WFMU: Aerial View: Playlist from December 18, 2012

Listener comments!
	6:08pm ian: serious cognitive dissonance. My gf just asked me to confirm that this is really fmu..
	6:12pm Mike East: I have stayed away from almost all media coverage of this tragic event. I will stay tuned in to you, Chris T., but only because I know you won't try to terrorize my mind with sensationalist gruesome details.
	6:12pm Thomas Jefferson: Hey, don't trample my Bill of rights!
	6:15pm Mental health expert: Wait, worried about responsible gun ownership, not divorce? WTF?
	6:16pm borednow: Ugh two dopey liberals crying together. Tuning out...
	6:18pm Mike East: why does anyone need extended round magazines for self defense, unless they are expecting a zombie apocalypse?
	6:18pm John Gray: Guns are penises, gun-control advocates are vaginas.
	6:20pm green mountain man mark: We need to stop thinking there is a panacea for this. America has a problem and the biggest one is that we still think that one thing is the solution to a problem. Black and white. There are layers to everything.
	6:20pm Ike: I don't think a lot of restrictions will be able to get through Congress, so let's take Chris Rock's suggestion and make ammo very VERY expensive! Tax the hell out of it! At least for high-powered weapons and big magazines.
	6:20pm Robert: And for the Pink Pistols, it makes them a man's man!
	6:21pm steve from SF: Dr., most medical societies and professional organizations discourage speculating on individual cases. Generalizations are more appropriate.
	6:22pm Robert: And making ammo very expensive accomplishes what, exactly? Makes it costly to practice shooting a lot, so people are worse shots?
	6:25pm Sarah Brady: Gun control means hitting your target.
	6:25pm johnebgood: this is all bullshit. If you have a leg left I'll pull it off.
	6:25pm dpcd: If she has thoughts about Asperger syndrome and how it apparently made this situation so much worse?
	6:26pm jeff67: Chris now thinks people afraid of teh government are crazy?
	6:27pm Ike: @Robert, many (though not all) madmen are financially limited. Clumsy way to accomplish gun control, but if nothing else will pass Congress, I say we go that way. It's much easier to levy a tax. Are you the same Robert who said, earlier today, "What if law enforcement deserves [to be shot]?" That's pretty scary, dude.
	6:31pm johnebgood: Thank You Doc I Love You!
	6:37pm ontopic: Can we ask why all the school shooters were on psychiatric medication? What's up with that??
	6:37pm francis: What about people talking about how gun control works in other countries? Are those restrictions capable of becoming a reality in the US?
	6:38pm steve: i've only been paying aware politics for a decade or so... have people always expressed their political opinions with the kind of blood boiling angry partisanship they do today?
	6:38pm steve from SF: Ontopic, perhaps because they had illnesses that are treated with medications. Wouldn't cancer patients be expected to be on cancer medicines?
	6:39pm Satan: Don't put this on my doorstep. The Guy Upstairs kills kids every day who pray for a bowl of food. I just want Cher to get serious and be Mrs. Satan.
	6:39pm 1010: We need a national mental health Intervention Initiative that gives families a place to turn, establishes diagnostic criteria where intervention is required, exceptions to confidentiality, that still balances the rights of the mentally impaired by putting weapon possession through court review, and a real effort to de stigmatized mental illness and treatment.
	6:39pm Papa: http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/12/remember-all-the-children-mr-president/
	6:40pm francis: I think if the doc put's on headphones - the feedback would stop for her
	6:42pm 1010: God is not almighty he is a gentlemen that doesnt like these insults. WHAT A MORON. CHURCHES ARE FOR WORSHIP NOT PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
	6:45pm ontopic: steve from SF, empirically, we're better off leaving mental health untreated if the treated ones exclusively keep killing people.
	6:46pm Robert: Yes, it is scary, Ike. But it's a reality that needs to be confronted. Institutional control of violence, such as by police, is not infallible. OTOH, if the potential for violence is diffused in the population, it keeps any one source of violence from getting too far out of hand.
	6:47pm Me: The biggest influence of violence is the us military. They have shown that is ok and accepted to kill people and children to resolve conflicts.
	6:51pm dpcd: Okay, the religious angle. Unfortunately, most if not all gun nuts consider themselves religious. I heard a brilliant interview with a Columbine survivor the other night on CBC. He just said there is now nothing sacred in our culture. Its all been done (given credence or not) on cable TV, almost not possible to shock us anymore with any kind of crime. The answer isn't the simple kind we'd like to hear. Gun sales went 'way up last weekend. How do explain it?
	6:51pm Robert: Me, that's a priime example of attempted institutional control of violence. Who watches the watchers?
	6:52pm not me: Me is 100% correct. The military glorifies guns, violence.
	6:54pm crazy: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/18/stand-your-ground-cited-in-shooting-of-whiny-little-caesars-pizza-customer/
	6:54pm Mike East: mental health care is expensive, often prohibitively so. I remember going to see someone years ago when I was in a deep depression. I came out of the session $100 poorer, and never went back because I couldn't afford it. I think I went to the bar afterwards and spent about $100 buying drinks from me and some friends. That made me feel much better. The point is - getting help is often not an option for many people who need it but can't afford it, even with government programs.
	6:55pm Robert: I don't like where this is going. Mind control is even worse than gun control.
	6:56pm green mountain man mark: In this country we can't see layers, alternatives, different reasons and new ways of thinking of things.
	6:56pm dpcd: Amen, Mike! This particular family could have afforded care, but so many others can't.
	6:57pm Ike: Robert, you sound deeply paranoid to me. Just IMHO. We've already had decades of "potential for violence [being] diffused in the population" and now you can see where that's gotten us.
	6:57pm Robert: Car insurance doesn't pay for deliberate misuse of the insured's car.
	6:59pm dpcd: Great Show and Happy Christmas Chris. Thanks
	6:59pm Robert: Ike, all I know is that, over many centuries, per capita violence has been going down, way down, worldwide.

Aerial View: Playlist from December 18, 2012

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December 18, 2012: Gun Insurance

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Listener comments!
	6:08pm ian: serious cognitive dissonance. My gf just asked me to confirm that this is really fmu..
	6:12pm Mike East: I have stayed away from almost all media coverage of this tragic event. I will stay tuned in to you, Chris T., but only because I know you won't try to terrorize my mind with sensationalist gruesome details.
	6:12pm Thomas Jefferson: Hey, don't trample my Bill of rights!
	6:15pm Mental health expert: Wait, worried about responsible gun ownership, not divorce? WTF?
	6:16pm borednow: Ugh two dopey liberals crying together. Tuning out...
	6:18pm Mike East: why does anyone need extended round magazines for self defense, unless they are expecting a zombie apocalypse?
	6:18pm John Gray: Guns are penises, gun-control advocates are vaginas.
	6:20pm green mountain man mark: We need to stop thinking there is a panacea for this. America has a problem and the biggest one is that we still think that one thing is the solution to a problem. Black and white. There are layers to everything.
	6:20pm Ike: I don't think a lot of restrictions will be able to get through Congress, so let's take Chris Rock's suggestion and make ammo very VERY expensive! Tax the hell out of it! At least for high-powered weapons and big magazines.
	6:20pm Robert: And for the Pink Pistols, it makes them a man's man!
	6:21pm steve from SF: Dr., most medical societies and professional organizations discourage speculating on individual cases. Generalizations are more appropriate.
	6:22pm Robert: And making ammo very expensive accomplishes what, exactly? Makes it costly to practice shooting a lot, so people are worse shots?
	6:25pm Sarah Brady: Gun control means hitting your target.
	6:25pm johnebgood: this is all bullshit. If you have a leg left I'll pull it off.
	6:25pm dpcd: If she has thoughts about Asperger syndrome and how it apparently made this situation so much worse?
	6:26pm jeff67: Chris now thinks people afraid of teh government are crazy?
	6:27pm Ike: @Robert, many (though not all) madmen are financially limited. Clumsy way to accomplish gun control, but if nothing else will pass Congress, I say we go that way. It's much easier to levy a tax. Are you the same Robert who said, earlier today, "What if law enforcement deserves [to be shot]?" That's pretty scary, dude.
	6:31pm johnebgood: Thank You Doc I Love You!
	6:37pm ontopic: Can we ask why all the school shooters were on psychiatric medication? What's up with that??
	6:37pm francis: What about people talking about how gun control works in other countries? Are those restrictions capable of becoming a reality in the US?
	6:38pm steve: i've only been paying aware politics for a decade or so... have people always expressed their political opinions with the kind of blood boiling angry partisanship they do today?
	6:38pm steve from SF: Ontopic, perhaps because they had illnesses that are treated with medications. Wouldn't cancer patients be expected to be on cancer medicines?
	6:39pm Satan: Don't put this on my doorstep. The Guy Upstairs kills kids every day who pray for a bowl of food. I just want Cher to get serious and be Mrs. Satan.
	6:39pm 1010: We need a national mental health Intervention Initiative that gives families a place to turn, establishes diagnostic criteria where intervention is required, exceptions to confidentiality, that still balances the rights of the mentally impaired by putting weapon possession through court review, and a real effort to de stigmatized mental illness and treatment.
	6:39pm Papa: http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/12/remember-all-the-children-mr-president/
	6:40pm francis: I think if the doc put's on headphones - the feedback would stop for her
	6:42pm 1010: God is not almighty he is a gentlemen that doesnt like these insults. WHAT A MORON. CHURCHES ARE FOR WORSHIP NOT PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
	6:45pm ontopic: steve from SF, empirically, we're better off leaving mental health untreated if the treated ones exclusively keep killing people.
	6:46pm Robert: Yes, it is scary, Ike. But it's a reality that needs to be confronted. Institutional control of violence, such as by police, is not infallible. OTOH, if the potential for violence is diffused in the population, it keeps any one source of violence from getting too far out of hand.
	6:47pm Me: The biggest influence of violence is the us military. They have shown that is ok and accepted to kill people and children to resolve conflicts.
	6:51pm dpcd: Okay, the religious angle. Unfortunately, most if not all gun nuts consider themselves religious. I heard a brilliant interview with a Columbine survivor the other night on CBC. He just said there is now nothing sacred in our culture. Its all been done (given credence or not) on cable TV, almost not possible to shock us anymore with any kind of crime. The answer isn't the simple kind we'd like to hear. Gun sales went 'way up last weekend. How do explain it?
	6:51pm Robert: Me, that's a priime example of attempted institutional control of violence. Who watches the watchers?
	6:52pm not me: Me is 100% correct. The military glorifies guns, violence.
	6:54pm crazy: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/18/stand-your-ground-cited-in-shooting-of-whiny-little-caesars-pizza-customer/
	6:54pm Mike East: mental health care is expensive, often prohibitively so. I remember going to see someone years ago when I was in a deep depression. I came out of the session $100 poorer, and never went back because I couldn't afford it. I think I went to the bar afterwards and spent about $100 buying drinks from me and some friends. That made me feel much better. The point is - getting help is often not an option for many people who need it but can't afford it, even with government programs.
	6:55pm Robert: I don't like where this is going. Mind control is even worse than gun control.
	6:56pm green mountain man mark: In this country we can't see layers, alternatives, different reasons and new ways of thinking of things.
	6:56pm dpcd: Amen, Mike! This particular family could have afforded care, but so many others can't.
	6:57pm Ike: Robert, you sound deeply paranoid to me. Just IMHO. We've already had decades of "potential for violence [being] diffused in the population" and now you can see where that's gotten us.
	6:57pm Robert: Car insurance doesn't pay for deliberate misuse of the insured's car.
	6:59pm dpcd: Great Show and Happy Christmas Chris. Thanks
	6:59pm Robert: Ike, all I know is that, over many centuries, per capita violence has been going down, way down, worldwide.

Aerial View: Playlist from December 18, 2012

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