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Options February 17, 2021: The Mountain, A Thieving Horse

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Artist Track Album Label Approx. start time
Montego Joe  Too Much Saki   Options ¡Arriba! Con Montego Joe  Prestige  0:00:00 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Return to Forever  Beyond The Seventh Galaxy   Options Where Have I Known You Before  Polydor  0:14:41 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Chick Corea / Dave Holland / Barry Altschul  A.R.C.   Options A.R.C.  ECM  0:17:50 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Chick Corea  This   Options The Complete "Is" Sessions  Blue Note  0:23:26 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Chick Corea / Miroslav Vitous / Roy Haynes  Trio Improvisation 4   Options Trio Music Live in Europe  ECM  0:31:44 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Return to Forever  So Long Mickey Mouse   Options Musicmagic  Columbia  0:36:09 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Chick Corea  The Gardens   Options My Spanish Heart  Polydor  0:42:16 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Chick Corea  Day Danse   Options My Spanish Heart  Polydor  0:43:58 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Chick Corea  Where Are You Now? (Picture 4)   Options Piano Improvisations Vol. 1  ECM  0:48:22 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Paul Bley Quintet  Around Again   Options Barrage  ESP-Disk  0:59:07 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
New York Art Quartet  No. 6   Options Mohawk  Fontana  1:03:06 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Milford Graves  bi   Options Babi Music  Corbett vs. Dempsey  1:09:41 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Anthony Braxton / Milford Graves / William Parker  Fifth Meeting   Options Beyond Quantum  Tzadik  1:13:31 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Andrew Cyrille & Milford Graves  Call and Response   Options Dialogue of the Drums  IPS  1:18:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Milford Graves  Territorial Moods   Options Stories  Tzadik  1:24:04 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
New York Art Quartet  Visiting Ogun   Options 35th Reunion  DIW  1:27:37 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
Milford Graves  Transcendence   Options Grand Unification  Tzadik  1:31:49 (MP3 | Pop‑up)
George Lewis  Seismologic   Options The Recombinant Trilogy  New Focus  1:43:15 (MP3 | Pop‑up)

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Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:01pm Gary:

Avatar 10:02pm chresti:

Hi Sam and frank horse listeners!
Avatar 10:03pm TDK60:

Hi Sam.
Avatar 10:05pm StringOFperils:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:05pm Sam Segal:

Gary, Chresti, TDK, and String! Thank you for entering the Horse Zone tonight.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:09pm WR:

coming along with y'all, but I'll walk.

didn't know about the Montego Joe recording with Corea & Graves until this week.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16pm Sam Segal:

Trot alongside us, WR! Yeah, it's a fun album. I didn't think a whole of it when I picked it up in the shop, but now it has taken on some added significance in my collection.
Avatar 10:16pm wmbogart:

Hello stablemates! I somehow didn't know about that Montego Joe recording either.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:17pm Sam Segal:

Nice to see you, wmbogart!
Avatar 10:18pm coelacanth∅:

hello Sam and horse thieves
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:18pm Sam Segal:

Another fun fact about Montego Joe: he played drums on Babatunde Olatunji's legendary "Drums of Passion" album.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:19pm Sam Segal:

Who you callin' a horse thief, Coel?!
Avatar 10:20pm TDK60:

I used to dig fusion when I was a young'un, didn't care about the discerners of corn...yet. Then I did; then I didn't.
Avatar 10:20pm coelacanth∅:

y'all! you lose your own horse and start lookin' at mine!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21pm Sam Segal:

@TDK, I think I'm following a similar trajectory in my relationship to corn.
Avatar 10:23pm chresti:

So, where is that photo taken?
Avatar 10:25pm chresti:

That is a nice looking horse with horns, coel.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27pm Sam Segal:

@Chresti, off the island of Maui in 1973.
Avatar 10:28pm TDK60:

Huh, Maui. Sam, hasn't '73 turned up before here?
Avatar 10:29pm chresti:

Thanks Sam.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:33pm Sam Segal:

Probably has, TDK. Most of the images I use are from roughly 1973-1977. They are all taken as part of the EPA's Documerica project, which had a bunch of freelance photographers go out and document environmental conditions across the country.
Avatar 10:33pm TDK60:

That photo of the music wall in Minneapolis was a day in '73, weren't other photos?
Avatar 10:37pm TDK60:

Ah, Documerica. That's a place to find some. Thanks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:37pm Sam Segal:

Can't remember any specific '73 images recently, but I am sure several of them have been over the years. I've been using this archive for my photos since the show started, pretty much.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:38pm Sam Segal:

This is where I draw from: www.archives.gov...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48pm WR:

@Sam @10:16, understandable that you may have been underwhelmed when first listening to the Montego Joe recording. It is not like they are trying to blend in the innovations they are soon to be doing with Ayler & Davis. They were on M. Joe's gig doing his thing.
  10:50pm rw:

Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51pm Sam Segal:

Welcome, rw!
Avatar 10:52pm coelacanth∅:

hey rw
Avatar 10:53pm coelacanth∅:

- watch out for Sam's horse, it's a thief
  10:54pm rw:

coel! Thief horse, huh?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54pm WR:

Here are some phone snapshots I took of Milford Graves' cyber kinetic sculptures at Queens Museum of Art in Jan. 2019.
Avatar 10:58pm wmbogart:

Wow, thank you for sharing those WR! Heard about the exhibit at the time but I'm way over on the other side of the country, I would've loved to see this in person.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:00pm Sam Segal:

Thanks, WR! Kicking myself for not attending this exhibition.
Avatar 11:00pm coelacanth∅:

yeah rw one day you'll get home with a bag of yummy apples and hay, your lovely mare and Sam's horse-thief are nowhere in sight
Avatar 11:04pm coelacanth∅:

this year has been like 2016 so far, with so many musician deaths
Avatar 11:04pm wmbogart:

I really hope some of his LabVIEW heartbeat recordings get released someday. I see they had an excerpt as part of the exhibit but I'm not aware of any public release (but someone please correct me if I'm wrong!)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:05pm WR:

an exhibit of similar works is currently in Baltimore I think and will then be at a NYC gallery this summer.
Avatar 11:11pm coelacanth∅:

WR Thanks for sharing those pix
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13pm Sam Segal:

I still haven't seen the documentary that came out about Milford Graves a few years ago, but I've heard great things.
Avatar 11:18pm chresti:

I'm here, some shifty horse was showing me pictures.
Avatar 11:18pm wmbogart:

If you find the time, I really recommend it. I've watched it a few times since they put it out. He had a lot to teach us, even beyond the incredible musicianship.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:20pm Sam Segal:

I definitely will. I want to learn more about his martial arts practice, which I assume gets covered, given the title of the doc ("Full Mantis").
  11:26pm Dean:

Saw Graves with John Zorn at Vision Festival.

Saw Corea with Return to Forever at the Music Center in LA.

Can't quite get my head around the fact that we're losing these people.
Avatar 11:28pm wmbogart:

It does @Sam. I don't know the first thing about martial arts personally, but I think you'll enjoy it if you do.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:30pm Sam Segal:

Agreed, Dean. When I've seen a musician play live, the loss always feels deeper to me.
Avatar 11:33pm chresti:

That looks like a nice show, thanks WR!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:37pm Doug Schulkind:

Mucho Milford hooray! Thanks, Mr. Segal! I see you started off the show with Montego Joe. Did you know he had a show on WFMU?! His last year was my first at the station, 1987.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:37pm WR:

glad to share. The sculptures are just a facet of his investigation into heartbeat and body electropulse energy.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:39pm doctorjazz:

Hi all! Looks like I have to catch this show in the archived! Here to take it out!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43pm Sam Segal:

Wow, Doug, I had no idea! Did he go by the name Montego Joe on air? Or his given name Roger Sanders?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:43pm Sam Segal:

Doc! Glad you could make it for the tail end live.
  11:44pm Dean:

Interviewed Lewis's spouse, the marvelously eccentric Miya Masaoka, at my apartment near Berkeley many years ago. Later, Lewis assigned a paper I published for one of his classes at Columbia.
Avatar 11:45pm coelacanth∅:

i remember Montego Joe's fmu show. i never considered it was the same Montego Joe!
Avatar 11:46pm coelacanth∅:

greetings doc
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:47pm Sam Segal:

@Dean, I am not familiar with Miya Masaoka's work. Just scanned her wiki page and it looks really interesting. Will have to investigate further.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:47pm doctorjazz:

Hey, Coel, Dean, all toy Equestrians!
  11:49pm Dean:

Miya has few boundaries, musically speaking. A buddy of mine made a movie that briefly featured her, the content deriving from the interview in my apartment.

I really enjoy her Monk tribute with Cyrille and Workman. Saw her in W. Hollywood many years ago.
Avatar 11:50pm wmbogart:

@Dean Wow!!! I'm in an apartment near Berkeley right now, but I've never done anything nearly as cool. Is your interview published anywhere?
  11:51pm Doug Schulkind:

He went by Montego Joe. I can’t say I remember much about his show.
  11:53pm Dean:

@wmbogart, This is one of those amazing circumstances that proves there are no mere coincidences. I'm sure you're listening for many of the same reasons I listen. Thus, we self-select WFMU and Berkeley or environs!

Paper is here: http://www.improvcommunity.ca/sites/improvcommunity.ca/files/research_collection/407/Improvisation_Urban_Planning.pdf
Avatar 11:56pm fun fact∅:

Montego Joe played percussion on cat scratch fever
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:58pm Sam Segal:

Wow, that is a fun fact, Fun Fact!
Avatar 11:59pm wmbogart:

Wow @Dean, this is a super interesting intersection. I'm going to sit down and read through it tonight. I've always felt that Peter Brotzmann is woefully undercited in urban theory.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:01am Sam Segal:

Going to let this piece finish. Feel free to stick with me for another 5 mins.
  12:01am Dean:

The paper was published in the first online issue of an ongoing journal out of Guelph. You might find the connections you seek there.
  12:02am Dean:

George Lewis wrote the introductory piece for that first issue, by the way.
Avatar 12:06am wmbogart:

And I see Pauline Oliveros was in that issue too! Feels like Mills is always represented one way or another.
Avatar 12:07am coelacanth∅:

Thanks Sam! take care stablemates
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:07am doctorjazz:

Thanks, Sam (will catch the rest of the show tomorrow-that's why God pot a space between Testify andv Explorers Room)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 12:07am WR:

out of the shower just in time to say thank you Sam! Laters all.
Avatar 12:08am chresti:

Thanks Sam! Goodnight!
Avatar 8:30am DL in LA:

Stellar Chick Corea set! Thanks Sam!
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