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Options December 16, 2021: 'The function of art is to do more than tell it like it is – it’s to imagine what is possible' bell hooks RIP, with guest David Suisman, author of 'Selling Sounds'

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments New Approx. start time
Grachan Moncur III  evolution   Options evolution            0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
užupis  weird sisters   Options dirt  wollesonic        *   0:12:10 (Pop‑up)
The Lounge Lizards  The First and Royal Queen   Options queen of all ears            0:18:41 (Pop‑up)
amir elsaffar  march   Options rivers of sound  outhere        *   0:22:30 (Pop‑up)
marcos valle  gotta love again ( kaidi tathum remix)   Options Remixes JID010  jazz is dead        *   0:28:24 (Pop‑up)
we are frank chickens  mothra   Options We Are Frank Chickens            0:40:06 (Pop‑up)
Brrds  One Day All This Will Be A Memory   Options liminal space  bungalow ranch        *   0:45:11 (Pop‑up)
postal service  such great heights   Options such great heights            0:49:38 (Pop‑up)
Helado Negro  aureole   Options far in  4AD        *   0:54:43 (Pop‑up)
tuxedomoon  driving to verdun   Options minimal compact benjamin lew, aksak maboul tuxedomoon  crammed discss        *   1:01:34 (Pop‑up)
                1:03:31 (Pop‑up)
anika  finger pies   Options change  sacred bones        *   1:07:48 (Pop‑up)
sylvia  the notion   Options sweet stuff  wewantsounds  1975/20212      *   1:11:48 (Pop‑up)
oby onyioha  enjoy your life   Options i want to feel your love            1:15:18 (Pop‑up)
Bobbi Humphrey  smiling faces sometimes   Options dig this!            1:21:25 (Pop‑up)
major lance  i wanna make up ( before we break up)   Options Can I Be a Witness: Stax Southern Groove            1:28:34 (Pop‑up)
brandee younger  reclamation   Options somewhere different          *   1:31:56 (Pop‑up)
david suisman interview                1:41:19 (Pop‑up)
vernon dalhart  after the ball   Options             1:55:09 (Pop‑up)
david suisman interview                1:58:58 (Pop‑up)
sid hemphill's band  after the ball is over   Options             2:00:12 (Pop‑up)
david suisman interview                2:02:40 (Pop‑up)
arthur collins  everybody's doing it now   Options             2:14:17 (Pop‑up)
caruso  la donna e mobile   Options 2000            2:16:25 (Pop‑up)
caruso  otello   Options verdi arias            2:26:36 (Pop‑up)
david suisman interview                2:33:38 (Pop‑up)
Ethel Waters  down home blues   Options   black swan          2:35:47 (Pop‑up)
david suisman interview            author of Selling Sounds, the commercial revolution in american music    2:39:04 (Pop‑up)
firestone 7"                2:43:39 (Pop‑up)
carroll clark  nobody knows the trouble i've seen   Options   black swan          2:48:51 (Pop‑up)
private charles bowens  christmas in vietnam   Options       7"      2:51:49 (Pop‑up)

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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm Trouble:

if you don't know the work of the amazing writer bell hooks, here might be a place to start your research: msmagazine.com...
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:01am Handy Haversack:

Rest in power. Thanks for this, Trouble.

Also: hello! To Trouble and all the Troubled.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:01am listener james from westwood:

Morning, Trouble and all!
Avatar 9:01am Fredericks:

Like the drumming on this one.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:02am steveo:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:03am Trouble:

good morning thursday world!
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:03am YETI BOB:

I concur with Grachan Moncur! (this is awesome)
  9:04am Irene:

Good morning Trouble and all Modern Worldly people! Nice piece to start the day as I do the alternate side parking shuffle.
Avatar 9:04am PizzaWolf:

into this doom jazz vibe
  9:04am Emily:

Avatar 👻 9:07am TDK60:

Good morning, Trouble. RIP, bell hooks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:08am Trouble:

hola mlle emily!
Avatar 9:08am Dances with Moomins:

Morning Trouble & Troubled, a nice grey afternoon in Turku. Dark early these days, clouds sudding past the moon in the eastern skies and it's just past 4! Cheers
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:08am YETI BOB:

this was recorded in 1963 but if you told me it was from this year I'd believe you
  9:08am rx scabin:

Avatar 9:09am Juli:

GREAAAT stretching music lol
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:09am YETI BOB:

yeah it stretches your brain :-)
Avatar 👻 9:10am Peter in SEA:

Good morning Trouble and all, I just might make it to winter break...
Avatar 9:10am Juli:

While you stretch your body parts lol that are connected to the brain but yes also that too

And This Too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:11am Trouble:

good luck @ peter! i am feeling your pain...counting down the hours.
  9:11am Mike W.:

Surveying the field, watching for goose maneuvers
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:12am Handy Haversack:

Good luck, Irene! I'll be out sitting in the car for the TomDash-Bryce changeover tomorrow.

Morning, TDK60, Mike W. The geese are what they seem.
Avatar 9:13am Juli:

I am usually doing that thinking business too haha
While most things, it stretches and reaches haha
Avatar 9:14am Juli:

I think while I stretch
I think while I eat

Hehe this could be a children’s book haha
Avatar 9:15am Juli:

Glorious things are coming your waaaay hehe
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:16am Ken From Hyde Park:

Good morning, Trouble unlimited.
Avatar 👻 9:20am TDK60:

Handy, hello.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

The John Lurie memoir was one of the best things I read this year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:20am Trouble:

i like that trouble unlimited moniker, might have to change my nom de plume, nom de guerre, nom de disc
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:22am Pale Son:

So sad to hear about bell hooks. Good morning, all! Snow is gently falling on the northern flicker perched outside my window.
Avatar 9:22am Juli:

RIP :(
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:24am Stephen O:

Hey, I was painting with John for a minute there. Thanks for that Trouble.
Avatar 👻 9:24am Peter in SEA:

@pale son, sweet image, they do love their suet, don't they! :-)
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:25am Handy Haversack:

Honestly a little jealous, Pale Son. 62F today in NYC.
Avatar 👻 9:25am Peter in SEA:

@Trouble, we'll make it! We always do. ;-/
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am steveo:

pretending a flicker is not a bird, and reading as a poetic take on the winter sunlight
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:25am Pale Son:

@Peter This is the first year I've seen one, but it keeps coming back. Very cute!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:25am steveo:

thanks for the ms link; r.i.p (and p)
Avatar 👻 9:27am oshiwoshi:

ooh - this has flavours of film noir
  9:36am MplsCoco:

Morning Trouble!! Love listening to you on a Thursday morning 🌞
  9:38am TerrDE:

speaking of Music business, Bruce just sold out for half a billion
Avatar 9:40am Dances with Moomins:

  9:40am TerrDE:

Robin Williams covers the song
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@TerrDE: I understand why he did it but man, not looking forward to hearing Thunder Road during an SUV ad.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:41am listener james from westwood:

Avatar 👻 9:42am oshiwoshi:

was privileged to host japanese american toy theatre of london performance of double indemnity back in the day
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am melinda:

hi all
  9:42am TerrDE:

yep, tens of millions isn't enough ?
Avatar 👻 9:42am TDK60:

oshiwoshi, Sure it wasn't at night?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:42am Trouble:

i guess i am mispronouncing mothra...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:43am Trouble:

merci @ MplsCoco!
@dances with moomins : we are enjoying our moomin advent calendar this year!
Avatar 👻 9:44am oshiwoshi:

it was at night! you are correct!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:45am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

we are frank chickens sounds like the caption of a Kliban comic.
  9:45am TerrDE:

I thought it was going to be the summoning song from the movie. Mothra like Godzilla is female
Avatar 9:50am Juli:

Did you just put on Postal Service hehe
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:51am Anton:

Breaking my comment hiatus to comment: yasssssssssssssssssssssss
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 9:51am Pale Son:

Wow, haven't heard this in such a long time. Still sounds pretty sweet.
Avatar 9:54am john eck:

Hi Trouble, this song reminds me of the show you did for the anniversary of the moon landing. That was such a great show
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:54am listener james from westwood:

@trouble: Apologies, if you took my note @9:41 as pronunciation guidance; totally not intended! Just singing along as it were to the Peanuts' if not the Chickens' tune.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:56am Trouble:

thank you@john eck. i do love doing a moon landing mix...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 9:57am Trouble:

@listener james: no apologies needed: i was listening to the frank chickens say it and suddenly it had 3 syllables.
  10:03am prudy:

thanks for honoring bell hooks, Trouble. RIP
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 10:03am Pale Son:

Speaking of moons... Love these guys and they're so rarely heard!
  10:04am prudy:

Woods: when was Lurie memoir published...I totally missed it...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:08am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@prudy: August. The History of Bones.
Avatar 10:09am katie:

I LOVE that picture of her. Ain't I a woman and Teaching to transgress!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09am Trouble:

lurie autobio is brand new! they have them at little city books in hoboken. i hope santa brings me a copy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09am Adrian in London:

Hi Trouble, greetings from Plague Island!
  10:10am eva:

“all about love” life changing for me. rest in power-bell hooks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10am Trouble:

ugh. we will be there soon enough...@adrian.
  Swag For Life Member 10:10am Andrea:

Hi all! oh bell hooks...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Trouble: We watched an online book release talk. Q&A at the end was the usual thing and then a question: "Nesrin seems like a really nice person. What's it like to work with her" ....he thinks for a bit and then looks off camera..."Wait...was that you?" Nesrin posted the question. Those two are hilarious.
  10:16am Zinn The Mood:

My favorite show. Listening, though distractedly.

Felt dizzy with despair last night over the fate of and deeply disturbing non-interest in the insanely brutal treatment of Julian Assange.

Was at the rally on Monday in front of the UK consulate. All the stalwarts were there: Roger Waters, Katie Halper, Randy Credico, Susan Sarandon. But beyond maybe the half dozen of us and a few independent media lenses there wasn’t anybody else. Nobody seems to give a fuck, even as the implications are so staggeringly immense. Problem is so many have been conditioned by the MSM propaganda defamation. (PSA: If you know of others who have been, here’s a really good and comprehensive link covering most of the situation: p-node.org... )

Was just beginning to read the Dream Hampton piece on her when I decided to pop in (before wanting to confirm the author was, I believe, the daughter of assassinated Black Panther Fred Hampton).

Greetings to all!

Besides the non-coverage also of the Maxwell case there haven’t been two more consequential stories in many years than the two mentioned that warrant the attention and participation of all thinking and caring people!

The music allows us to dream of a better world, that we know exists. Upon which we must act. With the music inspiring our actions…
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19am Trouble:

@ woods: i love nesrin, she's a sweetheart.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:20am Greg from ZONE 5:

Morning, Trouble & all!
Avatar 10:26am Dances with Moomins:

nice smilin faces
Avatar 10:26am Juli:

Hello Zinnnnnn, Trouble, Greg, Woods of NH, Andreaaa and everyone else hehe

That is nice Zinn heeh is it Bell Hooks? or Your writing?
  10:26am eva:

thank goodness for music! spin it-trouble!
Avatar 10:27am Juli:


No one gives a fuck
Avatar 10:28am Juli:


I need to rhyme that. "Yes y'all
No one gives = s a FUCK"

Haha nice and harsh like I like it hehe
Avatar 👻 10:30am oshiwoshi:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Time for the daily standup. I hate the standup on Thursday. OK, every day but still...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34am Greg from ZONE 5:

Been loving this new Brandee Younger, but then everything she does is magic.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 10:34am Handy Haversack:

Now picturing Woods in front of a brick wall, spotlit, mic stand in hand. "I'm not saying work is stupid, but ..."

Zinn, thank you for that link and the update. Are there more protests planned? Where is information about them posted (please don't say social media!)?
  10:35am Zinn The Mood:

if it were bell hooks it would have all been lower case lettering…

(You should read “nobody seems to give a fuck” in George Carlin’s voice, particularly from his ultra-brilliant “It’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe in it” piece)
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 10:36am YETI BOB:

Handy: You're lucky you've never been on a team using the "Agile Methodology", it's horrible! Scrums and standups and a lot of wasted time and energy. Sorry Woods!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:36am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Handy: I tried that at a poetry slam...it didn't go over well.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 10:38am Handy Haversack:

Agile is pretty much the opposite of my industry. I wish they'd start realizing that that's a feature, not a bug. Move slowly, and don't break things.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@YETI BOB: Stories and tasks and parking lots and sprint planning and spring review and this and that and the other thing. Yeesh.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 10:38am YETI BOB:

After many years of that kind of BS I now have a job with 1 meeting per week, which is great. It does interfere with "Random Road" a bit but whatchagunadu?
  10:39am ??:

I believe there is strong evidence that Assange helped the Russians and Trump campaign with a timed leak... though that's not what he is in trouble for, I believe...
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 10:39am karlward:

If you're looking for a way to protect actual journalists, consider donating to the Committee to Protect Journalists: cpj.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:40am listener james from westwood:

David S! Inner Ear Detour champ!
Avatar 10:40am Roberto:

A weakly DJ?
  10:40am dario:

bike riding listening to your great sets
Avatar 10:41am Juli:

What Wow What

Haha ok nicely
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 10:41am karlward:

Or donate to the Freedom of the Press Foundation: freedom.press
Avatar 10:41am Juli:

What Wow What sounds like a Gameshow or Song Title lol hmmmm
Avatar 10:42am Juli:

Gameshow hehe

Anywho I need writers to write w
Avatar 10:42am Juli:

Possibly an Editor?
Avatar 10:43am Juli:

Shh wait I cannot hear the interview or discussion I don't know what is going on brb
  10:43am pp:

Inner Ear Detour was one of my early fave WFMU shows, will check out the book.
Avatar 10:44am Juli:

:Sheet Music is worthwhile:
Avatar 10:44am Roberto:

David's show was on air during my alternate-side-parking days ca. 2004-05. I spent a lot of time sitting in the car listening!
  10:50am Zinn The Mood:

Hey 2H!
I despise social media also, and exert a lot of energy avoiding it, almost always reaching for a book instead. Can’t remember how I heard…was it WBAI, maybe it actually was a fortuitous glance at Twitter based on “following” the right people, think maybe it was Margaret Kimberley of Black Agenda Report..

As I’m sure you’re aware of there’s absolutely no coverage whatsoever in the media. Just fucking staggering, that. Chilling. Totally Orwellian.

Don’t know of what’s next in the near future. Check in occasionally online with folks like Katie Halper and the aforementioned.

Randy Credico did a really good interview with the host of the RT show “Going Underground.” Included was a potent clip of William Kunstler, whose wife incidentally was there at the rally, speaking about how the elites who conspire behind the scenes to destroy truth-tellers, hide behind the public’s fealty to conditioned concepts of “law and order” and justice being “served” to persuade them to think the process is fair and therefore should be trusted (will look up link for you).
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51am Barney Grubbs:

We picked up an old piano when we bought a house in the early 2000s, and the bench was full of sheet music of pop music dating at least back to the 40s. It is an amazing snap shot of one person's musical tastes (And 50 cents for "It's Only a Paper Moon" from 1953 seems expensive for 5 pages of music)
Avatar 10:52am Juli:

Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 10:52am Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Zinn!
  10:52am ?:

anyone help me pls! what was playing 9:58ish ?? kinda like stereolab remixed
  10:53am Zinn The Mood:

You’ve just repeated the great slanderous lie propagated by the MSM.

Please see: greenwald.substack.com...
Avatar 10:57am Zipperhead7:

I wonder, as our physical interaction -w- music recordings decreases (from 78s to streaming), and programmability increases, music is increasingly about user self-reflection rather than artistic self-expression?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

I'd hate to hear "Thunder Road" during a car ad. On the other hand, I _might_ crack up hearing "The Rising" during a Viagra ad.
  10:57am Zinn The Mood:


“Analysis of Assange Show Trial”
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 11:00am Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Zinn.

This (via Olivia's newsletter) is a pretty chilling vision of the future of music as labels and rights-holding companies acquire more and more of our musical legacy: thebaffler.com...
  11:02am Moira Cohn:

how bout this version by irish singer
  11:04am Zinn The Mood:

Fascinating conversation, Trouble. Thanks!
Avatar 11:06am Bimbus Bambus:

Spoo Pee Doo isn't a Kwanza song??
Avatar 👻 11:06am Listening Out There:

Ergo, the Brill Building...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

@Bimbus Bambus: !!!!! Ha.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:11am Barney Grubbs:

there have been some interesting discussions of the history of irish ballad broadsheets etc. on the excellent Fire Draw Near podcast: soundcloud.com...
  11:12am Mike W.:

schooling the fuck out of these geese on cultural capital
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:14am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

I am totally going to need this book.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 11:17am Handy Haversack:

Mike W., see if you can get transcription and digital-reproduction rights to their honks!
  11:18am ??:

@Zinn--I think the fundamental question is if Wikileaks can be considered "Press." Seems to me they just dump illegally acquired info
  11:18am Mike W.:

Very little feedback from them @Handy, they were rapt. Caruso has now evoked one funny look.
  11:19am NotOnTV:

Does anyone remember the movie with the modern guy who thinks he's Jesus and they ballroom dance to this...(that), La Donna e Mobile
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 11:20am Handy Haversack:

I hope to evoke that much one day.
  11:23am Zinn The Mood:

When I was a kid just into jr high I went into the cool record store a few towns away. Thought I was reciting the chorus to a funky hard rock riff I loved, by asking if they had a single called “Talk This Way.” The clerk’s reaction was a knowing smirky smile. Which probably endeared me to him, but I was red-faced as a budding music obsessed adolescent.

Man, on a related note…there was such a charm and wondrous longing in hearing a song on the radio and then grasping for fragments of it in your mind until you could find it again. Shazam, my ass. It was simultaneously a frustrating challenge and rewarding longing for that elusive tune. Sort of a similar feeling one had as a teenager pining for one’s girlfriend, “absence makes the heart grow fonder,” etc.

Can’t imagine how it is today to be a young person but to never have had that feeling of missing someone, when everyone’s in constant, unending communication at all hours via texting and social media.
Avatar 👻 11:24am Listening Out There:

Early phonographs were made by furniture companies. Some early recordings were made the same companies, right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:24am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

Don't make fun of my audio equipment.
  11:26am AZ Dave:

Re the monkey, Jane Goodall likes to say that everyone who keeps a chimpanzee as a pet sooner or later decides they no longer want to keep a chimpanzee as a pet.
  11:28am Elizabeth:

Popping in from central Mexico just to say how wonderful it is to hear all this Caruso... especially from his early years as more of a baritone. Thank you Trouble
Avatar 11:29am Zipperhead7:

Victor's rival, Edison, emphasized audio quality rather than Victor's emphasis on stars like Caruso. Edison staked his device’s reputation on its fidelity, its exact replication of the original performance, a poignant claim given Edison’s hearing loss: he was known to sink his teeth into the base of the phonograph as a record played in order to better hear certain frequencies
  11:31am Elizabeth:

@zipperhead wow.
  11:31am ?:

do you people realize what's happening? is it because there's an element of cultural psychic revenge that its acceptable even encouraged? wow
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:31am WoodsOfNH (now Maine):

I have an Edison player. It's kinda fun.
Avatar 👻 11:32am oshiwoshi:

@Zinn The Mood: yes!
Avatar 11:35am Bimbus Bambus:

lol at Trouble referencing mp3s and Walkmans like it's 2001
Avatar 11:41am Juli:

Just listening and cleaning :}::}}}}
  11:42am morphe':

Just tuned in and thought it was Rob Weisberg speaking????
  11:43am timinoak:

Great interview. Thank you.
  11:45am morphe':

X-Ray Burns' father had a TV/Audio(???) shop in Kearney?
  11:48am Zinn The Mood:

(Apologies to Trouble, and all others who already know this…)

Wikileaks are not hackers; they are revolutionary repository designed to create a safe haven for whistleblowers to have their documents published anonymously. Wiki, and Julian, were internationally lauded and partnered with The NY Times, Guardian etc for doing the vital journalism of exposing governmental corruption across the globe.

They didn’t hack the DNC. They were presented with inside communications, of which you came read #PodestaEmails, the authenticity of which has never been disputed. Which also, as in the “Collateral Damage” videos provided by Chelsea Manning, have not resulted in the personal danger of any military personnel (another irresponsible and slanderous lie. Of which recently reared its
ugly head again, with the odious and disgraceful promulgation of practically the whole war chest full of lies by MSNBC dumbbell instigator Joe Scarborough and Claire McCaskill recently, which was vigorous refuted by among others, Taibbi/Halper and Greenwald this week).

Please listen to the links above addressed to HH.

Lastly, here’s the key paragraph from Greenwald about the motivations of the US liberal establishment:

“The Obama DOJ had spent years trying to concoct charges against Assange using a Grand Jury investigation, but ultimately concluded back in 2013 that prosecuting him would pose too great a threat to press freedom. But the Biden administration appears to have no such qualms, and The New York Times made clear exactly why they are so eager to see Assange in prison:

‘Democrats like the new Biden team are no fan of Mr. Assange, whose publication in 2016 of Democratic emails stolen by Russia aided Donald J. Trump’s narrow victory over Hillary Clinton.’

In other words, the Biden administration is eager to see Assange punished and silenced for life not out of any national security concerns but instead due to a thirst for vengeance over the role he played in publishing documents during the 2016 election that reflected poorly on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee. Those documents published by WikiLeaks revealed widespread corruption at the DNC, specifically revealing how they cheated in order to help Clinton stave off a surprisingly robust primary challenge from Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). WikiLeaks’ reporting led to the resignation of the top five DNC officials, including its then-Chair, Rep. Debbie Wassserman Schultz (D-FL). Democratic luminaries such as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Al Gore’s 2000 campaign chair Donna Brazile both said, in the wake of WikiLeak’s reporting, that the DNC cheated to help Clinton.”

Hope this illuminates some of it for you.

(Apologies again, Trouble!)
Avatar 11:48am Rosey is Listening on 91.1 MHz:

One big reason I'm very passionate about fighting car dependency. Nobody should be forced to take on enormous debt just to be able to get from place to place, especially something that comes with a ton of negative externalities. That is not freedom.
Avatar 11:50am Zipperhead7:

Great interview. Gotta get this book!
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 11:51am Handy Haversack:

Hey, Rosey! Long time, no see! Hope you're doing well.
  11:52am Actually:

@zinn That was an excellent summary of the facts

Just deleted a lesser comment that didn’t work as well.

Been great hearing David again today. Thx Trouble.
  11:53am JakeGould:

If Wikileaks is so wonderful, how come they have never presented documents connected to the GOP or others? Why is it consistently anti-DNC stuff?

Given the extent of Drumpf corruption, the fact that Wikileaks has nothing on any of that speaks volumes.

Wikileaks is a patsy for foreign influence in the U.S. There is no balance to their “leaks.”
  11:55am JakeGould:

“… played in publishing documents during the 2016 election that reflected poorly on Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee.”

What you are describing are efforts to place Drumpf in office that has lead to what positively? Let to a fascist in power and led to the January 6th insurrection.

The Clintons might be corrupt, but Drumpf was/is worse and at no moment did Wikileaks ever expose that guy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:56am radioronan:

This was great, thanks Trouble!
  11:56am JakeGould:

Anyway, thank you Trouble!

And power to all.
Avatar 👻 Swag For Life Member 11:57am Handy Haversack:

That went so fast! Thanks, Trouble! And thanks, David!

Stay Troubled, everyone.
  11:58am Another Patrick from Hoboken:

Just tuning into you this morning, sounds great; will listen in full in the archive later! Thank you Trouble!
  11:59am Brendan:

Thanks for this!
  11:59am morphe':

Private Charles Bowen info:

Harlem 1969: The Future of Soul
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:59am McGroovey:

@JakeGould Of course, let's not forget that Trump's flaws are obvious and well-known. We know he lies, because we've seen him do it it public. We know he's abused women, and we have everything but the pictures. We know he has contempt for democracy itself. And yet, people are totally willing to ignore those facts. It's not clear what secrets WikiLeaks could ever reveal about Trump that we don't already know.
  12:00pm morphe':

Thanks T. and all !!!!!
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