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Options December 14, 2019: For You This Sun

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Artist Track Album Label Year Approx. start time
Clara Rockmore  Sérénade Mélancolique   Options The Art Of The Theremin  Delos  1977  0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
Maryanne Amacher  TEO! - A Four Part Sonic Sculpture Pt 2 Heralds   Options Sound Characters 2 (Making Sonic Spaces)  Tzadik  2008  0:07:50 (Pop‑up)
Walls / Oram  Strange Lines, And Distances   Options Sound Houses  Ecstatic  2014  0:12:38 (Pop‑up)
Steve Roden  For You This Sun   Options   Self-Released  2008  0:16:57 (Pop‑up)
Torba  Intermezzo 759   Options Musique Inconcrète  Fragment Factory  2019  0:34:29 (Pop‑up)
Colin Potter   All Reel   Options A Gain  ICR  1982  0:36:42 (Pop‑up)
Philip Johnson  Holiday Train   Options Radio City  HR Cassettes  1980  0:40:00 (Pop‑up)
Harald Sack Ziegler  Amerika   Options Musack  Scheißkasten Produkt  1986  0:41:57 (Pop‑up)
 
Marco Shuttle  Qatarsi   Options Ritmo Elegante  Spazio Disponibile  2020  0:52:36 (Pop‑up)
Cristian Vogel   Velvetini   Options The Misty Quay  Self-Released  2019  0:59:36 (Pop‑up)
Carlton Doom  Eat Yer Fuckin Trifle   Options ‘Ard  Hypercolour  2019  1:04:32 (Pop‑up)
Computer Juice  Computer Juice   Options Turbo Century III  Turbo  2011  1:09:32 (Pop‑up)
Kraftwerk  Numbers (Nummern)   Options Computer World  Elektra  1981  1:13:38 (Pop‑up)
 
Japan  Gentlemen Take Polaroids   Options Gentlemen Take Polaroids  Virgin  1980  1:29:31 (Pop‑up)
Minimal Compact  Take Me Away   Options One By One  Crammed Discs  1982  1:36:47 (Pop‑up)
Robert Rental  Double Heart   Options Double Heart  Mute  1980  1:39:18 (Pop‑up)
The Headset Junta  Hvit Due I Svart Brn   Options Musikk For De Intime Salonger  Neronastri  1983  1:48:48 (Pop‑up)
Il Guardiano del Faro  Dolci Sogni   Options Domani  RCA  1978  1:49:05 (Pop‑up)
Harry Revel  Fame   Options Perfume Set To Music  RCA Victor  1950  1:52:29 (Pop‑up)
 
End Theme          1:58:57 (Pop‑up)

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:00pm fred:

Good afternoon Mayuko and listenerds
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:00pm rbrt:

helllooooo
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:00pm listener james from westwood:

How do, Mayuko and all!!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:01pm Sem:

Hello, Mayuko, and hiya, fred, rbrt, and ljfw.
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:01pm rbrt:

is this the last pv show?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:02pm chresti:

Good afternoon from the morning!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:02pm Mayuko:

Good afternoon, my radio family fred! Hallos rbrt, and james!
So sad to announce that today's show is my last show of 2019! I wanted to do a pre-recorded show while I'm away in Finland, but that plan fell apart due to my flight schedule.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:03pm Mayuko:

Hi, my radio faimly Sem! Good morning, chresti! Glad to have you all here.
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:04pm billy the fish:

chelsea 0 bournemouth 1
leicester 1 norwich 1
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:05pm listener james from westwood:

A break well earned! Makes for all the more anticipation for the first 2020 show. And Finland!! Excited to hear and see your accounts of travels there.
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:05pm rbrt:

oh I thought you meant forever lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:06pm chresti:

Is the playlist image in Finland?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:06pm ParUbi:

Hello Mayuko & every-1
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:06pm ted tuner:

if i was living in new jersey, id go somewhere warmer for a winter break; like Tampa.
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:06pm chocolate monk:

hey hey
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:07pm Sem:

Intrigued and so went looking: www.thereminworld.com...
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:08pm therapeutic:

not a big theramin fan, me
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:08pm rbrt:

hey chocolate monk I enjoy your show on mixcloud too
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:08pm rbrt:

theremin is my favorite instrument
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:09pm therapeutic:

how did i know u were gonna say that
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:11pm Rich in Washington:

Hi Mayuko! Hi fellow Vertigans!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:12pm Mayuko:

Thanks for tuning in ParUbi!
I agree ted, however making irrational decisions is the only thing that makes us humans irreplaceable in this age of AI!!!!!!!!!!!
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:12pm Marie:

Hi Mayuoko, hi All! Finland--sounds exciting. Down and wool, wool and down...
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:13pm Mayuko:

@chocolate monk Heyy! Thanks for tuning in!
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:13pm therapeutic:

Tampa is pretty irrational
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:13pm Ike:

Finland is gorgeous. And there is very good chocolate there. Enjoy!
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:14pm sam:

there speaks an american tourist
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:15pm Marie:

@ therapeutic---ha!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:15pm Mayuko:

Someone was playing theremin very loud the other day in my neighborhood, the first time it occurred to me to report 311 if it went on for too long despite it being my fav instrument too!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:15pm Mayuko:

Hi Rich, happy to have you here!! Hi Marie, thanks for tuning in!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:17pm Rich in Washington:

A rare Saturday that we don't have the grandkid over, so I'm free to listen to music.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:18pm Mayuko:

@Rich Have you recovered from cold from last week? (or was it 2 weeks ago?)
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:19pm Mayuko:

@Ike I'm excited! In which month were you traveling there?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:19pm fred:

I hope Rego's temporary roommate has been carefully vetted
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:21pm Rich in Washington:

I have recovered, thanks to some pills and sprays. It turned into a nasty sinus infection. Between that and my wife's surgery, I feel like we've moved into hospitals and clinics the last month.
Everyone's on the mend now!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:21pm Mayuko:

@fred Do you mean her bipedal roommate, or quadruped ones???
  🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:21pm JosephB:

Hello Mayuko and vertigo players!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:22pm coelacanth∅))):

Good Morning (sort of) Mayuko & Vertiglowers
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:23pm Mayuko:

@Rich oh I am so sorry that it was a rough month! Glad to hear you all are feeling better now.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:23pm Mayuko:

Good morning, Joe B! Welcome on board, coel!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:23pm Rich in Washington:

You must live in a somewhat cool neighborhood to be awakened by Theremin music! That's much better than what we encounter. Here, it's continuously barking dogs, the sound of chainsaws at 7am, or someone randomly shooting in their back yard.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:25pm Rich in Washington:

I also once had a neighbor who would randomly play the cello. She once said something about it to us, somewhat apologetically, and I said that of all the things one hears out here in the country, cello practice is most welcome (except between 10pm and 7am).
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:26pm Ike:

@Mayuko — June I think, and it still wasn’t very warm at all, heh! (This was many many many years ago, so hopefully the Finnish chocolate makers are all still in business.)
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:27pm Clay:

i have a sneaking suspicion that Mayuko has dreamt of visiting Finland ever since she bought her first smartphone; The Nokia E72
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:28pm Rich in Washington:

This is lovely.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:28pm fred:

@Mayuko: I hope she gets along with the quadrupeds, the biped should be OK if you trust them.
I was actually thinking of her a few hours ago as there was a food drive for rescue cats at my local supermarket
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:30pm Mayuko:

@Rich I felt like that the theremin noise was coming from a cemetery, but not sure.
Chainsaws at 7am is too much!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:31pm Michael 98145:

Greetings, Mayuko, friends.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:31pm Mayuko:

@Ike So I guess it's never get really warm. I'm prepared for the darkness and coldness!!!
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:33pm Clay:

In the south of Finland, u get 6 hours daylight in December
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:33pm coelacanth∅))):

chainsaws at 7am? gunfire at 7am?
maybe the gunfire was someone shooting at the chainsaw player.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:34pm fred:

...and the Moomin museum?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:34pm coelacanth∅))):

Mayuko is that < one of your creations?
to me it looks like it'd have to be the moon, not the sun, because of the lighting.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:34pm Rich in Washington:

Theremin from the Cemetery sounds like a bargain basement halloween CD you could buy. In fact, I'd probably buy it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:35pm chresti:

Haha coel-shoot the chainsaw player
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:35pm rbrt:

@rich lol
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:36pm coelacanth∅))):

...oh yeah, finland sun.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:37pm coelacanth∅))):

chresti isn't that an Elton John album? "don't shoot me i'm only the chainsaw player"?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:38pm chresti:

Leaf blowers wake us up sometimes, and parrots, firecrackers, gunshots, once in a while
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:39pm Mayuko:

Thanks for tuning in, Michael 98145!!
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:40pm Marie:

I feel like Mayuko's shows are like a journey into the mystic... at least the ones I have listened to so far--I'm kind of a Play Vertigo newbie
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:40pm chresti:

I wear earplugs at night because Franco snores like a chainsaw.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:40pm coelacanth∅))):

when i was dating someone on the upper east side of manhatten it was car alarms, horns honking, people rummaging through the dumpster outside and sirens.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:41pm ParUbi:

R-a-d-i-o
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:42pm Marie:

I used to live just below (alongside) an elevated train (the CTA) in Chicago for a while. I totally got used to it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:42pm chresti:

When we lived in Pasadena, it was police helicopters
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:42pm coelacanth∅))):

{boing boing boing boing}
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:42pm melinda:

hi Mayuko and all
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:43pm chresti:

..and car alarms
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:44pm Michael 98145:

@chresti, ah, yes. helicopter sweeps really are a thing in LA county.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:44pm coelacanth∅))):

that doesn't surprise me chresti, in the la area
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:44pm Sem:

Here it's shipwrights replacing hull planking on scallop draggers. Starts at first light, so, summer mornings...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:44pm chresti:

STEP AWAY FROM THE VEHICLE!
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:45pm rbrt:

I love this Amerika song!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:45pm ParUbi:

At night where I live, sometimes you'll hear a lonesome train in the distance.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:47pm fred:

Until a few years ago, I would often be waken up by crows (I don't even hear cars anymore). Sadly, they don't hang out here anymore. But I read that the playground downstairs will be renovated, so maybe they'll put back a slide. The crows liked to play on it
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:48pm chocolate monk:

aw,,, i liked yr christmas tree rants!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:48pm coelacanth∅))):

once there was a car parked right in front of where we hung out with the alarm going off incessantly -one that freaked out if you got close to the car. eventually a few of us got on the roof of the car and danced.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:52pm chresti:

Those kind of alarms always cracked me up, the talking ones.
I love train sounds!
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:52pm Clay:

some people have zero respect for other peoples property
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:53pm chresti:

Haha
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:53pm rbrt:

hope you have a good trip Mayuko, I thought you meant you were leaving FOREVER lol
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:54pm Marie:

I always thought it would be fun to take a high-powered shotgun and to shoot a car whose alarm was bleeping incessantly, until it stopped
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:55pm northguineahills:

@rbt: I thought the same thing, phew!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:55pm coelacanth∅))):

ParUbi i used to love that...an experience from my teenage years. about a mile away but very clear in the middle of the night.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:56pm coelacanth∅))):

clay -disrespect earns disrespect. Fuck that asshole.
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:56pm Marie:

I always thought a very lonesome sound is that of jets flying over at night
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:57pm chresti:

@coel
  Sat. 12/14/19 12:57pm JakeGould:

Hey Mayuko!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:57pm Mayuko:

@Clay 6 hours! and I've been told that the sunrise/sunset take much longer time than they do here! I'm curious to see how that sun will affect me.
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 12:58pm Jesse Kaminsky:

hi hi!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:58pm Mayuko:

Hi melinda! Thanks for tuning in!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 12:58pm chresti:

@12:48
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 12:58pm coelacanth∅))):

Marie i like that idea but it may take a long long time and many many rounds. maybe a small bomb would work better!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:00pm melinda:

I love black tea, wish I could drink it all day but 1 pm is my cutoff point.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:00pm fred:

The last time I spent a night out of a big city, I was disturbed by a constant weird noise. I eventually figured it was the lack of background traffic noise
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:00pm Marie:

@ coel--I would love to see that (laugh). I wonder if anyone has ever shown that in a movie, or something like that
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:00pm Mayuko:

@chocolate monk Haha! I even had some new materials to add to the rants this year, but I have to do it in 2020!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:01pm chresti:

Long ago when I lived in LA, I looked out the window and saw a bunch of kids climbing allover my VW bug, I yelled at them, that was my car alarm.
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:01pm Marie:

@Melinda--me too, with raw honey and a lot of milk :>)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:01pm coelacanth∅))):

chresti our feeling was if he/she was going to selfishly destroy our ambience we'd just work with it!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:02pm Mayuko:

@rbrt Thanks! Even if I suddenly decide to stay there forever (kinda like I did here in NYC) I could still do my show anyway, haha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:03pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello, Mayuko and vertigo-getters.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:04pm Mayuko:

@Marie at 12:54 I think now I see why you started to listen to my show! (Which I am glad you did)
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:04pm rbrt:

@fred that and a lack of light pollution are usually the two shockers!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:04pm chresti:

Marie, add cardamon and you got chai.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:04pm coelacanth∅))):

chresti that pisses me off, people messing with your car when it's undeserved.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:05pm fred:

@rbrt: right, so many stars
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:05pm Mayuko:

Hi ngh!! Thanks for tuning in!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:06pm Mayuko:

Hi Jake! Hellos Jesse!!!!!!!!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:06pm coelacanth∅))):

mmm black tea with honey (no milk) i had it yesterday somewhere between 4 and 6 pm and i was awake until >4 am.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:07pm Mayuko:

Welcome, Ken from HP!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:08pm melinda:

I use agave in tea so it doesn't interfere with the flavor. I love honey on toast though.
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:10pm Marie:

I am an ignoramus about chai--chai and I don't go way back--very interesting about the agave...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:10pm chresti:

The long sunrise/sunset sounds interesting to me
  🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:11pm JosephB:

@Mayuko Are you going to the Moomin theme park?
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:12pm rbrt:

com pu ter juice!
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:12pm rbrt:

it sounds like something from the 90's
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:13pm Barnaby:

Hey Mayuko, listening live again iso the archive
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:14pm coelacanth∅))):

i put maple syrup in my irish tea once when the café was out of honey. i'll never make that mistake again
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:14pm chresti:

Marie, if you have any Indian snack shoppes nearby, you'll find chai
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:16pm Marie:

i've been out and about on days when it is seriously subzero and the quality of light and the sky and the clouds are all unique to that (in December and January in Chicago)--it's really cool to see, uniquely beautiful. Probably Finland isn't that cold but will have its own unique and beautiful conditions (of course)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:16pm coelacanth∅))):

i don't much like chai tea. i like all the ingredients though!
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:17pm Marie:

You know, chesti, I've had it, and I am not a big fan--tastes kine of like cereal to me
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:17pm Mayuko:

@Joe B Oh yeah, if I don't go there my Japanese citizenship will be revoked. It's an obligation for a Japanese tourist in Finland.
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:17pm northguineahills:

you should do tai chi while drinking chai tea....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:17pm chresti:

I imagine the sky is a highlight main attraction in Finland
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:18pm Sem:

www.timebie.com...
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:18pm Mayuko:

Hi, happy to have you listening live, Barnaby!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:18pm melinda:

I think agave also has a lower glycemic index.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:18pm coelacanth∅))):

haha
- ngh i don't think there's any way around it!
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:19pm northguineahills:

You're going to hear a lot of "perkele" once you get there, Mayuko!
  🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:19pm JosephB:

@Mayuko Hahaha
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:20pm Marie:

@ngh--I like eating yogurt while I do yoga...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:21pm chresti:

I'm interested in making a "chai" with cannabis, I'm not crazy about sweet chai
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:22pm coelacanth∅))):

Jake, if you're still here -does baby yoda do yoga while eating yogurt?
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:22pm Ike:

I loved the architecture in Finland although I know virtually zero about architecture.
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:22pm Marie:

@ chresti--what about using mushrooms?
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:23pm northguineahills:

@coel: TBH in full disclosure, I first heard that as a lyric in a dancehall bass track.

@Marie: You should eat yogurt in a toga when doing yoga in Saratoga....
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:24pm Ike:

If you need cheap decaf black tea, try decaf Luzianne. It is surprisingly good American stuff. Normally I do not drink the tea of my native land but that’s a solid one.
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:25pm Jesse Kaminsky:

I've been thinking about this AI/art thing a lot, I feel like within ten years there will be an AI on faculty at an art school somewhere.
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:26pm rbrt:

we will all be replaced
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:26pm Art Garfuchdel:

are we really having this discussion, guys?
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:26pm Marie:

@ngh--:>)....I can't add to that...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:26pm coelacanth∅))):

that shit should be abolished.
what the fuck is wrong with people?
(oh, that's right, they've been brainwashed)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:27pm melinda:

@Ike all the decaf tea I've tried sucks ass, it just doesn't retain the tea flavor. I haven't tried Luzianne though.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:27pm Ken From Hyde Park:

^^^^ Literally the source of Neghbors Noise.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:29pm melinda:

Douglas Rushkoff's Team Human podcast has been an inspiration to me in terms of resisting the idea that humans are completely replaceable.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:29pm fred:

Sony researchers have pretty serviceable AI-generated crap music, for commercials and such. The main thing for them is that AIs don't get royalties. Someone should sneak the idea of unions into training sets
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:31pm Marie:

I say to AI fanatics, watch "Airplane" (the movie) or any Mel Brooks movie and know that we are NOT replaceable!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:33pm chresti:

People will be mad as hell and won't take it anymore, (re-AI)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:35pm coelacanth∅))):

i gave up on the idea of ever finding a decaf tea that's worth drinking.
a few years ago i tried "scottish breakfast tea" by taylor's of harrogate (sp?) and it's so robust and so delicious; and they also make my favorite green tea w/jasmine...so i thought if anyone makes a decaf that's good it'd be them.
it turned out to be the case. not the same of course, but worth having.
...i might have to check out this luzianne though.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:35pm Mayuko:

@Jesse K And it'll be all on VR!!!
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:36pm Marie:

right after this most excellent show ends, I am going for a long run amidst a lot trees (and other things not so natural)
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:36pm The Art Of Tea:

Typhoo tea is far superior
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:38pm chresti:

Pu-erh
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:39pm Jeff Golick:

Hi, Mayuko, and fellow listenerds.

Re AI, I've been reading this book THE AGE OF SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM (the subject of a Mark Hurst show), and I fear for our future. But I'm generally a pessimist.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:39pm fred:

Sadly, most of what Mayuko said make us unique apply quite a bit to AI as well. They're highly dependent on personal experience (aka training sets, which is why results are so hard to reproduce), they learn a lot from failure and adversity (adversarial networks are big these days). What they lack when it comes to art is a connection to us, the social, unmentioned side of it that is a kind of language without words.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:41pm Mayuko:

@fred but do they have feelings for those experiences yet?
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:41pm Mayuko:

like fear for dying, aging, losing someone, etc...
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:43pm northguineahills:

I feel the code that made any AI that autonomously creates 'art' is more of the art itself then the actual product labelled as 'art'.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:43pm coelacanth∅))):

hi Jeff. there's a fashionable term for that -"philosophical pessimism". it's not actual pessimism, but knowing how bad things are.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:43pm Mayuko:

@fred I guess that's what personally connect us to each other, like you said. > a connection to us
  🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:43pm JosephB:

What we need is an AI that can come up with the perfect decaf tea
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:44pm fred:

Probably not, there are primitive things for now, really. But if they did, how could we know? We're having a hard time answering these for most animals, especially wild ones and non-mammals
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:44pm northguineahills:

I need a large meal before I drink tea, otherwise it makes me nauseous, and I LOVE tea...
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:44pm Mayuko:

@Jeff G The future sounded pretty bad in the program indeed!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:45pm coelacanth∅))):

the thing about "ai" is: there's no reason for it. it doesn't and will never make our world better.
it can only make the world worse.
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:45pm northguineahills:

@coel: It's called being a realist... now, time to get ready to break my back doing manual labor so I can make my bread, and no, I don't work in a colliery town in the 19th century....
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:46pm chresti:

You're a realist, @Jeff
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:46pm coelacanth∅))):

Joseph B okay, then i'll accept ai!
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:46pm Mayuko:

@fred yeah! You reminded me of the news I saw, think it was this one (can't open and confirm at the moment, but...) www.japantimes.co.jp...
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:47pm Mayuko:

@Joe B THAT definitely is the bright side of our future.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:47pm Michael 98145:

@coel, no thing so bad it cannot be made worse
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:48pm northguineahills:

chresti and I jinxed each other to two separate comments...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:48pm Jeff Golick:

Gathering rosebuds...
  🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:48pm JosephB:

@Mayuko I wish I had known about this robot priest when I was in Kyoto! I wanna see that!
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:48pm rbrt:

"“This robot will never die; it will just keep updating itself and evolving,” said priest Tensho Goto. “That’s the beauty of a robot. It can store knowledge forever and limitlessly" :o
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:49pm coelacanth∅))):

Michael that's the harsh realism.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:49pm fred:

AI perfecting decaf would be a step to independence, cutting off the energy supply of their human overlords. An ominous sign for our species
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:50pm melinda:

@coel I love their Scottish Breakfast tea, thanks for the tip. (Their Irish Breakfast is sort of bland).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:50pm coelacanth∅))):

"the beauty of a robot"...
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:51pm rbrt:

I mean robots might not be all bad, I welcome our new friends └[•‿•]┐
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:52pm coelacanth∅))):

melinda i agree. my favorite tea is lyon's green box irish tea.
and as a bonus i respect the company!
  🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:52pm JosephB:

@fred good point
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:52pm fred:

@Mayuko: I remember you mentioning a temple in Tokyo with blunt predictions. Maybe a robot delivering these would fit there
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:53pm melinda:

I'm drinking Tazo English Breakfast these days.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:54pm melinda:

Caffeinated beverages have powered much of human culture. I hear Adderall usage is pretty common now too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:55pm chresti:

Haha ngh! AI still can't help my typing speed
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:55pm Michael 98145:

isn't religion after all just an AI ?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:55pm coelacanth∅))):

people are very childish with this notion of making life better and better with convenience and safety and less work. there are very few logical applications for robots.
(disarming bombs comes to mind; and maybe some surgical procedures...)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:56pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks for the show today, Mayuko. Have a good end-of-year. See you in 2020!
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:56pm Therapeutic:

Well, i suppose now that u mention it, the theramin isnt that bad afterall.
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:56pm Sem:

What Ken^ said!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:56pm Michael 98145:

many of these "disruptive" technologies come about because they have military applications.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:56pm listener james from westwood:

Many thanks, Mayuko, and safe travels!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:57pm Michael 98145:

see you next year, Mayuko. thank you.
  🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:57pm JosephB:

Have a great trip Mayuko! Travel safe and see you in the next decade!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:57pm fred:

Thanks Mayuko, enjoy you trip!
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:57pm billy the fish:

Southampton 0 West Ham 1 (latest score)
Avatar Sat. 12/14/19 1:57pm rbrt:

thanks Mayuko! see ya next year
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:58pm Dave in Vermont on the phone:

Thanks for being with us Mayuko. Happy new year.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 1:58pm coelacanth∅))):

damn. Thanks Mayuko! have a fun, interesting and safe journey! and enjoy your time away.
we'll miss you!
tchau
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:58pm Michael 98145:

strength thru failure !
  🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:58pm JosephB:

The robot priest IS the ultimate statement of human imperfection!
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:58pm Marie:

Great show, M--bon voyage!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:58pm ParUbi:

Happy holidays! Happy New Year!
  Sat. 12/14/19 1:59pm Katsuko:

Thanks Mayuko, have a nice trip to Finland.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:59pm chresti:

The people that like the convenience and safety and less work, are the ones that will need AI to take care of them when they become infirm
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 1:59pm melinda:

thanks Mayuko!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 2:00pm coelacanth∅))):

everyone enjoy your tea
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 2:00pm chresti:

Thanks Mayuko, have a great time in Finland!
  Sat. 12/14/19 2:00pm The Art Of Tea:

...only if it's got an 'oo, like Tyhpoo
Avatar Swag For Life Member Sat. 12/14/19 2:02pm coelacanth∅))):

(the art of trolling)
Avatar 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 2:03pm Mayuko:

Thanks again everyone for listening and commenting!!! Look forward to being back on the radio and see you all in 2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  Sat. 12/14/19 2:03pm Jill:

enjoy your 3 weeks off Mayuko!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Sat. 12/14/19 11:33pm WR:

Archive listen. Thank you for sharing music and your thoughts. Safe and interesting winter trip to Finland. 2020 coming soon, looking forward with joy with WFMU listening family.
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