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Options November 5, 2018: Ava Kofman, from The Intercept, on LinkNYC kiosks

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Salesforce Tower in San Francisco dressed up for Halloween. (source)


This week: Ava Kofman, journalist at The Intercept, on LinkNYC kiosks.

Links to Ava's work:

Ava on Twitter: @eyywa

Tumblr of Ava's writing

Are New York's Free LinkNYC Internet Kiosks Tracking Your Movements? (The Intercept, Sep 8)

Bruno Latour, the Post-Truth Philosopher, Mounts a Defense of Science (NYT, Oct 25)

.....and btw, for a fun activity, check out Link.NYC and see if you can figure out who's behind the project. Maybe you'll find Intersection... but can you find a mention of Sidewalk Labs?

Recent News

• Ultradamno has had a death in the family but writes "if I don't make it live, due to circumstances, it's Votechtoners."

PBS Frontline: The Facebook Dilemma. Here's the WSJ review, saying the documentary is "aggressive, indignant, illuminating... [showing] the blissfully amoral way a social-media site has morphed into a sociopolitical evil. But what viewers will also come away with is a sense of something else - something entirely relevant to the situation: That Mark Zuckerberg is the worst company spokesman in the history of corporate America. If he told you the sky was blue, you’d wonder what his agenda was."

After this story from last week........

• From Business Insider (Oct 26): "The New York Times has exposed a culture of sexual harassment at Google, in a report claiming that former executive Andy Rubin was paid $90 million in an exit package after a credible sexual misconduct accusation. Other male executives at Google had consensual and non-consensual workplace relationships, according to the report, and all were protected by the company... Google's chief executive, Sundar Pichai, has admitted the company has a harassment problem and told employees that the firm had fired 48 employees for sexual misconduct over the last two years. Thirteen of the 48 were senior managers or above, and were not given an exit package, he said."

.........Google employees walked out last Thursday, Nov 1, with this letter of demands. My response, posted here: The real walkout is when they say "I refuse to build a surveillance state" and quit their job at Google.

• From Did Uber Steal Google’s Intellectual Property? (New Yorker, October 22), quoting ex-Google engineer Anthony Levandowski:



• Tomorrow is election day in the US. Vote. Chris Hedges in Eugene, OR (Oct 3): "We cannot sever ourselves from the wisdom of the past. That's our patrimony, that's our heritage."

NoMoreGoogle.com: Privacy-friendly alternatives to Google that don't track you


Spotted on one of Google's LinkNYC sidewalk-surveillance kiosks: unregistered software.


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  Mark interviews Ava Kofman, journalist at The Intercept, on LinkNYC kiosks.
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  Mark's intro      
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  Interview with Ava Kofman from The Intercept      
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  Your calls and comments 201-209-9368      
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The Pink Tiles  Internet   Options #1 Fan (LP)  No label    0:55:42 (MP3 | )

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:01pm listener james from westwood:

<—"There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful."
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:02pm Bas NL:

Mark! Markonians!
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:03pm melinda:

Hello! I'm wearing my Techtonic t-shirt today!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:04pm βrian:

I canna believe I made it. Bonsoir.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:05pm northguineahills:

Marking Tects!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:05pm TDK60:

Those Link monoliths are so quaint.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:05pm chris:

hello, Mark and the informed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:05pm northguineahills:

err... Techts!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:05pm Rich in Washington:

BRAAAP!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:05pm Webhamster Henry:

Hi Techtones
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:06pm Folsom:

The LinkNYU kiosks in poorer parts of NYC that won't have advertisements won't get the fast speeds, need to advertise to get the good speeds.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:06pm βrian:

TechTots? TechTocks?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:06pm chris:

much love out to ultradamno and family
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:06pm geezerette:

Howdy, Mark & all.
I.m fill out my ballot...:0

Ultra, so sorry! Condolences.
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:06pm Craig and Ed in Glasgow:

hi
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:07pm TDK60:

vo-tech-toners / sorry to hear ultradamno.
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:07pm geezerette:

uh...filling...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:07pm listener james from westwood:

Dearest condolences, Ultradamno.
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:07pm liXiviated life:

By far the best tech show on the air
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:07pm sufferwords:

scare me tech sage
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:07pm Aitch:

Great show always. Please vote Americans, the rest of us are scared.
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:07pm Roland from Australia:

Looking forward to Today’s episode, I work in a large Christian school in Australia. I’m responsible for a significant investment in Apple and Google technology over the past 10 years so naturally some of the topics explored in these episodes are challenging.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:08pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Check it out, Technotrobes! Last night's Simpsons episode dealt with some high-tech issues: tv.avclub.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:08pm Michael 98145:

i believe we have you to thank for drawing our attention to that Frontline series illuminating FB
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:09pm geezerette:

Brian! TechTocks !!! :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:09pm Michael 98145:

@Aitch, if you are scared, think how WE feel
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:10pm mrdonutsu:

There was an online petition to get Salesforce to do this. I signed it.
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:10pm JeremyB:

How did the eye costume not go completely viral?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:10pm mrdonutsu:

www.change.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:10pm northguineahills:

Exactly what Michael said....
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:11pm geezerette:

Michael, no kidding!!! {:(
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:11pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...see - you can't use the One Ring for Good...& if you destroy it - the Three Rings of the Elven Kings go down too
...it's complicated...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:11pm Rich in Washington:

I noticed that the Facebook Dilemma first episode popped up on my YouTube feed last night, as well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:12pm Carmichael:

Ironically, the LinkNYC page advertises "secure internet browsing".
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:12pm geezerette:

heh heh, RevRab!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:14pm Bas NL:

We had Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on a visit in our country this week. He suggested Big Tech should not fight each other but each should contribute to help the customer... That's nice!
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:15pm geezerette:

WSJ would know.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:15pm northguineahills:

What, even compared to Cornelius Vanderbilt?
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:16pm liXiviated life:

Anyone hear anything about The Ring? Doorbell video device?
Pro or con
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:17pm wolfg:

u r not serious
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:18pm wolfg:

it is right to speak out against sexual violence
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:18pm βrian:

I still want help to hack my garage door wifi interface. There's no way I'd use it via a corporate site.
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:19pm wolfg:

but this sounds noam chomsky idiocy
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:19pm Phil with the phone:

7 DAYSSSSSSS
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:19pm liXiviated life:

Mark, the ability to quit your job is a luxury.
Not easy for all to do.
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:20pm wolfg:

like noam chomsky idiocy
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:21pm wolfg:

the world is owned by facebook
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:21pm βrian:

Yes, he really *doesn't* know why we study history.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:21pm TDK60:

..history is radical, that's why they want you to forget.
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:23pm geezerette:

Like Dubya said,"I don't worry too much about history, we'll all be dead. (chuckle)",
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:24pm wolfg:

Jesus fucking christ
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:24pm JeremyB:

Just remember, Republicans vote on Wednesday. Donald Trump Jr said so!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:25pm βrian:

I mean, how can anybody presume to ponder the future without having a nuanced understanding of the past?
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:26pm Rocky Horror:

If we forget history we WILL REPEAT IT. Then we will spiral down into the rabbit hole and never know who is the real leader and that what they are doing is harmful to humanity
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:26pm geezerette:

Brian, they can't, of course.
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:29pm geezerette:

...by which I mean, Brian, I agree.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:31pm TDK60:

..but there are cameras in there, right?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:32pm βrian:

Public services should be owned by the public — without exception.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:34pm northguineahills:

If we don't learn history, why learn anything? (says the guy that reads 1-3 hours of history of day).
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:34pm coelacanth∅:

βrian of course. unfortunately that's as obvious to some people as it actually is.
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:34pm Johnzon:

great show... still havent deleted my fb though it's mostly been deactivated for years... argh...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:35pm coelacanth∅:

er - NOT as obvious...
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:36pm Kate Chanaba:

Intersection is Google
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:36pm TDK60:

I'm reading Howard Zinn's 'A People's History of the United States'.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:36pm Webhamster Henry:

P.S. History never stops. I say this as the president of the board of trustees of a Historical Society.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:37pm βrian:

The only drawback to deleting one's FB account, is that once you've done it, you can't do it again, and again — with extreme prejucice!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:37pm βrian:

Eh, prejudice ...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:38pm Fredericks:

Mark keeps saying the kiosks are nine feet tall. Do they have other dimensions?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:38pm Webhamster Henry:

It's just because Alphabet couldn't fly Project Loon in NYC.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:38pm northguineahills:

I read an article that it was Google behind it when the project rolled out.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:39pm βrian:

Band of the year: NYC 9 Ft. Kiosk
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:40pm Ken From Hyde Park:

More info from the LinkNYC people: www.link.nyc
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:41pm coelacanth∅:

Fredericks they are 2 dimensional.
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:41pm geezerette:

This is all so insane!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:42pm Folsom:

Mark, can you make your links on the page so they open up in a new tab/window? Otherwise you navigate away from the playlist.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:42pm TDK60:

..they're so friggin' obviously, aesthetically, culturally Big Brother-like and they give me the creeps.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:43pm Fuzzy:

Got Dystopia If You Want It (and even if you don't)
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:43pm Fredericks:

Just height and width? Freaky.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:43pm coelacanth∅:

there should be especially designed ski masks sold for the purpose of vandalizing google products
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:45pm JakeGould:

To be balanced, I use LinkNYC Wi-Fi and it’s pretty solid and good. My main complaint is they only have those tings installed in fairly affluent neighborhoods in NYC and not neighborhoods where people can definitely benefit from free Wi-Fi.

Also, this tidbit from an article about the mysterious Mister Softee song coming out of these kiosks: “Officials pointed out that out of the 460,000 free calls made from LinkNYC’s phone app every month, the most dialed number is the customer service line for the New York State Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) card.”

So the reality is these LinkNYC things are a boon for the homeless in NYC… But the tracking issue is disturbing still. www.ny1.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:45pm northguineahills:

My wi-fi on my phone isn't on unless I'm at friend's house or I'm friends w/ the owner of the business.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:46pm Michael 98145:

BTW, today is Guy Fawkes Day ..
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:46pm geezerette:

The problem is the inevitable expansion from conventional marketing to behavioral control.
It's totalitarian.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:47pm TDK60:

Developed by the kind of hip technos who read Orwell in school … and thought it was a manual.
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:47pm geezerette:

Michael,wow!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:48pm Fredericks:

Has anyone vandalized one of these things yet?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:48pm Michael 98145:

@gz'ette, The Hidden Persuaders
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:50pm Rocky Horror:

LINK NYC IS ALPHABET!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:50pm βrian:

@Fredericks: If so, their Social Security number was recorded and cell phone location time-stamped.
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 6:52pm geezerette:

Michael, Vance Packard!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:52pm βrian:

@RH: Ah, the new Soylent Green! Makes sense.
  Mon. 11/5/18 6:52pm herb.nyc:

Oh boy, I use them NYC kiosks often. Thx for the truth ("I can't handle the truth").
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Lottery reminds me of Soylent Green...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:53pm Michael 98145:

thanks again, Mark H
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:54pm Fredericks:

That's what I was thinking, Brian.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:58pm coelacanth∅:

i have what some people call a "smart phone" but i've never accessed the internet or gps with it so can gooble still track me?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:58pm TDK60:

..thnaks for that Jake G. -it's always a complex thing; good and evil uses.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:59pm northguineahills:

This month: "Empires and Barbarians" by Peter Heather – final German and original Slavic movements

"Byzantium and Bulgaria 775-831" by Panos Sophoulis

"The Early Medieval Balkans: A Critical Survey from the Sixth to the Late Twelfth Century" by John Fine

"Southeastern Europe in the Middle Ages, 500-1250" by Florin Curta

"The Byzantine Commonwealth: Eastern Europe, 500-1453" by Dimitri Obolensky

"A History of the First Bulgarian Empire" by Steven Runciman

Don't get me started on the music and art/critical theory I read....
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 6:59pm coelacanth∅:

Thanks Mark
  Mon. 11/5/18 7:00pm liXiviated life:

Thanks for the show Mark.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 7:00pm Michael 98145:

whoa, great reading list, @ngh
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 7:00pm Bas NL:

Thanks Mark & Ava Kofman!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 7:00pm Rich in Washington:

Thanks, Mark!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 7:01pm Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone! ngh, great reading list!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 7:01pm listener james from westwood:

Thanks, Mark!!
Avatar Mon. 11/5/18 7:01pm geezerette:

Thank you, Mark!
  Mon. 11/5/18 7:02pm P-90:

Another interesting episode. Thanks!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 7:02pm TDK60:

which one's Pink?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 7:03pm Mark Hurst:

Have a great week, everybody.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Mon. 11/5/18 11:40pm ultradamno:

Mark, listener james from westwood, geezerette, chris, TDK thank you all for the warm thoughts. It is truly appreciated.
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