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Favoriting October 16, 2017: Reanimating old tech: Andrew Beccone, founder of the Reanimation Library

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Tonight, a conversation with Andrew Beccone, founder of the Reanimation Library in Red Hook, Brooklyn. Images from the library below:

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  Reanimation Library founder Andrew Beccone speaks with Mark. The theme for this episode is "reanimating old tech." What old tech do you still use?
Tomaš Dvořák  Game Boy Tune   Favoriting Machinarium Soundtrack    0:08:16 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst  Intro   Favoriting  
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Samoan Hot Shot Crew 61  Mountain Song   Favoriting     0:15:02 (Pop-up)
Kraftwerk  Tanzmusik   Favoriting Ralf und Florian    0:16:47 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst  The Techtonic Interview with Andrew Beccone, founder, The Reanimation Library   Favoriting  
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Kosmischer Laufer  Morgenrote   Favoriting The Secret Cosmic Music of the East German Olympic Program 1972-83, Vol. 2    0:34:10 (Pop-up)
Mark Hurst  Uncanny Valley   Favoriting  
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Mark Hurst  Mark takes calls   Favoriting  
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Shooby Taylor  The Theme   Favoriting Shooby Taylor, the Human Horn 
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Listener comments!

  6:03pm
melinda:

Hello techsters
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geezerette:

Hello, Mark and all!
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Switchblade Batman:

film cameras, various video game consoles
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Switchblade Batman:

A radio, being that there's digital streaming now
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Threemoons:

I can't call as I am in the office, but...my "old" technologies that I still use...let me think...I have a bunch of mix tapes from the 80's that I will never give up -- ditto for my tape player. Also, on a more primal front, I love my cast-iron pan and cooking over good ol' fashioned gas flame....
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steve:

i figured you were talking about that dumb ass Bodega thing... wow that's already several news cycles ago
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Bas NL:

Hey, i got that book! Physics of Metals!
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geezerette:

Boy, was THAT dumb! Zuckerberg.
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glenn:

gas flame is great, but those induction cooktops are pretty good as well.
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chris:

all versions of zuck are cartoon versions
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listener james from westwood:

Oh, jeez, that Zuck stunt was the facepalm di tutti facepalm.
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Threemoons:

I also do wet-film photography with expired films as a hobby, and use a modern flatbed scanner to scan the results...
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geezerette:

No, that was the real Zuckerberg,
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RomanDogBird:

i dunno i think it looks prtty kewl ac2lly
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glenn:

not to mention the awesomeness that is the charcoal barbecue.
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RomanDogBird:

ain't techmology grand
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Threemoons:

Glenn--Gas flame though is the only way to really crank it up, especially if you want to sear a steak or something....ditto for charcoal BBQ, which alas I only have limited access to...
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chris:

i have a wind vane on the roof
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listener james from westwood:

If VR granted any sort of empathy boost, women would be enduring a lot less harassment when using VR in shared environments than they have.
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Michael 98145:

i have a Selectric squirreled away
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RomanDogBird:

that was rather kevin meaney-esque, mark
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listener james from westwood:

Zuck should get back to going to state fairs and staring meaningfully at things as he did for his totally-not-a-presidential-cred-building-tour from earlier this year.
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Threemoons:

Would you consider home food fermentation (ie saurkraut/kimchee making the old fashioned way, etc) as a use of old tech?
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listener james from westwood:

@Michael: Smith-Corona portable manual tucked discreetly in my living room!
  6:12pm
Dean:

The pencil. The sonnet. Print reviews of classical music recordings.

That is, if by old tech you mean "things you don't have to plug in."
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dale:

give someone a transistor radio and tuneable loop and they can get all the info they ever would need.
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northguineahills:

I saw that video, it's amazing!
  6:13pm
melinda:

@threemoons I like to ferment. I also still play cassette tapes.
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geezerette:

VR is another way to corral you into the fb world and keep you there. So many Trojan Horses; and it's all so seductive. I'm as hooked as anyone, I mean I'm here, y' know?
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Mark Hurst:

Hi everyone! Here's the video we're listening to, of the Samoan firefighters. www.youtube.com...
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Michael 98145:

virtual *wave*, gz'ette
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Threemoons:

@Melinda you go girl! :D
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geezerette:

I'm a painter. Not much is lower tech than that.
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Jeff:

I got it from Kathryn!
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geezerette:

Virtual wave back, Michael. :)
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kimzilla:

Umm, Is his avatar waist deep in water?
  6:17pm
Dean:

That bottom photo of shelved library books demonstrates an old, still widely used technology: Library of Congress Classification. The titles are classed in T, Technology, including subclass TA (Engineering (General). Civil engineering) and subclass TF (Railroad engineering and operation).
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Jeff:

Also apropos of all that VR nonsense - I just want to remind everyone that nobody should ever buy anything made by Oculus Rift or its douchebag founder.

www.theguardian.com...
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geezerette:

No books are outdated if they spur your imagination.
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glenn:

i love old hand tools. there's nothing more satisfying than making paper thin shavings with a beautiful old plane.
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dale:

i have some books from the teens on how to build your own aeroplane, hypnotism, and how to become a morse code operator.
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Bas NL:

You said it geezerette..
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glenn:

does anybody still use morse code anymore?
  6:21pm
scuzfink1:

In case you were wondering what song the Samoan firefighters were singing...

https://youtu.be/KM2kbogwgBM
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geezerette:

Vance Packard's " The Hidden Persuaders " is still relevant.

Thanks, Bas. :).
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glenn:

besides the cosmodemonic telegraph company, that is.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

So if North Korea detonated an EMP like they threatened, we might not be screwed, after all?
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Fox:

Glenn: I know SOS in morse code purely from the old scrubby sponge commercials.
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geezerette:

Glenn, yes han tools!
Melinda, yes, fermentation!
Everyone here;yes,yes,yes!
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geezerette:

...hand tools...
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dale:

this all sounds amazing and enlightening - to a millenial. to anyone over 50 it's just how we grew up and many of us never left that world.
  6:25pm
Dean:

At this point, geezerette, I think you're obligated to cite the closing passage of Joyce's "Ulysses."
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listener james from westwood:

I've looked through that million random digits book! Mostly in puzzlement. Spotted it at my college library.
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glenn:

i'm assuming n.y.c. has tool libraries.
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listener james from westwood:

The audiobook version of that digit text is basically a numbers station.
  6:27pm
Dean:

Was just skimming a book on campus here compiling results of formulae given specified values, table after table.
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geezerette:

Dean, I'd have to re-read it.
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Jeff:

@dale: My dad continued to call flying machines aeroplanes. I think he did adopt the newfangled "airport" in lieu of aerodrome.
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geezerette:

Got it here, so will read last page this evening. Thanks!
  6:30pm
Dean:

It's an...affirmative...closing.
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Michael 98145:

once, in my dim past, i recall a station going off the air, but before they totally shut down all that was broadcast was a voice counting up numbers
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Michael 98145:

it was a very sorrowful sound
  6:32pm
Dean:

The LC classification, like Dewey Decimal Classification, was designed to facilitate "looking around."
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geezerette:

Nothing can replace the pleasure and value of browsing, wandering; in a book store, library, museum, national park, or a city,(on and on).
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glenn:

browsing goes against the protestant work ethic, though.
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listener james from westwood:

Hear, hear, geezerette!
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Jeff:

I've really enjoyed reading some of the original-version early 20th century Tom Swift ("Tom Swift and his Motorcycle", "Tom Swift and his War Tank" et al) and Hardy Boys books.

The casual racism in them is initially shocking but eye-opening, and in general they give a really interesting feel for the time in which and for which they were written.
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geezerette:

Following your own imagination is almost the definition of being human.
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geezerette:

Hey, Listener James! :)
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geezerette:

Jeff, exactly!
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dale:

i have a couple three tom swifts. tom and his electric rifle and i think tom and his airship. that boy must have been well off.
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geezerette:

ha!
  6:41pm
herb.nyc:

As photography is mentioned, prince st betw Broadway / Crosby, in soho, is where Polaroid people hang and display their pix. They'll even shoot you (not ouch).
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Jeff:

Li'l bit of packet sniffing and Bob's your uncle!
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glenn:

the first franklin w. dixon was leslie mcfarlane. his son brian came up with peter puck, to explain hockey to americans.
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geezerette:

@Glenn@6:36: Puritan curse. Resist! :D
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chris:

btw, this just in. all wifi can be hacked - www.theguardian.com...
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Threemoons:

@Herb yeah I know the gallery I think...
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Jeff:

@chris: Yep, here's the paper on it

www.krackattacks.com
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glenn:

oh he was also carolyn keene, for the nancy drew lovers.
www.cbc.ca...
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Fox:

My local library in Jersey City loans out neckties, so people can go on job interviews.
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geezerette:

Fox, that's wonderful!
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Jeff:

Google News is maintaining a good live cluster of recent posts about the WPA2 vulnerability.

news.google.com...
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Bas NL:

I've repaired/restored some 700 vintage synthesizers.. while outdated they are still in high demand!
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listener james from westwood:

@Fox, that is one of the kindest services I've ever heard a library offering.
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Cheri Pi:

Cassettes, 8 tracks, microfilm; 33, 48 & 78 players. VHS. Polaroid film.
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Michael 98145:

only the dogmatic lack imagination
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listener james from westwood:

Quoting stream-mate Gary Sullivan's opener: Bodegas are our friend.
  6:50pm
herb.nyc:

Old school photography gave us jokes like "let's go to the darkroom and see what develops", as you wink to the cutie. Kids nowadays ask "what's a darkroom?".
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Fox:

Outdated tech that most think is no longer needed: RADIO
  6:51pm
Eric Hat:

Exactly right. Head ye from whence you came.
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dale:

carburetors. clothes lines. hammers.
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Cheri Pi:

*45, hahaha
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mocherz:

working in animation, we usually lean on our digital cintiqs, but man, I miss drawing on paper, sharpening my pencil, and even paper cuts.
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listener james from westwood:

Kids today are likely to rejoin with the Lydia Deetz line from Beetlejuice: "My life is a dark room. One big dark room." And gods bless'em for replying so.
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sweeks:

I still love the sound and feel of an old typewriter
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geezerette:

Fox, haha! Yes!!!
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Michael 98145:

i like that: a WFMU-targeted radio. it's doable.
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sweeks:

Old pinball machines too!
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Cheri Pi:

We still have to transfer floppy disks at our library
  6:53pm
herb.nyc:

One of my favorite Onion headlines; "internet crashes under weight of cat photos". Oops, I lied, they said baby photos.
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mocherz:

pinball machines!
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dale:

radio that only get's one fm station:

www.cnet.com...
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northguineahills:

Amen Threemoons, I picked my house b/c it had a gas stove, and gas stoves are rare in this area of FL.

Dig the show, Mark. Trying to get out of work by 7. Of course all obsolete music forms are integral to my existence. Although, I got rid of my 8-tracks when I moved to NYC 17 years ago as my 8-track player was a cabinet, and I had no room. I just moved to FL from Brooklyn, otherwise I'd love to go to Monty Hall.

I have an old polaroid (but finding film is a drag), and I have tons of old musical instruments.

Is it weird that I have my books organized by their Library of Congress number?
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Jeff:

@herb.nyc -

Changes in standard fluid measures for liquor bottles killed the good ol' joke:

Where there are four Episcopalians there's a fifth!
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sweeks:

side note--as a swag-for-life member, where's my little radio doo-hicky icon?
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melinda:

@ngh yes
  6:54pm
Dean:

Chemex coffee maker, c.1990.
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glenn:

not weird so much as inefficient.
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Michael 98145:

yes!! bring a danged map!!
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dale:

northguineahills: you don't need a natural gas line. we use a propane barbecue tank and it lasts a loooong time. just have to run the black pipe line outside.
  6:55pm
Dean:

The once beloved Thomas Maps guides...
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steve:

i loooove good pens and writing in notebooks... i usually have 2-4 notebooks of personal and projects and work stuff going at once. im incapable of brainstorming with a computer.
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northguineahills:

As a geographer, I never use a GPS, I memorize a map beforehand like a normal human being!
  6:56pm
Xyrus Blaze:

Lead type.
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dale:

....and adjust the burners - don't forget that.
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melinda:

@steve me too. I enjoy writing.
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melinda:

yes to maps.
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Fox:

Comic books! Most people buy trades from bookstores these days, and don't buy floppies at all, and Marvel Comics, given their success with the films and shows, is considering no longer making print individual issue comics at all anymore and making it digital only.
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Jeff:

I still wear a wristwatch which is permanently stuck with the same user interface... and never washes out in bright sunlight or needs a battery!
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glenn:

i scrapped my high tech coffee maker for a french press and an italian stovetop espresso maker [for weekend caffe macchiatto].
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dale:

i keep an old western electric dial phone. cordless phones don't work during power outages.

shooby taylor!
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Bas NL:

Maps, maps, maps, maps, maps.
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dale:

maps for the win.
  6:58pm
Dean:

ISWYDT, @Bas NL.
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dale:

....and slide rules.
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Fox:

Filofax.
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Michael 98145:

kids wouldn't even know how to dial a phone
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northguineahills:

Thanks Mark!
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dale:

rolodexes.
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Michael 98145:

let alone kittens
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dale:

matches.
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
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Webhamster Henry:

well I missed this completely! that 's what I get for working!
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Webhamster Henry:

When books went on sale at my college, I decided that if the price was really low, then they stopped being books and started being art material. But one of my favorite things I got there was a three volume set of American Sewerage Practice, 1915. It's loaded with great graphics, fold-out nomograms, and pictures of laborers inside of huge culverts!
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