![]() |
View Jeff Golick's profile
![]() |
Three hours of adventurous jazz drawing on the Destination: Out archives and other planes of there.
<-- Previous playlist | Back to destination: OUT playlists | Next playlist -->
April 8, 2018: All(ways) Cecil Taylor.
Listen to this show:
MP3 - 128K |
|
Add or read comments
Artist | Track | Album | Label | Year | Approx. start time | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
The Roscoe Mitchell Art Ensemble |
Tatas-Matoes
![]() |
Congliptious | Nessa | 1968 | 0:00:00 (MP3 | ) | |
Music behind DJ: Sun Ra |
The Perfect Man
![]() |
My Brother The Wind, Vol. I | Saturn Research | 1970 | 0:03:35 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor |
Pt. 1
![]() |
The Willisau Concert | Intakt Records | 2000 | 0:11:25 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor |
Pt. 2
![]() |
The Willisau Concert | Intakt Records | 2000 | 1:01:25 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor |
Pt. 3
![]() |
The Willisau Concert | Intakt Records | 2000 | 1:15:16 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor |
Pt. 4
![]() |
The Willisau Concert | Intakt Records | 2000 | 1:17:23 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor |
Pt. 5
![]() |
The Willisau Concert | Intakt Records | 2000 | 1:19:40 (MP3 | ) | |
Music behind DJ: Booker T. & the MGs |
Melting Pot
![]() |
1:21:27 (MP3 | ) | ||||
Cecil Taylor Unit |
1
![]() |
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye | hat Hut | 1978 | 1:27:34 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor Unit |
2
![]() |
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye | hat Hut | 1978 | 1:50:39 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor Unit |
3
![]() |
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye | hat Hut | 1978 | 2:18:06 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor Unit |
4
![]() |
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye | hat Hut | 1978 | 2:47:07 (MP3 | ) | |
Cecil Taylor Unit |
5
![]() |
One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye | hat Hut | 1978 | 3:05:03 (MP3 | ) | |
Music behind DJ: Dudu Pukwana & Spear |
Flute Music
![]() |
Flute Music | Caroline | 1975 | 3:33:27 (MP3 | ) |
Listener comments! | |
![]() |
![]() Hey hey, Jeff and all! |
![]() |
![]() good morning |
![]() |
![]() Hey there, @listener james and @Uncle Michael! |
![]() |
![]() Godd morning Jeff and all |
![]() |
![]() b’roo |
![]() |
![]() Hello, @fred, and goo day, @Scraps! |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:03am
Mark R:
Hey, I'm here live for a change! Hi everybody! | |
![]() |
![]() Whoo! @Mark R! |
![]() |
![]() How could there be enough Cecil Taylor, let alone too much? |
![]() |
![]() Amen to that, @fred. |
![]() |
![]() Hello Jeff. Listening whilst packing boxes. |
![]() |
![]() though Marilyn Crispell, who likes Taylor and everybody says is like Taylor, hadn’t heard Taylor when she started, when she was like Taylor from the start. |
![]() |
![]() Is this what some might call classical music? |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:16am
Stepchild:
Beautiful morning here in NJ, beautiful music in this ether. Nice to start with solo Cecil. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:16am
Mark R:
For some excellent articles on Mr. Taylor, might I direct you to WFMU's own Kurt Gottschalk, who wrote several articles about him for various publications, and even interviewed him at least once. Google Kurt Gottschalk Cecil Taylor for some very fine writing to accompany this very, very fine music. | |
![]() |
![]() Hallo, @Brian. Packing? Spring cleaning, or moving? @Scraps: yes, Crispell can sound Taylor-like, though I wasn't really aware that she hadn't heard CT before her start @Stepchild: thanks for being here in the ether! |
![]() |
![]() @Scraps: does she have his temper? I only got to see Cecil Taylor once, he was supposed to play with Amiri Baraka, but they had an... argument so they performed separately. Both were fiery characters, and now they're both gone |
![]() |
![]() She didn’t have a jazz education. I’m trying to look up Spirit Music, when Crispell was interviewed by Bob Rusch, where I got that information |
![]() |
![]() This Bomb magazine piece on CT by César Aira is also great reading: bombmagazine.org... |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:24am
Mark R:
I sometimes think solo Cecil is the best way to hear him. How did other musicians ever keep up with him? | |
![]() |
![]() When I told about Cecil's death to a coworker who's a Jazz pianist, he was basically "good riddance". He hates free jazz, obviously |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:25am
Stepchild:
My first time seeing Cecil perform was in Atlanta must have been mid-80s. Solo. I knew only Nefertiti, The Beautiful One — slightly. I was unprepared. Devastating. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:26am
Doug Schulkind:
Still trying (refusing) to process the loss of Mr. Taylor. He taught us how the love. | |
![]() |
![]() Jeff, moving after nearly twenty three years. Off to the Shropshire countryside. |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:26am
Doug Schulkind:
...how to love. | |
![]() |
![]() Hello Doug, cutting out the typo middle man now! |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:27am
Stepchild:
@Mark Do you know his Feel Trio material w Oxley and Parker? They kept up alright!! | |
![]() |
![]() Jimmy Lyons, too. |
![]() |
![]() @Doug: I'm with you, man. |
![]() |
![]() Ah, @Brian, best of luck with the move. We too are moving, after twenty years in the same apt. Not sure which neighborhood will have us yet. |
![]() |
![]() Gary Giddins is also very good on Cecil, if you're looking for more to read. |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:32am
Doug Schulkind:
The organist for Fenway Park in Boston played Cecil Taylor’s “Rick Kick Shaw” during the first inning of the Red Sox game. The song is on Cecil’s Jazz Advance album, which was recorded in Boston. | |
![]() |
![]() hello! |
![]() |
![]() That is amazing, @Doug! He has done that sort of thing before, no? What is his name? |
![]() |
![]() Greetings, @hyde! |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:34am
Stepchild:
That is the stuff there Doug if folk are not yet able to wrap themselves around later Cecil. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:34am
Doug Schulkind:
OK, back to work. Wish I could stay here and wallow with you. Big hugs, Jeff. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:34am
Stepchild:
And even if they are! | |
![]() |
![]() A note: Sam Rivers once said that about 80 percent of Cecil's work is composed. |
![]() |
![]() The Fenway organist being the esteemed Josh Kantor...the coolest in baseball...and member of The baseball Project...who incidentally, called into the Goddamed Dve Hill Program three times last Monday. |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:35am
Doug Schulkind:
His name is Josh Kantor. | |
![]() |
![]() Bye, @Doug! Peace be with you. |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:35am
Stepchild:
I don’t believe Sam on that | |
![]() |
![]() I think it entails a wider understanding of "composed," something beyond "notated music." |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:39am
Stepchild:
Cecil spoke and wrote of improvisation and life in the instant moment. Notes and gestures certainly came from there. Structures another thing definitely. | |
![]() |
![]() This Willisau concert, btw, is available at bandcamp: ceciltaylor.bandcamp.com... |
![]() |
![]() I must go, too. I'll be with you all in spirit, if not in the moment. Thanks, Jeff. |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:42am
Stepchild:
As a notable quote it gets into an untenable opposition between composition and improvisation. But it also makes sense to say it because of the impression/assertion of many that Cecil was just doing random flailing of an unstructured kind -including fellow musicians cough Miles | |
![]() |
![]() Thanks for being here, @UM. See you 'round these parts soon. |
![]() |
![]() An excellent point, @Stepchild. |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:45am
Doctorjazz:
Hi folks... Taylor music much appreciated. | |
♥
Sun. 4/8/18 9:47am
Listener Robert:
I find myself wanting to "join the conversation" this piano is having, and to laugh at the jokes -- if only I could figure out what the "people" in it were saying! | |
![]() |
![]() Welcome, @Doctorjazz! |
![]() |
![]() Hi, @Listener Robert! I'm with you -- I find myself laughing now and again, despite not knowing what, exactly, is being said. |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:49am
Stepchild:
Try dancing instead of conversation as metaphor. Seriously. | |
![]() |
![]() See also: www.instagram.com... |
♥
Sun. 4/8/18 9:52am
Listener Robert:
I guess if I were a dancer rather than a talker, I might think of it that way. But as far as foot movement is concerned, it sounds more like sidewalk traffic than dancing. Or maybe sidewalk + street -- like for instance, just there some heavy trucks rumbled thru. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:52am
Stepchild:
Yess | |
♥
Sun. 4/8/18 9:54am
Listener Robert:
Dancing is more rhythmic and repetitive in one place. This, by contrast, is "going somewhere". | |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:54am
Stepchild:
Step into that head traffic I’m no dancer either but shaking it here anyway | |
Sun. 4/8/18 9:54am
Mark R:
Jeff, that Bomb magazine article was fantastic. Thanks for posting the link. And of course, for this fantastic concert. Wow! | |
![]() |
![]() I believe that dance footage from Jason Moran's instagram is from this documentary: vimeo.com... |
![]() |
![]() Glad you enjoyed, @Mark R. I think a listener posted that Bomb link on Friday...can't recall who, though. |
![]() |
![]() Do you know (everybody) Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji? Thinking of pianists that sound “free” but are not.... |
![]() |
![]() Tidbit: the first producer to work with Cecil Taylor? Tom Wilson. |
![]() |
![]() That name is new to me, @Scraps. |
![]() |
![]() Oh, you would like him! Or at least, you should try him. The “famous” one is Opus clavicembalisticum. |
![]() |
![]() The composer banned public showing for years because nobody could play it with the composer’s satisfaction. |
![]() |
![]() (There are two multi-CDs now.) |
![]() |
![]() (At least.) |
Sun. 4/8/18 10:08am
Doctorjazz:
I think it was Gary Giddens who described Taylor's playing as his 10 fingers acted like 10 drummers on the piano. The dance talk reminded me of that. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 10:09am
Mark R:
I can't imagine any other show in the world that would play an entire concert like this. Thank you so much, Jeff! This is the best Cecil Taylor tribute I could ever imagine. I only have his "Unit Structures" album, his part of the "Jazz Composers Orchestra" album and the three songs he contributed to Gil Evans' "Into the Hot" album, so this solo concert has been an absolute revelation. Thanks so much for sharing this with us this morning. And yes, it is indeed an absolutely gorgeous sunny morning in NJ (and I assume most of the northeast). Made only more beautiful by the fantastic music you've chosen for us today. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 10:14am
Doctorjazz:
http://jerryjazzmusician.com/2003/03/conversations-with-gary-giddins-on-pianist-cecil-taylor/ Didn't read the whole thing (though I read lots Giddens wrote about Taylor, including his books), but an interesting interview with him about CT. | |
![]() |
![]() @doc: I think it was author Val Wilmer who described Taylor turning the piano into "88 tuned drums," in As Serious As Your Life. |
![]() |
![]() @Mark R: oh my! Just grateful for the chance to share it all. Thanks, man. |
![]() |
♥
Sun. 4/8/18 10:21am
alanr:
Thank you, Jeff. It means a lot to me to be able to have access through streaming to listen to all these tributes here and on other radio stations, while in Mexico City, my second life. And to read the comments here from our special CT community. Again, thank you for your work on WFMU (and elsewhere).Never enough Cecil. |
Sun. 4/8/18 10:21am
Stepchild:
Encore encore encore | |
Sun. 4/8/18 10:21am
Doctorjazz:
Could be, Jeff, it stuck with me. I don't think I read him, maybe someone else I read quoted him... | |
![]() |
![]() Nicely done!! |
![]() |
![]() My favorite!! Yay! |
Sun. 4/8/18 10:27am
Stepchild:
Conversation time | |
![]() |
![]() @alanr: thanks to you for being here, and chiming in to the conversation. |
Sun. 4/8/18 10:37am
Dean:
Played just this track, no. 1 of OTMSS&NG, a couple days ago, Trance with Sonny Murray & Jimmy Lyons yesterday. Still more to revisit. @Scraps @9:56: I do indeed know Sorabji. I have John Ogdon's Opus Clavicembalisticum and assorted other recitals. Many years ago I asked Matthew Shipp if he knew Sorabji's music. At the time he didn't, and I've been meaning ever since to send him OC. Haven't done so. | |
![]() |
![]() *emerges from the muck* I'm here to get pounded by 88 tonal drums! |
![]() |
![]() Ok, so I didn't plan this out very well time-wise, and in order to include this entire performance by the CT Unit, this show will be going about 30 minutes over. The archive will not be able to hold it all (suitably enough). |
![]() |
![]() @Dean! @northguineahills! |
![]() |
![]() The momentum of this music. |
![]() |
![]() Interesting to hear Jackson...I can hear bits of the way his music was put together later in his playing here. |
![]() |
![]() Oh the humanity, we have to suffer through an extra 30 mins of Cecil! |
♥
Sun. 4/8/18 10:51am
Listener Robert:
That's OK, as long as it finishes in time for Jonesy's & Burnsy's 1st mic break. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 10:53am
Mark R:
I just figured out that he was 71 years old when he played that Willisau concert. I can't imagine having that kind of energy, to play that ferociously for that long, at 71. | |
![]() |
![]() Yeah, it's astonishing, really. |
![]() |
♥
Sun. 4/8/18 10:57am
alanr:
He was quite strong when he played at the Whitney in 2016, the last time many of us saw him. |
![]() |
![]() this is killer stuff |
![]() |
![]() @alanr: Yes. He seemed rather frail, physically, as he walked with helpers to the stage. But once he hit the piano...BOOM. |
![]() |
![]() I like that I'm able to play these long concerts -- the overwhelming totality of it is very much part of the Cecil Taylor experience (imo). |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:04am
Stepchild:
You did the right thing, man | |
![]() |
![]() I like this line, from the Willisau concert liner notes, quoting a music journalist: «There is no Taylor style. There is only Cecil Taylor.» |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:26am
Dean:
The OTMSS&NG liner notes report that officials denied Taylor a proper grand piano for this concert, because it was reserved for "classical pianists." | |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:27am
Stepchild:
Taste the ebony flavor resin’d ivory hued mechanics | |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:27am
Dean:
On In the Brewing Luminous he plays a whoop-ass Bosendorfer. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:27am
Dean:
^It Is In the Brewing Luminous | |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:28am
Stepchild:
Cecil, from his notes/poem to Garden | |
![]() |
![]() I'm glad this show is going overtime, as my sister just called me to wish me a happy birthday and we talked for about as long as we did in the past ten years put together |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:30am
rw:
Morning all. Sad to lose another great but nice to celebrate with all this music. Happy Birthday fred! | |
![]() |
![]() @fred: bon anniversaire!! |
![]() |
![]() I guess Scott McDowell might do a tribute as well. With Cecil Taylor there's no lack of materiel |
![]() |
![]() @rw: good morning to you. |
![]() |
![]() Yes, @fred, I suspect he will! |
![]() |
![]() "materiel" instead of "material" is a pretty apt switch-up. |
![]() |
![]() boom! |
![]() |
![]() I got an early birthday gift yesterday: seeing Byambajargal Gombodorj and getiing her to sign a tourist office CD of hers I somehow got years ago. And having a Mongolian musician recognize me instead of the other way around (I was one of about five people at one of her shows, but that was six years ago). She has my email now, I hope I'll hear about any coming shows |
![]() |
![]() That is very sweet, @fred. |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:43am
JtotheK:
Been tuned in - thanks for the Taylor tunes, Jeff. Hi everyone. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:43am
Dean:
This has to "4" by now... | |
![]() |
![]() Hello, @JtotheK! |
![]() |
![]() @Dean: my digital version is cut into 5 pieces, which do not correspond exactly to the original six sides. |
![]() |
![]() (It's the 2004 CD re-release from hat: www.discogs.com...) |
![]() |
![]() I'm so socially inept it isn't the first time it happened to me. The drummer from Schwervon did it twice. I'm small so I usually stay in the back and don't see who's playing (that's my excuse). Mission of Burma also once stopped me in a Paris street because I was wearing a Terre T T-shirt |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:55am
rw:
Five? I'd have guessed only three: One Too Many, Salty Swift and Not Goodbye. But I don't really know anything that would just have been my guess. fred, if you're small you should be in front! | |
![]() |
![]() JIMMY LYONS |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:57am
Dean:
Funny, my hat Jazz Series CDs from 1991 list six tracks on the second disk in addition to the two featuring the Unit on the first disk. | |
![]() |
![]() @rw: Small and in front will get you beaten to a pulp. No thanks |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:59am
Dean:
https://www.discogs.com/Cecil-Taylor-One-Too-Many-Salty-Swift-And-Not-Goodbye/release/2689007 | |
![]() |
![]() @Dean: yeah, hat has sliced and diced this in different ways: www.discogs.com... |
Sun. 4/8/18 11:59am
rw:
Ha! Yeah, I thought about that afterward. The back is good. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:00pm
Dean:
Yup. | |
![]() |
![]() It is essentially one giant slab of sound, though. |
♥
Sun. 4/8/18 12:01pm
Listener Robert:
How does the WFMU archiving know to stop here? | |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:01pm
Dean:
I have my butcher remove the fat and tendons before I play it. | |
![]() |
![]() @Listener Robert: there's simply an outer limit to the size of any archived show, set at a little over three hours. I am taping the entire program, but once uploaded, only the first 3:08 (or so) will be accessible. |
![]() |
![]() @rw: Strangely enough, it got me into the inner circle of one Lightning Bolt show, which was a great experience |
![]() |
![]() You prematurely applaud Cecil at your peril. |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:07pm
rw:
3 LP set seems cooler but in cases like this a CD seems like the way to go. Best to leave the slab intact. fred, Nice! The inner circle of a Lightning Bold show is (sadly) something I'll never experience! | |
![]() |
![]() @Jeff G: that also explains why Ridgewood Radio sometimes has extra content on the archives |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:09pm
rw:
Jeff, Yeah, what was that? I didn't notice anything indicating an end. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:09pm
Dean:
The CDs include material not on the LPs, opening duets and a solo. | |
![]() |
![]() @rw: you didn't miss much, it's a lot of fun but adds nothing to the music |
![]() |
![]() @rw: Would be a different listening experience, having to flip over the records, for sure. I think it just quieted down for a sec, and folks got jumpy. |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:10pm
Dean:
A very limited CD edition includes still more, the encore consisting of a medley of Billy Joel tunes. | |
![]() |
![]() This is actually that, @Dean. Scenes from an Italian Restaurant. |
![]() |
![]() @Dean: that could have come in handy at the show I was yesterday. They clearly wanted to play more, the venue dimmed the lights on stage, after a while then cut them out. Nothing like Billy Joel to drive people out, they should have thought of this |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:17pm
Dean:
This illustrates why nobody has ever been to a Billy Joel concert. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:20pm
rw:
Jeff, this is awesome. Thanks for playing it all the way through and putting in the overtime. Really enjoying it. | |
![]() |
![]() Happy to, @rw. And also sad to. Glad you're here for it. |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:22pm
Dean:
Worth recalling that you have played tributes to Cecil Taylor, among others, to celebrate their lives before their passing. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:26pm
rw:
This seems like the beginning of track 3 to me. | |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:27pm
rw:
The Not Goodbye part. | |
![]() |
![]() Yup, just did the CT birthday tribute a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for the great Taylor tribute, Jeff. A good week to all! |
![]() |
![]() (I wouldn't mind catching a Billy Joel concert-not willing to break the bank for tix, though) |
![]() |
![]() Scott played Cecil Taylor in part because he didn't want to wait for a tribute to do so. Maybe he'll play someone else. I'm sure his choice will be sound |
![]() |
![]() @Dean: "nobody has ever been to a Billy Joel concert" marks you as a candidate for Yogi Berra reincarnation seats |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:33pm
rw:
Applause! | |
![]() |
![]() amazing. thank you! |
![]() |
![]() Fuckin' majestic tribute, Jeff. Many thanks for letting him run long. |
♥
Sun. 4/8/18 12:36pm
Listener Robert:
Thanks for the explanation, JG. I just don't know how the digital recording works. Is file size related closely to actual duration? I'd've thought there'd be a large variation due to data compression. | |
![]() |
![]() don't forget Sonny Rollins, also still around! |
Sun. 4/8/18 12:36pm
Dean:
Yes! Great show. | |
![]() |
![]() Sonny! Yes, thanks, @hyde. Still here (though sadly not able to play any more). |
![]() |
![]() Bye for now, @hyde! @listener james! @Listener Robert! @Dean! @fred! @rw! @doctorjazz! And all! |
![]() |
![]() Hi again. In case anyone is reading along, I misspoke earlier re the archived version of this show: it's the full show. (The 3-hr. limit is only in effect when the WFMU system is doing the recording; "home taping" allows for longer archives.) |
RSS feeds for destination: OUT:
Playlists feed |
MP3 archives feed