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Options February 14, 2022: The time I met Jeff Bezos: reflecting on how success changed Amazon & Bezos

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Today: The time I met Jeff Bezos: reflecting on how success changed Amazon and Bezos


How Hard Would It Be to Hit Jeff Bezos’s Superyacht With a Rotten Egg? (by Clio Chang, Curbed, Feb 8, 2022): “A group of residents in Rotterdam has put out a call to throw rotten eggs at Jeff Bezos’s superyacht when it passes through the city’s river in June. The event, succinctly titled ‘Throwing eggs at superyacht Jeff Bezos,’ is a response to reports that the city is considering a plan to dismantle the historic Koningshaven Bridge to allow Bezos’s $500 million, and apparently very tall, new superyacht to take to the sea.”

MacKenzie Scott (Wikipedia entry): “As of November 2021, she has a net worth of US$62.2 billion, owing to a 4% stake in Amazon. ... Scott made US$5.8 billion in charitable gifts in 2020, one of the largest annual distributions by a private individual to working charities. She donated a further $2.7 billion in 2021.”

Reposting from last week’s show...

Amazon Breaks Record for One-Day Gain in Market Cap (WSJ, Feb 5, 2022): "Shares surged 14% Friday, their biggest one-day jump in almost seven years. The added $191 billion to Amazon’s market value, eclipsing the record Apple set just last week when it added $181 billion after posting quarterly results that shattered previous records."

Lawmakers Press Amazon on Sales of Chemical Used in Suicides (NYT, Feb 4, 2022). As Vice's Maxwell Strachan put it:

• Bezos has come a long way since his Taco Bell commercial (yes, really) in 2001.

The true cost of Amazon’s low prices (by Sara Morrison, Vox, Jan 13, 2022): “Sarah Miller, executive director of the American Economic Liberties Project, an anti-monopoly advocacy group, [says]: ‘Amazon leverages its power in one space to take over a new space, which is core to their business practice. They have the ability to combine the competitive advantages of different aspects of their business to take over new sectors of the economy.’”

Amazon vs. N.Y.’s small businesses: The little guys need a 21st century antitrust act (Natasha Amott op-ed in N.Y. Daily News, Jan 31, 2022): “When monopolies like Amazon are allowed to dominate single marketplaces so fully, small businesses see the effect in what they can afford to pay their staff; in what rents they can afford to pay to property owners; and in how they fight to stay a part of the American middle class.”


• From Insider (Feb 9, 2022): “Amazon has expanded its new medical service to Boston, Dallas, Austin, and Los Angeles. Called Amazon Care, the venture provides primary care through an app to self-insured companies or those that pay for their employees’ medical expenses — and it’s already signed up big employers Whole Foods and Hilton.”

Pat Garofalo (Feb 9, 2022): “Large, profitable corporations are demanding secrecy while they negotiate for billions of public dollars that are being granted by explicit statute to them individually.”

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Listener comments!

  6:01pm Roland from Australia:

Yay, time for TT
  6:01pm David in London:

Evening Mark and all Technoids.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:01pm ultradamno:

Mark! Techtozos!
Avatar 🤖 6:02pm Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi Techworldians!
  6:02pm Iphone 11:

The algorithm sent me.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:02pm Handy Haversack:

Greetings, Mark and all the Techyon Drives!

Have to go get the Techgin poured, but I am very ready for some Techtonic.

Hey, ultradamno, David, Bas!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm chresti:

Hi Mark and techtonians!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm DjLorraine:

Good evening technitions
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:03pm ultradamno:

Amazon: would you like rubber bands with your plastic bags?

Hiya Handy!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:03pm Webhamster Henry:

Jeff Bezos , yeah Jeff Bezos.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:04pm PaulRobeson1920:

Hi Hi Hi
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:04pm ultradamno:

Amazon: May we offer you the larger size of plastic bag that accommodates even the largest human head?
  6:05pm julian in LA:

Amazon! isn't that the super hip company that Neil Young loves?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm tim from washington:

Hi Mark and Techtonicers!
Avatar 6:05pm HyperDose:

Mark associated himself with Bezos? Mark's cancelled!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm PaulRobeson1920:

Does Amazon sell the drug Alcohol?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm melinda:

hello techton chums
  6:07pm DanFA:

Were there crypto ads? I didn't watch it this year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:07pm _Ike_:

I did not watch the Sportsball Bowl, but my dad texted me and said, "Worst halftime show ever, this suckssssss" and I was like, who cares? Then I found out it was all hip-hop, so of course every elderly (70+) white man in the world got angry.
  6:07pm DanFA:

@HyperDose, hahaha
  6:07pm queems:

the number of crypto ads was embarrassing
Avatar 🤖 6:08pm Bas NL:

In our national news there is much on a new 500 million euro luxury yacht under construction here in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. Ordered by Bezos.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Hi, Mark. You missed the mysterious QR code ponging across the screen.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm RevErie:

🙋🏻‍♀️😃😉 DjLoraine
Avatar 🤖 6:08pm MarciB:

The crypto and meta verse ads were as expected...ugh
Avatar 🤖 6:08pm Bas NL:

(Ahh, you got that covered Mark...)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:08pm PaulRobeson1920:

It’s remarkable how promoted the drug alcohol is on T.V and in Pro sports… in general…

Avoid all advertising!! 2,300 year old advice
Avatar 6:09pm (Murakami Whywolf))):

I'll access my Inner Marxist and opine that if Jeff Bezos weren't Jeff Bezos, some other Jeff Bezos would be Jeff Bezos.
  6:09pm queems:

i tried to scan that qr code but couldn’t because it was moving
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:09pm ultradamno:

The ad in a nutshell: it seems like Alexa can read our minds; lets imagine the cute ways it would be if that were happening.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm PaulRobeson1920:

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm Bryant in TO:

Hey, Mark et al!
Avatar 6:09pm Robbie B.:

Avatar 6:09pm cosmic matrix:

ugh--i saw that commecial too!! it was gross.
Avatar 🤖 6:10pm MarciB:

hey at least we got the Salesforce ad! ;)
  6:10pm audiocarp:

Who in their right mind watches corporate sports TV?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm PaulRobeson1920:

Relax turn off your mind float down stream…

&Robbie B @6:09 Epictetus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Avatar 6:10pm cosmic matrix:

i think it was an ad on twitch.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm Handy Haversack:

I had blocked that commercial from my memory. It was horrific.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm Fuzzy:

Super Bowel Sunday.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:10pm PaulRobeson1920:

Buy me a Beer so you can drink it with me YAY*

Alcohol is a strong drug
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:10pm _Ike_:

Do people really still care about the ads? Last time I saw them, about 5-ish years ago, they were boring and terrible. Plus aren't they all released on YouTube in advance now? That really took the wind out of their "sales" (nyuk nyuk) IMHO. It's not an event if you can watch it in advance, dummies.
  6:11pm audiocarp:

When exactly did cryptocurrency become legitimate? I missed that moment.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm PaulRobeson1920:

Can you read my mind? What do these eyes tell you?
  6:12pm audiocarp:

"It's all in the eyes."
Avatar 6:12pm HyperDose:

Oh yeah that QR code intrigued me, then I thought it best to not scan it. Lord knows what horrors await you
  6:12pm ?:

The Jerusalem Report Season 2 Episode 5: The Learning Curve
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm Bryant in TO:

"Zombie Compromise" by Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet at the end of that Bezos Taco Bell commercial.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

StuporBowel already long been a big Ad for Flyover Jet Militarism - & concussively violent male programming &tc. Why not this too...
Avatar 6:12pm Robbie B.:

&PaulRobeson1920 thanks
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:12pm PaulRobeson1920:

Brilliant Mark. Just Brilliant
Avatar 6:13pm (((Murakami Whywolf):

For one thing, ever since they stopped shouting abroad that one of their major goals was the elimination of governments' abilities to regulate any aspect of business, now they just whisper it behind hands held coyly in front of their faces.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:13pm chris in the redwoods:

short meeting, so i am now tuned in. hello, Mark and everyone.
  6:14pm omg:

I use my friends Prime account to watch the videos.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm Folsom:

i know about 2-3 people who are cancelling - i'm cancelling once it is expired
  6:14pm Erin in TO:

I'm one of the people who cancelled. I had to confirm multiple times and they made offers to get me to stop
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm PaulRobeson1920:

@Robbie Epicurus** Rather… Epicurus put forth the idea that The path to Happiness is TWO FOLD- Avoid all advertising. 2- Live with your friends- eat every meal with your friends… and so on!!!! Baby
Avatar 🤖 6:14pm MarciB:

Just got "Fulfilled" from my library. And it reminds me a lot of "NomadLand". Also, I never had a Prime Account so I hope that counts for something.
  6:14pm holymother:

I cancelled as well. Bad company with bad values. Pretty straightforward in my opinion. They do what they can to want to keep you, so it’s a lot of pages. But they let me do it.
Avatar 6:14pm Claire from Montclair:

2 weeks ago I deactivated my FB, IG, and Twitter accounts. Never had prime and never will.
  6:15pm audiocarp:

How on earth does it make business sense to help your customers to off themselves? I've been boycotting Crapazon for ten years already.
  6:15pm Erin in TO:

@Folsom they give you an option to get a refund for your remaining subscription time
  6:15pm Roland from Australia:

You should see all the camera’s on the freeways and roads, appearing in Queensland Australia. Yes agreed, considering cancelling Prime.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm Webhamster Henry:

I have a gmail account, but it's kind of to avoid the email version of "domain sitting".
Avatar 🤖 6:15pm MarciB:

@Claire cheers to that!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:15pm tim from washington:

It makes sense that these messages were loud and clear during Super Bowl commercials. There's an eager and uncritical audience of millions that see commerce as entertainment. The superbowl highlights the worst excesses in out society.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Nice pic of Bezos. No pathological craycray in those eyes...
  6:15pm DanFA:

If anyone is looking for an alternative to streaming music and movies/tv, I recommend Hoopla. It's available for free through library.
Avatar 6:16pm (Murakami Whywolf))):

On the other hand, if you want to keep your account but not give them more money than last year, just give yourself the gift of one year of Prime status at the current price, effective of when you need to renew, before the price goes up.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm Niall:

I can't say I encountered much more resistance canceling Prime than I did canceling Netflix or Hulu.
  6:16pm omg:

I’ve never paid for prime

I’ve rarely purchased from Amazon.

But damn I got some neat free stuff as they very nicely tied in my rewards buck from various credit cards I normally wouldn’t be bothered to even think about.

One can’t complain about that level of monetary ease of use.

The Bezos Beast.

Quite devious in it’s resourcefulness
  6:16pm james:

Never had prime, but am encouraging others to cancel theirs to make ignoring Amazon easier
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm chresti:

I cancelled, however amazon said it would be official when the subscription expired in April.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm Carmichael:

Never had any Facegram, InstaSpace or TweetBook. Never started, so easy to quit.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:17pm Fuzzy:

I just got hooked up with Kanopy via my library card -- nice app with lots of good movies to watch..
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:18pm Webhamster Henry:

Kanopy is great! lots of documentaries and classics you missed. For some reason, they had dozens of giallos for Halloween!
  6:18pm audiocarp:

I've heard that Kanopy is cool, but the NYC libraries don't seem to have it, anymore
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm Handy Haversack:

Way to go, Claire from Montclair!
Avatar 6:19pm (((Murakami Whywolf):

On the other hand, I cancelled my Amazon interviews because I realised I just wasn't that interested on the jobs on-offer-to-me, largely because I'm not good enough a coder to qualify for the better ones.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm Niall:

Smart, @Carmichael. Trying to extricate myself from Instagram; it's the closest thing to a social network I have for musicians of my ilk, but it's such a trashy platform.

I got Mubi, Kanopy, CuriosityStream, Shudder, and Criterion for fillums, BandCamp, Bleep and (meh) iTunes to buy music and bookshop.org for any new books. I'm happy out.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:19pm PaulRobeson1920:

Alexa r “u” going “Drink” & watching the game with me??? Alexa read to me…
My thoughts while
I’m dinking watching the game, ALEXA read my mind Alexa

Drinking is slang for using the drug alcohol!
It is remarkable how promoted Alcohol is in Pro sports, considering how strong a drug alcohol is.
Avatar 6:19pm HyperDose:

@Fuzzy Beware of hidden fees and subscription hikes: "On July 1, 2019, three of the largest public libraries in the United States - the New York Public Library, the Brooklyn Public Library, and the Queens Public Library - discontinued Kanopy, citing unpredictable and unsustainable costs."
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm melinda:

Thriftbooks is another amazon alternative
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm PaulRobeson1920:

Ok Glistening to Mark Fully now
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Blobs:

@Mark Canceled my Prime account just over a year ago, in large part thanks to this show... Can confirm the process was in fact painful. And avoiding the reach of Amazon in my online shopping experiences now, while of course worth it, is very difficult. Many online resellers just drop-ship Amazon Prime products to you by way of Ebay, Etsy, etc. at a measly premium of $1-$2. Scum.
  6:20pm lazy pierogi:

just cancelled prime, thanks for all you do Mark
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm Bryant in TO:

Adding to the Kanopy love. Not sure if it's the same with every library but you can watch unlimited Great Courses episodes through the Toronto Public. No monthly limit.
  6:21pm audiocarp:

don't forget strandbooks.com right here in NYC
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm tim from washington:

The ol' stand at the demo table bait and switch.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm hendrix wolfbat:

@hyperdose, OH NO
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:21pm Fuzzy:

@HyperDose: no fees or subscription so far; 10 credits/month to watch with. If they start trying to hit me with fees I'll drop 'em.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:22pm ultradamno:

I wonder if the algorithm helped this guy find the roof almost a year ago www.nbcnews.com...
  6:22pm Johntypo:

Why does RadioRethink, the app that Wfmu uses, shoot me to Amazon, when I click on the picture of the album on the radio page? Mainlining it? Is there some other cash flow reason?
Can they direct to local record stores? Or the library of congress? Or something
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm joe mulligan:

you almost always can buy things online direct or from another etailer instead of Amazon. if the products are amazon-exclusive, almost every time they are sub-par drop-ship from China knock off products or snake oil nutriceuticals that you don't want anyway
  6:23pm ?:

Except, of course, that Bezos stole the name of the first women's/feminist bookstore in the country. The *real* Amazon bookstore was in Madison, WI. Lost its trademark suit against Bezos and shortly went out of business.
Avatar 6:23pm Claire from Montclair:

I binged Waiting for Impact podcast, it was so compelling!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:23pm Handy Haversack:

Thriftbooks makes me nervous: " ThriftBooks' business model "is based on achieving economies of scale through automation" "

Just smacks of antilabor practices, but I can't find anything recent on them. There's an article out there from 2006 that makes it sound like they do indeed want to eliminate all employees but had yet to figure out how.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:23pm Niall:

ryant in TO: Yes, in the US, too!
  6:23pm audiocarp:

the whole 'funnel to Amazon' that almost every media outlet uses is disgusting!
  6:24pm DanFA:

Anyone looking to buy books online here's an alternative: https://bookshop.org/
  6:24pm queems:

and the rest is history
Avatar 6:24pm cosmic matrix:

this sounds like a bedtime story
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:24pm melinda:

@queems haha
  6:24pm lazy pierogi:

there our hero and villains were born
  6:24pm DanFA:

Mark: "Jeff Bezos is a nice guy" CANCELLED.
Avatar 6:25pm arb:

Feels like we're getting a superhero origin story
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:25pm Handy Haversack:

When Mark is bitten by a radioactive Bezos?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm joe mulligan:

I do remember the first Bezos interview in Wired magazine decades ago portrayed him as an effusive man with a boyish laugh
  6:26pm DanFA:

I get the impression Bezos was stalking Mark.
  6:26pm queems:

mark hurst you could have been rich
Avatar 🤖 6:26pm MarciB:

This is getting scary
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:26pm Ken From Hyde Park:

We'll soon get to the part where Mark suggests to Jeff that he should put microphones in peoples' houses.
  6:27pm omg:

Mark missed his chance to xxxx Bezos
Avatar 6:27pm cosmic matrix:

would make a great choose your own adventure
  6:27pm Barefootin’ 🌈 Along:

Hello Every🌈One! Good show!
  6:27pm Sam:

You made the decision to Avoid Amazon!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:27pm Handy Haversack:

WFMU one-of-a-kind-custom-watch rich!
  6:27pm lazy pierogi:

evil mark hurst in a parallel universe
  6:27pm ?:

Correction: The feminist bookstore Amazon was in Minnesota.
  6:27pm Tom from Stirling.:

Did Bezos look like a cue ball back in '96?
Avatar 6:27pm HyperDose:

I was hoping it would have blossomed into the greatest love story ever told. It is the 14th after all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm Niall:

Would Amazon be what they are today without AWS?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:28pm Carmichael:

Evil Mark Hurst with a goatee.
  6:28pm hoohoo:

You missed your chance to be a union buster
  6:28pm omg:

Mark could’ve killed Hitler

How many of us have to live w his regrets
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:29pm Webhamster Henry:

AWS was internal to Amazon, they very cleverly decided to platformize it, it was a brilliant idea.
  6:29pm Sam:

Oh please Mark, you would have been the first whistleblower
  6:29pm Quinn02:

I’m glad you chose this path
  6:29pm Barefootin’ 🌈 Along:

There's laughing in her eyes, dancing in her feet🌈

Come and join the party every🌈 day! @WFMU! Peace&Love
  6:29pm carrots:

ok ok… take it easy.. you blew it, dont try to justify it…
Avatar 6:29pm HyperDose:

This is the Darkest Timeline
  6:29pm carrots:

  6:29pm omg:

My cancer doc always makes a point of reminding me that me him and bezos are the same age

I never wanted to know
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:29pm Carmichael:

Mark can call him "Jeff" ... :)
  6:30pm Tom from Stirling.:

This is a good story. Mark can spin a yarn quite well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:30pm Niall:

Webhamster Henry: Sure, and while I haven't looked at their numbers, it has to be a significant earner for the company.
Avatar 🤖 6:30pm Bas NL:

You could have turned Amazon into a charity Mark.
  6:30pm Sam:

Was he the Taco Bell dog?
  6:30pm audiocarp:

HyperDose, why did you doctor include Bezos?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm dale:

'yo quiero your money.'
Avatar 6:31pm (Murakami Whywolf))):

Careful: Pro-Amazon shills would turn this into 'Mark Hurst just resents that he missed his chance.'. Please note: that is not what I believe, but it's a common tactic to demean people's thoughtful arguments as instead just having a personal grievance.
Avatar 6:31pm cosmic matrix:

lol yes
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:31pm tim from washington:

oooh, can Prime delivery me a Seven Layer Burrito?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm Niall:

That said, the usage of "journey" over the last few years pretty much makes me want to shut down any conversation I'm in, nowadays.
  6:32pm matt:

he's looking like jim davis with that bit of hair

was that lady cumming from eating that nummy slop
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm Ken From Hyde Park:

If Mark had joined Amazon, we would surely now be enjoying tacos delivered via drones.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:32pm Handy Haversack:

Oh, tim. That timeline is hard to reach.
  6:32pm matt:

aw geez
  6:32pm audiocarp:

If we get into junk English, we'll be here all night.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm Niall:

audiocarp: Ha!
  6:33pm audiocarp:

In that photo, Bezos looks like a middle-aged Peter Lorre.
  6:33pm Tom from Stirling.:

Bezos looked like a dork back in the 90s.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:33pm tim from washington:

@Handy - you mean there's something that Big Tech CAN'T do?
  6:33pm omg:

Carmichael 6:28

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:33pm ultradamno:

@Ken HANDHELD CHICKEN QUESSADILLAS...he's not a monster!
  6:34pm Sam:

It makes perfect sense. Taco Bell is to gastronomy what Amazon is to civilization.
  6:34pm choggie:

Wonder if there's a Taco Bell on that hooker-yacht he's destroying the bridge for....
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm Bryant in TO:

Still waiting on Taco Bell "green" menu that The Onion showcased about a decade ago. No ingredients taken from nature and I think there was a chalupa that filtered out air pollution.
  6:34pm matt:

all sorts of snakes know how to charm you
Avatar 🤖 6:34pm MarciB:

I recall the early Bezos - kind of schlubby...then once day I saw a photo of him looking like Dr Evil. But in shape. It had to be the money - I've seen it so many times.
Avatar 6:34pm Megaroni:

Was at Bryant Park on Saturday and them posting “prime” at the entrance to the ice skating lodge is just obscene
  6:34pm omg:

True dat

Money is the root of all dickheads I’ve known.
  6:34pm choggie:

All of Taco Bell's products are made from the same seven ingredients.....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm chris in the redwoods:

schmo to richest guy in the world *has* to change a guy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm ultradamno:

In fairness to Bezos, they still had Mexican Pizzas back then.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:35pm PaulRobeson1920:

@OMG @6:28 (probably a nameless trool) that is absurd. The Moral High Ground is peaceful & just and has always been! MARK IS TELLING IT LIKE IT IS.

Mark is telling the truth!
A more apt comparison to Nazism is having an authority tell you white is black and expecting you to believe it!

Any suggestion to violence is absurd
  6:35pm omg:

Visions of godhood

Etc etc
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:35pm dale:

i used to look fit and like dr. evil. then i lost my money and now i look schlubby.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm Bryant in TO:

Might've been Fast Food Nation where a Taco Bell worker said the key to their menu was "just add water." Might be wrong but that just feels right
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:36pm Rich in Washington:

LOL, dale!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:36pm PaulRobeson1920:

The Mansion is warm on the top of the hill…
  6:37pm Roland from Australia:

Great story ! Makes me think, I started buying books from Amazon in 1995, they surprised me by how quickly the book arrived in the Uk I later learned they had a base in the UK - the book was Unix Power Tools. Late 90’s early 2000’s I considering (desired) working at Amazon. Even then I had sense that the were on to something. - it’s a crazy world
  6:37pm ?:

I'm not sure it's the money per se. More like the machinations one has to engage in--the politics, the flattery, the backroom deals, the violations of law--in order to sustain the acceleration of wealth.
Avatar 6:37pm (((Murakami Whywolf):

I don't object to some guy's being fabulously rich because I want every single human being to be fabulously rich.
  6:37pm DanFA:

Baron Harkonen Bezos
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:37pm tim from washington:

I told my shop steward at work the Bezos union joke that was on Techtonic last week. It was a big hit.
  6:37pm choggie:

All of Jeff bezos girlfriends look like Pilates addicts
  6:38pm Listener Robert:

I do remember another TV commercial they had either slightly earlier or later. A snooty-but-trendy sounding guy, presented with the food said, "Ah, the new hand-held from Taco Bell. But does it come with any games?" And the guy presenting it says, "Oh, yeah." And it came with a scratch-off prize ticket.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:38pm PaulRobeson1920:

Thats CRAZY!!! Move pollution to space???!!

The future is CRADLE TO CRADLE! Designing products with future lifecycles in mind….
Avatar 🤖 6:38pm Bas NL:

Why not just have chimneys into space?
  6:39pm audiocarp:

Is the Netherlands where yacht rock comes from?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm chris in the redwoods:

you're a true innovator, Bas.
Avatar 🤖 6:39pm MarciB:

The Dutch plan on egging the yacht I think is what I read
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm Franco Twinkie:

Sounds like Jeff took a trip....and never came back.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:39pm dale:

rich - you get beat up after awhile.
Avatar 6:39pm HyperDose:

My favorite Bezos meme: img.ifunny.co...
Avatar 6:39pm cosmic matrix:

i wonder if he's had plastic surgery. he looks so friggin' different!
  6:39pm omg:


Jeff knows that any woman that shows him the least interest is only interested in the financial gain he represents

All pollution industries into space.

Hence the Elon Musk satellite custerfrack

Near earth orbit precursor of the pacific plastic garbage gyre
  6:39pm choggie:

They don't shoot pollution into space, because it might come back down if the rocket can't get out of atmosphere.....
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:39pm Webhamster Henry:

Amazon is the power house of the automotive industry. www.caranddriver.com...
  6:39pm audiocarp:

I hope they use century eggs
  6:40pm Lepton:

You don't need prime for free shipping
Minimize impulsive Amazon purchases
Just make purchases totaling $29 min free shipping qualifier. Easy as pi
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm tim from washington:

I trust the Dutch know what to do here. They invented sabotage.
Avatar 🤖 6:40pm MarciB:

@Cosmic - you bet he did!
Avatar 🤖 6:40pm Bas NL:

Well done Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:40pm dale:

that was a jerry lewis movie - 'don't raise the bridge - lower the river.'
  6:40pm yippie:

rotterdam needs more coffeeshops
  6:40pm morphe':

Yacht called = Y721??? meaning... Yer Nederlands was decent ..
I am thinking they will now move the yacht out and put the masts on later???
Avatar 6:40pm Fredericks:

Waste in Space. Remember "dilution is the solution for pollution?"
  6:40pm audiocarp:

Lepton, the goal is to avoid using Amazon completely
  6:40pm Sam:

Ei Ei, Captain!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm Rich in Washington:

where does one get rotten eggs these days? Is there a store?
Avatar 6:41pm cosmic matrix:

@marciB, can't do they do anything about his eyes i wonder? maybe he likes them that way
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm Handy Haversack:

You can get rotten eggs in the Netherlands?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm Webhamster Henry:

Too bad it's not Norway, they could throw lutefisk.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm melinda:

@Rich they'll have to settle for fresh, I guess
  6:41pm Sam:

I looked out the window, seen his bald head
Ran to the fridge and pulled out an egg
Avatar 🤖 6:41pm MarciB:

I will be cheering these good folks on!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:41pm MyAcademy:

Mark, don't forget about Bezos throwing $42m at hollowing out a mountain to build a... clock. authentictexan.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:41pm PaulRobeson1920:

The Future… we will as a people, all of humanity, be more like the Cherry Tree!!!


Cradle to Cradle: Remaking the Way We Make things
  6:42pm audiocarp:

It would be easier to remove the yacht superstructure, wouldn't it?
  6:42pm Tom from Stirling.:

Why not just throw the eggs from the bridge?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm Rich in Washington:

I've overbought eggs and went on trips leaving eggs in the fridge and never had them go bad. How long must one store eggs to make them bad.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:42pm PaulRobeson1920:

Move Somthing that won’t exist to space? is Crazy!
  6:42pm omg:

Robeson 6:35

Relax chronic
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm Fishtown Mike:

Unfortunately, the yacht's crew will bear the brunt of that demonstration. Bezos will be neither aboard during, nor swabbing the decks afterwards.
Avatar 6:42pm Fox:

The bridge will be dismantled.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm Rich in Washington:

throw a refrigerator at Bezos' yacht. That would be impressive, but could be done.
  6:42pm audiocarp:

Rich, leave them out of the fridge!
  6:42pm choggie:

Amazon protest: Return items in Amazon boxes full of stuff that didn't come from Amazon....
  6:42pm Dayfid:

Ordering a sling shot and rotten eggs from amazon right now.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:43pm tim from washington:

Can you buy rotten eggs from Prime?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm Wenzo Toad:

you’re not advocating pelting JB’s yacht with rotten eggs? wtf mark. We should all give $5 to crowd fund a fleet of trebuchets
  6:43pm audiocarp:

that's a good one, Choggie
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:43pm Bryant in TO:

@tim Good point. They should swap the eggs for clogs
  6:43pm Tom from Stirling.:

Have some Amazon drones drop eggs on the yacht.
Avatar 🤖 6:43pm Bas NL:

I'm sure Bezos bought every stinking rotten egg around.
Avatar 6:43pm HyperDose:

You can drop a large payload of expired foodstuffs from a sturdy drone...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:43pm DjLorraine:

Dismantling a bridge?....in war they used to destroy bridges. Now they just ask if you'd do it for them.
  6:44pm PJ:

@PaulRobeson1920: Abe Books is owned by Amazon . . .
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm MyAcademy:

@PaulRobeson1920, Cradle to Cradle is a dope book, but Amazon purchased Abe in 08.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm PaulRobeson1920:

Hi Jeff B! & All! Warm Greetings!

Come to Know Paul through his own mind, pen and music…

The Greatest Male singer in recorded history!
  6:44pm choggie:

Whoa. Drones dropping eggs....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:44pm Rich in Washington:

Excellent observation DJLorraine!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm hendrix wolfbat:

@choggie, like the comment about how egging the yacht would only affect the crew , not lord Bezos, so too the returning of non amazon goods to the warehouse would only annoy and frustrate Amazon workers
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:44pm PaulRobeson1920:

@MyAcademy! @6:44 Wow did not know that!
  6:45pm choggie:

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm WR:

Transformative "tech" or business "paradigm change" is the willingness to do what ever it takes achieve dominance. The corporate leadership which embraces the "whatever it takes" approach inevitably lose any perspective toward the greater good.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm LCBD:

Bezos is such a gross person!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:45pm chresti:

Nacho cheese canons!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm Handy Haversack:

Yeah, the loss of Abe Book sucked. Finding used/rare/import books online without using monster services has grown difficult.
Avatar 6:46pm Jeff Moore:

One of the flavors of regulatory capture.
  6:46pm choggie:

Mail stuff straight to one of Bezos' gajillion dollar residences....
Avatar 6:46pm HyperDose:

And you do have access to a large amount of tennis balls, chresti!
  6:46pm omg:

Y’all really gotta get over the fact this is a public board

I know it’s your private knitting circle mostly for the chronics that hate anyone who they can’t identify and immediately label troll.

Anonymous ain’t gonna hurt you.

Ever actúa listen to what mark is saying?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm Ken From Hyde Park:

I've seen some Amazon TV ad recently, claiming they offer entry-level jobs at $15+ an hour. They showed a worker scanning packages and putting them onto trays on a conveyor belt. Of course, they left out all the bad stuff.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:46pm hendrix wolfbat:

@LCBD word, his riches could solve so many problems in the USA and probably elsewhere
Avatar 🤖 6:46pm Bas NL:

By the by, the bridge has been removed for other ships to get through in the past...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm dale:

so much of my retirement account is invested in amazon and google and meta. what's a future retiree to do?
  6:47pm Sam:

Apple? Didn’t they go out of business back in the 80’s?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:47pm dale:

...it wasn't when i invested in it so don't blame me.
Avatar 6:47pm cosmic matrix:

omg it's not just potentially plastic surgery..it's bio-hacking perhaps...stem cells..hormones...
  6:47pm choggie:

....old books, broken plastic crap made in China, hairbrush hair, cheese balls for packing peanuts, etc.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:47pm hendrix wolfbat:

@Bas NL good to know it is not just Bezos who is a self important turd
  6:48pm omg:

No IP address is anonymous in the long run.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm LCBD:

You know it @hendrix wolfbat! Shocking to me that his ego wouldn't enjoy that more than all this self-indulgent b.s.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm Webhamster Henry:

Well, the rich are just not rich enough. Is there way we we can forgive them more taxes?
  6:48pm JR:

Mark, would you mind doing an interview with Jeff Bezos today?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm PaulRobeson1920:

The Power of the Nation State is eclipsed by the power of corporations… C Wright. Mills has Somthing to say about this…
  6:48pm DanFA:

Other customers who wanted to kill themselves used this
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:48pm hendrix wolfbat:

LCBD as was said before , he has changed, that kind of money goes to their heads not their hearts
  6:49pm lazy pierogi:

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm LCBD:

Oh my god, I am speechless
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:49pm Franco Twinkie:

What is the product? Just in case.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm hendrix wolfbat:

how the super rich do not live among the rest of us. they literally don't
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:49pm PaulRobeson1920:

It becomes a game. What can you really do with anything over 50 Million Dollars? R we not brothers? Or r we playing a selfish game?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Very simply - it's Late Stage Capitalism. This Society rewards financial Predators. We've even had a President of the United States - a so-called 'Leader of the Free World' no less - who was no more than a trust fund NYC Real Estate con artist & criminal. That's how much the Predators are Rewarded. Social Inequity & even the Destruction of the Natural Planet (that's not hyperbole: that's the 6th Mass Extinction in the Natural History of the Earth - & already catastrophic Climate Change - both signatures of the Anthropocene, meaning inarguably Caused by Homo Sapiens) notwithstanding - as well as the Technical Engineering of our own subjugation, loss of individuality - even obsolescence - continues apace...
Avatar 🤖 6:50pm Rolando:

It's a bit like governments bailing out businesses and banks who are not doing very well or who have done faulty deals. - it's wrong !! Also governments pay or at least give Tax Relief to broadcasters and newspapers. it's wrong. Also, our leaders meet with these guys and plan how to manage the electorate. - Crazy
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:50pm Handy Haversack:

@omg: I don't think you're a troll.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm G:

Jeff Bezoar
Avatar 🤖 6:51pm Bas NL:

An analysis in my newspaper found there are very little things to buy that are really expensive.
  6:51pm DanFA:

Mark, you should consider having Kashmir Hill, tech journalist, on the show.
  6:51pm Listener Robert:

But your family and friends don't own your life.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Fuzzy:

Egg it in every port it visits! Rotten veggies, paintballs, etc...be creative!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Webhamster Henry:

I'd like to have some old Techtonic guests back to see what they are up to.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm PaulRobeson1920:

“Build the road (Bridge) of peace before you, Build it wide and deep and long! Speed the slow and check the eager, help the weak and curb the strong…” - Paul Robeson
  6:52pm mmdd:

I just cancelled my membership, I had been meaning to do it for a while. It was easy, and took less than 5 minutes. Thanks Mark for all you do!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:52pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Stuff a banana in the yacht's tailpipe!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:53pm Fuzzy:

  6:53pm Tom from Stirling.:

Mark's getting worked -up again. Oh boy.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm PaulRobeson1920:

Amusing Ourselves to Death!
Avatar 6:54pm Megaroni:

Yet people keep buying from this horrible cancer of a business- how do we reach the masses when corporate media dominates?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:54pm Handy Haversack:

Every phase of capitalism has its major horrid sector that dominates the evil effects on the planet and humanity, it seems, and this one is one of the worst.

I know this much: we can't solve it through more capitalism.
  6:54pm But beyond the clickbait:

That bridge that will be temporarily moved so his Uber yacht can pass

It was rebuilt before.

It can be modified and made whole.

He’s offered to pay.

Personally we need to act locally and fix the problems here first prior to putting the oligarchs in their place.

I recommend guillotines
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm drowsy:

A friend was buying props from Amazon for a local The Sound of Music musical production. Boy Howdy her recommendations got Hitler-adjascent real quick... Made it hard to shop at work!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Perhaps it's a form of Diabetes of Human Psychological Values : just as we evolved to get as much sugar, fat & salt as possible - the power of Wealth simply overwhelms the Human Mental Organism...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm chris in the redwoods:

totally agree, Mark.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm dale:

what happened to buffet? i thought he was the biggest charitable giver...
  6:56pm But beyond the clickbait:

In USA, SCOTUS sold us down the river re money.

Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm hendrix wolfbat:

his GF of the moment doesn't look like he will giving any shits about helping others
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Henry Ford, Father of Industrialism as we know it, was majorly Nazi inclined & involved. This is profound.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Blobs:

Nice episode, Mark - I appreciate what you do.
  6:56pm David in London:

Classic Hurst.
Thanks Mark.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm ultradamno:

He kind of looks like Kevin Spacey in that screenshot
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm LCBD:

Thanks Mark! Bye everyone!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm Handy Haversack:

Great service to your listeners and your world once more tonight, Mark. Many many thanks!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm chresti:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm drowsy:

RRNov63 - checkout The Empire Never Ended podcast for that on Ford and more!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm Fuzzy:

Thank you Mark!
  6:57pm Sam:

I hate this billionaire charity stuff. The government should be taking these people’s money and using it to solve problems, instead of them picking and choosing what they want to give to and being called a fucking hero for it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:57pm StringOFperils:

Thank you, Mark!
  6:57pm Firebottle:

Yeah, but is there a list of what organizations this ex gal gave her billions to? I think it would shock people.
  6:57pm lazy pierogi:

bARBeque jeff
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:57pm PaulRobeson1920:

The top income earners tend to buy Luxury goods rather than give back to the public good. Not all, but most… Keynesianism worked and can work again…

We are all aboard the same train! To the East… where the 4 winds blow…
Yeah! Good Job Mackenzie Scott!
Avatar 🤖 6:58pm Bas NL:

Melinda Gates turned Bill to philanthropy..

Thanks Mark! Do give Jeff a heads-up on the coming WFMU Marathon! :)
Avatar 🤖 6:58pm Rolando:

Really nice show Mark. - Thanks
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Fuzzy:

@Sam: ding ding ding!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Mark. Did you ever happen to bump into the guy who started fogdog.com? Whatever became of him?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm PaulRobeson1920:

THANKS MARK! Peace& Love Ya’ll! Always! and farewell without end
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm chris in the redwoods:

Sam, the largest part of our tax money goes to the war machine. lets change that first, shall we?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:58pm tim from washington:

Thanks, Mark! Nice direction for tonight's show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone, for joining this evening. Looking forward to reading through the comments.
  6:59pm Sam:

Fair enough Chris
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Well of course if the UltraRich were Taxed proportionately @ (imagine!) the same rate as You & Me - all the conditions their 'charity' is aimed @ would barely exist (if @ all). You & I can barely comprehend their Wealth - the difference between million & billion. It's PR, no more or less.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Wenzo Toad:

thanks Mark, first time Ive listened ina while... really good show! missed the begining, will check out the archive later for sure
Avatar Swag For Life Member 7:00pm Mark Hurst:

@Wenzo Toad thanks & welcome back
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 7:01pm Webhamster Henry:

@RRNov63 et all: here's my little post on innumeracy: airoutslowly.blogspot.com...
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