko and commenters!
	2:10pm Mayuko: It was a pleasure having all of you here! See you next week.
	♥ 2:38pm fred: I think I've proven myself guilty of mansplaining a few times in this show, which was doubly bad I'll be away next week, not out of shame, but trying to get prime tickets for next year's dance season
	3:28pm Mayuko: @fred I don't think I saw such thing? Your thoughts and comments are clearly always welcomed! Good luck re: tix!
	7:06pm Mayuko: (I kinda stole today's show title from Daniel Blumin's "Your Song, My Foot!" WFMU marathon premium - check it out at our store! wfmu.store...)

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May 19, 2018: Your "Muse", My Ass

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Wir	Looking at me (Stop!) "Looking at me (Stop!)" by "Wir"	The First Letter	Mute	1991		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Kraftwerk	Sex Object "Sex Object" by "Kraftwerk"	Electric Café	EMI	1986		0:04:23 (Pop-up)
PJ Harvey	Chain Of Keys "Chain Of Keys" by "PJ Harvey"	The Hope Six Demolition Project	Island	2016		0:11:14 (Pop-up)
Tenko 天鼓	Guitars II "Guitars II" by "Tenko 天鼓"	Slope - Gradual Disappearance	RecRec Music	1987		0:14:13 (Pop-up)
James Chance & the Contortions	Contort Yourself	Buy	Columbia	1979		0:16:53 (Pop-up)
Afrirampo あふりらんぽ	I Am Bird	Kore Ga Mayaku Da	Tzadik	2005		0:21:17 (Pop-up)
Yoko Ono	Mind Holes "Mind Holes" by "Yoko Ono"	Fly	Secretly Canadian	2017	Original 1971	0:22:45 (Pop-up)
Phew	Sonic Morning 音の朝 "Sonic Morning 音の朝" by "Phew"	Voice Hardcore	Mesh-Key	2018		0:25:47 (Pop-up)
Sugai Ken	Tsukuda 佃 "Tsukuda 佃" by "Sugai Ken"	Tele-n-tech-da てれんてくだ	Discrepant	2018		0:34:02 (Pop-up)
Toshi Ichiyanagi 一柳慧	Spite Song (Onka 1969)	Opera From The Works of Tadanori Yokoo オペラ横尾忠則を歌う	Bridge	2005	Original 1969	0:36:10 (Pop-up)
Noriko Awaya 淡谷のり子	Hika 悲歌	淡谷のり子名唱集3	Nippon Columbia	1993		0:42:57 (Pop-up)

Public Enemy	Don't Believe The Hype	It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back	Def Jam	1988		1:06:33 (Pop-up)
Sly & The Family Stone	Brave & Strong	There's A Riot Going On	Epic	1971		1:11:50 (Pop-up)
Stevie Wonder	Black Man "Black Man" by "Stevie Wonder"	Songs In The Key Of Life	Motown	1976		1:15:16 (Pop-up)
Lionmilk	Morning Insense "Morning Insense" by "Lionmilk"	Depths Of Madness	Paxico	2018		1:23:29 (Pop-up)
Sam Gendel	Pure Imagination "Pure Imagination" by "Sam Gendel"		Leaving	2018		1:27:51 (Pop-up)
Erykah Badu	Out My Mind, Just In Time	New Amerykah: Part Two (Return Of The Ankh)	Universal Motown	2010		1:33:38 (Pop-up)
Lucrecia Dalt	Tar "Tar" by "Lucrecia Dalt"	Anticlines	RVNGIntl.	2018	https://lucreciadalt.bandcamp.com/album/anticlines A portion of the proceeds from your purchase will be charitably designated on behalf of Lucrecia Dalt to Tierra Digna, an organization dedicated to the defense of Colombian communities affected by economic policies that violate human rights and devastate the environment. tierradigna.org	1:43:05 (Pop-up)
Ingleton Falls	Mind Yer Head "Mind Yer Head" by "Ingleton Falls"	Champagne In Mozambique	Isle Of Jura	2017		1:47:41 (Pop-up)

Siouxsie And The Banshees	Red Light	Kaleidoscope	Polydor	1980		2:04:51 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	1:39am Mayuko: www.nytimes.com... When an Erotic Photographer’s Muse Becomes His Critic By Motoko Rich "Last month a model who posed for Nobuyoshi Araki, Japan’s most notorious photographer, accused him of exploiting and bullying her for 16 years. ... In a blog post published in Japanese in early April after “The Incomplete Araki” opened at the Museum of Sex in Manhattan, the model, Kaori — who uses only her first name — said that over their working relationship, Mr. Araki never signed her to a professional contract; ignored her requests for privacy during photo shoots; neglected to inform her when pictures of her were published or displayed; and often did not pay her. 'He treated me like an object,' she wrote."
	1:42am Mayuko: medium.com... By Alisa Yamasaki "This is a translation of a Japanese blog post published on April 1 by KaoRi, renowned photographer Nobuyoshi Araki’s longtime model. ... I wanted to share this powerful firsthand account of mistreatment in the art world because it has been an overlooked subject for far too long, especially when it comes to female models often referred to as “muses.” Profiting off of vulnerable bodies and not compensating models for their time, energy and talent needs to stop."
	♥ 11:42am Jeff Golick: Excellent theme, @ Mayuko. I just read an appreciation of his show at the Museum of Sex that only gingerly alluded to the abuse claims.
	11:52am mzmzzm: regardless you like his style or not I admire his workaholic prolific. gotta watch AKRAKIMENTARI again. the models in that films were all 10!
	11:56am Mayuko: It's not about me personally like his style or not, mzmzzm. It's about basic stuff in human relationship, which is respect for others. I understand some people enjoy his artistic execution, and of course they're entitled to do so.
	11:57am Mayuko: Thanks Jeff! I thought I'd mention this incident since the show is happening here in out city. Probably many people wanna know such information.
	♥ 12:02pm listener james from westwood: Afternoon, Mayuko and all!
	♥ 12:02pm fred: Good afternoon Mayuko and listeners
	♥ 12:02pm northguineahills: Got here on time for once!
	12:02pm Mayuko: Good afternoon to you too, james!
	12:03pm Mayuko: Hallos my radio family fred! Glad to have you here, ngh!!
	12:04pm Dave B: I only briefly cruised thru both articles. Very topical, eye opening and controversial.
	12:05pm mzmzzm: subversive may be in every human nature. If you keep it in constant check would go further underground perhaps may create another victim unnoticed..
	12:05pm Mayuko: Hey Dave, thanks for tuning in!
	♥ 12:06pm tmoyo: Hi Mayuko and listeners!
	♥ 12:06pm fred: KaoRi's story made my blood boil. It's so prevalent in the art world, at all levels. And I mean the emotional manipulation and abuse, not the sexual side, if there's one beyond power being asserted
	♥ 12:07pm northguineahills: The only Kraftwerk album I don't own. (and I have a few more recent ones, but I don't count those).
	12:08pm Dave B: And good afternoon Mayuko! (and Vertizens)
	♥ 12:10pm fred: Not trying to get anyone jealous, but we're getting into ice cream weather over here
	♥ 12:10pm melinda: hi friends
	12:13pm Mayuko: @mzmzzm that's an interesting point, let me think and I'll try respond on mic. Hallos tmoyo! and melinda! Thanks for tuning in!
	12:14pm Dave B: The following is not in any attempt at consolation, but I am kind of glad that this old school boys club is getting its head handed to it. Working in an industry that for far too long was all about the "casting couch", I am glad to see the rug pulled from under the creepy scumbags that rose to the top. From a cultural standpoint I hope that the same empowerment will carry forward to places that some might not feel as emboldened due to centuries of "cultural norms".
	♥ 12:16pm fred: @mzmzzm: By now there have been so many unnoticed victims that I think it's time to try something else
	♥ 12:17pm Brach: good day!
	12:17pm Amelia: Hi everyone! Thanks for sharing the story, Mayuko!
	12:18pm Mayuko: @fred that was exactly my first thought too.
	12:18pm Mayuko: Thanks for tuning in, Brach, and Amelia!
	♥ 12:19pm melinda: What a slimebag.
	♥ 12:22pm northguineahills: What everyone else said....
	♥ 12:23pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hi, all. How awful to hear of this story. I hope this brings about change so such a thing no longer happens.
	♥ 12:24pm fred: Believe it or not, I served as a "muse" to an amateur choreographer for a couple of years before realizing she was emotionally manipulating me. This show's title is a pretty close translation of what I told her when I figured it out and burned bridges with her. So I know how part of this works
	♥ 12:24pm Brian in UK: Hello Mayuko and cool cats. It is a dilemma. I have enjoyed Bill Cosby's monologues from the late Sixties for ever it seems. Do I now not listen to them, are they no longer funny?
	12:24pm rbrt: I was thinking in my head the last three tracks...yoko Ono...lol
	♥ 12:25pm northguineahills: I think I've told this story before, but a friend of mine saw Afrirampo about 2004 a few times when they were NYC. He then visited them in Japan that summer. He got some good videos of them, and of some cool Shinto festivals.
	♥ 12:25pm fred: Nice, I've been on a Yoko trip lately. Fly is such a great record
	♥ 12:25pm northguineahills: Yoko! (and loud!)
	12:26pm mzmzzm: the outlet for victims, yes. censoring activities altogether, no.
	♥ 12:28pm northguineahills: @Brian: Well, that's a tough one. I always tried to seperate the artist from their personality (ie: Miles Davis). Can he (Bill) profit from any royalties while in jail from you usage? If so, no. If can circumvent that, sure.
	♥ 12:29pm fred: @ngh: So jealous. I love Afrirampo, and was so happy to see them again last year. I saw one of them after their set, but couldn't find the guts to talk to her (you'd think my expanding middle-age gut would help, but no)
	12:30pm Mayuko: @mzmzzm Nobody is censoring anything. In fact there have been no problem for him to publish his work. He hasn't done anything illegal and he's not getting punished. Nobody is seeking to punish him. All KaoRi is saying is that she wants to be treated like a human, not an object. "Please strive for a complementary relationship of supporting each other" is what she writes.
	♥ 12:30pm fred: Phew!!!
	♥ 12:30pm northguineahills: Are we not vertiginauts? (thinking names for us listeners)
	12:30pm Amelia: this is just what i need to hear right now
	12:31pm Mayuko: Hi Brian in UK, and rbrt!! And Ken! Thank you for tuning in.
	♥ 12:31pm fred: @ngh: Master Doug calls us Playverts
	12:32pm rbrt: hi hi
	♥ 12:32pm Brian in UK: @fred what is that line about not meeting your heroes? Tongue-tied is the expression over here.
	12:33pm Mayuko: @fred manipulation and abuse sure can happen from woman to man too, it's never one way street!
	♥ 12:35pm fred: @Brian: I plead guilty. I had two opportunities to meet Cynthia Loemij, and I chickened out twice. I just don't know what I could tell her that wouldn't be ridiculous
	♥ 12:36pm tmoyo: Just read the blog. Truly horrifying.
	12:36pm Dave B: @NGH - Vertizens ©
	♥ 12:37pm melinda: I think whether or not we separate the art from the artist's misdeeds is an individual thing.
	12:37pm mzmzzm: once again that was his style depicting her as human flesh but there were something humanity beyond that thou apparently the model was taking it from another angle.
	12:38pm JakeGould: Hey Mayuko!
	12:38pm Mayuko: The conclusion seems to be it's best never get to know artist personally, haha!
	12:41pm Dave B: and/or - get it in writing.
	12:41pm Mayuko: mzmzzm, did you even read her post? he didn't pay her when he should have, published her photos without her permission, making money and fame off of her photos, bullying her at work. None of them are "illegal', but the question is do you respect that? Do you value that? This is about a relationship in a work environment. Nobody's talking about his "art".
	12:41pm JakeGould: Thanks to the Internet, I’m learning more and more of the backstories of artists and there’s always some crap… Except for Matisse, Miro and Doisneau. Those are artists I have read up about recently and impressed how their careers only really started when they were older. Well, maybe not Miro.
	♥ 12:42pm Brian in UK: Is this Frederick Delius sampling? Maybe not. It is Delius' time of year though. 'On Hearing the First Cuckoo in Spring' etc.
	12:43pm mzmzzm: Matisse overrated imo
	12:44pm Mayuko: Hellos JakeGould! The conclusion seems to be it's best stay away from artists themselves, and only look at art, haha.
	12:44pm P-90: こにちわ Dizzy-Gamers and Heron-Spotters!
	♥ 12:44pm fred: @mzmzzm: I don't know his art. I'm just saying his attitude is toxic, and I'm not even interested in his case. This stuff is all too common in the art world. I'm all for keeping the art, but that vibe has to go flat
	♥ 12:45pm Brian in UK: Mayuko Just repaired two wheelbarrows in the sunshine. If I had been listening to your show at the time I might not have been so ratty doing it.
	12:45pm rw: Hello! Still reading through the posted article. It's pretty interesting to hear about the evolution of that relationship. I'm not sure I'm ready to condemn ALL artists just yet...
	♥ 12:46pm Brian in UK: This music is making me want to watch a Kurosawa film.
	♥ 12:47pm northguineahills: When Karen O from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs stepped up to dance w/ me, I got so flustered, I ran away after a minute (d'oh!). However, I did talk to Rachel Gosling after a Mojave 3 show and actually talked to her and before I left, she gave me a kiss on the cheek (I almost fainted).
	12:48pm mzmzzm: but that was her management capacity, wasn't it? whither that was herself or outsourced.
	♥ 12:48pm fred: It's not about condemning art or artists, but abuse. I hope there's a difference
	12:48pm JakeGould: Well, depends on the artist! I mention Matisse, Miro and Doisneau because those are artists whose backgrounds I recently got into. Miro was most recent and interesting since he’s Spanish and has an odd Jewish background that goes back to the Spanish Inquisition in the 1300s.
	♥ 12:48pm Brian in UK: @ngh by the sound of it this is a distant memory!!!!
	12:53pm JakeGould: Well, regarding rights and photos… You know if you like any street photographers like Weegee, Ruth Orkin or Helen Levitt realize they profited from the images of people who—most of the time—had no say in anything.
	♥ 12:54pm Brian in UK: Funny how you never see indoctrination and religion in the same room.
	♥ 12:55pm fred: I also never got his art, felt it creepy. Now I can feel all righteous about it, which isn't ideal
	♥ 12:55pm northguineahills: @Brian: Yeah, the former happened 14 years, the latter 13 years, @Mayuko: My friend Keiko shares the same sentiment, and why she's been in NYC for the last 20 years.
	♥ 12:56pm northguineahills: @fred@12:48: what you said.
	♥ 12:57pm fred: That statement from KaoRi should be etched in granite monuments in public parks all over the world
	12:58pm Dave B: @Jake - the difference being, I don't think any of those street photogs subjugated their models for 15+ years.
	♥ 12:59pm northguineahills: But when the artist is decent loving human being (special people of the universe, I call them), then it makes you love their art even more.
	12:59pm JakeGould: In other news, why isn’t anyone talking about how rainy it is in NY/NJ. So rainy!
	1:00pm P-90: I got here in time to hear the first-ever discussion of S+M on Play Vertigo!
	♥ 1:01pm Brian in UK: Hate to leave but a dog walk looms. Say Cartier-Bresson, Lartigue or Ara Guler were recording what they saw 'at that moment'. Agree with Dave B.
	♥ 1:01pm northguineahills: It's been raining down here since Monday.
	♥ 1:02pm david w: I'm really in awe of Mayuko, and all of you are amazing.
	♥ 1:02pm Ken From Hyde Park: I can report that it's currently raining in Poughkeepsie, NY. Having a soggy time at my nephew's graduation from Marist College.
	♥ 1:03pm Dropof Goldensun: Hey there! First time listener of your show. Good stuff!
	♥ 1:06pm fred: PE!!!
	♥ 1:07pm listener james from westwood: The PE!
	1:09pm JakeGould: So much rain!
	♥ 1:09pm fred: (I'm such a fake fan: I had a chance to see them, for it was too expensive for me, the price of 5 shows featuring unknown people)
	1:12pm Joe: First time commenter. I love the thematic coherence of Play Vertigo, and today's theme feels especially timely. I never did get the art world obsession with Araki either. Thanks for all the music and observations, Mayuko!
	♥ 1:13pm Ike: It's raining so much that I'm inside instead of going to a food festival! That's a lot of rain. It's raining so much that my friend who is on vacation in Scotland is getting less rain! A lot less. That's really saying something!
	♥ 1:14pm fred: re PE: That record actually changed my live in college: I'd probably be in finance without it. Because I loved it, I meant weirdos and immigrant activists who eventually accepted me because of my mixed race family, which let me to interesting places
	♥ 1:16pm fred: @Ike: He gets less rain, you get less whisky. How is that fair?
	1:17pm Mayuko: @ngh @12:55 I'm pretty sure MANY Japanese women in NYC share the same sentiment with me!
	1:17pm Dave B: When you really think about it, the noun "muse" is creepy in its own right.
	1:18pm Mayuko: Hola rw, Glad to have you here! And P-90! Not that I'm part of that industry, haha.
	1:18pm Mayuko: Happy dog-walking, Brian in UK!
	1:19pm Mayuko: Thanks for listening, david w!
	♥ 1:19pm doctorjazz: Hi, just dropped in (busy at work), nice Stevie Wonder. Comment board looks interesting, catchup in a bit.
	♥ 1:19pm fred: @Dave B: and the band "muse" is hardly better
	1:20pm Mayuko: Dropof Goldensun, WELCOME! Thank you for tuning in!!
	1:20pm rw: I'd just like to reiterate what david w said. Play Vertigo rules.
	♥ 1:21pm Ike: Not being much of a drinker, I'm happy to take less whisky than her, as long as I can also have less rain! Although I'm a bit jealous that she won the Scotland "rain lottery" as I call it. That is, traveling to the UK is a real gamble. I really want to go see Scotland but I'm sure it'll rain if I do!
	1:22pm rw: And we could use a little of that rain out here in CA. My lawn is kind of an eyesore and I can't bring myself to dump water on it.
	♥ 1:24pm fred: @Ike: You should taste the real stuff. It might be strong, but even at 120 proof it's not about getting drunk
	♥ 1:25pm Doug Schulkind: Scintillating sounds, Mayuko! As usual!
	1:25pm Mayuko: Thank you for your kind words, Joe! Glad I wasn't alone, haha!
	♥ 1:25pm Sem: Hello, Mayuko, those who play w/vertigo, and all. Even Doug, the smartypants.
	1:25pm Mayuko: What food festival, Ike? Around here?
	♥ 1:26pm fred: Master Doug! Are you missing school yet?
	♥ 1:26pm coelacanth∅: greetings Mayuko, Mayuklings
	♥ 1:27pm listener james from westwood: Love this Lionmilk.
	♥ 1:28pm Doug Schulkind: Not missing school at all!!
	♥ 1:28pm listener james from westwood: Oh, wow, Willy Wonka!
	1:28pm JakeGould: Whiskey is about getting drunk.
	1:29pm Dave B: Eno & Microsoft on that opening sample
	1:29pm Dave B: mentalfloss.com...
	1:29pm Mayuko: Hellos, doctorjazz! Stevie Wonder IS the genius. Welcome, Doug, sir!!!
	1:30pm JakeGould: Beer is not about the tasting. It’s about getting drunk. Wine is not about the tasting. It’s about getting drunk. Don’t let artisanal foodies fool you: It’s about getting drunk.
	1:30pm Mayuko: Welcome on board, Sem, and coelacanth∅!
	1:32pm Dave B: Artisanal = art is anal
	1:32pm JakeGould: @DaveB: Doughnuts are donuts but with an “ugh” in the middle.
	♥ 1:33pm Ike: @Mayuko, there are lots of them this weekend and many are listed as "rain or shine" but there are no clear standouts. There's a Korean one in upper Manhattan, the big Ninth Ave. and Park Slope ones (I'm always dubious of these really big ones -- might be a lot of funnel cake and tube socks), and others: www.eatingintranslation.com... (Scroll down to Sat. & Sun.)
	1:33pm Dave B: donuts spelled backwards is stunod
	♥ 1:34pm Dropof Goldensun: I just started a new gig where I'll be working Saturdays so I'm glad I found your show. I wish it was more than two hours!
	1:34pm Dave B: and you can't spell "sausage" without USA!
	♥ 1:35pm fred: @JakeGould: Fine whisky isn't about getting drunk, it's too expensive. Unless you're rich, I guess. I had a job recruiting pitch when the suitor pulled out a bottle of Port Ellen. We drained it, I signed on
	♥ 1:35pm Ike: Does anyone else remember when DJ Kenny G played that Windows startup theme on a loop for about 45 minutes once? That was great! I was at work and it made my boss so mad!
	1:35pm JakeGould: Sausage without USA is just sage!
	1:36pm Mayuko: Donuts are never ugh!!!!!!
	♥ 1:36pm Dropof Goldensun: @Ike: That's great! I missed that. haha
	♥ 1:36pm fred: @Dropof Goldensun: More than two hours? I'm all for it!
	♥ 1:37pm Ike: @Jake, we could use a lot more sage, and we could stand to be a lot more sage! Let's become SAGE instead of the USA! The, uh, States Against Gunking up Everything, maybe?
	1:37pm JakeGould: Maybe I will open a donut stand with a sign that reads: “DONUTS: We take the ‘ugh’ out of donuts.”
	1:37pm Dave B: @Ike - in that Mental Floss article they link to a W95 startup sound time stretched x23: youtu.be...
	1:38pm JakeGould: @Ike: Whenever I think about the USA nowadays I get a brain clenching moment.
	♥ 1:40pm Ike: And re: the food fests, when they say "rain or shine", do they really mean THIS much rain, I wonder?!
	1:40pm JakeGould: Maybe sage would help? Like some old hippie lady burning a small bundle of sage.
	1:40pm Mayuko: I hope you won't disappoint, Dropof Goldensun... usually my show is less-ranting, and perhaps more noises? haha.
	♥ 1:41pm fred: Sometimes ranting is overdue
	♥ 1:43pm Dropof Goldensun: I like the noises, and the ranting. I guess only time will tell. ;)
	1:44pm mzmzzm: i apologize if Im boiling it up but listen to ざんげの値打ちもない. Araki's came from that era I suppose.
	1:44pm JakeGould: @Ike: FWIW, the Park Slope 5th Avenue fest is not so bad. It’s definitely a street fair. But at least there are some decent restaurants on that strip that sell stuff at the fair then.
	1:46pm mzmzzm: Meiko Kaji rendition's better than the original imo.
	♥ 1:47pm fred: Too many established artists exploit aspiring ones, and this does trickle down. This might be the traditional way, but that isn't the kind of mentoring that nurtures both parties. It's a waste of talent, even if you don't mind the hurt
	♥ 1:47pm Ike: @Jake, good to know. There was some pretty solid stuff in the 7th Ave. one once, too.
	1:49pm Mayuko: @fred yes! NYC has taught me HOW TO RANT, haha. That, they never teach you in Japan. Even though I was always angry and it was indeed overdue! Ranting is a skill you have to learn.
	1:50pm Mayuko: @mzmzzm always good to have an opinion from different angle! Araki's indeed from THAT era, though, that I hope will end soon.
	♥ 1:52pm tmoyo: All this time was thinking about being a female in Japan or for that matter in any place in the world. It was never comfortable for me. Actually, gender neutrality is my thing. I was never comfortable being seen as a woman, not that I want to become a man (although i wanted to when I was a child). I've always wondered if this feeling comes from the aversion of being objectified / being expected to behave submissively. I love your rants Mayuko! Keep it up! I'll try to do that here in Japan too... Have to become more articulate tho.
	1:53pm JakeGould: @Ike: If you go, I would recommend focusing on the areas between 9th Street and 3rd Street. And then maybe from Union Street down to where the big Key Food with a parking lot is. Definitely some good stuff
	1:54pm Mayuko: @mzm And re: her management, I do think young people should take more active move and be their own bosses right from the start - rather than trying to be "found" by established artists (that are often old men, in Japan.) Which is what Kaori is saying too. However, nothing excuses people in the power exploiting, taking advantage of inexperienced people. That is just not cool and I condemn that.
	♥ 1:56pm Brian in UK: Too hot for a long dog walk. The bright yellow of the oil seed rape fields are stunning in the sunshine.
	1:58pm Mayuko: @tmoyo I share so many of that sentiments with you!
	♥ 1:58pm Brian in UK: Mayuko thanks for the stimulation of the mind. Oh, and the music!!
	♥ 1:59pm Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Mayuko. Stay dry!
	1:59pm rw: I've been thinking about the world my kids and their generation are entering and creating. Not that I have any clear ideas of what it will be like but I do have hope and faith! Discussions like this one are incredibly important. Thanks again Mayuko!
	♥ 2:01pm Jeff Golick: Many thanks for the ranting and music!
	♥ 2:04pm tmoyo: Thanks Mayuko!
	♥ 2:06pm Dropof Goldensun: Siouxsie Sioux! Great show, Mayuko! Thanks. Looking forward to more!
	2:06pm Mayuko: Thanks again everyone for listening!!! See you all next week!
	2:06pm rw: tmoyo, Rant on!
	♥ 2:07pm fred: Fitting closing track, "too much exposure". Thanks Mayuko, especially today. The topic was personal to me, and you made it work
	♥ 2:07pm Ivan: Thanks Mayuko! Great show!
	♥ 2:08pm listener james from westwood: thanks, Mayuko!
	♥ 2:08pm coelacanth∅: Thank you Mayuko!
	2:08pm Mayuko: Hey Ivan! Thanks!!
	2:08pm Joe: Thanks Mayuko and commenters!
	2:10pm Mayuko: It was a pleasure having all of you here! See you next week.
	♥ 2:38pm fred: I think I've proven myself guilty of mansplaining a few times in this show, which was doubly bad I'll be away next week, not out of shame, but trying to get prime tickets for next year's dance season
	3:28pm Mayuko: @fred I don't think I saw such thing? Your thoughts and comments are clearly always welcomed! Good luck re: tix!
	7:06pm Mayuko: (I kinda stole today's show title from Daniel Blumin's "Your Song, My Foot!" WFMU marathon premium - check it out at our store! wfmu.store...)

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