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Favoriting October 2, 2023: JOB playwright Max Friedlich

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Today: Max Friedlich, playwright, JOB

JOB at SoHo Playhouse

Kenyan moderators decry toll of training of AI models (Guardian, Aug 2, 2023):

While employed by Sama in 2021 and 2022 in Nairobi to review content for OpenAI, the content moderators allege, they suffered psychological trauma, low pay and abrupt dismissal.

The 51 moderators in Nairobi working on Sama’s OpenAI account were tasked with reviewing texts, and some images, many depicting graphic scenes of violence, self-harm, murder, rape, necrophilia, child abuse, bestiality and incest, the petitioners say.

The moderators say they weren’t adequately warned about the brutality of some of the text and images they would be tasked with reviewing, and were offered no or inadequate psychological support. Workers were paid between $1.46 and $3.74 an hour, according to a Sama spokesperson.
CEO regrets her firm took on Facebook moderation work after staff ‘traumatised’ (Guardian, Aug 16, 2023):
Daniel Motaung, who was hired as a Facebook content moderator by Sama in 2019, filed a lawsuit against the two companies last year, alleging he had been exposed to graphic and traumatic content at work without adequate prior knowledge or proper psychosocial support – which he said left him with post-traumatic stress disorder.
September 16, 2019 Techtonic: Sarah T. Roberts, author of “Behind the Screen,” on content moderators

Facebook moderator: ‘Every day was a nightmare’ (BBC, May 12, 2021):
Isabella Plunkett has worked as a Facebook content moderator for just over two years, and still works there.

Her job is to review posts on the platform - which can contain graphic violence, exploitation, extremism, abuse and suicide.

The 26-year-old says she could not speak to her friends or family about the things she saw at work due to a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) which she had signed at the beginning of her contract.
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Listener comments!

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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonicians!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hello wired community!
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ultradamno:

Mark! Members of the Techompany! Break a leg!
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Peter from Boonton formerly Dover NJ:

Hello Mark and techies. I seldom get a chance to sign in to the comments; glad I'm here today.
Avatar 🤖 6:04pm
herb.nyc:

TheaTAH? I love the theaTAH!
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Fredericks:

What you call hell, he calls heck.
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tim:

Hey Mark! Sounds like a great interview tonight! Hi everybody!
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Deano de los Muertos:

Howdy Mark and tech tachyons
Avatar 🤖 6:06pm
herb.nyc:

I see Peter Friedman is in the play. I’ve seen him before. He’s vg
Avatar 6:06pm
PolakSlovak:

Good evening Mark and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi chresti, Bas, ultra, Peter, herb, Fredericks, tim, Deano, PolakSlovak! Thanks for joining this evening.
Avatar 🤖 6:09pm
herb.nyc:

(Aside- last night’s wnyc Snap Judgment has story of guy has a nanny who is like an older hippie. But results are not what is expected)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Mark Hurst, Max, and all!!!
  6:10pm
tom tom the pipers son:

hope this is not going in direction of "hippy to the rescue"
  6:11pm
David (in London):

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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tim:

I can’t believe this actually happens.
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tim:

↳ tim @6:15
I also live under a rock.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
PaulRobeson1923:

Cyberspace
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tim:

Did viewers know this was fiction?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:18pm
Mark Hurst:

↳ Will thee Sound Guy @6:10
welcome, Will!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Ciggy:

My exposure to internet characters was through the TV show, Push Nevada
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
coelacanth∅:

"larping", also known as "acting"
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G:

Is your playwright on a speaker phone? Kinda echoey... :-)
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PolakSlovak:

↳ tim @6:17
I second this – curious if the followers knew they were fictional characters or not!?
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coelacanth∅:

"cosplay", also previously known as "acting".
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tim:

↳ PolakSlovak @6:20
Our question was just answered - haha!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
tim:

This year in particular I feel pretty regularly that the world is passing me by in ways that are conceptually beyond me. Max’s story about his tech job is a perfect example of this for me.
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swivs:

Social media wouldn't be so bad if wasn't for all the people on it.
  6:26pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:20
i like your point of revising the lingo back to actual root, but maybe larping and cosplay denote that there,s a virtual element to the 'acting'
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tim:

How old is Max, Mark?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Bas NL:

But what is it content managers actually do?
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PolakSlovak:

↳ tim @6:27
"29-year-old playwright" (can be seen in the more info dropdown of this playlist)
:)
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Bas NL @6:28
I'll talk more about content moderators after the interview... but basically they view horrible posts and videos and decide which ones to take down.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:26
so, "pretending"?
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tim:

↳ PolakSlovak @6:29
Hahaha! Thanks!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

↳ swivs @6:26
Truth
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Bas NL:

↳ Mark Hurst @6:29
Garbage removers... nice job. :|
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Mark Hurst:

↳ Bas NL @6:32
"Garbage" is too polite a term for what they are forced to view.
  6:33pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:30
i dunno, i think the silly artificiality of the words work in context...
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tim:

↳ Bas NL @6:32
Sanitation workers are generally well compensated. Tech content moderators should be compensated well too.
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coelacanth∅:

↳ tom tom the pipers son @6:33
true. those terms do instantly describe the generation &/or culture being referenced
  6:35pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ tim @6:34
ha!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
tim:

Is Mark angling to be on stage?
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coelacanth∅:

but boomers and xers are the idiots that created the millenials and zoomers!
  6:37pm
P-90:

1972 is indeed “deep in the trough” of the Gen X demographic
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swivs:

↳ tim @6:37
"Social Media: THE MUSICAL"
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Bas NL:

↳ tim @6:34
Good point, Tim.
  6:39pm
Frances:

generational grievances are artificial and stereotyping. there are good and bad in all of them
  6:39pm
P-90:

we didn’t “create” them!
they just sort of snuck up in us, the little buggers
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Jim the Poet:

Gen X rulez
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coelacanth∅:

haha!
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ultradamno:

↳ Jim the Poet @6:39
Well, have control over the latchkeys, anyway...
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coelacanth∅:

↳ P-90 @6:39
(i'll do that again P-90...)
haha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
StringOFperils:

I'm a boomer , so I don't understand any of this. How did I get here...where did I put my keys....
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Frances @6:39
it's true... as hypocritical and dishonest as male/female grievances or republican/democratic grievances
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
coelacanth∅:

↳ StringOFperils @6:42
yeah i just screwed up replying to another comment... my head is swirling with this technology
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm
tim:

Great interview, Mark. This was a cool angle to the show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:45pm
Travisano66:

GREAT INTERVIEW, MARK! So good to hear a smart young creator with a sense of humor and intelligence able to get something out there for the people to enjoy. Nice score finding this guy and his play!
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StringOFperils:

That sounds like a good play to see. complex conversations to be had
  6:46pm
tom tom the pipers son:

↳ Frances @6:39
i like that point, frances...
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tim:

I want to see It’s Complicated : The Musical.
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StringOFperils:

Fantastix!? The Mousetrap would be a better analogue
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disco_nap_:

Nice Fantasticks reference@
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disco_nap_:

↳ disco_nap_ @6:47
*!
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coelacanth∅:

it won't be still running in 2025.
by 2025 those of us that survived will only be allowed to see the plays that google wants us to see.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm
tim:

Mark’s premium has an excellent cover too!
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JohnEBGood:

I love this show. Thanks Mark : )
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PaulRobeson1923:

↳ StringOFperils @6:42
The Boomers could not stop The Bomb and now cannot find their keys.

Good evening, String
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tim:

Man, this is so sad. As in heart-rendering.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
StringOFperils:

They didn't put the eye-clamps on properly
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PolakSlovak:

This is unbelievable. I had no idea about this, Mark. Sorry to hear this terrible info about Sama's OpenAI moderators. Thanks for enlightening us all!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
PaulRobeson1923:

↳ tim @6:25
Evenin’ tim. So long as u stay regular in that special room, yer gonna be gonna be alright baby
  6:57pm
chresti:

Thanks mark!
  6:57pm
P-90:

“hidden workplaces” gotta get back for a little more on that subject soon
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Bas NL:

Thanks Mark! Thanks Max!
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PolakSlovak:

Thanks so much Mark, interesting as always!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
ultradamno:

Time piece about Luddites and Blood In The Machine time.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
tim:

Thank you, Mark! Good episode tonight.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

Thank you Mark, Max, and the accu peeps!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Bas NL:

Gen AI?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
StringOFperils:

Living in a William Gibson novel
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
ultradamno:

And dancing with knives!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
tim:

Man, Jack Brewer had it right. We don’t need freedom.
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coelacanth∅:

kids now are learning conversation from this non-human shit.
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