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Munson  Quicksilver   Favoriting Driven to the Point of Abstraction [1984]  0:00:00 (Pop-up)
John Fekkner City Squad  The Beat   Favoriting Idioblast [1984 Vinyl Gridlock Records]  0:05:31 (Pop-up)
Maud Lubeck  A la fin   Favoriting VA - Vallee du Don (2016)  0:08:58 (Pop-up)
Raimonds Pauls  Carrie's Dippy   Favoriting Sister Carrie OST (Melodiya 1979)  0:12:29 (Pop-up)
Safeer-e Arsh  Ma'refat   Favoriting The Desert Inside - Rumi's Poem (2007)  0:21:22 (Pop-up)
Golden Hyaena  Vaise de Kronink   Favoriting S/T 7" (Golden Soundsheets 2016)  0:26:25 (Pop-up)
Shyamala Balakrishnan, Padma Subrahmanyam, K.S. Vasudevan and N. Vasudevan  Invocation (I and II)   Favoriting Folk Music of Tamil Nadu (1973 His Masters Voice)  0:31:45 (Pop-up)
The Fantastic Angels  Jesus Been Good   Favoriting VA - This May Be My Last Time Singing (CD1)  0:36:33 (Pop-up)
The Joyful Sound (Aloha, Oregon)  Wedding Invitation   Favoriting The Wedding Invitation (197x No Label)  0:38:16 (Pop-up)
Al Balabil  Track 2   Favoriting Al Balabil Solo Tape (198?)  0:48:45 (Pop-up)
Dao Bandon  Khon Khi Lang Khwai   Favoriting Khon Khi Lang Khwai (197x)  0:55:04 (Pop-up)
Safavi  Mahoor   Favoriting VA - Collection of Iranian Music 17 - Tasnifs 1920 - 1940  0:58:52 (Pop-up)
Bereket Mengistaab  Imbeytey Weizero   Favoriting Meley 7" (Phillips Ethiopia 196x)  1:04:42 (Pop-up)
Cheikha Fatma Bent Elmekki  Elmoula Abdelmjid   Favoriting VA - Holiday in Morocco (Pathe/EMI 1969)  1:08:05 (Pop-up)
Scraps  Touch Blue   Favoriting ttnik (Moontown Records 2016)  1:20:35 (Pop-up)
O.R.D.U.C.  Crazy Computer   Favoriting 17 to 7 (1984 EP)  1:27:15 (Pop-up)
Amateur Hour  Jag läser det jag säger   Favoriting Jenny's Place / Jag Läser Det Jag Säger (2016 Folk Disc)  1:30:17 (Pop-up)
Mia Loucks  Piano   Favoriting Sweet Honey Demo (2016)  1:33:31 (Pop-up)
The Changing Winds  Don't Be Afraid   Favoriting The Changing Winds (197x UA Recordings)  1:36:29 (Pop-up)
Desmond McAnuff & Woburn Collegiate  Anthem   Favoriting Urbania - A New Rock Musical (PRP 124 - 1971)  1:38:35 (Pop-up)
Francis Bebey  Fleur Tropicale   Favoriting Fleur Topicale (SonoDisc 1976)  1:50:53 (Pop-up)
LA Iglesia Evangelica Espanola del Bronx  A La Media Noche   Favoriting Canta El Sur Del Bronx (Aguinaldos y Demas) 197?  1:54:56 (Pop-up)
Basheer Abel Aa  Track 1   Favoriting Basheer Abel Aa tape [198x Sudan]  1:58:19 (Pop-up)
Mosiah & Adina Elierzeroff & the Bucharian Group  Razal, Shaida (Nasri Bayot)   Favoriting No One Cares: International 78rpm discs ca. 1912-55  2:04:40 (Pop-up)
Anonymous Banyarwanda (People of Rwanda)  Cordophones - Umuduli -Segitonganya   Favoriting VA - Rwanda 1 - Musique Instrumentale [1977 Alpha 5023]  2:09:06 (Pop-up)
Ray Yours and The F  Warme Und Wonne   Favoriting [2016 Demos]  2:16:18 (Pop-up)
Paul Littlechief & The Uprising  Custer Died for Your Sins   Favoriting The Real American (197x Boyd Records)  2:19:57 (Pop-up)
The Fall  All Leave Cancelled   Favoriting Wise Ol Man EP (2016)  2:24:09 (Pop-up)
Elder Beck  Rock and Roll Sermon   Favoriting Fire in My Bones: Raw, Rare & Otherworldly African-American Gospel, 1944-2007  2:32:28 (Pop-up)
Institutional Church of God In Christ Choir  This Is The Right Time   Favoriting This Is The Right Time (197x King Records)  2:37:01 (Pop-up)
Canyon Country Choir  I've Been Touched By His Hands   Favoriting Alone (Century 1978)  2:39:58 (Pop-up)
Light of Life Group  Die Spinne   Favoriting VA - Aufbruch - Songs from Christian Life Communities (1968-74)  2:42:41 (Pop-up)
Vos Cantu Monemus  Railroad Song   Favoriting Words Never Said (1969)  2:48:28 (Pop-up)
Lord Led  I Heard A Voice   Favoriting ST (1972 Deen Brown Productions)  2:51:24 (Pop-up)

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Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:06pm

Good afternoon Jason
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Jason Elbogen:

Hey Fred... Do you 'do' Christmas?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:07pm

Is this the Canadian non-union equivalent of Thomas Dolby?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:12pm
Alex In Illinois:

There are many sects and offshoots in Christianity. Most hold that the Jesus character did not get married, but you never know what can be found. It is not as if there is any evidence for what Jesus, or Iesus, or Yeshua bin Yosef did or did not do during his life, or even if he did live, so every now and then someone just makes up more stuff.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:12pm

hi Jason, Fred, Ike and the rest!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:13pm

@Alex: true. Jesus history is murky to say the least.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:16pm

@Jason: Not really. I will go to my brother's for lunch, but it's mostly about our traditional exchange (and tasting) of good whisky
Avatar 3:26pm

My parents are married 54? 55? years now. It's weird how that makes me feel old, yeah.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:26pm

We do have weird tenses almost nobody can get right. English is pretty logical: "have been" now, just add "will" to put that in the future. I'm not sure putting a label on it really helps
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

\m/_ (>L< )))) _\m/
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:31pm

Timezone appropriate greetings, Jason & listeners. Pretty sure that Christmas Trees are another of those pagan traditions that Christianity ripped-off, so as long as they don't get adorned with Angels, us secularists and atheists can get away with them.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:32pm

(although I also remember reading that angels are of dubious provenance, and maybe a medieval invention of some kind)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:33pm
Alex In Illinois:

@melinda: but is it even "history", or just mythology?

@fred: Where? oh, I see you are French! Don't you have some kind of cake, and who ever gets the piece that has some object in it wears a crown?

And isn't there a delicious pork pie? Or is that just among Quebecois?
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'The Christ Conspiracy' by Archarya S. : www.amazon.com...
Thank You, Alex. It always begins w/ the cultural premise that Christ lived in reality & there's some supposed evidence - of something ...somewhere ...we're all supposed to know about & accept. So - show me this irrefutable stuff for your gargantuan claims, already.
As a NeoPagan~ish sort, I should love Xmas to pieces - for nothing is more Pagan than Xmas. It's just too compulsory & over-the-top, though. When people are dying on Black Friday - you need to shut the thing off & start from scratch - as is true of so many of civilization's institutions @ this point...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:36pm

@Alex: that crown thing is in January (and an awkward office party I do my best to avoid)
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Jason Elbogen:

[As I was typing in the 'Artist' field for this track it occurred to me that perhaps this might be the longest group/person name I've ever played/typed into my show]

@Alex: it might all be mythology. Also, I thought pork pie was just a Québécois thing.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...on the other hand - Xmas is like when all of Society agrees to Trip Out - & acknowledge that compassion & pleasure & even awe might possibly have some value in life - if even to ghettoize it into one season...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:39pm

@Jason_: Angels are an invention? Their share is all too real though. So who is drinking it?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:39pm

First time listening...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Definition of 'Mythology': Someone *else's* Religion...
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still b/p:

I do like a Christmas tree, but I recall, though I can't reach into the Googley innards to find just now, an old magazine cartoon showing a wide landscape, bare except for countless clean-cut stumps, being regarded by two Native Americans, and one saying, "White man, him say, 'What Christmas without a tree?'"
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Jason Elbogen:

This song is about marrying Jesus (I think).
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...the perfect example of not being able to see the Forest for No Trees...

I don't like the hyper-commercialism of Christmas but love the lights, baubles, pine, and general coziness.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:44pm

@fred mea culpa, should have added a few levels of quotation marks. Welcome back BTW, hope you have recovered (and aren't sick of being asked that).
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

It *is* Solstice - the longest night of the year. So - whatever gets you thru the night - as the poet said.
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still b/p:

From last year, and I remember saying, "Hm.... Hm.":
Woman marries Jesus Christ, becomes consecrated virgin
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:47pm
Alex In Illinois:

@ Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Xmas? If you're a pagan then Io Saturnalia! Yes, I get sick of it too, and I agree about Black Friday. But Wednesday I celebrated the Solstice. That is the real "reason for the season". And I admit, that I recently enjoyed a Steel Guitar rendition of the melody known for "Oh Holy Night".

@melinda: I think you are right about the tasty pork pie being Québécois.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Nuns marry Jesus. The Church is the Bride - &tc.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:48pm
Alex In Illinois:

@Jason: If there are any "Serious Christians" here, then I am making a bigger ass of myself and offending them more than you are.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:50pm

@Jason_: Looks like I'm the one who should apologize: whisky seems to be a medieval invention, so angels were not required before then. It actually fits. As for dubious provenance, I like the legend that Irish monks invented whisky after learning to make perfume in the middle east

I think if a secular person of Christian heritage calls themselves Christian, devout Christians would disagree with that assessment. Would devout Jews not recognize secular Jews as Jews? I assume they would but I might be wrong.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 3:55pm
Alex In Illinois:

Next week, I will be celebrating Xmas AND Chanukah, even though I am an Atheist. So will my sister even though she is Buddhist. I am part of a blended family.

@Jason: It is a holiday of Pagan origin. It was the Saturnalia. The rebirth of the Sun. That is why it is so close to the Solstice.

Homer Simpson voice: Stupid Constantine!
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Jason Elbogen:

No matter how little observant/non-observant a Jewish person is observant, s/he is still considered Jewish by Jews, even the Orthodox. On this matter, Hitler and many of Trump's followers agree.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I hung w/ well-known sort of high-level NeoPagans on the West Coast - celebrated Solstice w/ them...then - they all f*cked off to their families - & had freaking Christmas. Ha ha. I mean - most of what is observed & celebrated in Western Xmas Tradition derives from other than Christianity. A lot of it doesn't actually go back that far - Rudolph in the 40s, Santa Claus - himself a real amalgam - most of his imagery & character to the late 1800s - right? A lot derives from North European immigrants to the U.S. In this sense - it's rather an appealing organic aggregation that just happened...but the Christian thing of Jesus - then & Saint Nicholas (East European) gets insisted on. Even Xtian scholars who insist on the historic Jesus eschew his birth this time of year. He's imposed on Solstice as a Solar Hero, symbolically - which is - after all - Natural. It's complicated, too, then... But yeah - Jewish people get this attitude forced on them - while Xmas is presumed to be Universal - obviously true. The degree to which Xmas is German & North European isn't exactly a comfort zone for the Jewish either, necessarily...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Christ is Jewish anyway - it's all so atavistic, tribal, & stupid...
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still b/p:

Mayne the Irish monks'd be likin' a bit of the whisky humor. When Uncle Michael played something from The FIghting Jamesons last week, listener Glen says, "The fighting jamesons morphed into the non-violent bushmills."
And I says, "The Tullamore Dewds were chill with everybody."

@Jason: I think that might be the difference. There might be other countries where, in terms of Christian identity, heritage matters more than practice.

Rabbit, I love the concept of Jesus as a solar hero.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:08pm
Alex In Illinois:

@Revolution Rabbit Nov63: What I find amusing is that the English-speaking Christians never got around to renaming Easter to a Christian name. It still is named after a pagan goddess!! And her rabbit still remains! The eggs too!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

@melinda: Jungian stuff.
...I like the story of Xmas stopping trench warfare in WWI for a second. That's an amazing power. But that was two North European cultures w/ Germanic roots finding commonality...
@Alex: All of it - just add Christ. 'Easter' & 'estrogen' are related words, btw...

I was kind of old when I discovered that Easter was a Christian holiday with religious significance for adults, not just a fun kiddie egg hunt.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Must run errands - Thx for amazing music & too much space in the comments!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:15pm

@still b/p: I dunno about the monks, but I like it (your name does start with "still", no wonder you're good at this)

My late husband was Jewish (though he never actually referred to himself in that way, he would identify as 'a Jew') and he celebrated Christmas.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:19pm
Alex In Illinois:

Regarding more or less observant Jews, next week, in South Beach, I will likely be approached by members of an Orthodox Jewish sect who intend to bring the less observant Jews back to the Orthodox faith. (I am not really Jewish, though I have been told "funny you don't look Goy")

As for my own beliefs, I think religion divides people, and we should stick to only scientific naturalistic explanations for things. I admit to indulging in "recreational religion" just like recreation drug use.

I like the dancey tune.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:38pm

Jason, I think you're actually more observant than you think. When your show airs, Shabbat has started in Jerusalem. I think this is why your otherwise stellar technical skills sometimes fail you
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yeah, i'm pretty sure jesus never got married because he was a big ol' flaming homo. not that there's anything wrong with that.
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he was also a commie. for the life of me, i can't figure out why the republicans love the fucking guy so much.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:50pm
Alex In Illinois:

According to that new novel "Under Tiberius" by Nick Tosches . . .
Avatar Swag For Life Member 4:52pm
Alex In Illinois:

I am where you are on that too, Jason.
  Swag For Life Member 4:52pm

There are specifications for being born Jewish. Christians are muts. Heinz 57. White. The American fiction of classless plurality. The same fiction as race with the same dedicated believers. Jewish blood is a European concoction. Why is still sticks? Human behavior is built compulsion. .Freud was right.

I like your rants.
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Jason: My sister is a believing Catholic, and she carries over her beliefs into politics.

I know what you are saying, but could you be a little bit less 100% black-and-white?
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(that is, she votes Democrat.)
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Jason Elbogen:

The Jason Elbogen show: Come for the Music, Stay for the Rants.

Maybe some devout Christian Trump voters were really voting for Pence. Which is also disturbing.
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Jason Elbogen:

Scraps - Not that I'm suggesting it, but if you listen to all five or six mike breaks in their entirety today, you will hear nuance overall. I think.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:05pm
Alex In Illinois:

My wife considers herself a believing Catholic as do her Nun friends, but the religious beliefs they carry into politics do not have them voting for Trump. There really are pro-LGBT, pro-choice Nuns.

There is a lot of diversity within the Catholic community.

But then there is this Evangelical, Rapture-hailing, biblical literalistic, dominionist, Xtian-right.

@melinda: Yes, I think Pence helped secure a lot of those votes.
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I'm listening. ;-) Through the whole show.

I'm very much agnostic, since 13 years old. But I grew up Catholic, and there is more breadth of attitudes in them (at least in Seattle) than you would think to judge from my agnostic friends. So maybe I'm a little bit defensive.
wizard frog:

Happy Jesus Birthday Guys
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:11pm
Alex In Illinois:

When I think of the Xtian-Right, I do not think Catholic. Catholic colleges and universities are accredited, as opposed to institutions like Liberty "University" or the many lesser known Fundamentalist diploma mills.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:12pm

Hear you next week Jason, I'm just yawning too often by now not to get the hint that I need to sleep
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:13pm
Alex In Illinois:

Is it about quarter past 22 where you are Fred?
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Jason Elbogen:

G'night, Fred.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:15pm

Past 11, which is early for me, but I had a doctor appointment at 8am (which is very early for me)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:17pm
Alex In Illinois:

@Fred: I was thinking in 24 time. But I was wrong, by an hour, since 22 is 10 pm. So you have had a long stretch.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:24pm

@Alex: I usually think in 24 time too, shows how confused I am. I went to sleep at 2am yesterday (well, this morning), so this was indeed long. I didn't adjust to these early appointments (early because I have to schedule them before work), but I won't have these for long, and I'll soon come back from shows at my usual past-midnight time, so all will fall back into place. No sense messing up my real rhythm for some one-time surgery
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Jason Elbogen:

Everyone's dying for each other's sins these days it seems!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:25pm
Alex In Illinois:

Ashkenazi - from The part of Europe, from Germany to Russia, Sephardic from Spain, but kicked out by F & I, and brought to Turkey in the late 15th century (or assimilated in Portugal).

Many of the first Jewish people to immigrate to North America were Sephardic. Aaron Lopez was Sephardic.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:26pm

@Jason: One of the Principia Discordia's stamps read "King Kong died for your sins"
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still b/p:

I wrote a long comment on Christmas choice and tradition, and one not as long with guesses and thoughts on Christian right voting. My holiday gift to all is not posting them.
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Jason Elbogen:

still b/p: go ahead a post!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:30pm
Alex In Illinois:

@Jason: That Custer number was pretty funny.

I can't explain to people why I enjoy music by the Fall. I often don't understand why I can dig the lyrics, but I just do.
Jeff g.:

Hi there. Seeking comfort in some friendly sounds n names.
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Jason Elbogen:

Jeffrey--I'll play some more soothing music next
Jeff g.:

Thanks, though of course one person's soothing is another's...? Just keep doing that voodoo that you do.
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Jason Elbogen:

nothing's more soothing to Jewish people than the sounds of German Christians, by the way.
Jeff g.:

I actually enjoy when my wife falls into her faux German accent.
Jeff g.:

The NYer push alert I just got on my phone re the current "unprecedented risk of an accidental nuclear holocaust" is not helping, tho.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 5:57pm
Alex In Illinois:

See you all, in 2017.
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Jason Elbogen:

Jeff--it's ok. there's still time to accept Jesus as your saviour. I heard you can even do it on the comment board.
Jeff g.:

Pulled a bunch of Jesus hits for Sunday's D:O Radio, if folks are still jonesing for some Jeebus come Sunday.

Is it unseemly to do this kind of plug?
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still b/p:

"Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every commenting creature."
Avatar 6:02pm

there's a lot of Fall songs, also

Thanks Jason
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