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Options May 23, 2018: Human Problems

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Artist Track Album Label Year Format
The Tammy's  Egyptian Shumba   Options What's So Sweet About Sweet Sixteen  United Artists  1963  MP3 
Male Correctional Officer interview            
Female Correctional Officer Interview           
Thorin Daye Interview            
The Kinks  Holloway Jail   Options What's So Sweet About Sweet Sixteen  RCA  1971  MP3 

Listener comments!

Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:03pm All out Scott:

I cant wait to hear this one
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:08pm All out Scott:

He was my housing unit officer
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:09pm All out Scott:

HEY EMILY HEY KIM
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:09pm kimzilla:

Hi Scott!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:10pm kimzilla:

This guy wasn't Scott's housing officer. Thorin is, he will be the last interview.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:10pm ultradamno:

One of the top robot builders on Battlebots is a former prison guard. I think this an outlet for people in this line of work to be encouraged.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:11pm Richard S:

Hello! I am folding laundry In Real Life!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:11pm All out Scott:

the new jacks are pretty lame
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:11pm kimzilla:

Hi Richard! Hi Ultradamno!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:12pm kimzilla:

Are CO's also called jacks, or am I missing something?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:12pm All out Scott:

the ultimate corrections officer is one thats stoned all day
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:13pm All out Scott:

new jack is an officer just out of training
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:14pm gregory:

The whole prison system is poisoned . The people who work in the prisons are poison. What a horrible way to spend your life . If they choose to do this job , they deserve the hell that they live in . Total scum.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:15pm All out Scott:

hahahaha there are some guards over 300lbs that cant run at all. and these guys are to be relied on for backup
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:16pm All out Scott:

@ gregory not all of them are scum. some like Thorin i am lucky to call friend
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:18pm All out Scott:

sounds like county to me
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:18pm kimzilla:

Wait until you hear Thorin. He was amazing Gregory. It's hard to put everyone in one shitty category. That's why we offered three perspectives tonight.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:19pm All out Scott:

She definately works in county
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:20pm melinda:

hi all
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:20pm Emily:

Hi Melinda!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:20pm All out Scott:

officers are worse to eachother than the inmates
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:21pm gregory:

You were in medium ? I am talking about most but especially the max , towny types like up in Danamora . The whole subject makes me sick . Glad you got out . Now you are an inmate on fmu it seems.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:22pm common:

hello. listening. man.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:22pm kimzilla:

I did find it crazy that most of the issues are not around the prisoners, it was all about the problems with their fellow CO's. I was not expecting that.
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:23pm JeremyB:

@gregory. I'm sure some people think of it an honest way to make a living. I wouldn't assume they are all bad people.

I don't know enough about this but I keep wondering how state vs private prisons differ.... if the cops are better or worsened
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:24pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Good evening, Lifewits. This would not be a job for me. Sounds like it's constant conflict.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:24pm All out Scott:

officers were comfortable with me. i heard alot of complaints about officers that did really dumb stuff
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:24pm gregory:

Think about it , they have no other way of making a living ? They deserve the shit they live in . They may go home at night but they are inmates too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/23/18 7:25pm dale:

i like all this prison chat. the whole system is about the money and the kickbacks.
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:25pm JeremyB:

*cops was meant to be COs
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/23/18 7:26pm dale:

...and we demonize crimes and races based on how much money can be made off their incarceration.
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:26pm Emily:

Hi Ken from HP!!
Agreed—not a job for me, either.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:26pm All out Scott:

prisons should be turned into work camps supplying the private sector
Avatar Wed. 5/23/18 7:26pm MadameLuke:

These are really interesting. A friend of mine is a CO.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:27pm All out Scott:

that would offer better life skill training
Avatar Wed. 5/23/18 7:27pm MadameLuke:

Gregory - I don't think it's fair to generalize and dismiss an entire group of people like that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:27pm All out Scott:

code one on unit 113
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:27pm Emily:

@dale yeah, that does seem to be the case. Harder to fight the bad system when there’s money to made, I think.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/23/18 7:28pm dale:

scott - unions do NOT want that!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:28pm All out Scott:

# gregory you are not far off though. every home has its toilet
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:29pm All out Scott:

some dont want unions
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:29pm Emily:

@Madame Luke yes—I agree. Absolutely. I think some (like this woman) are really trying to do the good they can within a broken system.
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:29pm gregory:

I will do just that and will tune out .
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:30pm All out Scott:

i have seen some amazing packages get suitcased
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:32pm All out Scott:

imagine walking around with a cucumber up there all day
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:32pm kimzilla:

get suitcased?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:32pm Richard S:

One summer, I actually taught a course in Astronomy at a nearby women's correctional facility. Best behaved students I'd ever had. I remember being told during my "briefing" that they shouldn't give me any trouble, because they *wanted* to be out of their cells.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:32pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Good gravy, this guy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:33pm All out Scott:

i know a guy who kept a package like that for 3 months
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/23/18 7:33pm dale:

i think i would just let them have those cigarettes. don't wanna take them after where they been.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:33pm kimzilla:

@Scott.... NOOOO!!!!!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:33pm All out Scott:

you become the suitcase. like lube up and...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:34pm kimzilla:

OOffaaa
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:34pm All out Scott:

the right drugs in a package that large could go for 20k dollars
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:34pm ultradamno:

From orifices to opera, that was one hell of a seg.
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/23/18 7:35pm dale:

in jail for a parking ticket?????
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:35pm All out Scott:

the amount of weed in one hit goes for $7 in there
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:37pm All out Scott:

if you dont pay your ticket and they issue a warrant. off to jail you go. welcome to my world.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:38pm All out Scott:

sounds like a dumbutt to me
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:38pm kimzilla:

And here is Scott's guy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:38pm All out Scott:

yayyy Daye
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:39pm All out Scott:

i beat him up
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:39pm kimzilla:

um, on purpose?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:39pm All out Scott:

boy did that sound funny
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:40pm All out Scott:

yes we chest bumped and i knocked the wind out of him
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:41pm All out Scott:

well put
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:41pm kimzilla:

I wish Gregory stayed to listen to Thorin.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:42pm All out Scott:

he is such an awesome dude. we had alot of fun together in there
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:43pm All out Scott:

114 that was my house
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/23/18 7:44pm dale:

scott - i live about two miles from new hampton psych center - ever hear any stories about that place?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:45pm All out Scott:

@Dale no I havent
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:46pm All out Scott:

ungh I got caught by one of those notes. for playing my keyboard in my cube. Daye even let me
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/23/18 7:46pm dale:

a couple of inmates have escaped from there since i moved up here. always made the newspaper.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:46pm All out Scott:

great question KIM
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:47pm mr. haney:

8 years in the service , then a guard in a mens prison ? Must love men , huh?
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:48pm All out Scott:

DAYE LOVES ALL PEOPLE
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:49pm All out Scott:

YUP
Avatar Swag For Life Member Wed. 5/23/18 7:49pm dale:

this guy sounds ....solid. i know that's from the mod squad but he sounds like he's got his act together.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:50pm All out Scott:

he is truly a cool dude
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:50pm Emily:

Yes—that’s what got me. “The human problems.” Not inmate problems. We all have problems.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:51pm Richard S:

I suppose the question we need to ask (as a society) about prison is if its purpose is retribution (punishment/revenge on criminals) or rehabilitation.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:52pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Imagine the prison CEO dreaming about replacing COs with robots. Unfeeling, not-high robots that aren't snitching on each other.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:53pm All out Scott:

@Richard difficult question because every case is different. some guys Should not ever be released. others will never rehabilitate some want to but dont know how
  Wed. 5/23/18 7:53pm Emily:

@Richard YES.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:54pm All out Scott:

made my life so much better learning all this stuff
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:54pm JakeGould:

Go back to Reagan cutting off federal funding instituted by Jimmy Carter to fun community mental health care efforts. The prison system is now a pseudo-mental health care proxy thanks to crap like that. Take care of the health of your society and prisons get to focus on being competent. en.wikipedia.org...
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:57pm JakeGould:

As long as there is a lack of social care in a society, this will not get solved. And the “prison industrial complex” has been built on a foundation of social services being yanked away.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:58pm All out Scott:

networkssi.org
Avatar Wed. 5/23/18 7:58pm MadameLuke:

What a great guy! I feel inspired.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:59pm All out Scott:

social care begins at home. we need stronger family values
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 7:59pm listener 126464:

Thanks DJs and all involved!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 8:00pm Richard S:

Catch you next week!
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 8:00pm All out Scott:

i lived with Daye for a year and a half. lucky to have him and lucky to call him friend
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 8:00pm All out Scott:

thanks DJs
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 8:00pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Good show. Take care. Happy Memorial Day!
  Wed. 5/23/18 8:01pm Scott's mom:

great show. we need continuation of the human aspect of all concerned.
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 8:03pm Philthy woman:

Good show. So much. As usual the 'inside' needs more of this detailed free expression. Be cool to hear from inmates about their relationships w/ each other and staff too. Whole other level of clearances and inhabition though I know, hard to do. But maybe former inmates? Just thinkin. Thanks all
Avatar Swag For Life Member    Wed. 5/23/18 8:06pm Ken From Hyde Park:

Yes, true. Last week's show featured a former inmate.
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