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Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 9:01am Listener Gregory: Almost had a congliption when I opened this page and didn't see anything!
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: I know the feeling, @Listener Gregory. Hello, sir!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am DJpeterDE: Hola outies!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am WR: I've found my way here to hear.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am fred: Good morning Jeff and listeners
	🦀 ♥ 9:06am Listener Gregory: I hope there will be fireworks.
	🦀 ♥ 9:06am WR: Day honoring declaration of unfettered capitalists and invitation to opportunists everywhere to make their strike.
	♥ 9:07am Jeff Golick: Wassup, @DJpeterDE! And @WR! And @fred! So glad to see you!
	9:08am Robm: Happy fourth
	♥ 9:09am Jeff Golick: And to you, @Robm!
	♥ 9:11am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Jeff and all other listeners.
	♥ 9:13am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @Andrew in Toronto!
	9:14am bigplanetnoise: Morning, Jeff and all - Happy 4th!
	♥ 9:15am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @bigplanetnoise! Welcome welcome.
	🦀 ♥ 9:16am DJpeterDE: Thought prompted by Zorn: has anyone heard the new Jamie Saft solo piano interpretations of Joe Morris record? I don’t feel like I have a handle on either JS or JM.
	♥ 9:18am Jeff Golick: Not yet, DJpeterDE, but saved to the wishlist! Morris is, in my experience, hard to get a handle on.
	🦀 ♥ 9:18am Stork: Good morning, my fellow organisms!
	♥ 9:20am Jeff Golick: And good afternoon to you, Herr Stork!i What you got in store for us today?
	🦀 ♥ 9:20am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	♥ 9:22am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @Andrew Waterloo!
	🦀 ♥ 9:25am Listener Gregory: Wow, where did you find this record (Verona Jazz)?? Never heard of it. What a line-up.
	♥ 9:26am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Andrew Waterloo!
	♥ 9:26am Doug Schulkind: Tutti tutti tutti!
	♥ 9:26am Jeff Golick: @LG: it's a compilation of performances over the years at Verona. I think my D:O partner Jeff Jackson hipped me to this one.
	♥ 9:27am Jeff Golick: Fruitti fruitti fruitti, @Doug!
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am hyde: whoa, i overslept. did i miss the pledge of allegiance?
	♥ 9:36am Jeff Golick: Well, we just pledged allegiance to Ornette, so no, @hyde. Just in (prime) time!
	🦀 ♥ 9:37am hyde: phew
	🦀 ♥ 9:38am Listener Gregory: I have never known what it means to pledge allegiance to a flag. It's not like the flag asks you to do anything. If the pledge simply omitted "to the flag of," it would make a lot more sense.
	🦀 ♥ 9:51am DJpeterDE: I have this record but I don’t think it registered on me before how much Andrew Hill there is in Taborn
	🦀 ♥ 9:51am chresti: Morning Jeff and d OUTers!
	🦀 ♥ 9:52am Listener Gregory: This has been very good, but I distinctly remember Jeff saying last time that today would be an "all Sousa show." @DJpeterDE, that is an excellent point.
	🦀 ♥ 9:52am DJpeterDE: LG it’s weirder than that. “I pledge allegiance to the flag... AND to the republic for which it stands”
	🦀 ♥ 9:53am DJpeterDE: Really just repeating your point
	🦀 ♥ 9:53am hyde: i heard that Jeff is saving Sousathon for that 6 hour block he's gonna do in August
	🦀 ♥ 9:54am hyde: wait, make that 7
	9:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah - Republic - not even a Democracy on paper. Been distracted - but listening & it's all been Grand.
	🦀 ♥ 10:00am WR: Humans have long used symbols and objects as their means of recognizing and connecting to social constructs.
	♥ 10:00am Jeff Golick: Hey, @chresti! Good early morn to you!
	♥ 10:02am Jeff Golick: @DJpeterDE: re that Hill/Taborn, probably a better comparison than I just made!
	🦀 ♥ 10:02am WR: as is often true, the Wikipedia page is of interest on the subject. en.wikipedia.org... Bellamy's original Pledge read: I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. As a socialist, he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity but decided against it, knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.
	🦀 ♥ 10:03am WR: That was in 1882. The "under god" was added in 1954.
	🦀 ♥ 10:04am Listener Gregory: @WR, Also, "fraternity" with women is linguistically contradictory. We really need a term like "siblingity." Seriously. But not "siblingity"!
	♥ 10:05am Jeff Golick: The educational battles now raging around 1619 and "critical race theory" are really a thing to see.
	🦀 ♥ 10:08am fred: I only pledge to WFMU
	♥ 10:08am Jeff Golick: :::salutes @fred:::
	🦀 ♥ 10:09am WR: Yes, Jeff, I've not kept up with it but did read that Texas was state central BOE, which approves textbooks and curriculum for all public schools in the state was considering removing all references to slavery.
	♥ 10:11am spodiodi: good morning, Jeff Golick and Far OUT folks! i'm just in time for Prince! god bless america! **==
	♥ 10:11am Jeff Golick: It's completely bonkers, @WR. But I think it's ultimately a good thing that these struggles are happening out in the open.
	♥ 10:11am Jeff Golick: Yoooo, @spodiodi!
	🦀 ♥ 10:12am fred: Though it's not a pledge, I booked tickets for the coming year this week. 58 shows, mostly dance. That might be a form of allegiance
	10:14am rw: Happy Independence Day! Dang. I just gave a wrong answer to the math question.
	♥ 10:15am Jeff Golick: ..and to you @rw! No wrong answers here.
	♥ 10:15am spodiodi: it's okay... math on a holiday is unamerican, rw **== happy independence day
	🦀 ♥ 10:16am Listener Gregory: America is the land where we elect "fuzzy math" president. And those were the good old days.
	🦀 ♥ 10:16am doctorjazz: Hi D.O. folks, Jeff!
	♥ 10:17am Jeff Golick: Hello, @doctorjazz!
	🦀 ♥ 10:18am DJpeterDE: Let’s continue to use scare quotes when talking about how the right wing is misrepresenting “CRT”..,
	10:18am rw: Ha! Thanks JG, spod and LG. Feeling more American by the minute.
	♥ 10:19am spodiodi: hi doctorjazz!
	🦀 ♥ 10:22am doctorjazz: Hi Spodiodi!
	🦀 ♥ 10:27am WR: Wait, rw, there are just these few questions the committee would like to ask you. In related newsI recently learned of the life and work of Gwendolyn Midlo Hall. en.wikipedia.org...
	🦀 ♥ 10:27am DJpeterDE: Excited to see that annette peacock’s records are back in print
	🦀 ♥ 10:32am hyde: there are so many things i'll never see now because i don't have these streaming services
	🦀 ♥ 10:36am Listener Gregory: @hyde, I think they will eventually appear more broadly... DVDs, TV broadcast, etc.
	🦀 ♥ 10:37am Listener Gregory: I hear dead people.
	🦀 ♥ 10:38am hyde: @LG i'm less convinced of that, now that these are all walled gardens. the rights holders have every incentive to hold that stuff out hoping that you'll subscribe to their library of stuff
	♥ 10:39am Jeff Golick: That Summer of Soul movie is at least in theaters, if that's something you're comfortable doing, @hyde (and assuming it arrives at a theater close enough to you to make it possible).
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am Listener Gregory: @hyde, maybe, but who knows if Hulu or Peacock or whatever will still be in business, in the same form, 5 years from now? Network TV shows that you couldn't see at all became available on Netflix... then disappeared and now are returning to the networks' streaming services. It all seems pretty fluid (in the long run).
	🦀 ♥ 10:41am Listener Gregory: @Jeff, it's showing at my local theater. You're inspiring me to try to stand up and go there.
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am hyde: @LG in the DVD era, you could get all those shows on disc and Netflix was a one stop shop of all of it! now it's multiple rivers of corporate services you need to subscribe to. i'll pass
	♥ 10:45am Jeff Golick: @LG: I suspect it would be thrilling on the big screen.
	🦀 ♥ 10:46am doctorjazz: Looks like Summer of Soul is playing not too far from me, in Menlo Park. Haven't braved a movie theater yet, have gone to restaurants and live music.
	🦀 ♥ 10:47am hyde: @LG like, i've been waiting since 2019 to see that Maradona documentary that was on HBO. now it's on Hulu. Diego there's no DVD, and it can't be seen outside of there.
	♥ 10:48am Jeff Golick: Waiting for the hand of god to sweep that onto DVD, I guess, @hyde.
	🦀 ♥ 10:49am hyde: @JG i've pretty much given up! and i loved the director's docs on Senna and Amy Winehouse
	🦀 ♥ 10:49am Listener Gregory: @hyde, all that's true, but there's still plenty to see with one or two services. I have Netflix DVDs still, and that has a lot of things that are hard to find in streaming form. But I don't assume that I'll get to see everything I want. Such is life!
	🦀 ♥ 10:49am DJpeterDE: FWIW, even before vaccines, movie theaters were safer than restaurants: everyone facing the same way, not talking, in a big space.
	🦀 ♥ 10:50am DJpeterDE: @LG, @Hyde: I can't see everything that I want on the few services I do have so I don't get too bothered about stuff I can't see on other services! (That doesn't seem to apply to my music consumption, though.)
	🦀 ♥ 10:52am hyde: @LG true enough. tho i ditched my Netflix DVD sub when I kept getting broken discs and it was clear they stopped replacing stuff
	🦀 ♥ 10:53am DJpeterDE: @hyde, I haven't researched this (and should), but I think the "walling" phenomenon is more about the majority of people (esp. younger people) wanting to stream and not wanting physical media
	🦀 ♥ 10:53am hyde: @DJPeterDE i just don't dig the balkanization of content, is all. i realize this is old man yells at cloud stuff.
	♥ 10:54am TDK60: Morning Jeff. I'm so glad this isn't England anymore. (But wait a second, they abolished slavery before we did...)
	🦀 ♥ 10:54am DJpeterDE: @hyde: yeliing at cloud is one thing. yelling at media consolidation is NOT crazy.
	🦀 ♥ 10:55am hyde: @DJPeterDE i think both things are at play. honestly. physical media no longer sells, AND companies have an incentive to hide their stuff away.
	♥ 10:56am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @TDK60!
	♥ 10:57am Jeff Golick: I think there is very little interest in back catalog, from streaming services. It's largely just chum to them, something to keep folks occupied. What they're all trying to do is create "original" "content," something that captures "buzz" and makes people sign up for their particular service.
	🦀 ♥ 10:58am doctorjazz: It's true, this walling of content sucks. On the other hand, I don't have time to get to music, videos, reading I'd like to get to as it is.
	🦀 ♥ 10:59am Listener Gregory: Have to say I was 99% unaware of Burton Greene until now. Somehow he was off the radar when I was first starting to explore this music.
	🦀 ♥ 11:00am DJpeterDE: But in other news, it looks like vinyl is overtaking CD for physical releases? And in my record store trip last weekend, overheard a young kid saying, "ooh, I think i'll like this LP because it's 'ROCK' and I like 'ROCK'" (all the 50 year olds in the store died a little bit inside)
	🦀 ♥ 11:00am hyde: @JG yep. i noticed yesterday on Prime (the one sub i have because i don't pay for it) that tons of old kung fu, giallo and other genre stuff i had on my watchlist is now no longer streaming for free. they just up and dropped the licences for hundreds of titles all at once
	♥ 11:00am Jeff Golick: After the ESP stuff, he doesn't really show up on any significant American labels again. Mostly small European outlets.
	🦀 ♥ 11:01am doctorjazz: Same as LG, Greene was a name I knew, but hadn't heard much of his music.
	🦀 ♥ 11:02am Listener Gregory: Burton Greene sounds like the name of a trust-fund kid. That might not have helped.
	🦀 ♥ 11:03am Stork: Sorry, Jeff, had to wrestle the demons of my DSL. Hoping all runs OK tonight. Today's show is kind of a surprise (he wrote, dubiously raising everyone's hopes) The Door to my Den of Dubiousness be here: wfmu.org...
	🦀 ♥ 11:05am doctorjazz: DJpeterDE, I've read that,at least in dollar amounts, vinyl has passed CD. Of course, charging twice as much for vinyl releases does help those numbers (but people are paying twice as much to buy them)
	♥ 11:05am Jeff Golick: Thus: Narada Burton Greene, later on, perhaps, @LG.
	🦀 ♥ 11:09am DJpeterDE: @doc Princeton Record Exchange has added more LP bins, and for those (like me) hunting through for rare OOP LP's, it was a little annoying to have to flip past all sorts of super-pricey new LP's of old music that sells
	♥ 11:09am spodiodi: this is great
	🦀 ♥ 11:13am Stork: I'm seeing some black spots where some of the album cover jpeg's are. Anybody else? Just my shitty connection?
	♥ 11:14am spodiodi: wouldn't have recognized his name before this set, but i'm glad to now know who Burton Greene is. thank you, Jeff Stork, all looks normal here to me
	♥ 11:15am spodiodi: (...and what you're seeing sounds very interesting to me... i don't know that i've ever seen such a thing)
	♥ 11:15am Jeff Golick: My pleasure, @spodiodi. Only sorry it's a sad occasion that brought us here.
	🦀 ♥ 11:16am doctorjazz: @DJpeterDE, haven't been to PREX (what my daughter, who went to TCNJ and bought CDs cheap there called it), curious to get back there one of these days. I LIKE these well pressed, 180 gm reissues, but a recent trip to a record store did exhaust me, have to day.
	♥ 11:17am alanr: late for the show.....but in time for dear Burton. will catch up in the archive later.
	🦀 ♥ 11:17am Stork: This is a lovely tribute, Jeff. I wasn't aware he'd passed, and I don't know enough of his music. Perry Robinson is a gem!
	♥ 11:17am spodiodi: aye, Jeff... rip, Mr. Greene, and thank you
	♥ 11:18am Jeff Golick: Always on time, @alanr! You in NYC now?
	♥ 11:18am alanr: and my eyes immediately watered with each note on the piano....
	♥ 11:18am alanr: sí. Back home in Brooklyn.
	♥ 11:20am Jeff Golick: Nice. Hope you missed the swamp-like conditions last week.
	♥ 11:21am alanr: I arrived for the rain and cooler temps. thanks for asking.
	♥ 11:25am Hams: right on.
	♥ 11:26am Jeff Golick: Oh yeah, @Hams.
	♥ 11:27am alanr: More of Burton appears in the doc "Inside Out In The Open, which will be screened online for all during the 25th annual Vision Festival beginning on July 22.
	♥ 11:29am alanr: youtu.be...
	♥ 11:30am Jeff Golick: Oh, great; thanks for that, @alanr. Will you be in attendance?
	♥ 11:35am alanr: sí. For the festival. You might even find me behind a video cam to help with the streaming. I will also have the new bio of John Tchicai "A Chaos With Some Kind of Order" for sale.
	🦀 ♥ 11:40am WR: was busy so couldn't look at the playlist when the interview audio played. It is from a released ESP album?
	♥ 11:42am Jeff Golick: Yes, @WR. When ESP reissued Greene's first quartet album, they added some interviews with him. Not sure of the date on those, tho.
	♥ 11:43am Jeff Golick: This is the version with the interviews: www.discogs.com...
	♥ 11:49am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks a lot for another great three-hour show!!
	🦀 ♥ 11:50am doctorjazz: Thanks Jeff!
	11:53am Marco Esquandolas: Thanks Jeff. I too had never heard of Burton Greene and really appreciated getting to hear it. Cheers and happy 4th everyone!
	♥ 11:53am spodiodi: thanks, Jeff!
	11:53am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...just too damn squirrels for Comments sometimes these days, it seems - but know that I'm so grateful for this Program.
	♥ 11:53am TDK60: Thanks, Jeff.
	11:54am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *squirrelly ...oh 'squirrels' is fine...
	♥ 11:54am spodiodi: sounds delicious
	♥ 11:55am Doug Schulkind: I like my hills squirrelly.
	🦀 ♥ 11:55am Stork: Jeff, I feel lousy standing in Serenity's path. Play it for us soon! That Greene remembrance was truly wonderful.
	11:55am rw: TYJG!
	♥ 11:56am I k e: Thanks Jeff!!!
	♥ 11:57am Jeff Golick: Thanks and so happy you were here, @Marco Esquandolas! And you, @Revolution Rabbit! And you, @Ike!
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am hyde: thanks!
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am Narada Listener Gregory: Intriguing show, Jeff. Thanks a lot.
	♥ 11:59am greg g: Thanks for introduction to Burton Greene. Take care
	🦀 ♥ 12:00pm chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	♥ 12:01pm Jeff Golick: Thanks for being here, @TDK60, @spodiodi, @Doug Schulkind, @Stork, @rw, @hyde, @Narada Listener Gregory, @greg g (hello!), @chresti, @Andrew in Toronto, @doctorjazz, and one and all. Bye-ya!
	🦀 ♥ 12:29pm WR: Thank you Jeff!

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July 4, 2021: The Greene-ing of D:O Radio.

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble	Tatas-Matoes	Congliptious	Nessa	1968		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra	The Perfect Man "The Perfect Man" by "Sun Ra"	My Brother The Wind, Vol. I	Saturn Research	1970		0:02:24 (Pop-up)
Cat Power	American Flag "American Flag" by "Cat Power"	Moon Pix	Matador	1998		0:05:16 (Pop-up)
Gnostic Trio	America, a Prophecy "America, a Prophecy" by "Gnostic Trio"	In Lambeth: Visions from the Walled Garden of William Blake	Tzadik	2013	comp. John Zorn	0:08:38 (Pop-up)
John Popham	America "America" by "John Popham"	Soft Aberration	New Focus Recordings	2017	comp. Scott Wollschleger	0:14:59 (Pop-up)
Ornette Coleman & Prime Time	Skies of America (Opening Theme / Tutti)	Verona Jazz	Nettle	1987/1996		0:22:54 (Pop-up)
Wadada Leo Smith's Golden Quartet	America's Third Century Spiritual Awakening	Golden Quartet	Tzadik	2000		0:34:23 (Pop-up)
Craig Taborn	American Landscape "American Landscape" by "Craig Taborn"	Light Made Lighter	thirsty ear	2001		0:46:25 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & The MGs	Melting Pot "Melting Pot" by "Booker T. & The MGs"					0:50:41 (Pop-up)
James Blood Ulmer	I Belong in the U.S.A.	America - Do You Remember the Love?	Blue Note	1987		0:58:14 (Pop-up)
Stevie Wonder	Jesus Children of America	Innervisions	Tamla	1973		1:04:53 (Pop-up)
Prince and the Revolution	America	Around the World in a Day	Paisley Park/Warner Bros.	1985		1:09:08 (Pop-up)
La Düsseldorf	America "America" by "La Düsseldorf"	Néondian (Klausi Scheißt Auf Hollywood)	Teldec	1985		1:12:39 (Pop-up)
The Glands	Favorite American "Favorite American" by "The Glands"	The Glands	Capricorn Records	2000		1:18:09 (Pop-up)
Bob Dylan	All American Boy "All American Boy" by "Bob Dylan"	The Basement Tapes Complete: The Bootleg Series Vol. 11	Columbia	1967/2014		1:21:23 (Pop-up)
Annette Peacock	American Sport "American Sport" by "Annette Peacock"	The Perfect Release	Aura	1979		1:25:21 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Natural Food	Fair Breeze on Buzzard's Bay					1:29:10 (Pop-up)
Burton Greene, RIP. "Burton Greene, RIP."
Burton Greene	Freebop the 4th "Freebop the 4th" by "Burton Greene"	Live at Kerrytown House	NoBusiness Records	2010		1:36:10 (Pop-up)
Burton Greene	Tree Theme II "Tree Theme II" by "Burton Greene"	Live at the Woodstock Playhouse 1965	Porter Records	1965/2010		1:40:46 (Pop-up)
Burton Greene / Daoud Amin	Woodstock Vibrations (1967)	Trees	Button-Nose Records	1973		1:52:38 (Pop-up)
Burton Greene	In Your Own Sweet Way	It's All One	Horo	1978		2:04:01 (Pop-up)
Burton Greene	Renaissance Variations II. Kalenda Maya	European Heritage	Circle	1978		2:08:47 (Pop-up)
Perry Robinson & Burton Greene	Song for My Friend Burton	Two Voices in the Desert	Tzadik	2009		2:14:27 (Pop-up)
Burton Greene	speaks "speaks" by "Burton Greene"	Bloom in the Commune	ESP-Disk'	??/2007		2:20:11 (Pop-up)
Burton Greene	Funk Dumplin' "Funk Dumplin'" by "Burton Greene"	Compednium - Solos, Duos, Trios	Improvising Beings	2016		2:25:06 (Pop-up)
Burton Greene/Damon Smith/Ra Kelam Bob Moses	Anything that Ain't Yes, Get Rid of It	Life's Intense Mystery	Astral Spirits	2017		2:29:24 (Pop-up)
Abdelhaï Bennani, Burton Greene, Chris Henderson, Alan Silva	Free Form Composition 13	Free Form Improvisation Ensemble 2013	Improvising Beings	2013		2:34:59 (Pop-up)
Brian Groder & Burton Greene	Sleepwalker	Groder & Greene	Latham Records	2007		2:40:48 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Jackie Mittoo	More than Yesterday					2:48:39 (Pop-up)
Robbie Basho	American Sunday "American Sunday" by "Robbie Basho"	Song of the Avatars: The Lost Master Tapes	Tompkins Square	??/2021		2:53:59 (Pop-up)
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear	Flute Music "Flute Music" by "Dudu Pukwana & Spear"	Flute Music	Caroline	1975		2:57:44 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🦀 ♥ 9:01am Listener Gregory: Almost had a congliption when I opened this page and didn't see anything!
	♥ 9:02am Jeff Golick: I know the feeling, @Listener Gregory. Hello, sir!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am DJpeterDE: Hola outies!
	🦀 ♥ 9:03am WR: I've found my way here to hear.
	🦀 ♥ 9:04am fred: Good morning Jeff and listeners
	🦀 ♥ 9:06am Listener Gregory: I hope there will be fireworks.
	🦀 ♥ 9:06am WR: Day honoring declaration of unfettered capitalists and invitation to opportunists everywhere to make their strike.
	♥ 9:07am Jeff Golick: Wassup, @DJpeterDE! And @WR! And @fred! So glad to see you!
	9:08am Robm: Happy fourth
	♥ 9:09am Jeff Golick: And to you, @Robm!
	♥ 9:11am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Jeff and all other listeners.
	♥ 9:13am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @Andrew in Toronto!
	9:14am bigplanetnoise: Morning, Jeff and all - Happy 4th!
	♥ 9:15am Jeff Golick: Thanks, @bigplanetnoise! Welcome welcome.
	🦀 ♥ 9:16am DJpeterDE: Thought prompted by Zorn: has anyone heard the new Jamie Saft solo piano interpretations of Joe Morris record? I don’t feel like I have a handle on either JS or JM.
	♥ 9:18am Jeff Golick: Not yet, DJpeterDE, but saved to the wishlist! Morris is, in my experience, hard to get a handle on.
	🦀 ♥ 9:18am Stork: Good morning, my fellow organisms!
	♥ 9:20am Jeff Golick: And good afternoon to you, Herr Stork!i What you got in store for us today?
	🦀 ♥ 9:20am Andrew Waterloo: good morning
	♥ 9:22am Jeff Golick: Hiya, @Andrew Waterloo!
	🦀 ♥ 9:25am Listener Gregory: Wow, where did you find this record (Verona Jazz)?? Never heard of it. What a line-up.
	♥ 9:26am Andrew in Toronto: Hi there Andrew Waterloo!
	♥ 9:26am Doug Schulkind: Tutti tutti tutti!
	♥ 9:26am Jeff Golick: @LG: it's a compilation of performances over the years at Verona. I think my D:O partner Jeff Jackson hipped me to this one.
	♥ 9:27am Jeff Golick: Fruitti fruitti fruitti, @Doug!
	🦀 ♥ 9:34am hyde: whoa, i overslept. did i miss the pledge of allegiance?
	♥ 9:36am Jeff Golick: Well, we just pledged allegiance to Ornette, so no, @hyde. Just in (prime) time!
	🦀 ♥ 9:37am hyde: phew
	🦀 ♥ 9:38am Listener Gregory: I have never known what it means to pledge allegiance to a flag. It's not like the flag asks you to do anything. If the pledge simply omitted "to the flag of," it would make a lot more sense.
	🦀 ♥ 9:51am DJpeterDE: I have this record but I don’t think it registered on me before how much Andrew Hill there is in Taborn
	🦀 ♥ 9:51am chresti: Morning Jeff and d OUTers!
	🦀 ♥ 9:52am Listener Gregory: This has been very good, but I distinctly remember Jeff saying last time that today would be an "all Sousa show." @DJpeterDE, that is an excellent point.
	🦀 ♥ 9:52am DJpeterDE: LG it’s weirder than that. “I pledge allegiance to the flag... AND to the republic for which it stands”
	🦀 ♥ 9:53am DJpeterDE: Really just repeating your point
	🦀 ♥ 9:53am hyde: i heard that Jeff is saving Sousathon for that 6 hour block he's gonna do in August
	🦀 ♥ 9:54am hyde: wait, make that 7
	9:58am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah - Republic - not even a Democracy on paper. Been distracted - but listening & it's all been Grand.
	🦀 ♥ 10:00am WR: Humans have long used symbols and objects as their means of recognizing and connecting to social constructs.
	♥ 10:00am Jeff Golick: Hey, @chresti! Good early morn to you!
	♥ 10:02am Jeff Golick: @DJpeterDE: re that Hill/Taborn, probably a better comparison than I just made!
	🦀 ♥ 10:02am WR: as is often true, the Wikipedia page is of interest on the subject. en.wikipedia.org... Bellamy's original Pledge read: I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. As a socialist, he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity but decided against it, knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans.
	🦀 ♥ 10:03am WR: That was in 1882. The "under god" was added in 1954.
	🦀 ♥ 10:04am Listener Gregory: @WR, Also, "fraternity" with women is linguistically contradictory. We really need a term like "siblingity." Seriously. But not "siblingity"!
	♥ 10:05am Jeff Golick: The educational battles now raging around 1619 and "critical race theory" are really a thing to see.
	🦀 ♥ 10:08am fred: I only pledge to WFMU
	♥ 10:08am Jeff Golick: :::salutes @fred:::
	🦀 ♥ 10:09am WR: Yes, Jeff, I've not kept up with it but did read that Texas was state central BOE, which approves textbooks and curriculum for all public schools in the state was considering removing all references to slavery.
	♥ 10:11am spodiodi: good morning, Jeff Golick and Far OUT folks! i'm just in time for Prince! god bless america! **==
	♥ 10:11am Jeff Golick: It's completely bonkers, @WR. But I think it's ultimately a good thing that these struggles are happening out in the open.
	♥ 10:11am Jeff Golick: Yoooo, @spodiodi!
	🦀 ♥ 10:12am fred: Though it's not a pledge, I booked tickets for the coming year this week. 58 shows, mostly dance. That might be a form of allegiance
	10:14am rw: Happy Independence Day! Dang. I just gave a wrong answer to the math question.
	♥ 10:15am Jeff Golick: ..and to you @rw! No wrong answers here.
	♥ 10:15am spodiodi: it's okay... math on a holiday is unamerican, rw **== happy independence day
	🦀 ♥ 10:16am Listener Gregory: America is the land where we elect "fuzzy math" president. And those were the good old days.
	🦀 ♥ 10:16am doctorjazz: Hi D.O. folks, Jeff!
	♥ 10:17am Jeff Golick: Hello, @doctorjazz!
	🦀 ♥ 10:18am DJpeterDE: Let’s continue to use scare quotes when talking about how the right wing is misrepresenting “CRT”..,
	10:18am rw: Ha! Thanks JG, spod and LG. Feeling more American by the minute.
	♥ 10:19am spodiodi: hi doctorjazz!
	🦀 ♥ 10:22am doctorjazz: Hi Spodiodi!
	🦀 ♥ 10:27am WR: Wait, rw, there are just these few questions the committee would like to ask you. In related newsI recently learned of the life and work of Gwendolyn Midlo Hall. en.wikipedia.org...
	🦀 ♥ 10:27am DJpeterDE: Excited to see that annette peacock’s records are back in print
	🦀 ♥ 10:32am hyde: there are so many things i'll never see now because i don't have these streaming services
	🦀 ♥ 10:36am Listener Gregory: @hyde, I think they will eventually appear more broadly... DVDs, TV broadcast, etc.
	🦀 ♥ 10:37am Listener Gregory: I hear dead people.
	🦀 ♥ 10:38am hyde: @LG i'm less convinced of that, now that these are all walled gardens. the rights holders have every incentive to hold that stuff out hoping that you'll subscribe to their library of stuff
	♥ 10:39am Jeff Golick: That Summer of Soul movie is at least in theaters, if that's something you're comfortable doing, @hyde (and assuming it arrives at a theater close enough to you to make it possible).
	🦀 ♥ 10:40am Listener Gregory: @hyde, maybe, but who knows if Hulu or Peacock or whatever will still be in business, in the same form, 5 years from now? Network TV shows that you couldn't see at all became available on Netflix... then disappeared and now are returning to the networks' streaming services. It all seems pretty fluid (in the long run).
	🦀 ♥ 10:41am Listener Gregory: @Jeff, it's showing at my local theater. You're inspiring me to try to stand up and go there.
	🦀 ♥ 10:44am hyde: @LG in the DVD era, you could get all those shows on disc and Netflix was a one stop shop of all of it! now it's multiple rivers of corporate services you need to subscribe to. i'll pass
	♥ 10:45am Jeff Golick: @LG: I suspect it would be thrilling on the big screen.
	🦀 ♥ 10:46am doctorjazz: Looks like Summer of Soul is playing not too far from me, in Menlo Park. Haven't braved a movie theater yet, have gone to restaurants and live music.
	🦀 ♥ 10:47am hyde: @LG like, i've been waiting since 2019 to see that Maradona documentary that was on HBO. now it's on Hulu. Diego there's no DVD, and it can't be seen outside of there.
	♥ 10:48am Jeff Golick: Waiting for the hand of god to sweep that onto DVD, I guess, @hyde.
	🦀 ♥ 10:49am hyde: @JG i've pretty much given up! and i loved the director's docs on Senna and Amy Winehouse
	🦀 ♥ 10:49am Listener Gregory: @hyde, all that's true, but there's still plenty to see with one or two services. I have Netflix DVDs still, and that has a lot of things that are hard to find in streaming form. But I don't assume that I'll get to see everything I want. Such is life!
	🦀 ♥ 10:49am DJpeterDE: FWIW, even before vaccines, movie theaters were safer than restaurants: everyone facing the same way, not talking, in a big space.
	🦀 ♥ 10:50am DJpeterDE: @LG, @Hyde: I can't see everything that I want on the few services I do have so I don't get too bothered about stuff I can't see on other services! (That doesn't seem to apply to my music consumption, though.)
	🦀 ♥ 10:52am hyde: @LG true enough. tho i ditched my Netflix DVD sub when I kept getting broken discs and it was clear they stopped replacing stuff
	🦀 ♥ 10:53am DJpeterDE: @hyde, I haven't researched this (and should), but I think the "walling" phenomenon is more about the majority of people (esp. younger people) wanting to stream and not wanting physical media
	🦀 ♥ 10:53am hyde: @DJPeterDE i just don't dig the balkanization of content, is all. i realize this is old man yells at cloud stuff.
	♥ 10:54am TDK60: Morning Jeff. I'm so glad this isn't England anymore. (But wait a second, they abolished slavery before we did...)
	🦀 ♥ 10:54am DJpeterDE: @hyde: yeliing at cloud is one thing. yelling at media consolidation is NOT crazy.
	🦀 ♥ 10:55am hyde: @DJPeterDE i think both things are at play. honestly. physical media no longer sells, AND companies have an incentive to hide their stuff away.
	♥ 10:56am Jeff Golick: Good morning, @TDK60!
	♥ 10:57am Jeff Golick: I think there is very little interest in back catalog, from streaming services. It's largely just chum to them, something to keep folks occupied. What they're all trying to do is create "original" "content," something that captures "buzz" and makes people sign up for their particular service.
	🦀 ♥ 10:58am doctorjazz: It's true, this walling of content sucks. On the other hand, I don't have time to get to music, videos, reading I'd like to get to as it is.
	🦀 ♥ 10:59am Listener Gregory: Have to say I was 99% unaware of Burton Greene until now. Somehow he was off the radar when I was first starting to explore this music.
	🦀 ♥ 11:00am DJpeterDE: But in other news, it looks like vinyl is overtaking CD for physical releases? And in my record store trip last weekend, overheard a young kid saying, "ooh, I think i'll like this LP because it's 'ROCK' and I like 'ROCK'" (all the 50 year olds in the store died a little bit inside)
	🦀 ♥ 11:00am hyde: @JG yep. i noticed yesterday on Prime (the one sub i have because i don't pay for it) that tons of old kung fu, giallo and other genre stuff i had on my watchlist is now no longer streaming for free. they just up and dropped the licences for hundreds of titles all at once
	♥ 11:00am Jeff Golick: After the ESP stuff, he doesn't really show up on any significant American labels again. Mostly small European outlets.
	🦀 ♥ 11:01am doctorjazz: Same as LG, Greene was a name I knew, but hadn't heard much of his music.
	🦀 ♥ 11:02am Listener Gregory: Burton Greene sounds like the name of a trust-fund kid. That might not have helped.
	🦀 ♥ 11:03am Stork: Sorry, Jeff, had to wrestle the demons of my DSL. Hoping all runs OK tonight. Today's show is kind of a surprise (he wrote, dubiously raising everyone's hopes) The Door to my Den of Dubiousness be here: wfmu.org...
	🦀 ♥ 11:05am doctorjazz: DJpeterDE, I've read that,at least in dollar amounts, vinyl has passed CD. Of course, charging twice as much for vinyl releases does help those numbers (but people are paying twice as much to buy them)
	♥ 11:05am Jeff Golick: Thus: Narada Burton Greene, later on, perhaps, @LG.
	🦀 ♥ 11:09am DJpeterDE: @doc Princeton Record Exchange has added more LP bins, and for those (like me) hunting through for rare OOP LP's, it was a little annoying to have to flip past all sorts of super-pricey new LP's of old music that sells
	♥ 11:09am spodiodi: this is great
	🦀 ♥ 11:13am Stork: I'm seeing some black spots where some of the album cover jpeg's are. Anybody else? Just my shitty connection?
	♥ 11:14am spodiodi: wouldn't have recognized his name before this set, but i'm glad to now know who Burton Greene is. thank you, Jeff Stork, all looks normal here to me
	♥ 11:15am spodiodi: (...and what you're seeing sounds very interesting to me... i don't know that i've ever seen such a thing)
	♥ 11:15am Jeff Golick: My pleasure, @spodiodi. Only sorry it's a sad occasion that brought us here.
	🦀 ♥ 11:16am doctorjazz: @DJpeterDE, haven't been to PREX (what my daughter, who went to TCNJ and bought CDs cheap there called it), curious to get back there one of these days. I LIKE these well pressed, 180 gm reissues, but a recent trip to a record store did exhaust me, have to day.
	♥ 11:17am alanr: late for the show.....but in time for dear Burton. will catch up in the archive later.
	🦀 ♥ 11:17am Stork: This is a lovely tribute, Jeff. I wasn't aware he'd passed, and I don't know enough of his music. Perry Robinson is a gem!
	♥ 11:17am spodiodi: aye, Jeff... rip, Mr. Greene, and thank you
	♥ 11:18am Jeff Golick: Always on time, @alanr! You in NYC now?
	♥ 11:18am alanr: and my eyes immediately watered with each note on the piano....
	♥ 11:18am alanr: sí. Back home in Brooklyn.
	♥ 11:20am Jeff Golick: Nice. Hope you missed the swamp-like conditions last week.
	♥ 11:21am alanr: I arrived for the rain and cooler temps. thanks for asking.
	♥ 11:25am Hams: right on.
	♥ 11:26am Jeff Golick: Oh yeah, @Hams.
	♥ 11:27am alanr: More of Burton appears in the doc "Inside Out In The Open, which will be screened online for all during the 25th annual Vision Festival beginning on July 22.
	♥ 11:29am alanr: youtu.be...
	♥ 11:30am Jeff Golick: Oh, great; thanks for that, @alanr. Will you be in attendance?
	♥ 11:35am alanr: sí. For the festival. You might even find me behind a video cam to help with the streaming. I will also have the new bio of John Tchicai "A Chaos With Some Kind of Order" for sale.
	🦀 ♥ 11:40am WR: was busy so couldn't look at the playlist when the interview audio played. It is from a released ESP album?
	♥ 11:42am Jeff Golick: Yes, @WR. When ESP reissued Greene's first quartet album, they added some interviews with him. Not sure of the date on those, tho.
	♥ 11:43am Jeff Golick: This is the version with the interviews: www.discogs.com...
	♥ 11:49am Andrew in Toronto: Thanks a lot for another great three-hour show!!
	🦀 ♥ 11:50am doctorjazz: Thanks Jeff!
	11:53am Marco Esquandolas: Thanks Jeff. I too had never heard of Burton Greene and really appreciated getting to hear it. Cheers and happy 4th everyone!
	♥ 11:53am spodiodi: thanks, Jeff!
	11:53am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...just too damn squirrels for Comments sometimes these days, it seems - but know that I'm so grateful for this Program.
	♥ 11:53am TDK60: Thanks, Jeff.
	11:54am Revolution Rabbit Nov63: *squirrelly ...oh 'squirrels' is fine...
	♥ 11:54am spodiodi: sounds delicious
	♥ 11:55am Doug Schulkind: I like my hills squirrelly.
	🦀 ♥ 11:55am Stork: Jeff, I feel lousy standing in Serenity's path. Play it for us soon! That Greene remembrance was truly wonderful.
	11:55am rw: TYJG!
	♥ 11:56am I k e: Thanks Jeff!!!
	♥ 11:57am Jeff Golick: Thanks and so happy you were here, @Marco Esquandolas! And you, @Revolution Rabbit! And you, @Ike!
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am hyde: thanks!
	🦀 ♥ 11:57am Narada Listener Gregory: Intriguing show, Jeff. Thanks a lot.
	♥ 11:59am greg g: Thanks for introduction to Burton Greene. Take care
	🦀 ♥ 12:00pm chresti: Thanks Jeff!
	♥ 12:01pm Jeff Golick: Thanks for being here, @TDK60, @spodiodi, @Doug Schulkind, @Stork, @rw, @hyde, @Narada Listener Gregory, @greg g (hello!), @chresti, @Andrew in Toronto, @doctorjazz, and one and all. Bye-ya!
	🦀 ♥ 12:29pm WR: Thank you Jeff!

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