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Options August 27, 2017: With guest Al Margolis of Pogus Productions

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Artist Track Album Approx. start time
Wlodzimierz Kotonski  AELA   Options V/A: Polish Collection of the Warsaw Autumn  0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
 
Ápolók  [Excerpts]   Options Válogatás  0:18:47 (Pop‑up)
Mario Marzidovšek  [Excerpts]   Options 1  0:28:56 (Pop‑up)
Big Red Stain  [Excerpts]   Options Hit After Hit  0:38:55 (Pop‑up)
 
The Psychological Warfare Branch  [Excerpts]   Options Propaganda  1:02:47 (Pop‑up)
The Horse He's Sick  Excerpts]   Options Pulp  1:13:39 (Pop‑up)
Linea Tactica  [Excerpts]   Options Lina Tactica  1:23:25 (Pop‑up)
Genetic Plans  [Excerpts]   Options Genetic Plans  1:40:58 (Pop‑up)
 
37 Pink  [Excerpt]   Options Corrective Justice  1:56:13 (Pop‑up)


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Listener comments!

  10:00pm Frulia:

Wish I turned in sooner!
  10:01pm Frulia:

No offense to this show! ....(always late)
Avatar 10:03pm Dave Mandl:

Evening, all.
Avatar 10:04pm Dave Mandl:

Hi Frulia.
Avatar 10:04pm Dave Mandl:

If you mean Gaylord's show, you can always listen to the archive of it.
  10:20pm bloopy:

hey team
Avatar 10:20pm HollyT:

Hi Dave, Hi Al. Where is everyone?
Avatar 10:21pm Dave Mandl:

Hey bloopy, Holly.
  10:22pm JakeGould:

Whoa! Glad I just got back home in time for this. Is Al physically there? If so, hello! I met you briefly at the NY Art Book fair at MoMA PS1.
Avatar 10:22pm Dave Mandl:

@Holly: Camera shy?
Avatar 10:23pm Dave Mandl:

Hey Jake. Yes, Al's here in the studio, and says hi back.
  10:23pm cheri:

hey dave, i'm just checking in and out sorry can't stay, have a delightful show!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24pm melinda:

hi dave and all
Avatar 10:25pm Dave Mandl:

Hey cheri, melinda.
  10:28pm cheri:

btw dave, is Gaylord still around? if he is, tell him to have a great week!
Avatar 10:30pm Dave Mandl:

Sorry, you missed him, cheri.
  10:33pm skum2:

this show is so cool...i grew up in tha 80s with tapes...and weard music...
im in new Zealand waiting to pick up my daughter from school, tuned in to wfmu . as i do when ever i can......
  10:36pm JakeGould:

@skum2: I really love it when another side of the world tunes in and enjoys it.
  10:38pm bloopy:

i'm in new zealand too
Avatar 10:40pm Dave Mandl:

Hi, skum2. Thanks. Yeah, Al is the cassette maven.
Avatar 10:40pm Dave Mandl:

And welcome, kiwis!
Avatar 10:42pm Dave Mandl:

@bloopy: Are you always in NZ?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:42pm steve:

hi Dave and Al. i just love these mysterious (to me) old cassette releases, could listen to hours and hours or this.
Avatar 10:44pm Dave Mandl:

Hey steve.
  10:44pm ike:

Like!
  10:47pm cranky_messiah:

Greetings Dave, and everyone else, from Melbourne, AU. My one-year-old daughter was just giving Big Red Stain a little bum-wiggle dance of approval...
  10:48pm bloopy:

Dave: Very much always :)
Avatar 10:52pm HollyT:

I remember reading something about a Hungarian who half-jokingly claimed Hungarians are descendents of aliens
Avatar 10:53pm HollyT:

Not only because their language is so bizarre, but also because Hungarians produce an abnormally high percentage of mathematicians and scientists
  10:57pm JakeGould:

Is this the Bandcamp he just mentioned? ifbwana.bandcamp.com
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:59pm BennettCap:

David Crosby recently ran a hilarious Twitter feed hating punk music.
Avatar 11:00pm northguineahills:

@HollyT: That's b/c the closest indo-european language related to Hungarian is Finnish, and they are very distantly related linguistically. The original Hungarians started moving into what is today Hungary in the early 5th century from the Eurasian steppe. They kept their language, unlike the Bulgarians, who moved into what is now Bulgaria from the Eurasian steppe in the 7th century. By the 11th century, Bulgarian had been mostly Slavicisized, linguistically.

Another historical linguistic lesson w/ ngh....
  11:03pm JakeGould:

A lot of punk music actually sucks.
Avatar 11:04pm northguineahills:

@Jake: A lot of music of any genre sucks (well, we both know that).
  11:04pm JakeGould:

@northguineahills: So basically, Eastern Europe is too weird to ever summarize in one sentence.
  11:05pm JakeGould:

@northguineahills: True. But in the case of punk—and especially hardcore—the strength of the bands is mainly the scene they are a part of an support. As an individual most hardcore punk is just crap.
Avatar 11:05pm northguineahills:

My history degree is in Eastern European history, so all I can say is, ******!!!!!
  11:06pm JakeGould:

@northguineahills: Amorphous borders and crazy changes in language as a result.
Avatar 11:06pm HollyT:

@ngh: Interesting! When I was applying for the Fulbright, I considered applying to Hungary (the thing I was working on was set in A-H preWWI). I ended up going to Czech Republic instead.
Avatar 11:06pm Dave Mandl:

Hi ike, cranky, Bennett, ngh. Having some trouble with the internet connection here, so can't comment much.
Avatar 11:07pm northguineahills:

Hardcore punk is almost a throw of the dice, more then half sucks, but I find a lot is amazing. But, your point still stands.
Avatar 11:08pm HollyT:

Even though I lived there for a year and a half (I stayed post-Fulbright), I NEVER learned to speak Czech very well, and now that I've been back for almost 8 years, I've forgotten most of what I did learn. :(
  11:13pm Stevel:

This is very cool stuff. Fits the mood, NS the chemical balance.
Avatar 11:17pm northguineahills:

@HollyT: The amazing thing about Czechia, is that they maintained their Slavic language (they are the most westward surviving Slavic language). Most other regions around them were Germanified by the 16th century. Bohemia & Moravia had a strong streak of independence starting w/ the prot-Protestant Hussite wars in the 15th century where the Bohemian king lost his crown by decree in the peace treaty w/ the Holy Roman Empire.
Avatar 11:20pm northguineahills:

Why did I study Eastern European history when I'm a WASP? B/c I didn't know anything about it beforehand. Pretty much how I approach anything in life.
Avatar 11:21pm Dave Mandl:

@Jake: Yes, that's the correct URL!
Avatar 11:24pm northguineahills:

Czech was formalized in the 18th century, so it's the most archaic of Slavic languages (most weren't formalized until the mid-late 19th century). So, most other Slavic language speakers have a hard time learning it. (I don't speak Czech, I just know a few Czechs).
Avatar 11:24pm HollyT:

ngh: A Polish lady told me that Poles think Czech sounds like Polish spoken by a four-year-old. :D
Avatar 11:25pm HollyT:

It's a very difficult language. 7 cases! (Russian only has 5)
Avatar 11:25pm Dave Mandl:

Someone I know once said Dutch looks like English written by someone with brain damage. (I love Dutch.)
Avatar 11:26pm northguineahills:

Norweigians and Swedes think Danes are on demerol when they speak (it's a Nordic joke).

Now, don't get me started on the swamp Germans (the Dutch).
Avatar 11:29pm HollyT:

@dave, @ngh: lol
Avatar 11:29pm HollyT:

I heard that the closest language to English is actually Frisian
Avatar 11:31pm northguineahills:

@HollyT: You'd be correct. Frisian is the closest to pre-Norman English that exists in a modern context.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:44pm BennettCap:

Your show is great. Where the hell have I been?
Avatar 11:46pm Dave Mandl:

@Bennett: Aw. thanks. But I'm about to take a break from the show.
Avatar 11:49pm HollyT:

@Dave, when does the break start?
Avatar 11:52pm tuner fish:

say it ain't so, dave
Avatar 11:54pm HollyT:

There's always the archives, fortunately
Avatar 11:54pm Dave Mandl:

@tuner: Sorry.
@Holly: Starts 9/11.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:55pm BennettCap:

Alas, how my every love story ends. You'll live on in spirit, mensch.
Avatar 11:58pm Dave Mandl:

Thanks very much! And thanks for listening and chatting, all. Have a great week.
Avatar 11:59pm HollyT:

Nite, Dave. Great show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59pm Ike:

Wow, both Liz Berg and Dave Mandl off the schedule. :(
Great show tonight, though!
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