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Favoriting May 15, 2023: Mark tries to convince Matt Warwick to say no to a brain chip

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A.I. Is Getting Better at Mind-Reading (NYT, May 1, 2023)

In their study, Dr. Huth and his colleagues effectively reversed the process, using another A.I. to translate the participant’s fMRI images into words and phrases. The researchers tested the decoder by having the participants listen to new recordings, then seeing how closely the translation matched the actual transcript.

Almost every word was out of place in the decoded script, but the meaning of the passage was regularly preserved. Essentially, the decoders were paraphrasing.

Original transcript: “I got up from the air mattress and pressed my face against the glass of the bedroom window expecting to see eyes staring back at me but instead only finding darkness.”

Decoded from brain activity: “I just continued to walk up to the window and open the glass I stood on my toes and peered out I didn’t see anything and looked up again I saw nothing.” While under the fMRI scan, the participants were also asked to silently imagine telling a story; afterward, they repeated the story aloud, for reference. Here, too, the decoding model captured the gist of the unspoken version.

Participant’s version: “Look for a message from my wife saying that she had changed her mind and that she was coming back.”

Decoded version: “To see her for some reason I thought she would come to me and say she misses me.”
AI makes non-invasive mind-reading possible by turning thoughts into text (The Guardian, May 1, 2023): “An AI-based decoder that can translate brain activity into a continuous stream of text has been developed, in a breakthrough that allows a person’s thoughts to be read non-invasively for the first time. The decoder could reconstruct speech with uncanny accuracy while people listened to a story – or even silently imagined one – using only fMRI scan data.”

A Mind-Reading AI Translated People’s Brain Scans Into Words and Sentences (The Daily Beast, May 1, 2023): "the subjects told five 1-minute stories while recorded by the fMRI. They then told the stories aloud to provide reference transcripts. The study’s authors were able to identify the story that the subjects were telling after decoding their brain scans. While the decoder wasn’t perfect and could only translate broader thoughts and ideas, it still matched the accuracy of the actual transcripts more closely than if things were left to pure chance."

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Listener comments!

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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtonic Youth!

The song "Chiphead" by Alien Trilogy would be good to close out this show...
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Deano de los Muertos:

Hello Mark and Matt 🤖🗑️
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DanFA:

Oh hello, I didn't see you there.
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DanFA:

Chip his brain!
Chip his brain!
Chip his brain!
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Handy Haversack:

Just popping in for a sec. Off to softball. Let's all try not to get implanted with anything, eh?

Later on, Mark and all the Techyon particles!
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TDK60:

Don't do it, Matt!
  6:02pm
chresti:

Hi mark and Matt and techtoniacs!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi Matt! Artificial and human intelligences!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm
ultradamno:

↳ Song: "Game Boy Tune" by "Tomaš Dvořák"
I take the salesman's security point, when you do anything into the abyss, it does stare back into you
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Deano de los Muertos:

I’m a pseudo-intelligence
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Handy Haversack:

I'm afraid that if I wore that jacket I'd pull a shoulder ligature.
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HyperDose:

Do it, Matt! Do it!
  6:04pm
David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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Micheal:

Mark and Matt! How great!
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melinda:

hi friends!
  6:06pm
Late Bloomer:

Matt is the man!
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PaulRobeson1923:

We are all Matt, now
  6:07pm
Late Bloomer:

Radio gold
  6:08pm
Mattynotimes:

This is already amazing
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Deano de los Muertos:

A lively bunch of Techtaggios tonight…
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Will thee Sound Guy:

Hi Mark Hurst, Matt Warwick, and all!!!
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HyperDose:

The free version interrupts the thought translation with a Dominos ad
  6:10pm
Bojangles:

Matt, I love you… but take him to task, Mark
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
DanFA:

I rewatched Scanners recently and there is a scene where the scanner hero accesses a computer by mentally scanning its CPU.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining! Just saying hi before returning to the live interview with Matt.
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DanFA:

I wish I had some mangoes.
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Jeff Golick:

I feel incepted.
  6:12pm
Mattynotimes:

Im so glad you reminded me of that old thots joke. That killed me
  6:12pm
Rolando:

I‘m loving this show!
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tim from washington:

Hi Mark! Hi Matt! Hi everyone!
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DanFA:

Trepanation is no fun.
  6:16pm
tgravel:

Sounds great for people with disabilities
  6:18pm
Rolando:

There is a product like that ! It’s called a DIARY 📖
  6:18pm
Sam:

Thoughts aren’t just statements that can be expressed in words. They’re a mixture of words, feelings, impressions. When I’m half asleep I swear I’ll have a thought that has multiple meanings, it’s more a relationship of two visceral concepts than any logical statement. So no, they’ll never actually “read” our thoughts.
  6:19pm
gauche knee:

😆 The Olivia Sigh™️
Love the conversation, an FMU leisurely take on Lincoln -Douglas debate.
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Folsom:

Matt should make a Don Felder AI
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Nikita:

#teamterrified
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Jeff Moore:

Soundboard Olivia is a brilliant element here!
Avatar 6:22pm
Nikita:

↳ tgravel @6:16
True!
  6:22pm
Sam:

Like you eat a madeleine and instantly remember a moment from childhood. Would it be able to read that? Certain smells remind me of my grandpa’s house and a slew of memories related to that. No machine could read all that correctly. I hope.
  6:22pm
yippie:

I was thinking it could be good if Matt got a microchip. if he ran away or got stolen it can help ken and Olivia bring him back to the station. he could get a coupon for his vaccines too
  6:23pm
mr 6:

Matt needs the goodtogo app. Crazy discounts from restaurants at the end of the day. I got 6 specialty pizza slices and a rice ball last night for 6.32
  6:24pm
Sam:

You get a pint of ice cream every day so long as you think happy approved thoughts. If you think bad thoughts you get zapped in the genitals. So there’s pros and cons.
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Uleeshuh TN:

"Money for nuthin when you click for free" (not Dire Sraits"
  6:26pm
mr 6:

Sam,Some may prefer a zap to the genitalia over the ice cream
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Franco Twinkie:

I'm a charter member of The Unsuccessful Club!
  6:27pm
Rolando:

I remember Marks first interview with Matt Warwick, if I remember right, he had loads of apps on his phone.
  6:27pm
Sam:

↳ mr 6 @6:26
Yeah that’s true, ha!
  6:28pm
mr 6:

Rolando,Yes!!!!
  6:28pm
Mattynotimes:

I am dying
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ultradamno:

↳ DanFA @6:15
Especially the analog way of doing it twitter.com...
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melinda:

↳ Rolando @6:27
I remember that one
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Franco Twinkie:

< this youngster just spilled dirty oil all over the driveway. I think I need to go back outside.
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Juli:

So dystopian!!!
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StringOFperils:

Err Pods
  6:31pm
mr 6:

Does Matt still play Pokémon Go?
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Juli:

No more daydreaming allowed:::
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DanFA:

Do these happy helmets have smiles the McDonald smile on them?
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PaulRobeson1923:

↳ Franco Twinkie @6:30
If it’s concrete or stone take a blow torch to the earl. Asphalt use Speedydry
  6:33pm
Cletus:

I think we’re long overdue for a softball interview with Matt Tahini
  6:34pm
Marie in Queens:

They'll never be able to keep employees and companies will compete for the employees by saying they will not monitor
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tim from washington:

Are there legal precedents about invasive technology and employees?
  6:34pm
Marie in Queens:

Amazon's whole MO is to only keep workers for a short time, intentionally
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm
melinda:

↳ tim from washington @6:34
good question
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StringOFperils:

This sounds like an extension of the way things have been for the last 20 years where I've been working. Digitally tracked. In the panopticon. Animation Studio. So eager to be that way too. Two screens every second tracked. Wveryone wthcin each other and reporting in. and os what if it's fiction, as long as I get promoted....new tools, same stories.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm
tim from washington:

Matt needs a thought reader so Bruce can understand Matt’s needs better.
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Juli:

Using one is supporting the tech
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chresti:

I don't think it's legal to make people wear happy helmets for employment?
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StringOFperils:

Exploitative becomes mutually predatory.
  6:38pm
mr 6:

Wear the device watch scat porn get free Metamucil and Toilet paper
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melinda:

Just say no to the happy helmet Matt
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Juli:

He's jokes might be reality

Lol which is horrifying Matt
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tim from washington:

Happy helmets are for pickleball players.
  6:38pm
Sam:

It’s morally weak people like Matt that end up making life miserable for everybody! Damn it Matt, take a stand!
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chresti:

↳ tim from washington @6:38
Lol
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Juli:

We're all "just one person" until it becomes a million
  6:39pm
Blissland:

Smart phones have already been pervasively normalized. That's pretty terrifying. Or it would be if it wasn't already normalized.
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StringOFperils:

Wear the device and have its cost deducted from your paycheck, in instalments you can't refuse under threat of (permanent) layoff
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melinda:

holy crap that's a shock collar for humans
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tim from washington:

That’s called a shock collar!
  6:41pm
Sam:

What happens if you think “I don’t like the little buzz”?
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PaulRobeson1923:

Does AI LoVe the Bomb?
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coelacanth∅:

learn to love the shock
  6:41pm
Blissland:

We will all love big brother
  6:42pm
Lerch:

omg, Warwick, you are so annoying
  6:42pm
Sam:

Matt is channeling Andy Breckman
  6:42pm
Marie in Queens:

I heard they're working on connecting the shock to a private part of which men have 2
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Juli:

I am horrified.

Lol literal.
  6:42pm
Marie in Queens:

just kidding
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Fredericks:

How much ice cream will he be getting? Mark answered as I typed. Three pints.
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tim from washington:

MARK! Offer Matt free ice creamNOT to wear a happy helmet!
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coelacanth∅:

seriously. big brother's intentions are for your benefit.
just think the right thoughts.
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Uleeshuh TN:

Matt's love for ice cream is more intense then I knew possible.
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Juli:

This is why the world is ending.

Literal.
Lol.
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MarciB:

All I can say is -again- thank goodness I'm a solopreneur. I feel sorry for GenZ.
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Franco Twinkie:

Kind of like giving yourself a good poke with a needle - after awhile it's no big whoop.
  6:44pm
Sam:

First they came for the thought criminals.
And I said nothing, because they gave me a pint of ice cream.
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Fredericks:

Ice cream is never free, Matt.
  6:44pm
Charles:

If you don't play Top 40 music during your radio show you get shocked.
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Juli:

We're all j one person w no effect on others: when actually everything effects everything and one lol
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Team Mark.
Hi, Team Matt.
  6:44pm
gauche knee:

Excellent point, Juli! ❤️ There is power in numbers & community.
  6:45pm
Blissland:

↳ Blissland @6:39
That's exactly my point they are talking about now. But I won't get one.
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Drunken Creep:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @6:44
Hola Ken
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DJ Terre T:

Usually listen to archive but home early enough to listen live + what luck ! This ep is such a funny good one.
Matt is a perfect “every guy” funny foil for
Mark’s intelligence, rationality + sharp as nails reasoning ❤️🙏👍
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coelacanth∅:

↳ Juli @6:44
an injury to one is an injury to all
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PaulRobeson1923:

“You dreamt of me last night”
  6:46pm
Blissland:

The smart phone has been normalized so no one is horrified anymore.
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melinda:

↳ Blissland @6:46
Indeed
  6:46pm
Rolando:

This what google did to Business’ using Google Suit Apps accounts, first it was free and then they send a nemail to say things have changed . - now you pay!!
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MarciB:

"They already have everything" is the worst possible statement. C'mon, Matt!
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Juli:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:45
<3


Complete truth.
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PaulRobeson1923:

!!!!! YER ALREADY WEARING THE HAPPY HELEMT. Inside you. Find me
  6:48pm
Marie in Queens:

Smart phones are not as offensive as a thought reader. I don't think people will react the same to it....
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Uleeshuh TN:

The happy helmet is making Matt love ice cream too much 😬
  6:49pm
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AI will harvest all
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tim from washington:

I can picture Mark right now. Sleeves rolled up, top three buttons, unbuttoned, mopping his brow with a hankerchief and an ashtray full of cigarettes trying to get through to Matt.
  6:49pm
Blissland:

Eventually none of this will matter because they will be able to do whatever they want remotely whether you use their technology or not.
  6:49pm
Marie in Queens:

Great articles in Guardian today about the death of Meta and the irrational fear of AI... food for thought
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StringOFperils:

Matty's holding out for the Happy Bucket Hat
  6:50pm
mr 6:

My boss makes us wear a blue tooth device to answer the phone while driving that rings and vibrates. Yup bought my own Blu tooth
  6:50pm
Lerch:

Your show is so great when you're spinning platters, Matt
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chresti:

↳ StringOFperils @6:35
Yeah, and worse for remote workers- I think my son got in trouble for taking a long lunch break
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MarciB:

↳ Marie in Queens @6:49
ohhh- will check them out!
  6:51pm
Rolando:

Funny Foil - love it.
  6:51pm
Blissland:

It could be based on old psychotronic technology
  6:51pm
Bojangles:

You’re killing me, Matt
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ultradamno:

How is it the worst one without mentioning the worst thing!
  6:51pm
Marie in Queens:

Oh, and I meant to say the met averse--the death of the metaverse
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DjLorraine:

It reminds me (saddly) of how they train dancing bears
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PaulRobeson1923:

“Teacher I have to use the restroom”

Sorry kid- Brain machine says yer making it up. Back to yer seat
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mndave:

re: TikTok, my friend's a heavy user and i can't hold his attention for 30 seconds so yep!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm
tim from washington:

This episode is going to end with Mark putting on the happy helmet.
  6:52pm
?:

Red pill vs Blue pill 🤣
  6:52pm
Marie in Queens:

Idea: a Mattaverse!
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tim from washington:

↳ Marie in Queens @6:52
Yes!
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PaulRobeson1923:

Will The Bomb make us safe?
  6:54pm
Marie in Queens:

I worry about a lot of things but I am not worried about mind reading technology. I just don't think it will progress much beyond where it is now in terms of its capabilities
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Sometimes I imagine machines that read dogs' minds. The dogs are on buggies that go where the dogs desire. Then all the dogs wind up at the garbage dump or the waste treatment facility.
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StringOFperils:

Reading most peoples' minds will be like watching the fireplace channel.
  6:55pm
Marie in Queens:

lol
  6:55pm
Blissland:

I don't want to know what's going on in most people's minds
  6:56pm
Sam:

↳ Marie in Queens @6:54
There will be too many negative thoughts to manage. They won’t be able to enforce the “proper” thoughts. It’ll be like Prohibition.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
coelacanth∅:

i don't worry about thought police. it won't happen in my lifetime.

...what, i'm already being controlled?
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Jeff Moore:

The sound is all crackly – the telltale sign of a recent dump?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Mennlinn Rebarts:

'Gatcha' is simply an onomatopoeia for the sound the machine makes after you put in the coin and turn the knob.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
DjLorraine:

This show is like fine Japanese carpentery joinery
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm
PaulRobeson1923:

In 18months-36Months most kids in America will have Brain Wave Earbuds.

As Sure as the Television was welcomed into peoples homes. Can u stop the Television? Try and prevent brainwave stuff, if you can
  6:57pm
Marie in Queens:

↳ Sam @6:56
Yeah. I don't think it is feasible
  6:58pm
Barbie:

Sounds like a solution to over population
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Uleeshuh TN:

I i dont know what I think after this
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melinda:

↳ Marie in Queens @6:48
Great show, thanks Mark and Matt!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Deano de los Muertos:

Thanks fellows, great show as always Mark. Can’t wait for Garbage Time 😎
Avatar 🤖 6:58pm
MarciB:

Will the Brain Wave earbuds be more popular than the Big Tech eyeglass spyware?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
2/3 of the Perrin Family:

Matt I will give you a pint of ice cream every week for you not to take the happy hat. Thank you!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
melinda:

wait that wasn't supposed to be a response
  6:58pm
Akiva:

Terrifying
  6:58pm
Cletus:

Can we get the reverb button pulled out of the studio?
  6:58pm
Sam:

A happy helmet MADE of banana bread!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
coelacanth∅:

the world is a shitshow Matt. it's way beyond healing and the few in charge are too stupid to know that they're Fucked too. we're all Fucked.
Avatar 🤖 6:59pm
MarciB:

↳ Cletus @6:58
Yes!!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & Matt!
  6:59pm
Marie in Queens:

M & M--thanks!
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Juli:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:58
That's not the way to help>
  6:59pm
Sam:

Matt’s gluttony will kill us all
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:59pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

The chips they implant in our brains will tell us which exciting new products to buy! Thanks, guys!
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StringOFperils:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:58
That always gives me peace of mind. The fuckers are equally fucked.
  7:00pm
Blissland:

I want the happy helmet that Stimpy made for Ren
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coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark! Thanks Matt!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
tim from washington:

Thanks, Mark!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
PaulRobeson1923:

↳ coelacanth∅ @6:58
Strongly Disagree
  7:00pm
James Akers:

Great show, Matt is funny, but a good case study. Open source need to be frictionless and provide "ice cream"
  7:00pm
Sam:

Matt would get a chip implanted in him if it was made of potato
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:00pm
PaulRobeson1923:

“I want to ride The Bomb like a real Cowboy!”
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chresti:

Thanks Mark and Matt!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm
Will thee Sound Guy:

Thank you Mark, Matt, and Accu Peeps!!!
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