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Options June 24, 2019: Scott Urban, "privacy eyewear" designer

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This week: Scott Urban, "privacy eyewear" designer



Tonight, Chicago-based artist Scott Urban, inventor of what he calls "privacy eyewear": anti-surveillance glasses that defeat facial recognition.

Links to Scott Urban:

Reflectacles, Scott's line of privacy eyewear (two types: IRpair and Phantom)

Kickstarter: IRpair & Phantom - Privacy Eyewear, the Kickstarter campaign that launched today, June 24

Urban Spectacles, Scott's custom-built (wood) eyewear that he made for several years before starting on privacy eyewear

Tech news

Tim Cook's Stanford commencement speech (June 16)

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  Chicago-based artist Scott Urban used to spend his time handcrafting custom-made eyeglass frames. Then a few years ago, he started noticing the spread of surveillance cameras throughout his neighborhood. So he invented what he calls "privacy eyewear": anti-surveillance glasses that defeat facial recognition.
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Listener comments!

Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 5:57pm BigCat:

Hey TekChronics !!!!
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:01pm Guido from Cologne:

Loved the Show
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:01pm ultradamno:

Hello Mark! Techrosopagnosians!

In the new Luther series there is a killer that disguises himself with a mask coupled with a hoodie fringed with LED lights, purportedly to distort surveillance cameras. Is that a thing? Here's a pic twitter.com...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:01pm BigCat:

I am a TekChronic addikt
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:02pm listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:02pm Bas NL:

Hi Mark! Hi Techtonicanonimae!
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:03pm melinda:

Hiya techtons
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:04pm Ike:

I would be surprised if anything in Luther was remotely accurate -- that show hasn't been good since season 1.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:06pm geezerette:

BigCat, "TekChronics"! :)

Howdy, Mark and all!
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:07pm BigCat:

skip the eyewear — Mark, just carry a can of SPRAYPAINT??
no
offence, Mr. Urban
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Focus on Eyes - like we do ???
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:08pm BigCat:

@geezerette LOL
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:08pm Bas NL:

Google just announced they'll open up a second datacenter in my home country.. A one billion Euro one.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:10pm geezerette:

He sounds sincere!
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:10pm BigCat:

Tim CROOK is just diversioning crApple's complicity
wadda douchebag
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:11pm BigCat:

Please stop this audio, Mr. Mark
I just ate dinner
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:11pm geezerette:

This warning would've been more appropriate 25 years ago.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:12pm CC:

It's like radio waves... internet waves that are floating around out there are up for grabs...fair game... don't put them out there unless you want them repeated!!!...simple!!...:)O(:
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:12pm chresti at work:

Hi Mark and Techtoniacs!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

OK - so he's not Zuckerbird ... It characterizes being 'Political' to say the Right Thing & do something else ...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:14pm ultradamno:

Apple changes you thought patterns and gives you bone spurs fortune.com...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:15pm geezerette:

Wonder what woke him up beside Zuckerberg?
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:15pm Fredericks:

Someone called for a Wild-haired privacy advocate from the hinterlands?
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:16pm BigCat:

Nooooooo!!!!
TekChronics, Mark has been
hip-mo-t'eyes'd by Tim Crook!!!!
Mark,
I'm calling out crAPPLE.
They are liable for MPT's (Male Programmer Tendencies)
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:18pm ultradamno:

didn't really like that Black Mirror ep. It was OK, I guess, up until the gunman actually talks to Topher Grace at which point every issue they wanted to hit gets vomited out very quickly in the most two-dimensional way possible
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:19pm BigCat:

Zuck intended to get his rocks off (sorry, PG-13)
cf. Facesmash
Apple intended to control human thought and behavior — from the outset.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:20pm geezerette:

Road to Hell is paved with...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:20pm CC:

There is no controlling human nature... it always takes over at a certain point!!!...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:20pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The College Dorm was not the Immaculate Manger eh?
It's Apple that wants your thumbprint to log in...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:21pm BigCat:

@geezerette
Road to Hell is paved with DEAD SOULS.
:-0
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:22pm Ken From Hyde Park:

How about Google's Chrome browser being surveillance software? www.investmentwatchblog.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:22pm Bas NL:

Apple is not as bad... Mark.. take a break.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:22pm CC:

I like Android type stuff it's a lot easier...like 'kid' simple!!!...hehehe...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:22pm BigCat:

@CC
"human nature" is an oxymoron
we are not "natural" because we change our course of history deliberately
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:23pm sim:

Silicon Valley used to be a maker industry. Now it is an extraction industry. It extracts information. It stripmines attention.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:23pm geezerette:

Tell us these glasses will not be confiscated by TSA .
Tell us we won't be put on a list or interrogated for wearing them.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:23pm BigCat:

NEW VIDEO COMING SOON:

"Men Behaving Badly: The Tech Years"
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Wow sim !
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:24pm Rich in Washington:

My wife and I watched the popstar episode and thought it was going to go down this path of the privacy of that device, but it didn't. [don't wanna spoil anything]
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:25pm BigCat:

No, @Listener Robert — it's not in this show's format.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:25pm JakeGould:

Hey Mark! In the new “Child’s Play” movie, Chucky (that doll) is AI driven. Meaning instead of being possessed by the soul of a murderer, Chuck is an AI that is endlessly learning about the world around him… And decides that all that he sees in humanity leads to murder.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:25pm ultradamno:

I like the Rudolph graphic.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:27pm Fredericks:

Fake miracles for just a drop of saliva.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:27pm JakeGould:

What is up with the leek?
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:27pm CC:

I still feel like the most important thing right now... and into the future ...is never ruling out possibilities!!!...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:28pm BigCat:

I'm sorry, as a Male (for now, at least) "reflecticles" is making me nervous, glandularly speaking .........
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

I'd ask to quote you on facplant sim but... this Program...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:28pm BigCat:

@Jake Gould the leek works at the White House admin ha
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Ah : factcheck.afp.com...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:30pm geezerette:

Scott Urban's designs really are beautiful! And not made of plastic.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:32pm CC:

I was surfing around the other day and I saw a web page that said that as far as fingerprints go... buttholes are the same way...there are no two butt holes that look alike!!!... I swear to Buddha!!...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:33pm ultradamno:

I think Larry Flynt said that...
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:33pm sim:

IR blasters for privacy.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:35pm Sam:

And there’s no way to just ban these fucking cameras??
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:35pm JakeGould:

Facial recognition is one thing, but what about store security cameras on steroids: 3D and AI driven “people counting” systems: “SenSource people counter solutions are comprised of a sensing unit and our Vea analytics reporting platform. With the power of 3D video and artificial intelligence (AI), SenSource people counters measure footfall, track and count individuals entering, exiting and dwelling with precision. Our technology and services guarantee accuracy of 97% or greater and reliability, even in high traffic environments.” www.sensourceinc.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:35pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Because Tech & A.I. are not going to continue rapidly expanding & developing...
(Even Quantum qubits that can Decode anything quickly...)
Because Wisdom will overcome Greed & Shortsightedness in every instance...
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:35pm sim:

But what about your emissions footprint? Your phone, your smartwatch, your bluetooth earbuds?
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:36pm JakeGould:

“In many retail applications, children are not true buying opportunities and skew conversion rate. The child exclusion filter uses height to exclude, or count separately, people from the data set.”
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Do EnChroma glasses do anything for him?
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:37pm ultradamno:

So like A Very Long Engagement?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:38pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Wasn't a pair of Reflectacles the marathon prize this year?
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:38pm sim:

Er, the only thing that will slow technical advance is a worldwide economic collapse. The only thing that would stop it is a hard reset. Like a five 9 dieback.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:38pm JJ NY-SC:

Are these spectacles made to be worn over your prescription glasses? Or do you get them with your own prescription built in? Inquiring minds want to know.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:39pm convoy_pt2:

Car LED headlights!!! Killing our eyes
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:39pm geezerette:

Scott just reminded me of "The Man Who Fell to Earth"; eye-scanning sequence.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:39pm BigCat:

@sim —— getting warmer
mayb the only thing is abstinence/boycott/refusal
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:40pm JakeGould:

Geek raps about Blu Blockers. youtu.be...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:40pm Mark Hurst:

Hi all! Thanks for the comments. Yes, KenfHP, Techtonic's marathon 2019 included a pair of Phantom Reflectacles.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:41pm sim:

One radical idea is removing all privacy. No privileged users allowed. The rich who own everything, their companies, all info free for all.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:42pm gracegold:

so tru
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:42pm geezerette:

Corporations ARE our government. They call the shots.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:42pm melinda:

@JJ I was wondering the same thing. But like geezerette was suggesting, I worry that TSA won't tolerate them, in which case you'd need a spare to board a plane.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:42pm Fredericks:

Five 9 dieback? Is that a forest related term, Sim?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ * Digital Bill of Rights * ~
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:43pm sim:

All politicians, all authority, their enforcers... all open.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:43pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Yurp - Oligarchy.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:43pm gracegold:

want to know all about laypeople without letting laypeople know all about those within big tech. unease indeed.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:44pm Fredericks:

Maybe they make these as contact lenses.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:44pm CC:

Privacy is stil free...so far!!!...:)0(:
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:44pm ultradamno:

I hear living is easy with eyes closed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:45pm Rich in Washington:

My friend used the 'frog slowly being boiled alive' analogy on FB and her post was flagged as hate speech and removed. Not kidding.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:45pm Marie:

Did anyone see the article in the Washington Post about the ton (11,000) tracking cookies that Google Chrome placed on this one user's computer in a very short time?
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:46pm sim:

TEOTWAWKI term. 99.999%. Five nines.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:46pm Rich in Washington:

We think that because she had a couple of other sarcastic comments and it was regarding nationalism, it garnered a bunch of red flags.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:46pm CC:

Google wouldn't be half as powerful as they are right now unless they had acquired Alta Vista back in the 90s???
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:47pm JakeGould:

Slow cooked frog… Mmmm…
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:47pm P-90:

Interesting interview.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:49pm Marie:

Vanilla Sky, man
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:49pm sim:

@CC. Google didn't acquire Alta Vista. Alta Vista used boolean operators to find webpages...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Slow cooked frog is useful analog I think!
Idea that what we want it for & what they want it for are NOT the same... Bait & Switch Capitalism...
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:49pm ultradamno:

That spatula doesn't help, I can totally recognize that's Björk
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:50pm CC:

I'm sorry I thought that I read Google bought out Alta Vista???
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:50pm melinda:

I've been thinking of the slow-cooked frog analogy lately, too.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:51pm ultradamno:

The lights on trucks are especially brutal, it's like they're set at high beam as default.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:51pm sim:

... Google used people's links to other websites to find websites. They recognized that people recognized what was useful and what wasn't. Their algos extracted that info.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:51pm JakeGould:

AltaVista was purchase by Yahoo! and then after that happened they forced AltaVista to use Yahoo!’s indexing system. Google has always been technically adept on their own.
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:52pm ultradamno:

Saga of Altavista digital.com...
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:54pm Big Cat:

burkas are starting to seem less oppressive than I once thought??
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:54pm CC:

Anyway... I always used to go to Alta Vista as my preferred search engine...back in the day..
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:54pm geezerette:

Another great show,Mark! Thanks again!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:54pm Jeff Moore:

Keyword: sousveillance.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:55pm gracegold:

LED lights NEED TO GO
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:56pm Rich in Washington:

Thanks, Mark!
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 6:56pm CC:

remember...we wouldn't even be able to access any kind of Internet unless the men in the shadows wanted us to!!!...
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:56pm P-90:

TekThanks
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:56pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:58pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Mark. Can you count up how many different cameras track you during the course of your trip?
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:58pm sim:

We could all migrate to the TOR network.
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:59pm JJ NY-SC:

From the Kickstarter website: "Reflectacles are designed to allow you to remove and replace the lenses at any time. If you would like the standard lenses swapped for your prescription, a local optical shop would be able to accommodate you."
  Mon. 6/24/19 6:59pm sim:

Ah, DEC Unix...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 6/24/19 6:59pm Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone!
Avatar Mon. 6/24/19 7:00pm CC:

It ain't nighttime here yet so I got my regular Spectacles on!!!
  Mon. 6/24/19 7:04pm grace:

amen
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