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Options April 17, 2013: What TV shows were you not permitted to watch as a child?

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Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:02pm -max-:

Made it!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:03pm Danne D:

Hi folks
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:03pm Dan B From Upstate:

Can't believe my comment got through.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:03pm Danne D:

Mister Rogers. My mother drew the line at Mister Rogers.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:03pm G:

Andy's gonna show everyone he knows the names of every piece.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:03pm -max-:

Topic answer is that I wasn't restricted that way by my parents.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:04pm Nick the Bard:

Speed chess rules :

billpriceweb.com...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:04pm Danne D:

I'm with Andy, I call it the horsey
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:04pm hamburger:

anyone get peeved when people called capturing a piece 'eating a piece'?
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:04pm G:

My parents didn't want me reading the "Old Testament" as a child. Too much sex and violence (and too many embarrassing questions for them to answer), I guess.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:05pm steve:

haven't been offered weed on weed corner since around 2005
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:05pm G:

There is no weed corner. It's all weed corner. I never cut through there as a grad student. Too much stress fighting people off.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:06pm G:

in the 80s
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:07pm hamburger:

wish I could see Ken's stand up routines
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:07pm Danne D:

@steve I think weed-bay put your corner out of business
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:07pm Nick the Bard:

Stuff I can remember I wasn't allowed to watch -

-In Living Color
-The Mother Love Show
-one episode of The Super Friends where they get possessed by some evil red powder or something, and Frankstein was on an airplane as a passenger

Weird thing was, NO movies were banned. So, stuff on TV got kept away, but I probably could've gotten away with watching all the hardcore porn I wanted when i was like, 5
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:08pm steve:

true. Danne D did you see Ken and Andy at the comedy festival? figure if anyone did it was probably you.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:08pm Caryn:

My parents didn't set tv barriers for me. Or movie ones. And I don't think that seeing the first Evil Dead movie at age 6 has had any lasting ill effects... Except a slight fear of being stabbed in the ankle with a pencil.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:09pm Matt from Springfield:

You both are "courtesy invited" to a lot of parties, I presume. They're just disappointed when you actually RSVP.

Hey Ken and Andy and 7SD voyeurs!
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:10pm Caryn's Future children, aged about 3:

Iiiiiiiiinteresting.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:10pm G:

Andy would feel so safe in the eye of a tornado.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:10pm G:

Andy likes looking up shafts.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:11pm hamburger:

Had to turn ask for 'The Shining' to be turned off as a child, guess that explains something
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:11pm Matt from Springfield:

He's one baaaad eye--Shut yer mouth!!
Tornado Shaft!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:11pm Caryn:

@My future children: age 3 is still Star Wars and Leone movies. And any Henson studio stuff.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:11pm G:

Who's the comic whose punch lines drop the panties on all the chicks?

Tornado Shaft.

Damn right
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:12pm Matt from Springfield:

@Caryn: "Leone", not "Léono", I hope?? ;)
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:13pm Danne D:

@steve - yep they were great :)
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:13pm Caryn's Future children, aged about 3:

also ankle stabbing, mom.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:14pm steve:

G, i don't think i get it, and yet i also don't want you to explain it.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:14pm G:

Why they let us watch Laugh In at age 10 is beyond me. All us fourth grades talked about the next morning at school was who got which dirty jokes.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:14pm northguineahills:

The pressure is so low in the middle of a tornado, that the the circulates up. That's how the circulation keeps the clockwise circulation of the air. (there's more to it, there is a chance in an F5 that was big enough, it would be possible to survive. but it's not quiet like a hurricane cyclone eye.)
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:14pm Danne D:

I won $25 on a Seven Second Delay Episode where Bob Crane figured.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:14pm Matt from Springfield:

The two most notable not allowed to watches were: Beavis & Butthead around 10, and when South Park first began at 12. But I was growing up by then, and besides not being allowed to see American Pie in the theater at 14, there weren't any boundaries set after that.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:14pm Caryn:

There are a couple of Disney cartoons my parents decided after a couple of viewings that it might be best I don't rewatch. Mainly because I cried so much I hyperventilated and had to be carried to the balcony to breathe. But I totally agreed with them on not watching, so it wasn't exactly a ban.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:15pm G:

It's the opening pf Isaac Hayes "Shaft" 45, 1971, Matt did the same
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:16pm glenn:

i agree with andy. there's no way that somebody said fuck on laugh in.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:17pm Nick the Bard:

I say "Seven Second Delay"
You say "I have a show I'd like to mention"

GAH
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:17pm Kevin S:

Duke of Hazzard. Course, we sneaked and watched it anyway.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:17pm G:

They did some near misses (plays on words) that they talked Standards and Practices into letting by
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:17pm glenn:

or at least, that it was broadcast.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:18pm northguineahills:

I'm in my later 30s, and although my parents were borderline fundies, they were against censorship, so, I was allowed to watch anything as long as it was before my bed time.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:18pm Matt from Springfield:

@G: Of course, w/ Laugh In you could have just taken any sentence you didn't understand, and make up a dirty reference (hoping they also don't know what it means!)

@glenn: I don't think anyone said "fuck" on US TV until Jefferson Airplane performed "We Can Be Together" live in '69 (and that was "motherfuckers"). But I haven't found a clear "first use of fuck on American TV" ref.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...they make a point that on Laugh-In they zipped 'em in & quick-cut as fast as possible to sneak 'em thru...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:19pm Lizardner Dave:

It wasn't TV but "Jaws" came out when I was about 8 and I wasn't allowed to go see it because my parents thought it would give me nightmares.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:19pm cklequ:

My parents banned tons of stuff, but for some reason the He-Man cartoon is the only one i remember. Even though i had no interest.

And for some reason Sesame Street and the Muppets were never on in the house. I still hold a grudge about that.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:19pm Matt from Springfield:

@Andy: "THE Bitcoins", get yer grandfatherly ways right!
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:19pm G:

It seems the responsible Jews didn't let their kids watch TV as kids, but then they grew up to "control the media." WTF is up with that??? It's like "The Jazz Singer" or something.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:19pm northguineahills:

I remember watching Dukes of Hazzard when I was 3 in 1979 after dinner.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:20pm G:

@Matt: Check Hesse Sheidlower's book "The F Word." Must be there.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:20pm G:

Jesse, ugh
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:20pm Matt from Springfield:

@G: 'Cause the media makes you stoopid, leaving you unable to take control of said media :)
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:20pm Nick the Bard:

"At one point during the joke wall, Dan tells Pamela the start of a joke and then says 'And watch your language.' The reason for this is found in the Laugh-In Past Christmas Present special, where an outtake is shown of the first take of this joke, where Pamela says a naughty word and is bleeped."
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:21pm northguineahills:

I had a baby sitter show my brothers RoboCop when they were 5. I came home to watch it again. I was 10, and had already seen it, but my parents fired the baby sitter for showing it to my 5 year-old bros.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:22pm Dr. Goot:

"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:22pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Mommy took me to see 'Jaws' - but I remember it as my 1st flinch-worthy gross-out moment when the shark had more than half the old guy inside him...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:22pm steve:

i dont remember being prevented from watching anything... i mostly remember my dad wanting to show off his 5.1 surround sound system and making me watch movies with lots of explosions like Terminator, The Abyss, Die Hard on laserdisc with him
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:23pm Matt from Springfield:

@G: Will check that out, looks interesting.

And I *know* the first British use of "fuck" on TV (#1 in '65, by a statement-making intellectual on a night talk show). And Johnny Rotten + Sex Pistols for #s 3, 4 and 5 in '77!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:23pm Matt from Springfield:

@Andy: Talk to "the brothers" like Jim Carrey's characters.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:24pm Dr. Goot:

that was "The Shinning".
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:24pm Danne D:

What brothers is Andy talking about, The Smothers Brothers?
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:25pm hamburger:

hope there's footage of the chess playing show, any word on the 7SD busking episode?
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:26pm steve:

im working by Washington Sq Park next Tuesday, might have to stop by. its on Tuesday right?
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:26pm Matt from Springfield:

WOW.
Fortunately we're all N-words now, by those standards. That'll make them roll over! :)
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:26pm glenn:

i remember watching a leafs game on hockey night in canada in maybe 1977. bruce hood (the ref) sent darryl sittler to the penalty box for some minor offense, and darryl lost it and screamed at him " fuck you, hood, you fucking faggot cocksucker". h.n.i.c. had decided to mike the penalty boxes and players benches for some unknown reason, and everybody heard it. the best thing was, i went to high school with hood's kids and when one of his sons walked into the school caf on monday morning EVERYBODY yelled "fuck you, hood, you fucking faggot cocksucker". ahh, memories.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:27pm Danne D:

@steve 4pm Tuesday
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:27pm Dr. Goot:

Python episodes featured boobs!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:27pm steve:

woo hoo, thanks Danne.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:27pm fred von helsing:

Python invaded via CBC
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:27pm common:

my mom wouldn't let us watch three's company, but we could watch monty python
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:28pm Matt from Springfield:

Lotsa boobies, in Python--made in blacklisted among a lot of conservative American parents.

Fortunately my mom was a Python watcher in the 70s, so never any problem with them!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:28pm Matt from Springfield:

Once again, Evan is the show's best joke writer!
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:29pm hamburger:

Evan must be destined
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:29pm Caryn:

John Cleese is believed to be the first person to say "shit" on British tv. Pre-Python, though. Only took about 30 years for US tv to allow the word in a non-documentary...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:29pm Danne D:

I think that happened to me to with "The Day After" - I don't think I had a big desire to see it though.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

- One way or another - Python was a Game Changer...
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:30pm Dr. Goot:

Here's a joke for Evan:
Q: What number doesn't behave?
A: ˙ɹǝqɯnu ǝʌıʇɐƃǝu ∀
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:30pm common:

my mom let us watch the day after, but she was looking forward to the apocalypse. still is.
  ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:30pm Ralphine:

I thought that Testament was MUCH more intense than The Day After. One of the saddest movies I've ever seen.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:30pm northguineahills:

Fun stuff. Gotta boogie, see you WFMUers!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:30pm cklequ:

As long as Andy refers to them as "the brothers" next week, the brothers are gonna love him.
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:31pm common:

my dog's name was boo radley.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:31pm Chris M.:

you couldn't get me within 300 feet of washington square park with andy harassing chess players. #helterskelter
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:31pm Caryn:

My parents walked through picket lines to watch "Life of Brian" in the cinema, so they weren't gonna stop us from watching the Pythons.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:32pm Matt from Springfield:

Boogie on, NGH!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:33pm Nick the Bard:

you call in knowing there's a call screener, ask if you're on the air, get told you're not , and hang up.
OK then.
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:33pm Bill W:

It wasn't The Day After that simulated a news show, but this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Bulletin
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:34pm Dan B From Upstate:

My SO won't let the kids watch Spongebob. I try to follow her wishes. I... suppose it's not good for kids.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:34pm Matt from Springfield:

@Caryn: Now, speaking of scary movies, that might have been withheld by my parents if I asked for them (but didn't), listening to The Gremlins' Christmas "chimney monologue" on Julie's show made me realize why some kids had that VHS and my family didn't! (Good decision, that would've freaked me the freak out when I was younger!)
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:35pm dc pat:

I could watch anything but my kids can only watch 3 stooges, adventure time, Simpsons, Monty Python, etc....
  ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:35pm Ralphine:

I remember being scared of the WANTED blurbs at the end of The FBI where they sometimes said that the criminals were armed and extremely dangerous, because my dad would always tell me that he heard they were headed our way.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:35pm Tyler:

Beavis and Butthead
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:36pm Greg from Bloomfield:

Incidentally, the Simpsons episode where Homer chased Bart with an axe was Treehouse of Horror VIII, at the end of the "Fly Vs Fly" segment. My parents let me watch so much Simpsons that I didn't even have to look that up.
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:36pm Dr. Goot:

The Chicken Fight is an ongoing thread on FG...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:36pm Dan B From Upstate:

Chicken Fight for reference:
www.youtube.com...
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:37pm Tyler:

Spongebob is pretty bad. Anybody under 10 watching that show is only getting dumber and everyone else is just loosing time.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:37pm Nick the Bard:

some of the callers are getting lame, bleh

It'd be neat if i could drop people from the call screener desk
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:38pm Matt from Springfield:

@Caryn: And...speaking of crying to hyperventilation during Disney, when I was 4 I screamed and cried past the end of the "It's A Small World" ride at Disney World. And I *remember* doing that too, but can't remember just *what* set me off. I was sensitive, and could have been overwhelmed but still have no clue. Perhaps I was physically disturbed from infrasound from the speakers, or something.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:39pm Danne D:

Python is cool.
Watching Python with one Python fan is fine.
Watching Python or even discussing Python with more than one Python fan is completely un-fucking-tolerable!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:39pm Dan B From Upstate:

Brain Candy is such a great movie.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:39pm Caryn:

Spongebob actually has lots of Ren & Stimpy-like freaky imagery.
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:39pm common:

@Matt: I remember that too. I was 5.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:39pm Matt from Springfield:

Moral: "enough is enough, don't eat the mint when you're full, even if it's only 'waff-el thin' "!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:40pm Dan B From Upstate:

"We're going to be doing those push ups with me on your back. All day. You and me. All day."
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:41pm Danne D:

No comments board love on SSD
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I'm all Liberal~Radical & totally against Censorship
- but I've never come close to child-rearing
- & don't understand how it can even be done in the Internet Age...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:42pm Matt from Springfield:

@common: "It's A Small World"? Yeah, from what I know now, infrasound seems a likely reason.

en.wikipedia.org...
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:42pm common:

what's more horrible about that evil dead story is that they remade a fucking classic.
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:43pm common:

@matt: Thank you!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:43pm Matt from Springfield:

Uggh, remaking classics right and left...just like TCM/Texas Chainsaw Massacre! NO reason to remake that perfect original!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:44pm Matt from Springfield:

My pleazh, common!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:44pm Danne D:

zacherley.com
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:44pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...when I was tiny enuff - even the Grinch creeped me out - but I think I kinda liked it - prob. under influence of older family members...certainly Outer Limits - !...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:45pm Danne D:

Zacherley is still doing appearances:
zacherley.com...
  ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:45pm Ralphine:

When I was really little, my grandma took me to violent movies like Night of the Grizzly and A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die. I don't know what she was thinking.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:46pm Matt from Springfield:

But...the Mr. Ed horse actor was racist in his time.[24] Chappelle, Dave.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:46pm Nick the Bard:

Dammit, don't call a show and redail the number.... O_o
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:47pm Nick the Bard:

and don't redial it either
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:47pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...wunna the Pythons said he still felt like they were the Naughty Schoolboys - but got away w/ it...
Avatar Wed. 4/17/13 6:48pm fred von helsing:

a vote for Schultz
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:48pm Danne D:

One of my time machine wishes is to go back in time and witness the pitch meeting for the Hogan's Heroes TV Show.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:48pm glenn:

stalag 17 was not a comedy. there's some argument that neither was hogan's heroes.
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:48pm Duvid:

My father actually had been a P.o.W. in Germany, and had mixed feelings about "Hogan's Heroes"---he lost all his family to the Nazis and couldn't stand their portrayal there, but did allow that the calibre of men guarding and running the camp where he was was accurately portrayed---old men, fat men, cripples (and not shown on the show) teenagers. He got for me an autographed picture of John Banner, who played Schultz, for me from a business acquaintance who was Banner's cousin.
  ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:49pm Ralphine:

How can Andy by right? Hogan's Heroes were in Stalag 13, not Stalag 17.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:49pm Matt from Springfield:

It encourages anorexia!
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:49pm Bill W:

Stalag 17 was a "seriocomic" film that had jokes.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:49pm Carmichael:

But The Producers was.
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:50pm common:

my dad got us up on saturday nights to watch mr. bill on snl
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:50pm Matt from Springfield:

Oh dear Lord! Snopes actually had to "debunk" whether the "Racist Mr. Ed" clip from Chappelle's Show was genuine! Some idiots out there!

www.snopes.com...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:51pm Danne D:

The guy who lived up the street from me growing up actually was the understudy to Sgt Schultz on Hogan's Heroes (at least that was the story)
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:52pm Matt from Springfield:

@Duvid: I heard that Hogan's Heroes had all the principal German guard characters played by Jews, as a subtle joke.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:52pm Danne D:

The show seemed to take pains to distinguish between the "bumbling germans" - Schultz and Klink vs. the truly evil Nazis like the gestapo dude.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:52pm Nick the Bard:

I think the stopwatch from Sixty Minutes was calling in to say he couldn't watch his own show...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:52pm Matt from Springfield:

"DANNNNNNNNNNN!!!"
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:53pm common:

ken's show is the best!
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...did they put some weird crap on TV in the 60's or what - ?!...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:54pm Danne D:

"Hey we have an idea for a TV Show. Remember that movie Stalag 17? Well the show is that except the twist is it's a COMEDY! We'll keep Sgt. Schultz the bumbling guard but instead of Stalag 17 we'll call it STALAG THIRTEEN! GET IT? And we'll play up the yucks. Can't miss!"
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:54pm Danne D:

@Nick the Bard that ticks me off.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:56pm Caryn:

There's always been weird crap on tv. Sure, the 60s had stuff like "My Mother the Car" and "Hogan's Heroes". But later on we get the "Cavemen" show and "Homeboys in Outer Space"...
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:57pm Pete from Boston (and NJ):

I actually did fall asleep to Rat Race last night. Taking Andy's name off won't give me my sleep back.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:57pm Matt from Springfield:

WORLD Wide Web, not Madison Wide Web..
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:58pm Caryn:

Those two reasons for not allowing "All in the Family" seem connected: being like Archie Bunker, and being antisemitic.
  Wed. 4/17/13 6:58pm common:

when i was a kid, we had a cable box with a dial and my brother and i found out how to get the playboy channel in with a toothpick in the dial. I once found my dad watching with the toothpick in. I sat down and watched for a second. My dad said nothing. I went to my room.
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:59pm Matt from Springfield:

All right, thanks Ken and Andy!

Watch some Three Stooges, everyone! :)
Avatar ♥   Wed. 4/17/13 6:59pm Dan B From Upstate:

en.wikipedia.org...
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