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Favoriting February 14, 2022: The time I met Jeff Bezos: reflecting on how success changed Amazon & Bezos

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How Hard Would It Be to Hit Jeff Bezos’s Superyacht With a Rotten Egg? (by Clio Chang, Curbed, Feb 8, 2022): “A group of residents in Rotterdam has put out a call to throw rotten eggs at Jeff Bezos’s superyacht when it passes through the city’s river in June. The event, succinctly titled ‘Throwing eggs at superyacht Jeff Bezos,’ is a response to reports that the city is considering a plan to dismantle the historic Koningshaven Bridge to allow Bezos’s $500 million, and apparently very tall, new superyacht to take to the sea.”

MacKenzie Scott (Wikipedia entry): “As of November 2021, she has a net worth of US$62.2 billion, owing to a 4% stake in Amazon. ... Scott made US$5.8 billion in charitable gifts in 2020, one of the largest annual distributions by a private individual to working charities. She donated a further $2.7 billion in 2021.”

Reposting from last week’s show...

Amazon Breaks Record for One-Day Gain in Market Cap (WSJ, Feb 5, 2022): "Shares surged 14% Friday, their biggest one-day jump in almost seven years. The added $191 billion to Amazon’s market value, eclipsing the record Apple set just last week when it added $181 billion after posting quarterly results that shattered previous records."

Lawmakers Press Amazon on Sales of Chemical Used in Suicides (NYT, Feb 4, 2022). As Vice's Maxwell Strachan put it:



• Bezos has come a long way since his Taco Bell commercial (yes, really) in 2001.

The true cost of Amazon’s low prices (by Sara Morrison, Vox, Jan 13, 2022): “Sarah Miller, executive director of the American Economic Liberties Project, an anti-monopoly advocacy group, [says]: ‘Amazon leverages its power in one space to take over a new space, which is core to their business practice. They have the ability to combine the competitive advantages of different aspects of their business to take over new sectors of the economy.’”

Amazon vs. N.Y.’s small businesses: The little guys need a 21st century antitrust act (Natasha Amott op-ed in N.Y. Daily News, Jan 31, 2022): “When monopolies like Amazon are allowed to dominate single marketplaces so fully, small businesses see the effect in what they can afford to pay their staff; in what rents they can afford to pay to property owners; and in how they fight to stay a part of the American middle class.”

And...

• From Insider (Feb 9, 2022): “Amazon has expanded its new medical service to Boston, Dallas, Austin, and Los Angeles. Called Amazon Care, the venture provides primary care through an app to self-insured companies or those that pay for their employees’ medical expenses — and it’s already signed up big employers Whole Foods and Hilton.”

Pat Garofalo (Feb 9, 2022): “Large, profitable corporations are demanding secrecy while they negotiate for billions of public dollars that are being granted by explicit statute to them individually.”

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Listener comments!

  6:01pm
Roland from Australia:

Yay, time for TT
  6:01pm
David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtozos!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi Techworldians!
  6:02pm
Iphone 11:

The algorithm sent me.
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Handy Haversack:

Greetings, Mark and all the Techyon Drives!

Have to go get the Techgin poured, but I am very ready for some Techtonic.

Hey, ultradamno, David, Bas!
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chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonians!
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DjLorraine:

Good evening technitions
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ultradamno:

Amazon: would you like rubber bands with your plastic bags?

Hiya Handy!
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Webhamster Henry:

Jeff Bezos , yeah Jeff Bezos.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Hi Hi Hi
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ultradamno:

Amazon: May we offer you the larger size of plastic bag that accommodates even the largest human head?
  6:05pm
julian in LA:

Amazon! isn't that the super hip company that Neil Young loves?
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tim from washington:

Hi Mark and Techtonicers!
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HyperDose:

Mark associated himself with Bezos? Mark's cancelled!
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PaulRobeson1920:

Does Amazon sell the drug Alcohol?
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melinda:

hello techton chums
  6:07pm
DanFA:

Were there crypto ads? I didn't watch it this year.
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_Ike_:

I did not watch the Sportsball Bowl, but my dad texted me and said, "Worst halftime show ever, this suckssssss" and I was like, who cares? Then I found out it was all hip-hop, so of course every elderly (70+) white man in the world got angry.
  6:07pm
DanFA:

@HyperDose, hahaha
  6:07pm
queems:

the number of crypto ads was embarrassing
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Bas NL:

In our national news there is much on a new 500 million euro luxury yacht under construction here in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. Ordered by Bezos.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark. You missed the mysterious QR code ponging across the screen.
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RevErie:

🙋🏻‍♀️😃😉 DjLoraine
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MarciB:

The crypto and meta verse ads were as expected...ugh
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Bas NL:

(Ahh, you got that covered Mark...)
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PaulRobeson1920:

It’s remarkable how promoted the drug alcohol is on T.V and in Pro sports… in general…

Avoid all advertising!! 2,300 year old advice
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

I'll access my Inner Marxist and opine that if Jeff Bezos weren't Jeff Bezos, some other Jeff Bezos would be Jeff Bezos.
  6:09pm
queems:

i tried to scan that qr code but couldn’t because it was moving
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ultradamno:

The ad in a nutshell: it seems like Alexa can read our minds; lets imagine the cute ways it would be if that were happening.
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PaulRobeson1920:

SICK
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Bryant in TO:

Hey, Mark et al!
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Robbie B.:

2,300?
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cosmic matrix:

ugh--i saw that commecial too!! it was gross.
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MarciB:

hey at least we got the Salesforce ad! ;)
  6:10pm
audiocarp:

Who in their right mind watches corporate sports TV?
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PaulRobeson1920:

Relax turn off your mind float down stream…

&Robbie B @6:09 Epictetus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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cosmic matrix:

i think it was an ad on twitch.
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Handy Haversack:

I had blocked that commercial from my memory. It was horrific.
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Fuzzy:

Super Bowel Sunday.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Buy me a Beer so you can drink it with me YAY*

Alcohol is a strong drug
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_Ike_:

Do people really still care about the ads? Last time I saw them, about 5-ish years ago, they were boring and terrible. Plus aren't they all released on YouTube in advance now? That really took the wind out of their "sales" (nyuk nyuk) IMHO. It's not an event if you can watch it in advance, dummies.
  6:11pm
audiocarp:

When exactly did cryptocurrency become legitimate? I missed that moment.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Can you read my mind? What do these eyes tell you?
  6:12pm
audiocarp:

"It's all in the eyes."
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HyperDose:

Oh yeah that QR code intrigued me, then I thought it best to not scan it. Lord knows what horrors await you
  6:12pm
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The Jerusalem Report Season 2 Episode 5: The Learning Curve
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/shows/the-jerusalem-report/F8dDNqPaUL
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Bryant in TO:

"Zombie Compromise" by Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet at the end of that Bezos Taco Bell commercial.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

StuporBowel already long been a big Ad for Flyover Jet Militarism - & concussively violent male programming &tc. Why not this too...
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Robbie B.:

&PaulRobeson1920 thanks
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PaulRobeson1920:

Brilliant Mark. Just Brilliant
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

audiocarp:
For one thing, ever since they stopped shouting abroad that one of their major goals was the elimination of governments' abilities to regulate any aspect of business, now they just whisper it behind hands held coyly in front of their faces.
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chris in the redwoods:

short meeting, so i am now tuned in. hello, Mark and everyone.
  6:14pm
omg:

I use my friends Prime account to watch the videos.
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Folsom:

i know about 2-3 people who are cancelling - i'm cancelling once it is expired
  6:14pm
Erin in TO:

I'm one of the people who cancelled. I had to confirm multiple times and they made offers to get me to stop
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PaulRobeson1920:

@Robbie Epicurus** Rather… Epicurus put forth the idea that The path to Happiness is TWO FOLD- Avoid all advertising. 2- Live with your friends- eat every meal with your friends… and so on!!!! Baby
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MarciB:

Just got "Fulfilled" from my library. And it reminds me a lot of "NomadLand". Also, I never had a Prime Account so I hope that counts for something.
  6:14pm
holymother:

I cancelled as well. Bad company with bad values. Pretty straightforward in my opinion. They do what they can to want to keep you, so it’s a lot of pages. But they let me do it.
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Claire from Montclair:

2 weeks ago I deactivated my FB, IG, and Twitter accounts. Never had prime and never will.
  6:15pm
audiocarp:

How on earth does it make business sense to help your customers to off themselves? I've been boycotting Crapazon for ten years already.
  6:15pm
Erin in TO:

@Folsom they give you an option to get a refund for your remaining subscription time
  6:15pm
Roland from Australia:

You should see all the camera’s on the freeways and roads, appearing in Queensland Australia. Yes agreed, considering cancelling Prime.
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Webhamster Henry:

I have a gmail account, but it's kind of to avoid the email version of "domain sitting".
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MarciB:

@Claire cheers to that!
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tim from washington:

It makes sense that these messages were loud and clear during Super Bowl commercials. There's an eager and uncritical audience of millions that see commerce as entertainment. The superbowl highlights the worst excesses in out society.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Nice pic of Bezos. No pathological craycray in those eyes...
  6:15pm
DanFA:

If anyone is looking for an alternative to streaming music and movies/tv, I recommend Hoopla. It's available for free through library.
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

On the other hand, if you want to keep your account but not give them more money than last year, just give yourself the gift of one year of Prime status at the current price, effective of when you need to renew, before the price goes up.
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Niall:

I can't say I encountered much more resistance canceling Prime than I did canceling Netflix or Hulu.
  6:16pm
omg:

I’ve never paid for prime

I’ve rarely purchased from Amazon.

But damn I got some neat free stuff as they very nicely tied in my rewards buck from various credit cards I normally wouldn’t be bothered to even think about.

One can’t complain about that level of monetary ease of use.

The Bezos Beast.

Quite devious in it’s resourcefulness
  6:16pm
james:

Never had prime, but am encouraging others to cancel theirs to make ignoring Amazon easier
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chresti:

I cancelled, however amazon said it would be official when the subscription expired in April.
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Carmichael:

Never had any Facegram, InstaSpace or TweetBook. Never started, so easy to quit.
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Fuzzy:

I just got hooked up with Kanopy via my library card -- nice app with lots of good movies to watch..
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Webhamster Henry:

Kanopy is great! lots of documentaries and classics you missed. For some reason, they had dozens of giallos for Halloween!
  6:18pm
audiocarp:

I've heard that Kanopy is cool, but the NYC libraries don't seem to have it, anymore
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Handy Haversack:

Way to go, Claire from Montclair!
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

On the other hand, I cancelled my Amazon interviews because I realised I just wasn't that interested on the jobs on-offer-to-me, largely because I'm not good enough a coder to qualify for the better ones.
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Niall:

Smart, @Carmichael. Trying to extricate myself from Instagram; it's the closest thing to a social network I have for musicians of my ilk, but it's such a trashy platform.

I got Mubi, Kanopy, CuriosityStream, Shudder, and Criterion for fillums, BandCamp, Bleep and (meh) iTunes to buy music and bookshop.org for any new books. I'm happy out.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Alexa r “u” going “Drink” & watching the game with me??? Alexa read to me…
My thoughts while
I’m dinking watching the game, ALEXA read my mind Alexa

Drinking is slang for using the drug alcohol!
It is remarkable how promoted Alcohol is in Pro sports, considering how strong a drug alcohol is.
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HyperDose:

@Fuzzy Beware of hidden fees and subscription hikes: "On July 1, 2019, three of the largest public libraries in the United States - the New York Public Library, the Brooklyn Public Library, and the Queens Public Library - discontinued Kanopy, citing unpredictable and unsustainable costs."
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melinda:

Thriftbooks is another amazon alternative
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PaulRobeson1920:

Ok Glistening to Mark Fully now
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Blobs:

@Mark Canceled my Prime account just over a year ago, in large part thanks to this show... Can confirm the process was in fact painful. And avoiding the reach of Amazon in my online shopping experiences now, while of course worth it, is very difficult. Many online resellers just drop-ship Amazon Prime products to you by way of Ebay, Etsy, etc. at a measly premium of $1-$2. Scum.
  6:20pm
lazy pierogi:

just cancelled prime, thanks for all you do Mark
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Bryant in TO:

Adding to the Kanopy love. Not sure if it's the same with every library but you can watch unlimited Great Courses episodes through the Toronto Public. No monthly limit.
  6:21pm
audiocarp:

don't forget strandbooks.com right here in NYC
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tim from washington:

The ol' stand at the demo table bait and switch.
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hendrix wolfbat:

@hyperdose, OH NO
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Fuzzy:

@HyperDose: no fees or subscription so far; 10 credits/month to watch with. If they start trying to hit me with fees I'll drop 'em.
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ultradamno:

I wonder if the algorithm helped this guy find the roof almost a year ago www.nbcnews.com...
  6:22pm
Johntypo:

Why does RadioRethink, the app that Wfmu uses, shoot me to Amazon, when I click on the picture of the album on the radio page? Mainlining it? Is there some other cash flow reason?
Can they direct to local record stores? Or the library of congress? Or something
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joe mulligan:

you almost always can buy things online direct or from another etailer instead of Amazon. if the products are amazon-exclusive, almost every time they are sub-par drop-ship from China knock off products or snake oil nutriceuticals that you don't want anyway
  6:23pm
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Except, of course, that Bezos stole the name of the first women's/feminist bookstore in the country. The *real* Amazon bookstore was in Madison, WI. Lost its trademark suit against Bezos and shortly went out of business.
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Claire from Montclair:

I binged Waiting for Impact podcast, it was so compelling!
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Handy Haversack:

Thriftbooks makes me nervous: " ThriftBooks' business model "is based on achieving economies of scale through automation" "

Just smacks of antilabor practices, but I can't find anything recent on them. There's an article out there from 2006 that makes it sound like they do indeed want to eliminate all employees but had yet to figure out how.
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Niall:

ryant in TO: Yes, in the US, too!
  6:23pm
audiocarp:

the whole 'funnel to Amazon' that almost every media outlet uses is disgusting!
  6:24pm
DanFA:

Anyone looking to buy books online here's an alternative: https://bookshop.org/
  6:24pm
queems:

and the rest is history
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cosmic matrix:

this sounds like a bedtime story
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melinda:

@queems haha
  6:24pm
lazy pierogi:

there our hero and villains were born
  6:24pm
DanFA:

Mark: "Jeff Bezos is a nice guy" CANCELLED.
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arb:

Feels like we're getting a superhero origin story
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Handy Haversack:

When Mark is bitten by a radioactive Bezos?
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joe mulligan:

I do remember the first Bezos interview in Wired magazine decades ago portrayed him as an effusive man with a boyish laugh
  6:26pm
DanFA:

I get the impression Bezos was stalking Mark.
  6:26pm
queems:

mark hurst you could have been rich
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MarciB:

This is getting scary
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Ken From Hyde Park:

We'll soon get to the part where Mark suggests to Jeff that he should put microphones in peoples' houses.
  6:27pm
omg:

Mark missed his chance to xxxx Bezos
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cosmic matrix:

would make a great choose your own adventure
  6:27pm
Barefootin’ 🌈 Along:

Hello Every🌈One! Good show!
  6:27pm
Sam:

You made the decision to Avoid Amazon!
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Handy Haversack:

WFMU one-of-a-kind-custom-watch rich!
  6:27pm
lazy pierogi:

evil mark hurst in a parallel universe
  6:27pm
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Correction: The feminist bookstore Amazon was in Minnesota.
  6:27pm
Tom from Stirling.:

Did Bezos look like a cue ball back in '96?
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HyperDose:

I was hoping it would have blossomed into the greatest love story ever told. It is the 14th after all.
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Niall:

Would Amazon be what they are today without AWS?
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Carmichael:

Evil Mark Hurst with a goatee.
  6:28pm
hoohoo:

You missed your chance to be a union buster
  6:28pm
omg:

Mark could’ve killed Hitler

How many of us have to live w his regrets
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Webhamster Henry:

AWS was internal to Amazon, they very cleverly decided to platformize it, it was a brilliant idea.
  6:29pm
Sam:

Oh please Mark, you would have been the first whistleblower
  6:29pm
Quinn02:

I’m glad you chose this path
  6:29pm
Barefootin’ 🌈 Along:

There's laughing in her eyes, dancing in her feet🌈

Come and join the party every🌈 day! @WFMU! Peace&Love
  6:29pm
carrots:

ok ok… take it easy.. you blew it, dont try to justify it…
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HyperDose:

This is the Darkest Timeline
  6:29pm
carrots:

😀
  6:29pm
omg:

My cancer doc always makes a point of reminding me that me him and bezos are the same age

I never wanted to know
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Carmichael:

Mark can call him "Jeff" ... :)
  6:30pm
Tom from Stirling.:

This is a good story. Mark can spin a yarn quite well.
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Niall:

Webhamster Henry: Sure, and while I haven't looked at their numbers, it has to be a significant earner for the company.
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Bas NL:

You could have turned Amazon into a charity Mark.
  6:30pm
Sam:

Was he the Taco Bell dog?
  6:30pm
audiocarp:

HyperDose, why did you doctor include Bezos?
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dale:

'yo quiero your money.'
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(Murakami Whywolf))):

Careful: Pro-Amazon shills would turn this into 'Mark Hurst just resents that he missed his chance.'. Please note: that is not what I believe, but it's a common tactic to demean people's thoughtful arguments as instead just having a personal grievance.
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cosmic matrix:

lol yes
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tim from washington:

oooh, can Prime delivery me a Seven Layer Burrito?
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Niall:

That said, the usage of "journey" over the last few years pretty much makes me want to shut down any conversation I'm in, nowadays.
  6:32pm
matt:

he's looking like jim davis with that bit of hair

was that lady cumming from eating that nummy slop
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Ken From Hyde Park:

If Mark had joined Amazon, we would surely now be enjoying tacos delivered via drones.
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Handy Haversack:

Oh, tim. That timeline is hard to reach.
  6:32pm
matt:

aw geez
  6:32pm
audiocarp:

If we get into junk English, we'll be here all night.
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Niall:

audiocarp: Ha!
  6:33pm
audiocarp:

In that photo, Bezos looks like a middle-aged Peter Lorre.
  6:33pm
Tom from Stirling.:

Bezos looked like a dork back in the 90s.
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tim from washington:

@Handy - you mean there's something that Big Tech CAN'T do?
  6:33pm
omg:

Carmichael 6:28

Perfect
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ultradamno:

@Ken HANDHELD CHICKEN QUESSADILLAS...he's not a monster!
  6:34pm
Sam:

It makes perfect sense. Taco Bell is to gastronomy what Amazon is to civilization.
  6:34pm
choggie:

Wonder if there's a Taco Bell on that hooker-yacht he's destroying the bridge for....
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Bryant in TO:

Still waiting on Taco Bell "green" menu that The Onion showcased about a decade ago. No ingredients taken from nature and I think there was a chalupa that filtered out air pollution.
  6:34pm
matt:

all sorts of snakes know how to charm you
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MarciB:

I recall the early Bezos - kind of schlubby...then once day I saw a photo of him looking like Dr Evil. But in shape. It had to be the money - I've seen it so many times.
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Megaroni:

Was at Bryant Park on Saturday and them posting “prime” at the entrance to the ice skating lodge is just obscene
  6:34pm
omg:

True dat

Money is the root of all dickheads I’ve known.
  6:34pm
choggie:

All of Taco Bell's products are made from the same seven ingredients.....
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chris in the redwoods:

schmo to richest guy in the world *has* to change a guy.
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ultradamno:

In fairness to Bezos, they still had Mexican Pizzas back then.
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PaulRobeson1920:

@OMG @6:28 (probably a nameless trool) that is absurd. The Moral High Ground is peaceful & just and has always been! MARK IS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS.

Mark is telling the truth!
A more apt comparison to Nazism is having an authority tell you white is black and expecting you to believe it!

Any suggestion to violence is absurd
  6:35pm
omg:

Visions of godhood

Etc etc
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dale:

i used to look fit and like dr. evil. then i lost my money and now i look schlubby.
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Bryant in TO:

Might've been Fast Food Nation where a Taco Bell worker said the key to their menu was "just add water." Might be wrong but that just feels right
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Rich in Washington:

LOL, dale!
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PaulRobeson1920:

The Mansion is warm on the top of the hill…
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Roland from Australia:

Great story ! Makes me think, I started buying books from Amazon in 1995, they surprised me by how quickly the book arrived in the Uk I later learned they had a base in the UK - the book was Unix Power Tools. Late 90’s early 2000’s I considering (desired) working at Amazon. Even then I had sense that the were on to something. - it’s a crazy world
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I'm not sure it's the money per se. More like the machinations one has to engage in--the politics, the flattery, the backroom deals, the violations of law--in order to sustain the acceleration of wealth.
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(((Murakami Whywolf):

I don't object to some guy's being fabulously rich because I want every single human being to be fabulously rich.
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DanFA:

Baron Harkonen Bezos
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tim from washington:

I told my shop steward at work the Bezos union joke that was on Techtonic last week. It was a big hit.
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choggie:

All of Jeff bezos girlfriends look like Pilates addicts
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Listener Robert:

I do remember another TV commercial they had either slightly earlier or later. A snooty-but-trendy sounding guy, presented with the food said, "Ah, the new hand-held from Taco Bell. But does it come with any games?" And the guy presenting it says, "Oh, yeah." And it came with a scratch-off prize ticket.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Thats CRAZY!!! Move pollution to space???!!

The future is CRADLE TO CRADLE! Designing products with future lifecycles in mind….
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Bas NL:

Why not just have chimneys into space?
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audiocarp:

Is the Netherlands where yacht rock comes from?
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chris in the redwoods:

you're a true innovator, Bas.
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MarciB:

The Dutch plan on egging the yacht I think is what I read
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Franco Twinkie:

Sounds like Jeff took a trip....and never came back.
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dale:

rich - you get beat up after awhile.
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HyperDose:

My favorite Bezos meme: img.ifunny.co...
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cosmic matrix:

i wonder if he's had plastic surgery. he looks so friggin' different!
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omg:

Listen

Jeff knows that any woman that shows him the least interest is only interested in the financial gain he represents

All pollution industries into space.

Hence the Elon Musk satellite custerfrack

Near earth orbit precursor of the pacific plastic garbage gyre
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choggie:

They don't shoot pollution into space, because it might come back down if the rocket can't get out of atmosphere.....
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Webhamster Henry:

Amazon is the power house of the automotive industry. www.caranddriver.com...
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audiocarp:

I hope they use century eggs
  6:40pm
Lepton:

You don't need prime for free shipping
Minimize impulsive Amazon purchases
Just make purchases totaling $29 min free shipping qualifier. Easy as pi
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tim from washington:

I trust the Dutch know what to do here. They invented sabotage.
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MarciB:

@Cosmic - you bet he did!
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Bas NL:

Well done Mark!
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dale:

that was a jerry lewis movie - 'don't raise the bridge - lower the river.'
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yippie:

rotterdam needs more coffeeshops
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morphe':

Yacht called = Y721??? meaning... Yer Nederlands was decent ..
I am thinking they will now move the yacht out and put the masts on later???
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Fredericks:

Waste in Space. Remember "dilution is the solution for pollution?"
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audiocarp:

Lepton, the goal is to avoid using Amazon completely
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Sam:

Ei Ei, Captain!
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Rich in Washington:

where does one get rotten eggs these days? Is there a store?
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cosmic matrix:

@marciB, can't do they do anything about his eyes i wonder? maybe he likes them that way
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Handy Haversack:

You can get rotten eggs in the Netherlands?
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Webhamster Henry:

Too bad it's not Norway, they could throw lutefisk.
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melinda:

@Rich they'll have to settle for fresh, I guess
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Sam:

I looked out the window, seen his bald head
Ran to the fridge and pulled out an egg
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MarciB:

I will be cheering these good folks on!
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MyAcademy:

Mark, don't forget about Bezos throwing $42m at hollowing out a mountain to build a... clock. authentictexan.com...
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PaulRobeson1920:

The Future… we will as a people, all of humanity, be more like the Cherry Tree!!!


www.abebooks.com...

Cradle to Cradle: Remaking the Way We Make things
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audiocarp:

It would be easier to remove the yacht superstructure, wouldn't it?
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Tom from Stirling.:

Why not just throw the eggs from the bridge?
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Rich in Washington:

I've overbought eggs and went on trips leaving eggs in the fridge and never had them go bad. How long must one store eggs to make them bad.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Move Somthing that won’t exist to space? is Crazy!
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omg:

Robeson 6:35

Relax chronic
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Fishtown Mike:

Unfortunately, the yacht's crew will bear the brunt of that demonstration. Bezos will be neither aboard during, nor swabbing the decks afterwards.
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Fox:

The bridge will be dismantled.
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Rich in Washington:

throw a refrigerator at Bezos' yacht. That would be impressive, but could be done.
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audiocarp:

Rich, leave them out of the fridge!
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choggie:

Amazon protest: Return items in Amazon boxes full of stuff that didn't come from Amazon....
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Dayfid:

Ordering a sling shot and rotten eggs from amazon right now.
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tim from washington:

Can you buy rotten eggs from Prime?
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Wenzo Toad:

you’re not advocating pelting JB’s yacht with rotten eggs? wtf mark. We should all give $5 to crowd fund a fleet of trebuchets
  6:43pm
audiocarp:

that's a good one, Choggie
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Bryant in TO:

@tim Good point. They should swap the eggs for clogs
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Tom from Stirling.:

Have some Amazon drones drop eggs on the yacht.
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Bas NL:

I'm sure Bezos bought every stinking rotten egg around.
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HyperDose:

You can drop a large payload of expired foodstuffs from a sturdy drone...
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DjLorraine:

Dismantling a bridge?....in war they used to destroy bridges. Now they just ask if you'd do it for them.
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PJ:

@PaulRobeson1920: Abe Books is owned by Amazon . . .
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MyAcademy:

@PaulRobeson1920, Cradle to Cradle is a dope book, but Amazon purchased Abe in 08.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Hi Jeff B! & All! Warm Greetings!

Come to Know Paul through his own mind, pen and music…

The Greatest Male singer in recorded history!
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choggie:

Whoa. Drones dropping eggs....
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Rich in Washington:

Excellent observation DJLorraine!
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hendrix wolfbat:

@choggie, like the comment about how egging the yacht would only affect the crew , not lord Bezos, so too the returning of non amazon goods to the warehouse would only annoy and frustrate Amazon workers
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PaulRobeson1920:

@MyAcademy! @6:44 Wow did not know that!
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choggie:

POTATO CANNONSS!!
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WR:

Transformative "tech" or business "paradigm change" is the willingness to do what ever it takes achieve dominance. The corporate leadership which embraces the "whatever it takes" approach inevitably lose any perspective toward the greater good.
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LCBD:

Bezos is such a gross person!
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chresti:

Nacho cheese canons!
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Handy Haversack:

Yeah, the loss of Abe Book sucked. Finding used/rare/import books online without using monster services has grown difficult.
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Jeff Moore:

One of the flavors of regulatory capture.
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choggie:

Mail stuff straight to one of Bezos' gajillion dollar residences....
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HyperDose:

And you do have access to a large amount of tennis balls, chresti!
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omg:

Y’all really gotta get over the fact this is a public board

I know it’s your private knitting circle mostly for the chronics that hate anyone who they can’t identify and immediately label troll.

Anonymous ain’t gonna hurt you.

Ever actúa listen to what mark is saying?
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Ken From Hyde Park:

I've seen some Amazon TV ad recently, claiming they offer entry-level jobs at $15+ an hour. They showed a worker scanning packages and putting them onto trays on a conveyor belt. Of course, they left out all the bad stuff.
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hendrix wolfbat:

@LCBD word, his riches could solve so many problems in the USA and probably elsewhere
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Bas NL:

By the by, the bridge has been removed for other ships to get through in the past...
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dale:

so much of my retirement account is invested in amazon and google and meta. what's a future retiree to do?
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Sam:

Apple? Didn’t they go out of business back in the 80’s?
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dale:

...it wasn't when i invested in it so don't blame me.
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cosmic matrix:

omg it's not just potentially plastic surgery..it's bio-hacking perhaps...stem cells..hormones...
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choggie:

....old books, broken plastic crap made in China, hairbrush hair, cheese balls for packing peanuts, etc.
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hendrix wolfbat:

@Bas NL good to know it is not just Bezos who is a self important turd
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omg:

No IP address is anonymous in the long run.
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LCBD:

You know it @hendrix wolfbat! Shocking to me that his ego wouldn't enjoy that more than all this self-indulgent b.s.
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Webhamster Henry:

Well, the rich are just not rich enough. Is there way we we can forgive them more taxes?
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JR:

Mark, would you mind doing an interview with Jeff Bezos today?
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PaulRobeson1920:

The Power of the Nation State is eclipsed by the power of corporations… C Wright. Mills has Somthing to say about this…
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DanFA:

Other customers who wanted to kill themselves used this
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hendrix wolfbat:

LCBD as was said before , he has changed, that kind of money goes to their heads not their hearts
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lazy pierogi:

OY
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LCBD:

Oh my god, I am speechless
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Franco Twinkie:

What is the product? Just in case.
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hendrix wolfbat:

how the super rich do not live among the rest of us. they literally don't
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PaulRobeson1920:

It becomes a game. What can you really do with anything over 50 Million Dollars? R we not brothers? Or r we playing a selfish game?
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Very simply - it's Late Stage Capitalism. This Society rewards financial Predators. We've even had a President of the United States - a so-called 'Leader of the Free World' no less - who was no more than a trust fund NYC Real Estate con artist & criminal. That's how much the Predators are Rewarded. Social Inequity & even the Destruction of the Natural Planet (that's not hyperbole: that's the 6th Mass Extinction in the Natural History of the Earth - & already catastrophic Climate Change - both signatures of the Anthropocene, meaning inarguably Caused by Homo Sapiens) notwithstanding - as well as the Technical Engineering of our own subjugation, loss of individuality - even obsolescence - continues apace...
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Rolando:

It's a bit like governments bailing out businesses and banks who are not doing very well or who have done faulty deals. - it's wrong !! Also governments pay or at least give Tax Relief to broadcasters and newspapers. it's wrong. Also, our leaders meet with these guys and plan how to manage the electorate. - Crazy
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Handy Haversack:

@omg: I don't think you're a troll.
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G:

Jeff Bezoar
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Bas NL:

An analysis in my newspaper found there are very little things to buy that are really expensive.
  6:51pm
DanFA:

Mark, you should consider having Kashmir Hill, tech journalist, on the show.
  6:51pm
Listener Robert:

But your family and friends don't own your life.
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Fuzzy:

Egg it in every port it visits! Rotten veggies, paintballs, etc...be creative!
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Webhamster Henry:

I'd like to have some old Techtonic guests back to see what they are up to.
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PaulRobeson1920:

“Build the road (Bridge) of peace before you, Build it wide and deep and long! Speed the slow and check the eager, help the weak and curb the strong…” - Paul Robeson
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mmdd:

I just cancelled my membership, I had been meaning to do it for a while. It was easy, and took less than 5 minutes. Thanks Mark for all you do!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Stuff a banana in the yacht's tailpipe!
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Fuzzy:

lol
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Tom from Stirling.:

Mark's getting worked -up again. Oh boy.
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PaulRobeson1920:

Amusing Ourselves to Death!
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Megaroni:

Yet people keep buying from this horrible cancer of a business- how do we reach the masses when corporate media dominates?
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Handy Haversack:

Every phase of capitalism has its major horrid sector that dominates the evil effects on the planet and humanity, it seems, and this one is one of the worst.

I know this much: we can't solve it through more capitalism.
  6:54pm
But beyond the clickbait:

That bridge that will be temporarily moved so his Uber yacht can pass

It was rebuilt before.

It can be modified and made whole.

He’s offered to pay.

Personally we need to act locally and fix the problems here first prior to putting the oligarchs in their place.

I recommend guillotines
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drowsy:

A friend was buying props from Amazon for a local The Sound of Music musical production. Boy Howdy her recommendations got Hitler-adjascent real quick... Made it hard to shop at work!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Perhaps it's a form of Diabetes of Human Psychological Values : just as we evolved to get as much sugar, fat & salt as possible - the power of Wealth simply overwhelms the Human Mental Organism...
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chris in the redwoods:

totally agree, Mark.
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dale:

what happened to buffet? i thought he was the biggest charitable giver...
  6:56pm
But beyond the clickbait:

In USA, SCOTUS sold us down the river re money.

Guillotines.
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hendrix wolfbat:

his GF of the moment doesn't look like he will giving any shits about helping others
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Henry Ford, Father of Industrialism as we know it, was majorly Nazi inclined & involved. This is profound.
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Blobs:

Nice episode, Mark - I appreciate what you do.
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David in London:

Classic Hurst.
Thanks Mark.
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ultradamno:

He kind of looks like Kevin Spacey in that screenshot
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LCBD:

Thanks Mark! Bye everyone!
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Handy Haversack:

Great service to your listeners and your world once more tonight, Mark. Many many thanks!
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chresti:

Thanks Mark!
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drowsy:

RRNov63 - checkout The Empire Never Ended podcast for that on Ford and more!
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Fuzzy:

Thank you Mark!
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Sam:

I hate this billionaire charity stuff. The government should be taking these people’s money and using it to solve problems, instead of them picking and choosing what they want to give to and being called a fucking hero for it.
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StringOFperils:

Thank you, Mark!
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Firebottle:

Yeah, but is there a list of what organizations this ex gal gave her billions to? I think it would shock people.
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lazy pierogi:

bARBeque jeff
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PaulRobeson1920:

The top income earners tend to buy Luxury goods rather than give back to the public good. Not all, but most… Keynesianism worked and can work again…

We are all aboard the same train! To the East… where the 4 winds blow…
Yeah! Good Job Mackenzie Scott!
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Bas NL:

Melinda Gates turned Bill to philanthropy..

Thanks Mark! Do give Jeff a heads-up on the coming WFMU Marathon! :)
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Rolando:

Really nice show Mark. - Thanks
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Fuzzy:

@Sam: ding ding ding!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Mark. Did you ever happen to bump into the guy who started fogdog.com? Whatever became of him?
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PaulRobeson1920:

THANKS MARK! Peace& Love Ya’ll! Always! and farewell without end
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chris in the redwoods:

Sam, the largest part of our tax money goes to the war machine. lets change that first, shall we?
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tim from washington:

Thanks, Mark! Nice direction for tonight's show.
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone, for joining this evening. Looking forward to reading through the comments.
  6:59pm
Sam:

Fair enough Chris
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Well of course if the UltraRich were Taxed proportionately @ (imagine!) the same rate as You & Me - all the conditions their 'charity' is aimed @ would barely exist (if @ all). You & I can barely comprehend their Wealth - the difference between million & billion. It's PR, no more or less.
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Wenzo Toad:

thanks Mark, first time Ive listened ina while... really good show! missed the begining, will check out the archive later for sure
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Mark Hurst:

@Wenzo Toad thanks & welcome back
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Webhamster Henry:

@RRNov63 et all: here's my little post on innumeracy: airoutslowly.blogspot.com...
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