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Options September 26, 2018: Jessica Bruder
Jessica Bruder is a journalist who reports on subcultures and economic justice. In her recent book Nomadland: Surviving America in the Twenty-First Century, she spent months living in a camper van affectionately named “Van Halen”, documenting itinerant Americans who gave up traditional housing and hit the road full time, enabling them to travel from job to job and carve out a place for themselves in our precarious economy. The project spanned three years and more than 15,000 miles of driving—from coast to coast and from Mexico to the Canadian border.

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This week: Emily and Kimzilla talk to Jessica Bruder, live in studio!

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Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:01pm ultradamno:

Let's hit the open road.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:01pm dale:

grapes of wrath?
  Wed. 9/26/18 7:05pm Kate:

It's Wednesday!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:06pm melinda:

hi all
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:08pm Linda Lee:

i'm not on the road for work yet. ;-)
  Wed. 9/26/18 7:08pm Kate:

Wheelestate is my plan for retirement. That or Thailand.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:09pm Linda Lee:

i've lived in both a van & a car, but not by choice. living in a vehicle is not ideal at all.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:10pm franny:

I am a van dweller and it's fine.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:12pm Linda Lee:

the conscious choice is the critical thing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:12pm Tommy in Neversink:

It's a damn shame people have to live like this. This is why we need unions
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:13pm Linda Lee:

easy enough to put lipstick on a pig ~ but it's important to remember it's a pig.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:14pm RomanDogBird:

pigs are cute though
  Wed. 9/26/18 7:15pm Dez:

A guy I work with in his late 50s just bought a 350 diesel Dodge with plans for hitching a trailer and splitting ASAP!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:15pm Linda Lee:

.. but would you like to be forced to live with one?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:15pm ultradamno:

...and nourishing.
  Wed. 9/26/18 7:17pm katharsis:

I’ve seriously considered van life so many times. Still do.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:17pm melinda:

Amazon is scary.
  Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:18pm Hypertoast:

There's that place Slab City in California that squatters and people that live in vans and recreational vehicals go to live.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:18pm Linda Lee:

is this the human version of disaster porn?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:21pm Linda Lee:

is this normalizing the painful death of the middle class & rendering it groovy?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:23pm melinda:

LL good question.
  Wed. 9/26/18 7:25pm Kate:

Do you have a picture of the inside of Jessie's van?
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:25pm melinda:

Burning Man Closet haha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:26pm Linda Lee:

whee! migrant labor! no benefits, no security, no future, killing work. how cool!
god help us.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:27pm ultradamno:

I saw a documentary about Slab City at the Indianapolis International Film Festival a few years ago. Interesting stuff
  Wed. 9/26/18 7:28pm Kate:

defeathering quail-who knew that was even a thing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:29pm TDK60:

Good question, LL. People are still exploited.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:29pm dale:

when you die it doesn't matter how much your house or stuff is worth.
  Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:29pm Hypertoast:

@ultradammo, oh interesting. I just watched a short video on youtube last week. Really interesting, but seems really unstable(obviously) and could be dangerous. Crazy what people have been forced to do
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:34pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Zats, late to the proceedings tonight. How's everyone tonight?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:35pm Tommy in Neversink:

This is so interesting... and sad, thanks for putting this show together
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:38pm Linda Lee:

the situation is horrendous. just shit. i'm not hearing awareness of how wrong this is.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:38pm Tommy in Neversink:

Amazon is so evil ...pretty much no better than Walmart in terms of how they treat people
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:39pm howard in nyc:

I just clicked over to Ms. Bruder's website. The photo above is the front page of her site. The version above is too small to clearly see, SHE IS WEARING A WF-MU T-SHIRT HOW COOL IS SHE!!! www.jessicabruder.com
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:39pm Dano59:

despite the Pom Pom Girls precedent, I think I'd need at least a little camper, one of those little teardrop Retro® jobs... and, you know, a freelance writing gig when I'm not pumping gas
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:39pm TDK60:

In the 20th Century, various unions organized agricultural migrant workers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:41pm melinda:

It is horrendous.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:43pm ultradamno:

@tdk60 Off that point: inthesetimes.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:43pm Ken From Hyde Park:

In August when I was back home, the sugar beet harvest in ND was just getting underway. The beets go into huge piles where they wait until they get hauled to the processing plant. www.inforum.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:44pm Linda Lee:

Bezos is 'proud' of working conditions at Amazon. i've heard this direct quote.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:45pm Tommy in Neversink:

So we have increased the national debt by helping the rich get even richer when we could have actually helped people who needed it
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:47pm melinda:

@LL there's something really wrong with people like him.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:47pm ultradamno:

And with all these actual issues with Amazon, the president wants to focus on them using USPS as they exist to be used.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:48pm melinda:

I think this time really is different.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:50pm Linda Lee:

encroaching normalization of wage slavery ~ disgraceful. shameful.
  Wed. 9/26/18 7:51pm dez:

universal basic income!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:53pm Linda Lee:

how about this: let's try it, for f*ck sake.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:56pm Linda Lee:

'the opposite of poverty is not wealth. the opposite of poverty is community.'
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 9/26/18 7:58pm Linda Lee:

any discussion of the material benefit of this reporting?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:58pm steveo:

Interesting interview! Thank you.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 9/26/18 7:59pm Jeff Moore:

I have but one thing to say to Kimmers and her Burning Man – after Hans Johst:

Wenn ich Playa höre ... entsichere ich meine Browning!
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