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Sore Eros & Kurt Vile  Calling Out of Work   Favoriting Jamaica Plain  Care In The Community  *   0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Small Colin  Warmed Up   Favoriting Mono Box  Free Music Archive  *   0:05:49 (Pop-up)
Monamie  Static (edit)   Favoriting The Black Wave  Free Music Archive  *   0:11:20 (Pop-up)
Phundamental  Pino   Favoriting Sporadic Fault  Free Music Archive  *   0:15:56 (Pop-up)
The Candy Strypers  Born on a Train   Favoriting Dressing Up - The EPOP Covers (V/A)  Free Music Archive  *   0:20:12 (Pop-up)
Ergo Phizmiz  Papageno Drunk   Favoriting Two Harpsichord Miniatures on Mozart  Free Music Archive  *   0:24:25 (Pop-up)
Simon Mathewson  The Trans-Eurasian   Favoriting Resurgasm 2  Free Music Archive  *   0:25:15 (Pop-up)
Aden Ôhm  Negusa Nagast I   Favoriting La Loi De Morphine  Free Music Archive  *   0:30:29 (Pop-up)
Ample Mammal  Pushing Time   Favoriting Mating Season  Free Music Archive  *   0:33:30 (Pop-up)
RoccoW  This Little Piggy Danced   Favoriting Weeklybeats 2014  Free Music Archive  *   0:39:13 (Pop-up)
Alcrete  Song 2   Favoriting Live on If You Got Ears  Free Music Archive  *   0:42:00 (Pop-up)
Apache Tomcat  Look Up At the Clouds   Favoriting What's Later?  Free Music Archive  *   0:46:11 (Pop-up)
Wooden Shjips  Ruins   Favoriting Live on WFMU with Terese: Nov 18, 2013  Free Music Archive  *   0:48:02 (Pop-up)
Boogarins  Hoje Aprendi de Verdade   Favoriting Live on WFMU's Three Chord Monte with Joe Belock: March 25, 2014  Free Music Archive  *   0:53:42 (Pop-up)
Atlantic Thrills  Acid Rain   Favoriting Live on WFMU's Cherry Blossom Clinic with Terre T: Feb 8, 2014  Free Music Archive  *   0:59:10 (Pop-up)
Pampers  Shot   Favoriting Live on WFMU's Cherry Blossom Clinic with Terre T: Feb 15, 2014  Free Music Archive  *   1:02:42 (Pop-up)
Alek et Les Japonaises  Tori No Karaage   Favoriting Kokekokko    *   1:09:26 (Pop-up)
Lake  Circular Doorway   Favoriting Circular Doorway  Water Island  *   1:12:29 (Pop-up)
Natural Child  Bailando Con Lobos   Favoriting Dancin' With Wolves  Burger  *   1:15:25 (Pop-up)
Rockfire Funk Express  People Save the World   Favoriting People Save the World 7"  Third Man    1:17:44 (Pop-up)
Lee Ranaldo and The Dust  Blackout   Favoriting Last Night On Earth Demos and Rehearsals  Lazy 8  *   1:21:11 (Pop-up)
Ruined Fortune  Transparent Faces   Favoriting Ruined Fortune  Hozac  *   1:30:39 (Pop-up)
People's Temple  Crimson Rose   Favoriting Musical Garden  Hozac  *   1:36:03 (Pop-up)
Warm Soda  When Your Eyes Meet Mine   Favoriting Young Reckless Hearts  Castle Face  *   1:38:11 (Pop-up)
Fine Steps  3 Stereo   Favoriting All Day Long 7"  Volar  *   1:40:30 (Pop-up)
Connections  Miller's Grove   Favoriting Year One  Anyway  *   1:43:57 (Pop-up)
Smart Boys  Sacked   Favoriting A Different World Now 7"  Matador  *   1:45:36 (Pop-up)
Lenz  Airplanefiretruck   Favoriting Frozen Touch 7"  Volar  *   1:48:55 (Pop-up)
Teenage Burritos  Danya   Favoriting Danya 7"  Volar  *   1:50:32 (Pop-up)
999999999  Sick Dreams   Favoriting White Devils 7"  Hozac  *   1:52:46 (Pop-up)
Maniac  Dim Sum   Favoriting DIm Sum 7"  La-Ti-Da  *   1:54:57 (Pop-up)
Bran Flakes / Evolution Control Committee / Go Home Productions  Cindy Byrdsong   Favoriting Raymond Scott Rewired  Basta  *   2:03:19 (Pop-up)
Trin Tran  Eyes the Size   Favoriting Far Reaches  Castle Face  *   2:07:29 (Pop-up)
Malachi  Don't Try This At Home   Favoriting Beyond Ugly  Double Six  *   2:10:17 (Pop-up)
Trase  Sketch-1   Favoriting Trase  Finders Keepers    2:12:19 (Pop-up)
Torn Hawk  Money Only Becomes Money   Favoriting Bad Deadlift  Long Island Electrical Systems  *   2:17:50 (Pop-up)
Akkord  Smoke Circle   Favoriting Akkord  Houndstooth  *   2:21:08 (Pop-up)
Ibibio Sound Machine  Let's Dance   Favoriting Ibibio Sound Machine  Soundway  *   2:25:11 (Pop-up)
The Fall  Say Mama / Race with the Devil   Favoriting The Remainderer  Cherry Red  *   2:40:08 (Pop-up)
Pharoahs  Out of My Mind   Favoriting Moan  Burger  *   2:43:22 (Pop-up)
Bad Lovers  Freaks   Favoriting Wild Times  Burger  *   2:46:18 (Pop-up)
Dirty Fences  What's That Strange?   Favoriting Too High To Kross  Volcom  *   2:49:54 (Pop-up)
Guinea Worms  The Credit Card Slide   Favoriting Split 7" w/ The In-Out  Botulism Music  *   2:52:21 (Pop-up)
Radar Eyes  Positive Feedback   Favoriting Positive Feedback 7"  Hozac  *   2:55:47 (Pop-up)
Electric Eels  Jaguar Ride   Favoriting Jaguar Ride 7"  Hozac    2:58:54 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am

Good morning Liz and Lizners

mornin', Liz...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am

good morn liz, fred, all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am

good morning everybody.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
Jeroen Kuster:

Good morning Liz,common,dce and Fred
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:04am
Guido from Cologne:

Hello Liz and all the others!
Avatar 9:05am
Cheri Pi:

this is Lizsting along quite nicely.
Avatar 9:08am

Morning Liz and Lix fans
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:09am
Liz Berg:

Welcome everybody, good to see a healthy showing already today!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:10am
Sem Chumbo:

Hiya, Liz. Place is crowded this morning,
Avatar 9:13am

hi liz & steners.
thought for a sec this was coil. already starclicked.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:13am

@Sem: That's weird, usually people don't go to places that are this crowded. Then again, Liz is special
Avatar 9:15am

Morning, people and non-people!
Avatar 9:17am

So this monamie is really serbian? Nice...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:17am

I love how Liz starts smoothly yet soon gets into Lupicaish caffeinated territory
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:19am
Jeroen Kuster:

wow wow wow nice

See, its like mental cleansing through sound from the master purveyor... Hey Liz, and fellow listeners, good to be back!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:29am
Liz Berg:

Welcome back, Kosta! My volume knob gradually moves clockwise this morning.
Avatar 9:32am
Rev. Turnip Druid:

Peace be witchu.
Avatar 9:32am

gainsbourg would ve played idm in early 00s. for sure.
Avatar 9:36am

that's true, @bibi.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37am
Sem Chumbo:

@fred 9:13: out of the room for your Yogi Berra quote. Hahaha:)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:37am

ample mammal?

Back in a New York moog
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:38am
Jeroen Kuster:

Hi Liz and everyone.
I have to go but I'll definitely listen later
Thanks to next week

Hello everyone!

nnnice to catch the show live :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am
Liz Berg:

Good to have you here live, Lucas!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:46am

@Sem: I told you he was my 2nd fave philosopher. Seriously: "when you come to a fork in the road, take it", most people would say it's from some Zen monk, not a catcher

Yes! :) !

yo Fred!!
Avatar 9:48am

Another rainy Monday of gloom and despair. :Sigh:
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50am
Liz Berg:

Cheer up, Jeezy! We've got the Shjips!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:50am

Hey Lucas! We had no winter to speak of here, how was yours? Are you coming over for Sonic Protest?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am
Sem Chumbo:

@Jeezy: around here pessimists would say it couldn't get any worse than that, but the optimists would say it definitely could.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am
Ken From Hyde Park:

I guessed that Wooden Shijps was playing and the playlist confirmed it!
Avatar 9:52am

@fred, you cannot write this down without letting us know your top10 philosophers.
i keep the 'fork' one for my next chance to social excellence.
Avatar 9:52am

Thanks Liz & Sem! I shall try!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:53am

Optimists are never pleasantly surprised... 'Morning Liz, fellow Berglars.

Boogarin Nights

@fred: it was a kind winter. sadly i cant go for sonic protest :(
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05am

@bibi: 10 may stretch it, but here it comes:
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Yogi Berra
Groucho Marx
Bertrand Russell
Karl Popper
Saul Kripke
John Locke
John Rawls
X.Ray Burns
W.V. Quine

Hey Liz
Avatar 10:09am

wittgenstein, oh boy, de la certitude remains my worst reading ever.
but i pick popper up.
and russell for a very anecdotic reason you might guess...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am
Liz Berg:

I'm so glad X.Ray Burns made it to your top 10, Fred!
Avatar 10:13am

your turn liz, we are all so curious...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:14am

Russell was so funny, his bitchy put downs of people he disliked were great, and he knew how to pace the fun breaks from the serious stuff. I've read the Tractatus well over twenty times, I love it even more than PI. On Certainty is kinda weak, too repetitive
Avatar 10:19am
fred von helsing:

hey fred thanx for the ptr to massicot. they sound... different :)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19am

@Liz: I couldn't leave him out, he's an icon. Seriously, his solo "fill-ins" are amazing radio, he clued me to Atoms, Motion, and the Void, which is great radio. He's a clown, and a wise one
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am

@FVH: you should see them live, the only predictable thing is that they'll be better
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21am
Liz Berg:

I regret to say I'm not so well-versed in philosophy. Spent most of my higher education in science labs. Read a few tomes here and there (Sartre, Derrida, etc), but I wouldn't say I subscribe to any in particular.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23am
Liz Berg:

Maybe you guys can suggest some reading for me?!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23am

Liz the scientist! I love it
Avatar 10:25am

on certainty is an aphorism greatest hits. so over 100 pages it's just unbearable if not from a funky one like cioran or kierkegaard...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:26am

@Liz: I may be French, but you probably know much more about French philosophy than I do. I tried to read those guys but wouldn't recommend them except as sleep aids. Though Marx and Keynes can't be beat for sleep-inducing, if all fails you can beat yourself to sleep, there are hefty works
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am

@fred: was gonna say, a conspicuous lack of French philosophers. Years ago, a friend of mine much better versed in philosophy than I am guided me through Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals, which is a really tough but rewarding reading, another treasure trove of aphorisms, like most of his work.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28am

@bibi: never tried Cioran or Kierkegaard. They look too sentimental for me, I may be wrong about that. I've a great track record of being wrong about stuff
Sonofnothing - Wallkill, NY:

Good stuff here!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32am
Guido from Cologne:

Only read secundary literature and quotations.
For sure I hate Heidegger for bothering the reader with his horrible syntax constructions (more focus on syntax constructions than essencial ideas ... obnoxious).
Russel was good in explaining things (read his history of philosophy).
Wittgenstein helped to put the focus on building blocks of thoughts and kicked some inpulses into informatics.
Walter Benjamin put the right questions long before the dawn of Andy Warhol.
Avatar 10:32am

the best way to philosphy maybe remains the good old greek fashion, talking under a tree, or around a nice wfmu show.
@fred, yr list suggested well you are not a sentimental one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33am

@mariano: I tried but could never make it through any of Nietzche's books, sophomoric to me. To paraphrase Russell in his bitchy mode: for someone so keen on the Super Man, he seemed all to eager to get whipped by a dominatrix
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35am

@Guido: yeah, Benjamin, and Auerbach -- Mimesis was another big milestone read for me, as for a lot of people.
@fred: well, give the guy a break, he did have syphilis! Besides, the whole Uebermensch thing gets overemphasized with him, I believe. But I do appreciate Russell's bitchiness.
Avatar 10:35am

@fred: best comment possible on Nietzsche
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:36am

@bibi: I'm a software developer by trade, and I've often said I saw that as applied philosophy. Wittgenstein is directly useful there, French philosophers not at all
Avatar 10:36am

I think Walter Benjamin is an essential reading for today's world, one of the few writers I look for "guidance" (whatever that means).
Avatar 10:37am

Plus he's relatively easy to read, writing in a kinda poetic way.
Avatar 10:39am

@mariano, i do agree, the uebermensch is a regular & easy misinterpretation.
yeah, benjamin, thats a good idea for liz, it's a very pleasant (philosophical) reading.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40am

@mariano: Russell always made it clear he was switching into what I call "bitchy mode", and the total lack of fairness was part of the fun, like his routine about his being the Pope
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40am
Guido from Cologne:

Nietsche was kinda punkt the 19th centuriy Burgeois intellectuals. I read Zarathustra: I doupt if it's really philosophy.
Avatar 10:42am

I imagine Nietzsche and Wagner as the 19th century equivalent of the Sex Pistols
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:44am

@fred: Nietzsche was always in bitchy mode too, which is why I like aphorisms, whether they make sense or not. He just seems like someone fun to sit with at a tavern and listen to him hold forth. Don't know if he has much status as a serious philosopher these days, but AJ Ayer has lots of really cool stories associated with him, like when he confronted Mike Tyson (Ayer was in his 70s and looked a good bit like Orville Redenbacher) and got him to back down.
Avatar 10:44am

Today's the 50th "anniversary" of Brazilian military coup d'état. I'm standing in expectation for the day to be over as the pile of shit celebrating it gets bigger and bigger
(sorry for the bitter comment)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:44am
Guido from Cologne:

Thank you doca for helping me with my horrible typos (i meant "kinda punk to the 19th centuriy Burgeois intellectuals")
Avatar 10:46am

@Guido: punkt is the third person for the german verb "punken"? ich punke, du punkst, er punkt...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:46am
Ken From Hyde Park:

Copies of philosophy texts online for free - www.classicly.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am

@Liz: you must wonder where this came from, like which track started this
Avatar 10:48am

Nobody said Plato? I think he was a really great writer (there was even controversy in ancient times regarding this, as he usually condemned fiction but was considered a great fiction writer). Also Aristotle, I always think I'm reading stand-up comedy when I read him
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48am
Guido from Cologne:

I if "punk" was a verb it could work.

Avatar 10:49am

Is there actually a verb Punken?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49am

@Guido & fred: part of the reason Nietzsche resonated with me is that I have a bit of a Classics background, so when I read him saying that Greek philosophy started going downhill with Socrates, it really made me take notice: I like a nice competing narrative, especially given the reverence with which Classics are usually approached.
Avatar 10:50am

@drums: I think not eheh I guess in German it is not so easy to create verbs as it is in English, but I'm only guessing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51am
Guido from Cologne:

Plato in today's evaluation would be considered a fashist .. just sayin'
Avatar 10:51am

I hated Plato when I tried to read him in my greek classes. Maybe in another language it's more... entertaining
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52am

Ok, this calls for the Philosophers' Drinking Song maybe.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53am

@doca: I put Popper in my top ten, his criticism of Plato was convincing to me. And I had been (academically) raised to worship Plato
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:53am
Guido from Cologne:

Classical Philosophy: different times and models of thinking. I actually read some Cicero's philosophical fictional debates of rivaling philosophical schools. Can be pretty odd to today's brain. Plato can be alsp pretty odd.
Avatar 10:54am

@Guido: that's true, but this concept doesn't do justice to his philosophy. Besides, I think most ancient philosophers or philosophers until the 19th century would fall on that category.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54am
Guido from Cologne:

No verb "punken" in "official German", but you coul invent one.
Avatar 10:55am

@fred: I've never read Popper, though everybody talks about falseability and those things.
Ah for Liz, I think Foucault is one guy you can start reading and then spreading out from there.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55am

I've never had dim sum, have you?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:56am

DCE: Never had dim sum?!? Oh Lord, to hell with philosophy, this is something serious! You need to get a group of about 10 people and hit your nearest Chinatown!
Avatar 10:58am

Every time I hear this "Boots" bed music, I want to hear the Nancy Sinatra version.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:59am
Guido from Cologne:

Ancient Greece was suffering from too much corruption. Russel had described Sparta (proto fashist military state) as the ancient Greek's ideal desire for law and order and in the following adds a quote by Aristoteles "you can get nothing working in Sparta without payola". Like it was Soviet Union already.
Avatar 10:59am

@guido, even reading some early xxth philosophy can be scary, for example racism was a regular statement to many very smart people.
Avatar 11:00am

I guess then "Ich punke jeden tag"
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Gotta lunch, no dim sum tough. Great philosophy and music to you all
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:01am
Guido from Cologne:

paula pc:

liz YAY you know science!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03am

Yeah, Liz: this board is for all those people who say this kinda music is nothing but brain rot!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:04am

'ello folks
I'm very excited for Cibo Matto too. :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:06am

Raymond Scott Rewired:
Thanks, Liz!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07am
Guido from Cologne:

also 7 star-click from me @ this show.
Do I remeber that right: Otis Fodder of Bran Flakes was also somehow active with WFMU?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:08am

Ancient Greek society, for all the talk of democracy, was, depending on the location, pretty undemocratic by our standards. For women it was something similar to living under the Taliban. And Plato's Republic? No theater (and presumably no TV or cinema then) and all music and poetry had to be in praise of the state? Sounds a lot like North Korea.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:09am
Guido from Cologne:

We made a long way:
2000 years!
And still nothing is for guarantee!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:10am
Guido from Cologne:

Trin Tran : 8th star click ;-)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:12am

@bibi: Fanon can be scary too. Mandatory reading no matter how uncomfortable, but Said is more hopeful
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:14am

phew, just had an extended battle with the server, but now I'm back on
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16am
Liz Berg:

I'm loving all of the philosophy recommendations and debates, thanks you guys! Guido, Otis Fodder did the 365 Days Project and was in charge of WFMU's blog for a while.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:18am

@Liz: don't ask me how we got there
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:19am
Guido from Cologne:

Was in contact with Otis briefely when I was involved in a net-label thing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:21am

@fred: as so often is the case, it was Yogi Berra.
Avatar 11:30am

Good morning Liz and vast peoples.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:31am
Sem Berra:

@fred 11:18:I wish I had an answer to that because I'm tired of answering that question.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:32am

@mariano: we're safe then, I got scared for a while
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:33am

@Sem: easy: we came to the fork and we took it
Avatar 11:35am

Cibo Matto! Yes!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:36am

Bettye Lavette and Bob Mould on the same ticket, playing Paul Simon? Whoa!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:36am
Guido from Cologne:

No Ben watt @ Trouble this Week !!!

Trouble wrote @ FaceBook:
"Due to crazy ass red tape Ben Watt has had to postpone his US visit. So no Ben this week. We will reschedule...."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:37am

@Sem: that Yogi Berra quip actually did start that philosophy talk. No joke, it did. Shame might be involved
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:38am
Sem Chumbo:

You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you are going, because you might not get there:)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:40am
Sem Chumbo:

and that is the last one for today. Next week: Marcus Aurelius.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:42am

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@fred, is mark e smith 11th on yr philosophers list ?!
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Cheri Pi:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:44am

@bibi: MES is first on his own list, he wouldn't have it any other way
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one MES cant be wrong.
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Sean D. Daily:

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out-consume
Schopenhauer and Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya'
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates himself was permanently pissed...

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away;
Half a crate of whiskey every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am"
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed!

(thanks to Monty Python, BTW)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46am

I'll get in on that conversation, fred!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:46am

@bibi: again: are you going to another Sonic Protest show, besides Merzbow?
Avatar 11:55am

@fred, not overly excited by other dates, maybe 12th could make it. an exhaustive saturday prog.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:57am

Great discussion provoking show, Liz, thanks to you and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58am

I'm not excited either, but I'll be there. You'll know me by the bright red WFMU bag, come and say hi if you see me
Avatar 11:59am

no need to say the show was great, liz. 8 on guido scale tells a lot.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:00pm
Guido from Cologne:

It's already 11 star clicks.
I would have been even more if I wasn't working!
Avatar 12:02pm

11 on guido scale, i can fell the ground shaking.
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Billy Jam:

amazing show……midway into it - in archives and loving every song
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