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Options December 15, 2011: OCCUPY GOLDMAN SACHS / WORLD FINANCIAL CENTER

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CLAY PIGEON 

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  Thu. 12/15/11 6:04pm Matt from Springfield:

Yes, Goldman DOES suck!
Hiya Clay!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:04pm Clay:

Hello.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:06pm kata:

afternoon Clay and Matt.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:07pm Clay:

Hi Matt! Good evening, Kata.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:07pm Matt from Springfield:

Afternoon kata!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:07pm Marmalade Kitty:

Yo Clay, Matt, Kata & all!!!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:09pm Matt from Springfield:

Hey MKitty!
How are things in Mad-chester? :)
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:10pm phillip:

Hello everybody! Has anybody seen Rick Perry's website? Dear O dear!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:10pm Matt from Springfield:

Baritone bugles are not class warfare--they're math!
That's a Repub slander!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:12pm Matt from Springfield:

Good evening phillip.
What, the video or the front page of:
"Skip to website >
Contribute $"
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:12pm kata:

ooh, dig the pigeon-shadows image Clay!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:12pm david:

anarcho-syndicalism sounds like some Wobbly action to me...
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:14pm Matt from Springfield:

Wow, that is a good Pidge visual!
@david: I always think of the Spanish Civil War when I see "anarcho-syndicalism", that's the furthest A-S got in practice.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:17pm Not on the meds:

Are all your interviewees on them? And are they all nuts? No, of course not. This is America! Show 'em the flag, boys!
And get "medicated."
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:17pm phillip:

I think Perry's run will finally get him out of the Governor's seat here in Texas. With Perry and G.W running this state for the last 20 plus years it is long overdue now. Oh yes Matt, no solutions and issues, but just a straight up donation page? HA! Political suicide.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:18pm david:

MFS agreed - the general strkes in the first decades of the 20th c. America had some A-S elements to them...
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:19pm Fredericks:

Listening "live" for the first time in weeks. It's more fun this way!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:19pm Clay:

Ken and Fab were hanging out. Good to see you guys here.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:20pm kata:

@phillip -- every time Perry opens his mouth is political suicide..
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:21pm Clay:

Hey Fredericks!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:21pm Fredericks:

Ken and Fabio are where Clayton?
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:21pm Matt from Springfield:

Rick's Kamikaze Political Machine!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:22pm Matt from Springfield:

While Ben & Jerrys is a more responsible corporation than most, I bet they'll be the first to exploit OWS for $. I can see it now, "OccuPie WallNut"...
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:22pm Clay:

They were here in the studio, Fredericks, fraternizing with me. One-Hour Martinizing.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:23pm Matt from Springfield:

Sweet cream ice cream with walnuts, chunks of pecan pie filling and caramel swirl. Sounds good, but I'm always uneasy about expropriating other things for one's own interest.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:23pm kata:

oh go to sleep you tourist bags!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:24pm phillip:

Sadly, Perry only brought in minimum wage jobs to Texas, but he sees it as careers being made. So McDonald's, Burger King, Carl's Jr., Wal-Mart, Target, and Cinnabon are "careers"?
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:24pm kata:

[I wasn't saying that to you guys, I was talking to that lady Clay interviewed...]
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:25pm Clay:

Tourist bags!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:25pm david:

"The right of the First Amendment is protected, BUT..."
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:25pm Marmalade Kitty:

I'd love to visit NY and experience the occupy
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:26pm Matt from Springfield:

@phillip: What about the tipping point when no one can afford to go out, and instead take restaurant leftovers where they work and eat hot dogs without buns--the lack of any base is eventually going to implode even those places.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:26pm Danne D:

I'm having a craving for donuts
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:26pm david:

Occupy a Twilight ticket line, y'hippies!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:26pm Clay:

You'd love it, Kitty. New York awaits.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:27pm kata:

Every time people complain about the protests and say "I think they should use other means to get their message across," I'm always like: "such as?" and they never have any suggestions!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:27pm Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: Hi there!
How about the new B&Js flavor? ;)
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:28pm Matt from Springfield:

"Know Your Rights"!! One of my fav Clash songs, even from high school.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:28pm depressed Persian cab driver:

Matt is right. Sorry, but the persons with time and energy to spend on this for months on end are supported by parents or somebody with a job or trust fund.They sure don't have kids to look after.
i am sure we will see more next year. Happy 2012 Clay!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:28pm Clay:

Ha hA Danny. Donuts!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:28pm Matt from Springfield:

"You have the right -- to free speech...
Unless of course you're dumb enough
to actually try it!"
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:29pm david:

@MK The energy of the NYC ows events, being physically there, is amazing - something that can't quite be captured on video or news stories... (Clay comes closest obviously.)
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:29pm Clay:

You got it Matt
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:31pm Matt from Springfield:

"As long as you're not dumb enough"...
Just about right though! I used to quote that.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:31pm Danne D:

@Matt I try to stay away from nuts myself, but I think you may have a hit there
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:31pm Clay:

Giulliani
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:32pm Danne D:

Bernie Kerrick still occupying a jail cell?
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:32pm Matt from Springfield:

Ha ha, this guy's straight out of a 1970 Nixon rally!
Only less effective and more tone-deaf!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:33pm Marmalade Kitty:

insult the workers..?
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:33pm kata:

Clay, I love your gentle/benign way of asking if someone is a conservative voter generally..
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:35pm Danne D:

I'm more circumspect in terms of putting views here on the comments. I think Clay does a great service by getting out and talking to people on all sides around ows, whether or not he agrees with them.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:35pm phillip:

Today on a San Antonio news broadcast, one news anchor had just come back from Mexico and joked about, "not dying and being chopped up into little pieces", while the other anchor laughed and said, "oh and you didn't get kidnapped too".
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:37pm Clay:

TY Kata.
TY Danne.
I love Mexico and her people.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:37pm Matt from Springfield:

You see this, phillip?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/birthers-fly-message-over-a-closed-dome-football-s
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:37pm Danne D:

Um - Life Expectancy of 100?
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:37pm depressed Persian cab driver:

Wow! This is an interviewee worthy of more airplay!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:38pm Clay:

I thought that was odd, too, Danne.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:38pm kata:

Mark Twain: "It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them."
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:39pm Clay:

Fair and Unbalanced Coverage, Persian Cab Driver!! That's what I provide.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:39pm Danne D:

Well he works for a brokerage not an insurance company
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:40pm Danne D:

The pigeons pictured do not appear to be made of Clay.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:40pm Clay:

Ken put that image up there. Of the pigeons.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:41pm phillip:

@Matt: I will definitely check that one. Just from the description, I'm sure its very laughable.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:41pm Matt from Springfield:

Helping people move their discontent from the cyber to the real world--Occupy has been great for that. Leaders not present nor needed for that either!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:42pm phillip:

Ken always has some great images.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:42pm Clay:

Good point, Matt.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:42pm Danne D:

I thank this guy for George W Bush.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:43pm Danne D:

Really appreciate it.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:43pm kata:

if you eat enough salt-water fishes, kim-chee and and turmeric, you can live to 100 ;)
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:43pm Danne D:

So Clay, those are hippie pigeons then?
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:44pm Clay:

My Great-grandma Nelson lived to be 104. Her brother was 103. Am I just imagining that? The past becomes a blur. I think it's true.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:45pm kata:

I gave Obama the benefit of the doubt for a long time. When he changed his mind about Palestinian statehood, that was the final straw for me.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:45pm Danne D:

So this guy is denying leaders their humanity.
I can't buy that.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:47pm Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: I'm more realist, so I can understand those who prefer to sit out and keep their ideals. But you won't affect any change that way.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:47pm depressed Persian cab driver:

So, Clay, I'm working on Michael Hiltikz's "The New Deal, A Modern History." It is painful to realize how hard we suffered in the 1930's. This current crap is minor by comparison. Americans were really dying for lack of food then. Now I mostly see Americans dying from the opposite, and unable to fend for themselves.
@kata- exactly! If you mean to lead a country, then do it.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:49pm other david:

@kata - it'll be interesting to see, if re-elected, whether he becomes for forthright on issues like Palestine
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:50pm phillip:

I love reading Adbusters. Do you read it also Clay?
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:50pm Danne D:

@Matt I'm not quite sure they are effecting change doing what they are doing either. I think it's fine to express your voice. And while I agree with many of the points they make (and more points certainly than the so-called Tea Party people (and they are so called because they do have representation for their taxation)), I'm not seeing the point where an undefined movement works.

Anyhow, I'll hang up and listen.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:50pm Marmalade Kitty:

dPcd: There was food, but no money
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:51pm other david:

err, i'm braindead - replace for with more
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:51pm Clay:

No, Phillip.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:53pm david:

I'm waiting for the Democrats and Republicans to affect some positive change, but they simply have not made their message clear. You have to have a message if you want it to advance it in the political sphere. (See how I did that?)
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:53pm kata:

I think it is extremely clear what the protests are about.. In an "ideal" world, the politicians should listen and act. We have hired the politicians to solve problems. Protesters have a voice, not required or even trained to necessarily form a solution. That's what we elected those assholes to do.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:54pm Clay:

I hope you still have interest in these Occupy shows. I realize that some may wish I would stop. Your input is appreciated. dusty@wfmu.org --- Week-to-week, I have found myself going back to enter the evolving world of OWS. I'll sign-off now. Andy will be here soon. THANKS for listening! Take care and ... always remember! CP 11/11
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:54pm Matt from Springfield:

Here's a Christmas gift for Clay, and all the fans of the Occupy series. I was listening live to the Sep 22 2011 episode, the first one to cover this all the way from the beginning. I recently transcribed the short but monumental intro, for your benefit...
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:54pm Danne D:

The call backs would get old for me
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:54pm Danne D:

Feel like I'm back at Catholic Church
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:54pm depressed Persian cab driver:

@MK: The money was apparently worthless. And this all happened before Nixon took us off the gold standard! I hate to think what my neighborhood would become if Obama closed all banks tomorrow.
I want to live in a civil society.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:54pm Marmalade Kitty:

emergency
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:55pm Matt from Springfield:

"There's been protesters near Wall Street for the last few days; "Operation Occupy Wall Street", the protesters are calling it. They have hopes of drawing attention to, and getting attention from, financial institutions and government officials whom the protesters feel have facilitated global recession and unemployment over the last few years. I wanted to get down in and amongst the protesters, and the people on the perimeter to find out what was going on. Let's do that on this episode of The Dusty Show." --9/22/11
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:55pm Danne D:

@Matt - it's not clear to me

;)
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:56pm Clay:

Richie Havens - Freedom - Live at Woodstock
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:57pm Matt from Springfield:

@Danne: I think it feels "mindless" to repeat very long ideological tracts in a mic-check, but I LOVE short pointed phrases--it really helps reinforce the message and heartens the protesters.
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:58pm Matt from Springfield:

I wanted to make that intro Google-able! :)
Thanks Clay! Have a good night everyone!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:58pm kata:

'nother great show Clay, thank you :) And thanks Matt for the transcription!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:58pm depressed Persian cab driver:

The discussion is still worth it, and thanks Clay!
  Thu. 12/15/11 6:59pm david:

MFS - discourse at OWS is usually relegated to practical/strategic issues at hand, not particular ideologies... Ideology considered divisive to a larger movement...
  Thu. 12/15/11 7:00pm Matt from Springfield:

@david: We heard some of that in the early days of Zuccotti Park, fortunately it's become more practical since then.
  Thu. 12/15/11 7:01pm Marmalade Kitty:

Clay, yours is the only reliable documented source for the OWS movement I have seen
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