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Favoriting March 18, 2024: Ian Johnson, author of "Sparks," on China's underground historians

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Today: Ian Johnson, author, "Sparks: China's Underground Historians and Their Battle for the Future"

Thanks to everyone who made the WFMU marathon a success!

Correction from marathon week 1: Weyland-Yutani was from Alien, not Blade Runner - of course!

• Sparks: China’s Underground Historians and Their Battle for the Future, by Ian Johnson

• China Unofficial Archives, created by Ian Johnson - “This site is dedicated to making accessible the key documents, movies, blogs, and publications of a movement of Chinese people seeking to reclaim their country’s history.”

• ian-johnson.com, Ian’s site

• Weapons of the Weak: Everyday Forms of Peasant Resistance, by James C. Scott

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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtoniclers!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark! Techyons!
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DanFA:

Hello Mark.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:01pm
Hugo (NL):

Robots ahoy!
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David (in London):

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:01pm
DanFA:

I was expecting more of a tech angle on your song choice last night.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:02pm
StringOFperils:

Ready for my retinal scan, Mr. DeMille
Avatar 6:02pm
Fredericks:

↳ DanFA @6:01
Sometimes a guy has to follow his art.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:03pm
chris in the redwoods:

hi, Mark and folks.
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bleubombersune:

Mark and all. good evening
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:04pm
Franco Twinkie:

Hey Mark! Point for last nights coordinated outfits with Joe.
  6:04pm
P-90:

In fine voice last night, Mark
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonicians!
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Ike:

Can't stop doomscrolling? Can't put down the phone? Scrolling all night long when you're supposed to sleep?
internetaddictsanonymous.org

Thanks again to Mark for doing a show about this last summer.
  6:05pm
Ochre Ogre:

Hi Mark!
  ♥ 6:05pm
tom tom the pipers son:

hello mark and listeners...
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Deano de los Muertos:

I heard you were great Mark, I fell sadly fell asleep a few numbers in, I’ll have to watch the full video later
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:06pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ Ike @6:04
Hello Ike. Was that your little bit of funniness on Sam's show last week?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:07pm
DanFA:

↳ Deano de los Muertos @6:05
Here you go. wfmu.org...
Avatar 🤖 ♥ 6:08pm
MarciB:

Somehow I missed Mark's performance...video time!
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Ike:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:06
Which one? I have a very short memory. Things are constantly falling out of my brain.
  6:10pm
Danny in Poughkeepsie:

Hello Mark
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:10pm
Webhamster Henry:

Hi Techtoniques!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:11pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ Ike @6:08
Saying I was a comment board superstar. I'm not on that kind of familiar basis with Nate. But none the less, it was well placed.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:11pm
ultradamno:

There's been a fair amount of whataboutism on the dem side, on account of TikTok having an aspect of being a useful campaigning tool, but just because other social media apps have issues worth looking at doesn't mean the should be dropped.
  6:11pm
Ochre Ogre:

Interesting episode on PBS Nova,"Inside China's Tech Boom."
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:12pm
Webhamster Henry:

We of Tessier-Ashpool pooh-pooh Weyland-Yutani
Avatar 🤖 ♥ 6:12pm
herb.nyc:

Hola. Sounds like Ian Johnson is doing a Howard Zinn kinda book, highlighting a different history
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:13pm
Peter from Saranac Lake NY:

Hello Mark and everyone.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:13pm
bleubombersune:

Why is the US gov., specifically the def. dept. providing $$$ for him to build a spy network. What guarantees do citizens have that Musk will not undermine the US gov. Also, doesn't the US gov. have enough bright minds to build a spy network
Avatar 🤖 ♥ 6:13pm
MarciB:

This sounds similar to the film "Total Trust" -which I want to see. And read this book too!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:14pm
ultradamno:

screenrant.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:16pm
ultradamno:

By the way, the movie Dream Scenario is on HBO now, which has certain cancel culture/social media commentary themes in it.
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StringOFperils:

↳ bleubombersune @6:13
No more guarantee than that U.S. security agencies won't undermine the U.S. gov't. Not like that hasn't ever happened....outside of existing redacted and conveniently-omitted history
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:17pm
ultradamno:

↳ ultradamno @6:14
Blue Sun being the Firefly/Serenity equivalent firefly.fandom.com...
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newton:

↳ bleubombersune @6:13
we had a spy network, and a space program. radical capitalists insisted the government get out of businesses, and these government programs that were for the benefit of all became privatized.
  6:22pm
Tom from Stirling:

Sounds like the movie "Quills" about Marquis de Sade
  6:23pm
mr 6:

The attack against TikTok is backed by FakeBook because TikTok is making more money and more user friendly
TikTok does not censor based on political or religious affiliation and does not censor news/videos in the Middle East or elsewhere. AIPAC is pushing the Government to stop it.
Also TikTok is not a Chinese company nor does it answer to China
Prove me wrong
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PaulRobeson1924:

Good evening one and all
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:25pm
PaulRobeson1924:

Castrated? Chemically castrated or with a blade?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:27pm
PaulRobeson1924:

There are fates worse than castration
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StringOFperils:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:27
Like watching Barbie?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:30pm
ultradamno:

Well, being Ken isn't as bad, what else have you known?
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Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining this evening!
  6:30pm
Ochre Ogre:

I'm reminded of the documentary film "The Brink" by Alison Klayman. It's about steve bannon, ...' as he attempts to form a global populist movement with like-minded individuals such as Nigel Farage, Marine Le Pen, Jair Bolsonaro, Viktor Orban'... WIKI

bannon and roger stone are so f'n dangerous!
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PaulRobeson1924:

↳ StringOFperils @6:29
Good evening, Mr,StringOFperils. Not quite
  6:32pm
Dave:

More and more it seems like we should be busy trying to live up to these values we preach over here. Because we seem to be the country falling into some insane abyss.
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Mark Hurst:

China Unofficial Archives - minjian-danganguan.org
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DanFA:

↳ StringOFperils @6:29
It's not that bad.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:37pm
ultradamno:

...for a Jezebel think piece masquerading as a feature film
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StringOFperils:

↳ ultradamno @6:37
Would have been some kind of breakthrough 40 years ago.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:39pm
DanFA:

So much Barbie hate here.
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Handy Haversack:

University presses publish a lot of lit in translation -- both Chinese and Taiwanese. I could name one especially ...
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ultradamno:

How did weird Barbie get to be weird Barbie by being played with by children while having no experience with the world of humans? The movie is rife with holes.
  6:42pm
Danny in Poughkeepsie:

After reading Kara Swishers Burn Book I am so glad I never used social networks. Highly recommended
  6:43pm
loquat:

love the guest. so smart and well informed. thankssss
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Mark Hurst:

↳ loquat @6:43
thanks, loquat
  6:44pm
Ochre Ogre:

Apparently China is supporting putin and his invasion of Ukraine.
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ultradamno:

Sure, they would (Taiwan)
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StringOFperils:

↳ DanFA @6:39
I liked it. It's just not the same thing as a really good film. If you watch a really good film, you will notice a distinct difference. Unless Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby is a good fil. then, Barbie IS a good film. Depends on the baseline.
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ultradamno:

It has an entertainment value and is much more enjoyable than, say, anything Zack Snyder has ever done, I'll give it that much.
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tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Ochre Ogre @6:44
i've read the xi is largely indifferent to russia
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:47pm
DanFA:

↳ Danny in Poughkeepsie @6:42
Gotta read it. Big fan.
  6:48pm
Ochre Ogre:

A musician friend of mine wrote a book "Live at the Forbidden City"on his experiences in China about 30 years ago.
  6:49pm
Ochre Ogre:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:46
Hope that is the truth.
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MarciB:

A client of mine had about 500 slides from a visit to rural China c. 1970. I scanned them all and felt like I went on a journey into another world.
  6:49pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ ultradamno @6:46
"Quills" was a good film.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:50pm
ultradamno:

↳ Tom from Stirling @6:49
Meh.
  ♥ 6:51pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Ochre Ogre @6:49
just took a quick look... there are some online opinions expressing this pov
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:51pm
chresti:

Duck duck go has a video viewer for YouTube videos
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:51pm
DanFA:

Is WFMU on TikTok?
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PaulRobeson1924:

Are there any Castrato singers on Tic Tok
  6:52pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

I wish all the social media would be banned. Along with pornography
  6:52pm
Tom from Stirling:

↳ ultradamno @6:50
Hard to please.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:52pm
DanFA:

There was a good Frontline piece on TikTok.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:53pm
PaulRobeson1924:

↳ DanFA @6:51
If WFMU is on tiktok- yes there are Castrato singers
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StringOFperils:

↳ ultradamno @6:50
If you loved Quills, try Marat Sade. It's a much better treatment of the conditions that created De Sade
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:54pm
2/3 of the Perrin Family:

Thank you for that haunting version of I'm Gonna Be. A great marathon and a great show today as always.
  6:54pm
mr 6:

By dance is not owned my china, and it does not own TikTok
  6:54pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

Tik Tok has effectively ruined gen z in this country and generally turned everyone into hostile clout goblins
  6:54pm
Ochre Ogre:

I wonder if Tiktok is also partly designed to shorten our attention spans even More?!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:55pm
DanFA:

Steve Mnuchin wants to buy it.
  6:55pm
Dave:

Our 'chief adversary'... Mark sounds like he's talking from a podium at the Pentagon.
  6:55pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

Yes they are. They all have blue hair.
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PaulRobeson1924:

↳ Frank Talk About Humans @6:54
But what about the Castrati singers?
  6:56pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

I’m talking bout the Island Boys
  ♥ 6:56pm
tom tom the pipers son:

this tik tiok thread started with the spy balloons
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DanFA:

Facebook
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chris in the redwoods:

i’m dubious about any difference it would make to have TikTok owned by a US company, tbh.
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chris in the redwoods:

↳ chris in the redwoods @6:56
oh. what Mark just said.
  6:57pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

It’s all very bad
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PaulRobeson1924:

↳ PaulRobeson1924 @6:55
Think what shutting down tiktoc would do to their careers!
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Julian in LA:

usa just wants to be able to control the narrative
  6:58pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

Well it’s totally happening on Tik Tok by the CCCP though and that’s the issue here.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:58pm
Julian in LA:

they can't control the politcal narrative on tik tok like they do facebook womp womp
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Handy Haversack:

Many thanks, Mark!
  6:58pm
Ochre Ogre:

Seriously going after facebook!
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Thank you Mark Hurst!!!
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PaulRobeson1924:

Let them sing!!!
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Julian in LA:

thanks mark good show
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chris in the redwoods:

thanks, Mark!
  6:58pm
scott:

Gandalf, Saruman, or Leland Sklar?
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StringOFperils:

Carreid out by, largely, young Americans. In the tech sector. Eager young Americans. Eager to surveil the others. For big Cash. What to do...
  6:58pm
Ochre Ogre:

Thanks Mark, good gig last night!
  6:58pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

Political narrative on Tik Tok has people chemically castrating themselves and screaming at strangers
  6:58pm
Danny in Poughkeepsie:

Thanks Mark another great show. Cheers
Avatar ♥ 6:59pm
HyperDose:

謝謝馬克！(Thanks Mark!)
  6:59pm
loquat:

what about staying off Twitter
  6:59pm
Google:

Lighten up! Everything is fine & dandy!
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PaulRobeson1924:

Peace & LoVe ya’ll! Remember
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:59pm
StringOFperils:

But WFMU reached its goal, so world peace can't be far behind!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 6:59pm
Julian in LA:

it also has people thinkin killing babies in gaza is wrong
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 7:00pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! See you in two weeks!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member ♥ 7:00pm
Julian in LA:

that's the part that they want to stop....
  7:00pm
Brian K from Charlottesville:

500 miles! Nice touch, Mark. Great duet with Joe McG last night.
  7:00pm
Ochre Ogre:

↳ Google @6:59
yes good what ever you say
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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