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Options January 5, 2012: Occupy NDAA - Penn Station Conversations

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  This episode was recorded during an Occupy Wall Street action at Grand Central Station on Tuesday, January 3rd, 2011. The activists participating were drawing attention to the NDAA - National Defense Authorization Act, which you can read more about here:


Later in the episode, I went to a General Assembly of Occupy Wall Street at 100 WIlliams Street. Finally, there are two lengthy interviews which take place at Penn Station in Manhattan.

I have been wrestling with some technical problems associated with my continuing efforts to enter the digital realm. These problems have been irritating, to say the least. I will continue to try and improve the sound quality and I appreciate your patience and support in this endeavor.

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Listener comments!

  6:07pm Clay:

Clay to base ... Clay to base ... over
  6:07pm Ken From New York:

Hey...how 'bout that Iowas caucus last night?
  6:07pm slugluv1313:

i thought this happened at Grand Central? or arrests at Penn Station too???!!!
  6:08pm kata:

hi Clay and listeners!
  6:08pm Matt from Springfield:

Occupy Comment Boards!

Hello and Happy New Year Clay!
  6:08pm david:

Sounds like Clay saw Joey Boots...
  6:09pm Clay:

Rockefeller Plaza, Grand Central Station, Times Square, Williams Street GA, Penn Station
  6:10pm Caryn:

Hello Clay & comments board!
  6:11pm Matt from Springfield:

Hey listeners! Caryn, david, kata, slugluv, Ken!
  6:11pm david:

notice how they kept increasing the amount and volume of track announcements at GCT as the action went on
  6:12pm Clay:

Hello everyone. I'm reading your words.
  6:13pm kata:

woah, this is intense Clay!
  6:14pm Matt from Springfield:

@david: "Thank you for your cooperation"!
  6:15pm Matt from Springfield:

Brendan from OWS probably deserves an episode dedicated to him at some point, he's everywhere Clay goes!
  6:15pm david:

I think Lauren was one of the folks assaulted in the Zuccotti encampment early on...
  6:16pm Cecile:

how many people are still out there?
  6:17pm Clay:

You mean listeners, Cecile?
  6:17pm Cecile:

no. protesters
  6:17pm david:

grand central action from the top of the steps, for later reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI3EhHkH6qw
  6:19pm david:

Cecile - there's no permanent encampment in NYC like before but new year's actions and this grand central action were certainly 4-figure turnouts...
  6:19pm Cecile:

that's very good for winter and holidays!
  6:20pm Cecile:

Clay, you should boil this down to a 2-hour disc set and send it out. This isn't being covered at all in the news.
  6:20pm Ike:

Hey Clay, if you didn't see my comments at the end of Fabio's show, try a vaporizer. They're cheap. And apparently easy to clean with vinegar (hmm, I need to clean mine). I always found humidifiers to be very difficult to clean (YMMV)....
  6:21pm Cecile:

I have a humidifier with a simple compartment - just swish it out and it's great. If you get a humidifier, keep it as simple as humanly possible.
  6:23pm Cecile:

also, all this unison chanting is like being at Mass my two time a year..
  6:23pm Cecile:

it's pretty powerful.
  6:23pm Listener Dave from Seattle:

Just put a pan with some water in it on the radiator. As told to me by my mom.
  6:24pm hallowed by my name:

this reciatation sounds like "our father, who art in heaven..."
  6:24pm Cecile:

any way, be well everyone.
Listener Dave that also works in a pinch.
  6:24pm Clay:

cecile and Ike - i'm happy you stpooed by! I'm lobbying for the vaporizer, ike. an horrid tan one. cecile, i hear you on the Mass thing.
  6:25pm Clay:

  6:25pm Ike:

@LDfS, I tried that. Never worked too well for me. Radiator didn't get hot enough, I don't think. Sometimes I'd end up w/a strange orange rust too. So if you try it, don't use a good pan.
  6:25pm Cecile:

yeah, hallowed. Like the old liturgy. Not the new, weird, legalistic liturgy.

Anyway, I must go. Take care.
  6:25pm Matt from Springfield:

Interesting how Brookfield keeps re-grouping and disappearing (like Blackwater/Xe/whatever now)
  6:25pm Caryn:

Bye, Cecile!
  6:26pm Clay:

By Cecile!
  6:27pm Clay:

buy buy!
  6:27pm Ike:

Oh yeah Clay, the off-whitish Vicks vaporizers are horrid indeed, ugly as Schlitz. But they work well.
  6:27pm Caryn:

pie pie!
  6:32pm kata:

This journalist guy is right -- they've been doing this a while and are now just making it official by passing the law.
  6:32pm seang:

time to fight back big time
  6:33pm Clay:

Nice to hear from you Kata and Seang.
  6:33pm david:

exactly, kata. the argument goes, "well, the president said that he won't do it when he signed..." Well, they were already doing it!
  6:35pm kata:

Obama is a zombie.
  6:35pm Clay:

I need the optional windscreen.
  6:35pm Caryn:

My great-grandfather and his brother both spent decades of their lives in prison for their political views. Great-grandpa still managed to be a member of parliament and fight for his beliefs. Great-granduncle died after 2 years in an internment camp. In our family, you learned early on about the importance of protest and fighting for your rights. The NDAA is just making the existing status quo official. Here's hoping the general population becomes aware of what has been done to their rights.
  6:37pm Clay:

Thanks, Caryn. Inspiring words. Peace.
  6:37pm david:

Ydanis Rodriguez has gotten arrested once or twice, I think...
  6:43pm kata:

thanks for sharing Caryn, you're right!
  6:43pm Matt from Springfield:

Romney = Republican Kerry--I was thinking the same impression! Points to Clay for being the first in the media I heard say that!
  6:44pm Clay:

Yes, Matt! High Four!
  6:45pm kata:

the more I listen to this coverage, the more it seems the conservatives use the same words; "socialism" and "entitlements" and tow the same party line, while the folks involved in OWS you've interviewed are so different from eachother and each have a unique point of view and way to express their minds.
  6:46pm kata:

than again, I am biased ;)
  6:47pm Caryn:

If you look at the current candidates, it's not so much "the lesser of two evils" but the "evil of two lessers"...
  6:48pm Matt from Springfield:

  6:50pm northguineahills:

I was thinking Romney was the Republican Dukakis.
  6:53pm Matt from Springfield:

@NGH: Even better--more of a blowout! ;)

With so many divergent opinions this year, there could be a major political split. If Romney wins the nomination, a third party conservative might "Bull Moose" him (see: Teddy Roosevelt, 1912). I've also pondered a 4-way split like 1948.
  6:54pm david:

I'd could see a 4-way contest too, Matt.
  6:56pm Caryn:

@kata: gotta agree with you on that. Also, if you ask most people what percentage of the budget is spent on welfare or foreign aid, people's answers tend to be several hundred times the actual number. I kinda think the conservative view was best spelled out on The Daily Show: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-august-18-2011/world-of-class-warfare---the-poor-s-free-ride-is-over?xrs=share_fb
  6:58pm kata:

I'm sure I saw that cuz I'm a Daily Show addict ! :)

thanks Clay -- great show again! until next time everyone...
  6:59pm Night Al:

I never get tired of seeing the International Space Station fly over.
  6:59pm Matt from Springfield:

Ambassador to the homeless--The Dusty Show has always been great and finding these amazing people around NYC and sharing them with us.
  7:00pm Caryn:

Great show again, Clay!
  7:00pm Matt from Springfield:

Have a great night everyone!
Another fine show for the tally!
  7:00pm kme in chi:

Thank you for another wonderful show Clay!
  3:05pm Clay-Dohâ„¢:

Thank you for your comments. I am still struggling with the digital format. To me, this show sounded a bit muddy and distant. Someone told me she misses all the sound effects. I'm afraid I have drifted far away from old Dustyland. Not sure I can find my way home. Love you all. HNY. Clay NYC 2012 - feeling every second of that sixteenth minute.
  7:50pm rlr:

Thank you clay...... OWS!
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