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Options February 6, 2014: Remembering Philip Seymour Hoffman

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments Approx. start time
Philip Seymour Hoffman's Death Announced - audio courtesy of AP
Opening Comments
A Woman on Bethune Street at The Pickwick House - Residence of the late, Philip Seymour Hoffman
Philip Seymour Hoffman Basketball Scene from the motion picture, "Along Came Polly" 2004 - Universal
Were You Shocked?
Willy Nelson  Angel Flying Too Close to the Ground   Options Willie Nelson's Greatest Hits (And Some That Will Be)  Columbia  1981  2LP     
Another Mourner Interviewed at the Pickwick House Memoria
Philip Seymour Hoffman and Meryl Streep from the Motion Picture, Doubt - Miramax - 2008
Makeshift Memorial
In the DIner
Addicts In Your Own Life
The Scariest Part
Opiate Addiction - Dr. Drew - audio courtesy of CNN
Everything to Live For
Elvis Presley  Are You Lonesome Tonight   Options Elvis In Concert  RCA  1977  2LP     
More To It
Rehab Paradise
Steppenwolf  The Pusher   Options Steppenwolf Gold  ABC Dunhill  1971  LP  Written by Hoyt Axton, from the movie, Easy Rider (1969)   
Philip Seymour Hoffman from the motion picture, Almost Famous - Columbia/Dreamworks - 2000
Talking with Sandra at Pickwick House
Negatively Affected
  Sorry about the distorted "S's" Need new Microcassette.
Heath Ledger Death Report - Anne Thompson Reporting - audio courtesy of CBS.
Clean for 22 Years
Talking Smack
Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton from the Motion Picture, "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" - Warner Bros. - 1966
An Interview with Pat at Pickwick House
From Colorado
Philip Seymour Hoffman from the Motion Picture, "Capote." - United Artists/Sony - 2005
Has Anyone Youve Known Struggled With Addiction?
Alice In Chains  Junkhead   Options Dirt  Columbia  1992  MP3  Audio insert - MTV News report of Alice in Chain's front-man, Layne Staley's death. April 5th, 2002   
Talking With Mark
Paying Respects
The Village Is Morose
Philip Seymour Hoffman from the Motion Picture, "Magnolia," - New Line Cinema - 1999
Another Pat
A Legacy
Philip Seymour Hoffman and Laura Linney from the motion picture, "Savages," - Universal - 2012
More with Pat
Lou Reed  Heroin   Options     2008  MP3  Hoffman Alleged Drug Providers Busted - audio courtesy of CNN - Music from a Velvet Underground documentary. Which one? I don't know ... tell me (dusty@wfmu.org)   
Talking with Claire at Pickwick House
Much Too Young
Philip Seymour Hoffman from the Motion Picture, "Capote." - United Artists/Sony - 2005
Can Anything Good Come Out of Something Like This?
Pink Floyd  Comfortably Numb   Options The Wall  Harvest / EMI  1979  MP3  Features audio clip from Dr. Cyril Wecht, Forensic Pathologist, Allegheny Co. Medical Examiner - audio courtesy of WPXI-TV.   
An Interview with Ilsa
  Artist Personality
"You Don't Have Your Life If You're Addicted"
Philip Seymour Hoffman with Jeff Bridges from the motion picture, "The Big Lebowski." Gramercy Pictures - 1998
Talking with Tom at Pickwick House on Bethune St. in the West Village
Lost Soul
Escaping the Bounds of Conventional Reality
Philip Seymour Hoffman from the motion picture, "The Master." The Weinstein Company - 2012
Lynyrd Skynyrd  That Smell   Options Street Survivors  MCA  1977  MP3  Audio clip - Philip Seymour Hoffman on CBS', "60 Minutes."   
Visiting With Lisa
Stronger Than Us
How Will You Most Remember Philip Seymour Hoffman?
Philip Seymour Hoffman from "Charlie Wilson's War," - Universal - 2007
Randy Newman  Lonely At The Top   Options Sail Away  Reprise  1972  LP  Inconclusive Autopsy Results ausio clip courtesy of Real News   
Philip Seymour Hoffman and Adam Sandler "Shut Up!" audio from the motion picture, "Punch Drunk Love," Columbia/New Line Cinema - 2002
Miles Davis - The Tape Turn
  I accidentally didn't fast forward my cassette sufficiently before I flipped it over. Thusly, I omitted the name of one of my next interview subject on the show. Cindy and Colleen, in from Maryland.
Program People
  I should have "cut that out."
The Gateway Out
Pillhead Grandmother
  Listen Carefully ... you can hear the batteries in my microcassette recorder shake because I am shivering. Two hours in the cold winter night had taken their toll.
Silver Lining
The Promise
River Phoenix' Death Announcement - audio courtesy of FOX 13 News at 9 - October 31st, 1993
An Interview with Catherine at The Pickwick House
You Never Know ... At Any Moment
  I don't know if he "had everything" .,. who knows what he felt? A cliche.
Inches Away From Using
Words to the Young User
Another Decision
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Oscar Acceptance Speech Excerpt - Best Actor - Capote - 2005
Neil Young  The Needle And The Damage Done (Live)   Options Harvest  Reprise  1972  LP  Sums it up ... RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman, and every soul lost to addicition.   
Closing Comments - Miles Davis -
  Thank you for listening to this episode of The Dusty Show. Sunday morning, I had casually mentioned to my wife how much I enjoyed Philip Seymour Hoffman in Capote. Next thing I knew, I was online and I read the news. Totally shocking. In a way that seemed to be bigger than the "average" celebrity death. A real and palpable loss. Yet, I didn't head off to the death-site with my microcassette. Didn't really think of doing so,

Tuesday, I was downtown getting a haircut and afterward I felt like walking home. I must have had it in the back of my mind because I had my tape recorder with me. I looked up the address and walked to Bethune Street in the West Village. It was a spooky feeling, knowing my destination was not only a place I hadn't seen before, but also a place of sadness and death. Seeing all the flowers and drawings and cards, etc, layed against the entryway of the building, it was immediately evident that this was a somber thing. Quiet. Personal. It was also cold and kind of late to be doing interviews. Maybe 8:30pm. Once I got started though, it was very natural. The show veered towards being more about addiciton itself than Philip Seymour Hoffman, but I hope that was all right. I noticed that many who happened by were recovered addicts. Perhaps it was some type of neccesary reminder to keep vigilant in sobriety. All were touched by Hoffman and his artistry, and those who'd encountered him had only pleasant things to say.

I sometimes feel a kind of delayed reaction in dealing with the emotions surrounding death. Now, a few days after, if I'm still, I can feel the loss and the pain of it ... and it leads to other doors and stories of other people. Stars, friends, acquaintences, who've fallen to drug addiction. It puts it in your face, just what a sad shame it is that it happens over and over. Perhaps it always will. We are alive, though, and there is more life to live. I hope you have a safe journey through and that you find your answers and have much happiness along the way. We'll spare a thought for our brothers and sisters who couldn't make the trip, and we'll always remember.

Philip Seymour Hoffman - July 23, 1967 - February 2, 2014

Clay Pigeon - NYC 271499

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Listener comments!

Avatar 6:02pm kat330:

Hello, Clay. Important show tonight.
Avatar 6:02pm david_:

greetings, all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:02pm Matt from Springfield:

46 is the new 27.
Hey Clay and Pigeoneers! Nice Willie number.
Avatar 6:03pm Clay Pigeon:

Hello P-pul!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Owlex:

My favorite PSH flick was Love Liza, it turned me onto Jim O' Rourke and gasoline huffing
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Marcel M:

Whats up everyone. Hi clay. I didn't know he was an addict. Used to see him downtown every now and then.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm Matt from Springfield:

Doubt (2008) is a great film. Even more interesting how it was expanded from a one-act stage play with only 4 characters: the priest, Mother Superior, young nun and the boy's mother.
  6:04pm LovecraftDude888:

was that guy arrested dealer really once in james chance and the Contortions? Couldn't believe that one...but did
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm Matt from Springfield:

Hey Lovecraft, Marcel, Owlex, david, kat and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm Marcel M:

@ Lovecraftdude, whaaaaat??? What dealer?? Thats so random. Hey Matt!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:05pm dale:

listening in the snowy north. good skiing i'll bet for you this weekend clay.

i think i've only seen him in capote, but he was pretty brilliant.
  6:06pm LovecraftDude888:

Marcel...the guy that's still accused or in custody....was supp. once in James Chance and der Contortions...supposedly
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:06pm Marcel M:

I saw him in a play once, called "Jack Goes Boating." Was a play before a movie.
  6:07pm LovecraftDude888:

Robert Vineberg....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm Matt from Springfield:

@dale: Boogie Nights? Charlie Wilson's War? The Talented Mr. Ripley?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm Matt from Springfield:

Grass is good. And safer than most drugs too!
  6:09pm marmalade:

Avatar 6:09pm david_:

The 22-23 years clean before relapse seems like the most frightening part of this...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm dale:

don't get out much matt
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm Marcel M:

Rolling up a spliff now Matt!!
  6:10pm Uncle Sam:

Our presence in Afghanistan speaks volumes.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Matt from Springfield:

@Marcel: Goes hand-in-hand with the Dusty Show!
  6:11pm LovecraftDude888:

Robert Vineberg aka Rober Aaron....he was in some stage of James Chance's band...or bands....was playing with Wyclef Jean apparently recently....supposedly had fallen on hard times and started dealing again. Oof. This is the chinatown guy...but no proof yet so let's not condemn him yet....unless he was the guy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm Marcel M:

@Matt: That and just about everything else I do! :-)
  6:12pm LovecraftDude888:

was gonna say was anybody on here at NYU in the mid to late 80s and was it as rife with drugs and debauchery as I'd heard?
Avatar 6:12pm earrie:

Identifying clips anyone?
Last one was his portrayal of Lester Bangs in Almost Famous, I think?
Avatar 6:13pm steve:

hey Clay! so sad about PSH, i agree with Fabio, its just pathetic for someone to check out that early from shooting heroin... what a loss. can't help but wonder... why?? is it the pressures of stardom?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm Matt from Springfield:

Or was it 14 years sober before relapse? I'll have to find a reliable source.

Hey steve!
Avatar 6:15pm steve:

hey Matt and fellow Pidgeonaires and Clayniacs!
  6:15pm LovecraftDude888:

I think the pressures are part for sure....but Phil said he got going in late college or just post NYU days....I mean...it's not hard to get going in student days and have trouble from there....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm Matt from Springfield:

Wow, listening to his Capote voice makes me appreciate his acting even more. How long must he have worked to get that voice right.
  6:17pm LovecraftDude888:

I read he was supp. sober for almost 22 years.....
Avatar 6:17pm david_:

my understanding of a heroin OD on relapse means a relapsed addict probably used an amount closer to their tolerance level before quitting, therefore are more likely to OD... what they say happened to Gram Parsons...
  6:17pm mike da scag:

I'm an addict in recovery, and everybody is getting it wrong when they say that he should have been smarter and recognize all the good things he had. When you are an addict or alcoholic, there is no defense against stepping back into a life of drinking and drugging. There is only a daily reprieve.
  6:18pm please:

make it stop.
Avatar 6:19pm kat330:

@mike: No doubt that's true. But do not bring children into your personal hell.
Avatar 6:19pm david_:

great voice on that layne staley.
Avatar 6:19pm Clay Pigeon:

Hanging out with Station Manager Ken. He said Philip Seymour Hoffman was his favorite actor.
Avatar 6:20pm steve:

i agree, lane staley had a great voice!
Avatar 6:20pm Clay Pigeon:

I'll note all these clips on the playlist.
Avatar 6:21pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm Matt from Springfield:

@mike: That's very difficult, thanks for sharing your story.

I haven't experienced anything comparable, but they say the physical and mental addiction it creates is so bad, the only way to be free of heroin is to never start it.
  6:21pm LovecraftDude888:

I think the main point is something triggers the relapse..depression..whatever it is...and that's the crux of the matter esp. in a case like Philip's. Besides the addiction per se....I could be wrong but.... and if there aren't massive supports in place, forget it. Given if he was clean for 22 years....it gives some hope at least...for some
Avatar 6:21pm Clay Pigeon:

Excuse distortion and levels. This show is all cassette and edited on the fly.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm Matt from Springfield:

@Lovecraft: That's true too, something that triggers your mental state of the past can cause a relapse back into drugs.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm Owlex:

Listener Equalizer: Share the responsibility
Avatar 6:23pm steve:

one of my best friends from high school got into heroin when he was in college and watching him rot over those ~2 years was one of the nastiest, most awful things i've ever seen. can't imagine what it was like to actually BE the addict himself. i wouldnt touch that stuff for a million bucks.
Avatar 6:23pm david_:

Neurons shooting back to that dark place in the brain... pretty crazy...
Avatar 6:24pm Clay Pigeon:

That's the spirit Owlex.
  6:24pm blah:

blah blah
  6:24pm tom:

the savages was a good film
Avatar 6:24pm Whooda:

greatness does not come without a cost. An artist is on a permanent merry-go-round to be "better" with every performance or achievement. That is not an innocent ambition.
  6:24pm LovecraftDude888:

Matt...yeah, or even just to depression or whatever, not even nec. a relapse to drugs....that's true. But what pisses me off a bit is other rock stars and people have almost "glamorized" other things like meth...i don't like that at all...Andy Eldritch doing his "meth" I don't know that i even believe he did that much..I think he's full of shit...he'd be dead by now. I hope!
Avatar 6:24pm kat330:

The Savages was particularly affecting for me. Saw it while my own siblings and I dealt with a mother in assisted care.
Avatar 6:25pm steve:

"and if there aren't massive supports in place, forget it." yup
Avatar 6:25pm david_:

good point Whooda.
Avatar 6:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

People always say an actor was especially great when they pass prematurely - but sounds like this time - it might indeed be true...

Perhaps the horrific irony of dying w/ the needle in your arm tends towards indicating *not* being a recent &/or experienced user ? Especially exalted Singer Tim Buckley is reported to have died *because* he'd been cleaner & didn't have the tolerance any longer
...Anyhow - tending to contradict Miike Doughty on a recent Dave Hill show here & side w/ John Lydon in 'Filth & Fury' (reflecting on his pal Sid): 'recreational heroin' is bullshit: the dangers of addiction & overdose are simply too prevalent.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm Matt from Springfield:

@steve: To see another human fall into that is terrible to see, but it's the fact that you care about the person that makes it truely painful.
Avatar 6:25pm Clay Pigeon:

Me too, kat.
  6:26pm Blah:

Blah Blah!
Avatar 6:26pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...& Meth don't mean anybody any good either...
  6:26pm LovecraftDude888:

well...with any of that type of thing, massive supports..but heroin is just one of the absolute worst of the worst things to relapse or be addicted TO...that's the thing nevermind alcohol or whatever....
  6:27pm LovecraftDude888:

no such as recreational....doesn't exist
  6:27pm drewo:

re: Mott St. arrests. So the disheveled guy that quickly came in and out of Rubirosa restaurant on Mulberry Street near closing time Tuesday night last week, about whom I remarked to my wife 'looks like a banged-up Philip Seymour Hoffman', may have been the late actor.
Avatar 6:27pm kat330:

Clearly happiness is NOT a warm gun, literally or metaphorically....
Avatar 6:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Jerry Garcia died in Rehab trying to kick: It's no small thing.
Avatar 6:28pm david_:

People not wanting to jeopardize their connects with someone famous to hold them accountable... Though they're wildly different stories, I can't help but think of the parallel to Woody Allen. Mind you I don't think the two are similar at all...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm Matt from Springfield:

@RRN63: "Recreational heroin"--much like the group calling themselves "Leftover Crack" (give or take a few umlauts)--it just doesn't exist.

As for meth, Krokodil, spice, street "quaalude", any artificial drug is bound to be super destructive.
  6:29pm LovecraftDude888:

I doubt Phil started off with heroin right off....must have started with pot, coke...or pills first. I would imagine. I mean,....why start off with that? But it's possible, of course.
Avatar 6:29pm earrie:

So when ppl relapse, why i it fair game for making money off of in the media-content arenas? That's pretty sick, eh?
Avatar 6:29pm david_:

Seems like heroin resurges every 20 years or so, no? 2014, 1994, 1974...
Avatar 6:30pm kat330:

@Lovecraftdude: I heard on some news report he began with prescription pain pills.
  6:30pm LovecraftDude888:

earrie...sure it's sick...pure $ making sensationalism. I dunno how I feel about Dr. Drew or whatever...I mean if it helps anyone, great...but it's hard to see it that way when $ is being made
  6:31pm LovecraftDude888:

kat...that I HADN'T heard! or maybe...that would prob. make more sense to me. anything that got the ball rolling of course...
  Swag For Life Member 6:31pm sibeliuss:

really moving show today dusty
Avatar 6:31pm kat330:

So will Rush out on a Limbaugh for heroin, too?
Avatar 6:32pm Whooda:

@david that is true but also it's often the artist that can't stand the criticism, even if it's true and that 'tough love' can send an unstable artist (I dare you to show me a 'stable' artist) into a place even worse than where they are.
  6:32pm LovecraftDude888:

I'm also wondering if the problem gets worse when the economy tanks and recessions and things turn crap....I"m sure that has to be true, as well....I think?
Avatar 6:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Prescription opiates - often for a legitimate medical reason - are often the doorway into heroin. Kurt Cobain had a difficult to diagnose & painful stomach condition...& was AWOL from Rehab for the 2nd time when he blew his own gead off.
Avatar 6:32pm earrie:

Hoofs to the head when people are down at their very lowest. It's cruel.
Avatar 6:32pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

  6:33pm LovecraftDude888:

RR: that is easily seen how the two intertwine...very easily
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm Matt from Springfield:

@Lovecraft: Not sure of the stats, but it appears to be stronger in downturns.
  6:34pm LovecraftDude888:

ahah! Matt..thanks. I figured as much. I pretty much have observed that..or figured I had, over the years. Certainly the problem on LI the past few years has been reported to death.
Avatar 6:34pm david_:

true about the "tough love" thing, Whooda.
Avatar 6:35pm Whooda:

The mind is too powerful to forget that we can't absolutely control our own. It controls us sometimes. A simple misguided neuron can send one into an epileptic episode.
Avatar 6:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- sometimes it's just the size of the crop coming out of Afghanistan - but also the Politrix surrounding that.
  6:36pm LovecraftDude888:

Whooda..yep that's totally utterly true...most of us just go around and don't worry about it...but in my case having had depression and such....panic attacks..etc. I can see how it can easily just go wrong or have issues in a split second! and that's sans drugs....
Avatar 6:37pm david_:

gotta wonder about the resurgence in heroin and the "drawdown" in Afghanistan...
  6:37pm LovecraftDude888:

L Ron Hubbard getting a bit testy! hehe!
Avatar 6:37pm kat330:

Has anyone interviewed mentioned Almost Famous yet?
  6:37pm LovecraftDude888:

how dare you attack my crackpot cult bullshit religion! harrrr I just watched that movie and was dying laughing....
Avatar 6:38pm Whooda:

@LCD Yes exactly, I have had about four panic attacks and once had a rope around my neck. That shit is real and beyond control.
  6:38pm drewo:

Afghanistan keeps turning over record crop amounts. It's a great time to be a heroin seller and buyer. So to speak.
Avatar 6:38pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Newer studies show it has more to do w/ brain chemistry & structure than Moral Fiber or Will of any kind. & - incidentally - 'Just Say No' is exactly the *wrong* strategy - because it still focuses on the Drug !! As every therapist & treatment expert knows - you have to remove the entire Environment & Social scene connected to it...
  6:38pm just wonderin':

how many bags were found in his apt.?
Avatar 6:38pm david_:

makes sense drewo.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm Matt from Springfield:

My heart goes out to you, Whooda.
  6:39pm LovecraftDude888:

Whooda...oh man sorry about that. I was just saying, even things like that the balance can go off very easily without drugs or whatever. Even mildly....of course chemistry is a major part of it
  6:39pm djelrock:

Sad sad sad but you would have to wonder if the rehab center shares any responsability in this.
  6:40pm LovecraftDude888:

makes me think of David Lynch going off about "sugar is pure happiness"...but trouble is, like any stimulant...it only lasts a short time usually...the positive effect. etc.
Avatar 6:40pm Whooda:

Not a problem, thanks for the concern everyone.
  6:40pm djelrock:

Why are my comments getting cut off Mr. Webmaster???
  6:41pm drewo:

The needle used to be a tipping point for recreational drug users. But a lot of people have no problems these days with multiple piercings or tattoos, so another needle is not such a deal breaker.
Avatar 6:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Keith Richards: "My high became the look on those people's faces when I said 'No'"...
  6:41pm djelrock:

So why is alcohol legal??? Why isn't it a controlled substance? It can be considered a gateway vehicle.
Avatar 6:42pm kat330:

Relying on chemistry alone to help or solve addiction seems as unreasonable as counseling / therapy alone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm Matt from Springfield:

My late Uncle Bart died young, short of 40, indirectly because of past heroin use. RIP Uncle...
  6:42pm LovecraftDude888:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm Owlex:

Rabbit: HA
Avatar 6:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

You can overdose snorting: G.G. Allin did - as a Comic Strip linked to on the HomePage tweets related (remember 'Pulp Fiction'?)...
Avatar 6:44pm kat330:

Believe a bit in everything, and you'll fall for nothing in particular.
Avatar 6:44pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

Punch-Drunk Love
  6:45pm LovecraftDude888:

oh yeah G. G. Allin....right. meanwhile Darby Crash..c'mon that guy was on a Death Wish Mission from Day one and made no bones about it...which is really absurd to me...I mean...whatever. That type of thing I DON'T understand...the drugs apart from that
Avatar 6:45pm Whooda:

djelrock Alcohol or some equivalent depressant is very welcomed in most every house for millennia. Those that tried to prohibit it found out that prohibition only created more problems.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:46pm Matt from Springfield:

@RRN63: "Girl, you'll be a woman, soon...."
  6:46pm earrie:

Thanks for that, Kenzo.
Charlie Wilson's War before that. Coarse, learned Finnish..
  6:47pm LovecraftDude888:

as for Layne Staley...well....read his life history look at what he came out of.....and his dad being an addict and wildman...etc. etc. I'm not that surprised hearing that stuff...I mean...I dunno. Could be genetic...upbringing too..all those causes as well.
  6:47pm djelrock:

There's this wonderful drug called Suboxone/Subutex which has helped many adicts. Why wasn't PSH on it? Wondering minds wanna know.
Avatar 6:47pm Clay Pigeon:

You can hear the batteries in my microcassette rattling. It was cold! Botched that tape turn. Better get ready for Hearty. Thanks for listening everyone. I've enjoyed your comments. Take care. Always remember ... Philip Seymour Hoffman
  6:48pm Mommy:

There is use and abuse. Do no harm.
  6:48pm LovecraftDude888:

hey...I used to go to the GreenDoorNYC parties...hehe....but I always knew when to put cork in bottle. But many cannot.
Avatar 6:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- for every Alcoholic or Problem Drinker - there are 1,000s & 1,000s of Recreational or Social Drinkers: I would suggest this is *not* true of Smack...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm Owlex:

Shivering Batteries YES!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:48pm Matt from Springfield:

@Lovecraft: Look at the Barrymore family--with Drew B and long before, genetic predispositions to addiction, and their individual environments didn't help them either.
  6:49pm drewo:

Just watched extended version of Almost Famous the last two days. Great movie. Better than I recalled the first time around.
  6:49pm LovecraftDude888:

I was def. a social drinker at most....go out and have a night out at GDNYC or whatever, then not drink for months...or a year....Matt....right for sure there's gotta be a genetic thing there.
Avatar 6:49pm kat330:

I'm still hearing / understanding that people with addiction issues have some self-awareness of it -- whether they can ever overcome it or not -- so I must question why such self-destructive people bring children into the world. Condoms are easily obtained in the U.S.

Bank Street -- I used to live on Bank Street.
  6:50pm LovecraftDude888:

well in Phil's case...clearly he was clean when they had kids...sounds like. So.....I mean he thought he'd beaten it!
  6:50pm djelrock:

True about alcohol Dooha and RevolutionaryRabbit. Smack is much worse.
Avatar 6:51pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

If all the self-aware people refused to procreate, the world would be filled with only the most oblivious.
Avatar 6:51pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Burroughs suggested that what Junkies *like* about Addiction is that it takes Decision-Making & looking for Purpose out of life : you need this - & that is all.
Avatar 6:52pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...which may happen Kenzo.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Matt from Springfield:

CLAY! We keep saying: QUIT - FOR - GOOD! Easier said than done, but you got to make a final break with cigs!
Avatar 6:52pm Clay Pigeon:

You guys are smart!
  6:52pm LovecraftDude888:

yeah it doesn't hold water..even Keef has had kids and all that and it didn't stop him!! them.. I mean
  6:52pm marmalade:

look for the ledge beyond the edge
Avatar 6:53pm Clay Pigeon:

I like that Marmalade.
Avatar 6:53pm Whooda:

Clay, I have stopped smoking 25 years ago and last night was thinking of starting again, crazy shit. I might have been more eager if they weren't so expensive now. They were about $2 / pack when I quit.
  6:53pm earrie:

Do something else (more healthy) when triggered.
Avatar 6:53pm kat330:

@LCD: Perhaps. But PSH was too aware of himself, his psyche -- he had to be to be such a consummate actor. Maybe it was some really bum batch, and he never intended it to be his end. I dunno. I just think of the children left behind.
  6:53pm Robb:

Quit smoking Clay!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Owlex:

These comments/episode feels like therapy. Well done clay
  6:54pm LovecraftDude888:

hell I used to hang at The Bank that goth club...those people were too Goth to do drugs! heehee..I hope
Avatar 6:54pm david_:

I can see PSH's death giving some clean addicts cause for pause, and others a reason to start again...
  6:54pm LovecraftDude888:

who needed drugs!?
Avatar 6:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Keef: 'In all deference to the poppy - I didn't have a cold in 20 years!'
- but people also tell of him turning blue & having to 'walk' him to keep him breathing & alive - so his cavalier attitude & image is, I think, overstated...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm Matt from Springfield:

Neil...I was hoping you would play this Clay. Thank you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Rich in Washington:

Dammit, Clay. That PSH mom speech made me teary.
  6:56pm LovecraftDude888:

RR yeah i've read all that on keef....know what's weird, I got diagnosed Type 2 Diabetes last year but I haven't had a cold in almost 2 yrs!! WTF?
Avatar 6:56pm kat330:

@Kenzo: Are you suggesting all self-aware people are hopeless addicts and self-destructive??
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Marcel M:

Great show Clay, well done.
Avatar 6:57pm steve:

excellent show Clay!
  6:57pm LovecraftDude888:

er kat... I'm sure he's not...the thing is a massive physical addiction like heroin etc. it doesn't matter how aware or not u are....it's just like an iron grip
Avatar 6:58pm kat330:

Yes, thanks, Clay. A lot of thought for food.
  6:58pm Mommy:

Clay. I used to smoke regularly. Still do on occasion. Nothing bugs me more than folks telling you to stop. Do what your heart and body tells you. We all are dead in the end.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Matt from Springfield:

Philip Seymour Hoffman...Always Remembered...

This was a great show Clay! The very lengthy comments tonight are proof of it--and just as valuable to our learning.

Take care, everyone!
  6:59pm marmalade:

take care!
  6:59pm LovecraftDude888:

thanks Clay great damned show
Avatar 6:59pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

kat330: ???
Avatar 6:59pm Whooda:

Cheers to living
Avatar 6:59pm Whooda:

cheers to living.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Rich in Washington:

Kenzo: there's a big empty space in my Wednesday radio listening binges.
Avatar 7:01pm madman:

great show dusty
  Swag For Life Member 7:01pm sibeliuss:

yeah, really good show
Avatar 7:01pm Kenzo (Ken's Last Ever):

@Rich: Everything must end unexpectedly
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