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Options August 24, 2018: Jitterbug Waltz

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format Comments Approx. start time
  Jitterbug Waltz             0:00:00 (Pop‑up)
James White and The Blacks  White Devil   Options "Off White"  Infinite Zero  1995  CD  Originally released in 1979  0:02:00 (Pop‑up)
Ute Lemper   Wenn die beste Freundin   Options Berlin Cabaret Songs  London   1996  CD    0:06:31 (Pop‑up)
Prince  If I Was Your Girlfriend   Options Sign 'O' the Times  Warner Bros.  1987  CD    0:09:08 (Pop‑up)
Fiery Furnaces  Here Comes The Summer   Options EP  Rough Trade  2005  CD    0:14:06 (Pop‑up)
Blondie   Rip Her to Shreds   Options Blondie  Private Stock  1976  LP    0:17:34 (Pop‑up)
Shilpa Ray  EMT, Police and the Fire Department   Options Door Girl  Northern Spy  2017  CD    0:20:55 (Pop‑up)
Louis Prima & His Orchestra  All Right Louis, Drop the Gun   Options Say It With a Slap  Buddha Records  1999  CD  Recorded 1949  0:25:06 (Pop‑up)
Average White Band  Pick Up the Pieces   Options           0:28:14 (Pop‑up)
Rahsaan Roland Kirk  Make It With You   Options Blacknuss  Rhino  1993  CD  Originally released in 1972  0:32:06 (Pop‑up)
Herbie Hancock  Watermelon Man   Options Headhunters  Columbia   2013  CD  Originally released in 1973  0:36:49 (Pop‑up)
The Gun Club  Watermelon Man   Options Miami  Sympathy for the Record Industry  2004  CD  Originally released in 1982  0:43:08 (Pop‑up)
Iggy Pop  Loco Mosquito   Options Soldier  Arista  1980  LP    0:47:06 (Pop‑up)
David Bowie  What in the World   Options Low  Virgin  1999  CD  Originally released in 1977  0:50:14 (Pop‑up)
John Cale  Paris 1919   Options Seducing Down the Door  Rhino  1994  CD  Originally released in 1973  0:52:30 (Pop‑up)
Robyn Archer  Epitaph 1919   Options Robyn Archer Sings Brecht  EMI Digial  1984  CD  Composed by Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill  0:56:34 (Pop‑up)
Robyn Hitchcock   Sounds Great When You're Dead   Options I Wanna Go Backwards  Yep Roc  2007  CD  Originally released in 1984  1:03:13 (Pop‑up)
Richard Thompson  Waltzing's for Dreamers   Options Amnesia  Capitol   1988  LP    1:06:34 (Pop‑up)
Nick Lowe  My Heart Hurts   Options Nick the Nife  Columbia   1982  LP    1:10:25 (Pop‑up)
George Harrison  If Not For You   Options All Things Must Pass  Apple  1970  LP    1:13:03 (Pop‑up)
Ella Fitzgerald   But Not For Me   Options Pure Ella  Decca Jazz  1994  CD  Originally released in 1951  1:16:29 (Pop‑up)
Frank Sinatra  Learnin' the Blues   Options You Make Me Feel So Young  The Entertainers  1990  CD    1:19:40 (Pop‑up)
Dean Martin   Memories Are Made of This   Options The Best of Dean Martin  CEMA Special Markets  1990  CD    1:22:37 (Pop‑up)
Eurythmics  Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)   Options Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)  RCA  1983  MP3    1:24:58 (Pop‑up)
Tom Tom Club  Wordy Rappinghood   Options   Sire  1981  MP3    1:28:34 (Pop‑up)
Angélique Kidjo  Crosseyed and Painless   Options Remain In Light  Kravenworks  2018  CD-R    1:35:01 (Pop‑up)
Staple Singers  Slippery People   Options Turning Point  Private Records  1984  LP    1:40:23 (Pop‑up)
Rev. Jesse Jackson  Introduction of Aretha and Mavis   Options One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism  Arista  1987  CD    1:44:37 (Pop‑up)
Aretha Franklin and Mavis Stapes  Oh Happy Day   Options One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism  Arista  1987  CD    1:47:48 (Pop‑up)
Aretha Franklin  Mary Don't You Weep   Options Amazing Grace: The Complete Recordings  Atlantic  1999  CD  Recorded January, 1972  1:59:23 (Pop‑up)
Aretha Franklin  Never Grow Old   Options Amazing Grace: The Complete Recordings  Atlantic  1999  CD    2:07:26 (Pop‑up)
Rev. C.L. Franklin  Remarks   Options Amazing Grace: The Complete Recordings  Atlantic  1999  CD    2:23:02 (Pop‑up)
Bill Frisell  Chain of Fools   Options Is That You?  Elektra Nonesuch  1990  CD  Composed by Don Covay  2:30:12 (Pop‑up)
Phil Haynes & Free Country  R.E.S.P.E.C.T.   Options My Favorite Things: 1960-1969  Corner Store Jazz  2018  CD  Composed by Otis Redding  2:33:35 (Pop‑up)
Don Braden   Higher Ground   Options Earth Wind and Wonder  Creative Perspective Music  2018  CD  Composed by Stevie Wonder  2:37:51 (Pop‑up)
Lewis Porter  People Get Ready   Options Beauty & Mystery  Altruisoni  2018  CD  Composed by Curtis Mayfield  2:44:01 (Pop‑up)
Charlie Haden / Hank Jones  Hymn Medley   Options Steal Away: Spirituals, Hymns, and Folk Songs  Verve  1995  CD    2:51:13 (Pop‑up)
Aretha Franklin  Let it Be   Options This Girl's In Love With You  Atlantic  1993  CD  Originally released in 1970  2:56:49 (Pop‑up)

Listener comments!

Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:04pm Rocky Horror:

Hello Kurt
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:11pm Passaic River Blues:

One of the 20th Century's greatest songs right here.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:11pm Threemoons:

Ooooh, love where the theme of this set is going...
  Fri. 8/24/18 12:12pm MplsCoco:

Like pick out your clothes... haha. Oh Prince, you crazy. ❤️
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:15pm miękka:

hi kochanie, nice set!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:15pm Jeff Moore:

Lookit you finding a throughline between the Weimar-era bestest lady friends song and the Prince!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:16pm Kurt Gottschalk:

heart jeff, and hello everyone!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:17pm Undead83:

Hello everyone, great opening set ^^
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:21pm Kurt Gottschalk:

hello, miękka, glad you're listening in your new prince shirt!
  Fri. 8/24/18 12:22pm mzzm:

Hi Kurt, listening to your show in Riga Latvia while packing flight back NYC tmrrw adjusting myself to city life with your programing.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:24pm Rob (Jerzcity):

this is great.
great show!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:24pm Kurt Gottschalk:

hellllooooooooo latvia!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:25pm Kevlicki:

Afternoon Kurt! Playing your show during my staffing shift at Interference Archive, over in park slope, today!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:28pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Wow, think of all the Latvinos and Latvinas walking around Riga going about their business!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:31pm miękka:

hi Jeff! i like your profile pic : ) it reminds me of someone (very furry) we both know... is he listening as well?
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:31pm Lixiviated Life:

Ok so go ahead and play
that funky music
white boy
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:32pm Kurt Gottschalk:

kevlick, what is interference archive?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:32pm chris:

shake it, Kurt, folks.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 8/24/18 12:45pm Shira:

wonderful show, thank you!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:49pm Ken From Hyde Park:

www.interferencearchive.org "... a volunteer-run library, gallery, and archive of historical materials related to social and political activism and movements." Sounds neat!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:50pm V Priceless:

Rock, enjoying I am. Hey Kurt
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:50pm Kurt Gottschalk:

veep. hold on to your hat!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:51pm Kurt Gottschalk:

k from hp, thx
  Fri. 8/24/18 12:51pm paula:

ok loco!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:52pm Threemoons:

Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 12:52pm V Priceless:

ha - suspected DB would follow IP!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:53pm Richard Gruesome:

should we all hold onto our hats or is that a vp-directed directive?
  Fri. 8/24/18 12:54pm paula:

Just tuned in and def will listen to early part in archive and probably the entire show, cause u r the best.
yeh me too that DB related to Loco Mosquito. omg the Cale intro, u r the best, yep
  Fri. 8/24/18 12:54pm Fletchernyc:

Great set!!!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 12:58pm Kurt Gottschalk:

Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:01pm Richard Gruesome:

Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:02pm geezerette:

Good ice skating musique!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:03pm geezerette:

I miss ice.
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:04pm V Priceless:

  🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:05pm tadpoles:

I like your mix Kurt. Cheers.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:05pm dforemanwv:

What was the bed music under your talking? Sorry, I missed it if you mentioned it.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:06pm Michael 98145:

always great around here. thanks.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:09pm Kurt Gottschalk:

dforemanwv: jitterbug waltz 45 by buddy greco played at 33
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:11pm dforemanwv:

Thank you Kurt!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:12pm geezerette:

It's very hard to type as you waltz!
Howdy, Kurt and y'all!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:13pm Michael 98145:

hey, gz'ette. nice set, huh?
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:15pm geezerette:

Yes indeed, Michael!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:16pm slugluv1313:

Good Afternoon, Kurt and everyone!
fantastic show, Kurt -- and George's "If Not For You" just makes it PERFECT! :)
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:19pm miękka:

haha! "more shades of grey that any russian play"
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:19pm geezerette:

what slugluv said.

Wow! George followed by Ella...(sigh. ) :)
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:20pm geezerette:

Some piano!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:20pm Michael 98145:

those golden stars look nice against the black background
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:22pm Rocky Horror:

Good 'ol blue eyes!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:22pm geezerette:

Brilliant set! And that's not unusual.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:25pm Rocky Horror:

Rat Pack time
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:26pm geezerette:

Can Sammy be far behind?
  Fri. 8/24/18 1:27pm Phil:

Sammy has always been far behind.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:27pm Rocky Horror:

We will see
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:27pm MasterofPuberty:

Is everything OK in the studio, Kurt!?
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:29pm geezerette:

(All this brilliance! Total joy.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:30pm Michael 98145:

Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:31pm northguineahills:

A fave Tom-Tom Club of mine!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:31pm Richard Gruesome:

wow, I forgot about this song!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:33pm Davee:

I am thoroughly enjoying this fine radio programme!
  Fri. 8/24/18 1:36pm paula:

this set! and i can actually like a nick lowe thank you!
such delightful brilliant transitions.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:36pm rsj:

i knew this was next!
  Fri. 8/24/18 1:37pm paula:

we're w you, Kurt. go Kurt go!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:37pm slugluv1313:

what Davee, geezerette, and northguineahills said :)
so much FUN!!!
omg ANGÉLIQUE!!! yessssssssss
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:39pm Michael 98145:

and then what slugluv1313 said. yes.
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:40pm geezerette:

Dance! Dance! Dance!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:41pm Davee:

Now I am sorry I tuned in late!!!!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:41pm northguineahills:

I need this, it's been a crappy, fatiguing week!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:43pm geezerette:

Incredible segue!!!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:43pm Kevlicki:

Hey Kurt, Interference Archive is an all volunteer run exhibition space and collection of materials produced by social movements. Think of it as a political art archive. We've got everything from posters to zines, to pamphlets to political records. Anything made in multiples for grassroots politial organizing
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:44pm Davee:

→Very good indeed←
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:46pm slugluv1313:

@ northguineahills -- EXACTLY! been a thoroughly awful/draining week for me too, along with a lousy day ahead -- this sooooooo helps!!!!!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:47pm Kurt Gottschalk:

kevlick, i need to visit!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:47pm D. Lightfoot:

I take Mavis over Aretha
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:48pm Kurt Gottschalk:

they're both here so you don't gotta pick!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:48pm geezerette:

@NGH & Slugluv; sounds like this one's a present to you!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:49pm D. Lightfoot:

Just stating my allegiance for the record
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:50pm Kevlicki:

Kurt, I'd suggest you come by when I'm staffing on a Friday, but it appears you already have engagements!
We're open Thursday-Sunday and have regular events, film screenings, lectures, workshops and the like. All of our materials are open to the public for browsing, reaearch and inspiration.
Like WFMU we're community supported.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 1:54pm northguineahills:

abrazos, slugluv1313 y geezerette, and anyone who needs one!

I forgot to mention, Goddayyum, Aretha w/ Mavis!!!!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:55pm geezerette:

@Kevlicki,thanks for introduction!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:57pm geezerette:

Aw, thanks,NGH. :D
Avatar Swag For Life Member Fri. 8/24/18 1:57pm Satis-factory records:

First time listener, loving the show!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 1:58pm Kevlicki:

@geeserete you're welcome! its a project Im quite proud of, all should come visit!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:00pm JakeGould:

Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:01pm northguineahills:

WFMU is my church, my sanctuary....
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:01pm geezerette:

@Kevliki; very encouraging! I'm on the wrong coast but when we're on the right one a visit will be on agenda. :)
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:04pm slugluv1313:

@ ngh -- yes, THANK-YOU! :)
@ Kevlicki -- looks fantastic!! thank-you! (will look some more when i do not have to be dashing off to a job, ugh!) very very cool, and soooo needed nowadays -- will have to visit too!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:05pm Lixiviated Life:

i'm on the floor.
none greater than Aretha
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:05pm geezerette:

@Kevliicki, click my avatar. Solidarity.
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:14pm Davee:

Awesome is all I can say.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:14pm aaronfromMI:

Just tuned in. Looks like I missed some great music! This is Aretha's best album, incredible
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:15pm geezerette:

She was a gift.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:16pm northguineahills:

Can I get a fuck yeah from the congregation!??!
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:17pm Jeff Moore:

This singing is magnificent, but the bedrock of shared superstition it's based on really creeps me the f out – more and more each day.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:18pm aaronfromMI:

Aretha will lie in state on the 28th and 29th at the Charles H. Wright museum in Detroit. 9am-9pm
  Fri. 8/24/18 2:18pm P-90:

Fuck yeah this is tip-top Aretha
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:18pm geezerette:

NGH, haha, Hell yeah.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:19pm Kurt Gottschalk:

jeff, i understand your sentiment. i had to actively reverse that mentality when i started going to churches to hear bach on a regular basis. it's possible to find your way in without completely buying in.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:20pm aaronfromMI:

Aretha might be one of the most successful teen moms ever.
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:21pm geezerette:

It's possible to think of it all as metaphor.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:21pm Kurt Gottschalk:

i love how certain gospel and blues songs get to a point of barely hanging on by a thread. "motherless child" is often performed this way, and of course this "never grow old" we're hearing now. so empty, and yet every scream is still the song.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:23pm Kurt Gottschalk:

metaphor of just being in awe of creation. we don't all agree on how creation happened/s, but it's not so hard to share in the wonder of it all.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:23pm Rocky Horror:

Aretha was a mom at 12 year old and still made a good life for her family and her kids
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:23pm aaronfromMI:

Many folks view the bible as not just metaphor, but as a text of political resistance. Unfortunately something that was on the fringes of society became society and became the oppressor.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:23pm Kurt Gottschalk:

and again at 14!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:25pm northguineahills:

Well, I'm off to lunch, thanks Kurt!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:27pm aaronfromMI:

Whenever I hear of someone in the church becoming pregnant at such a young age I, unfortunately, think of sexual assault.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:28pm Kurt Gottschalk:

my impression is it was a boyfriend and it was life in detroit, but i certainly don't know.
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:30pm Jeff Moore:

I could listen to The Rev. C.L. Franklin say "Italy" all day.
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:32pm geezerette:

Kurt, I agree completely. We all need the strength, comfort and encouragement that great beauty of any kind inspires.
  Fri. 8/24/18 2:32pm paula:

'i had to actively reverse that mentality when i started going to churches to hear bach on a regular basis'.
lived in Italia for a while. I astonishingly went to a "mass" occasionally to stare at paintings and mosaics esp in Venezia and to hear the singing. Like a Titian right there on the altar. & I was grateful for the year of Latin those Roman Catholics inflicted upon me, helped me learn other languages in my Euro travels.
I'm sad to harsh-Aretha was most likely raped by someone in her church community. I saw it happen in rural north america.
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:34pm JakeGould:

@aaronfromMI: Kinda cynical POV. No doubt sexual assault occurred and still occurs like that, it most likely has more to do with lack of sexual education and/or a community that represses basic knowledge of birth control. It’s all “dark” honestly, but I would not ascribe two teenagers “doing it” to be something akin to assault.

Unless you are talking about Gérard Depardieu and what he and his friends did as kids. Anyway! That’s that!
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:34pm aaronfromMI:

I had a professor at Wayne State in Detroit who called Aretha Detroit's finest social psychologist. He wrote a book entitled, "Driving Detroit: A Quest for RESPECT in the Motor City."
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:48pm chris:

this set is amazeballs, Kurt. <3
  Fri. 8/24/18 2:49pm paula:

yeh, that too (leave it to religion, I mean don't)
' it most likely has more to do with lack of sexual education and/or a community that represses basic knowledge of birth control.'
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:50pm JakeGould:

@chris: Please do not say “amazeballs” again for any reason. THANKS!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:51pm chris:

paula, i love the whole of Veneto. hey, Jake, Venice is amazeballs. AMAZEBALLS, i say! simply A M A Z E B A L L S !
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:51pm geezerette:

I'm always in awe of the alchemy of African slaves taking the unendurable savagery of their treatment here and creating profound music, poetry, strength and courage from it. It's a kind of miracle and blessing. Secular or otherwise, we all benefit.
Avatar 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:55pm geezerette:

@Kurt, thanks for this exquisite show.
  Fri. 8/24/18 2:55pm paula:

our benefits- terrible beauty
but beautiful yea
Avatar Swag For Life Member 🎃 Fri. 8/24/18 2:55pm chris:

thanks, Kurt! fantastic show today.
  Fri. 8/24/18 2:56pm August Derleth:

WFMU: provocative as always
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 2:57pm Rocky Horror:

Great show Kurt
Avatar Fri. 8/24/18 3:00pm slugluv1313:

amazing amazing show, Kurt, -- again, THANK-YOU!
(@ geezerette -- YES definitely a true gift!)
re: Aretha's teen-Mom-dom -- i have NO idea about how that happened, it could be just a case of two young kids fooling around with no idea of how their bodies work . . . or, it could be sexual assault at the hands of someone older, abusive, etc. . . . i HOPE to "God" (if indeed there IS a "God" or even if there is not) that it is the former, and not the latter
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